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ppusa:   ehuge 7 up hours says another shake and you will see a new low
(12:12 PM) ehuge:   7 up hours i'm just looking for 20 mins
(12:13 PM) ehuge:   just a retest of 1413 with a higher low
(12:13 PM) tippet:   50^% last move
(12:13 PM) tippet:   backside too the ema
(12:15 PM) ehuge:   well nice trade ppusa
(12:17 PM) ppusa:   huge paper profits
(12:17 PM) ppusa:   i mean big paper profits
(12:18 PM) ppusa:   can i help Tom
(12:18 PM) Tom_B:   lng agn...grrr
(12:18 PM) ppusa:   want a flashlight?
(12:18 PM) Tom_B:   don't need one u can see it frm ur hse
(12:19 PM) tippet:   so far retra to 5min trndline anyone think short again
(12:19 PM) ppusa:   Tippet the 7 up hours says this will die but
(12:20 PM) ppusa:   one more is 8
(12:20 PM) Tom_B:   Last SWL must hld or I'm a Chimp bride
(12:20 PM) tippet:   hit 62%
(12:20 PM) ppusa:   i agree Tom
(12:20 PM) ppusa:   the overall pattern remains bullish
(12:20 PM) ppusa:   good luck
(12:21 PM) Tom_B:   prob best mve wud be to be out unr these conditions 
(12:21 PM) prakso3:   tom_b SWL ?? thx
(12:21 PM) Tom_B:   just trying to get positind but hvng trble
(12:22 PM) Tom_B:   lng & lighting incense
(12:23 PM) Tom_B:   Been WAY off my game today
(12:24 PM) Tom_B:   That 26 is like a rock...if it goes though I will add
(12:24 PM) ehuge:   a good divergance trade was at 10:30
(12:24 PM) ehuge:   perfect setup
(12:24 PM) ppusa:   if i had to short it
(12:24 PM) Tom_B:   y, i saw that not my trde though
(12:24 PM) ppusa:   ehuge time zone?????
(12:24 PM) ehuge:   est
(12:25 PM) ppusa:   a buy
(12:25 PM) ehuge:   yep
(12:25 PM) ehuge:   15 points
(12:26 PM) ehuge:   got a small piece 
(12:26 PM) tippet:   anyone notice the big inv h&s could also be a rising wedge ........diabolical 
(12:27 PM) Tom_B:   There is a poss that this rally is really a big W:4 before it tanks...agree Tipp...been on guard 
for that but watching
(12:28 PM) tippet:   ultimately we could pop above neckline lure in longs and get the classic pop out of top of 
wedge before going down 
(12:28 PM) ppusa:   Tom w4 from today's high?
(12:28 PM) tomsurf:   tip- now that's diabolical
(12:29 PM) Tom_B:   This whole move up is a correction to the main dwn trnd & its ovr ??
(12:29 PM) Tom_B:   y pp
(12:30 PM) jimbo_320:   this is like watching paint dry
(12:30 PM) Tom_B:   Can't tell pp, i'll just eventually go with
(12:30 PM) ppusa:   well at least i am following your intent
(12:31 PM) Tom_B:   we're making progree pp :)
(12:31 PM) ppusa:   on the long side es and the dow are melting up
(12:31 PM) Tom_B:   progress
(12:31 PM) ppusa:   the dow is up 121 today
(12:31 PM) ppusa:   why shold we tank
(12:31 PM) ppusa:   the trans index is making a new high
(12:32 PM) ppusa:   so if this is a wave 4 then we shold buy at 1400
(12:32 PM) Tom_B:   Vry son we are going to get into wht i cal a compressioin zone... , nxt 15-30min...watermellon 
seed time...pop coming
(12:32 PM) ppusa:   maybe that's why my overall position is still long q's
(12:33 PM) ppusa:   just started a new hour
(12:34 PM) Tom_B:   I'm still lng ...if we go sideways we r wrking off OB onlngr TF, if we fail then W:$ TOP
(12:34 PM) Tom_B:   W:4
(12:34 PM) ppusa:   is ib down or globex or ?
(12:34 PM) tippet:   globex
(12:35 PM) tomsurf:   globex sure hasn't been good lately
(12:35 PM) Tom_B:   getting quotes hre on esig hope there not making them up
(12:35 PM) jalemany:   my J-Trader working
(12:36 PM) Maverick-Trader:   J ok here, also
(12:38 PM) scorp:   i'm back
(12:38 PM) scorp:   thanks tippet
(12:38 PM) tippet:   no thank yoooooo
(12:38 PM) scorp:   Globex back on IB
(12:39 PM) Tom_B:   grrr, tested lower #
(12:41 PM) ehuge:   long 1415 
(12:41 PM) Tom_B:   huge good a spot as any
(12:42 PM) Tom_B:   of course need this to hld but if it does u got great location
(12:43 PM) ehuge:   stop to break even
(12:44 PM) ehuge:   nope out 
(12:44 PM) ehuge:   lunch time bullshit
(12:44 PM) scorp:   we are in the 50/200 ma range
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(12:49 PM) BrainStorm:   grrr ISP out for an hour dont like trading on backup only
(12:50 PM) scorp:   i missed another one
(12:50 PM) scorp:   we had divergence and trendline break
(12:50 PM) scorp:   these things are working
(12:50 PM) scorp:   now if i can only use them to my advantage i just might have something
(12:52 PM) scorp:   that was a higher low there too
(12:52 PM) Tom_B:   Still bullish if SWL doesn't fold but up to res hre
(12:52 PM) scorp:   Bline still down tho
(12:52 PM) scorp:   i'm not touching it
(12:53 PM) Tom_B:   This the watermellon seed
(12:54 PM) scorp:   pop!
(12:55 PM) scorp:   i think you might be right
(12:55 PM) scorp:   boom!
(12:56 PM) Tom_B:   still need to clr HOD..court still out
(12:56 PM) Tom_B:   I thnk huge had THE spot 4 a lng
(12:58 PM) Tom_B:   This is a nasty day to trde..at least 4 me
(12:59 PM) Tom_B:   WE r still being compressed
(12:59 PM) scorp:   lets see what happens
(12:59 PM) scorp:   1:00 hop coming!
(01:00 PM) ppusa:   out of last paper long
(01:00 PM) ppusa:   short now
(01:00 PM) ppusa:   paper
(01:00 PM) scorp:   based on?
(01:00 PM) ppusa:   7 up hours and the highof this one beingin
(01:01 PM) ppusa:   i was napping
(01:02 PM) ppusa:   i like the approach here to the ma's . if it continues
(01:02 PM) ppusa:   looks like good momentum on a potential cross
(01:02 PM) Tom_B:   This range is defined now...which ever way we come out is it, imvho...
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(01:03 PM) ppusa:   yes and if it goes up and i lose on paper it will look like a gartley
(01:04 PM) Tom_B:   pp..which means..
(01:04 PM) scorp:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-27/scorp16.jpg
(01:04 PM) scorp:   i'm not sure what that means
(01:05 PM) Tom_B:   pp ??
(01:05 PM) ppusa:   so if it went up the end of the move
(01:05 PM) ppusa:   5th wave
(01:05 PM) Tom_B:   if we brk out...thisi cud end at 65
(01:06 PM) scorp:   1440 first
(01:06 PM) ppusa:   yes that doesn't really coincide with your thinking
(01:06 PM) Tom_B:   which is why i've been battered as a lng
(01:06 PM) BrainStorm:   looks like complete and utter chop to me...though got an explosive move off similar 
action couple of days back
(01:06 PM) FrankT:   Looks like ES determined to test hod again
(01:06 PM) ppusa:   i don't want to get hung up on the hour chart so
(01:06 PM) ppusa:   i am open minded
(01:07 PM) scorp:   still in my crisscross
(01:07 PM) scorp:   lower high?
(01:07 PM) Tom_B:   If this brks out, I believe then more up...pp, if this is top of W:4 of this correction then will 
fail, otherwise this is only w:4 finishing & another leg up
(01:07 PM) scorp:   MACD setting up?
(01:09 PM) Tom_B:   Which means at decision point for a good move either way... leaning lng until prvn otherwise
(01:10 PM) Tom_B:   banging on reds agn
(01:10 PM) scorp:   chopilator
(01:11 PM) Tom_B:   res
(01:11 PM) BrainStorm:   Id be long at 25
(01:11 PM) BrainStorm:   well 25.5
(01:11 PM) Tom_B:   Any of u triangle specialists got a call on this ?
(01:13 PM) tippet:   guess thats a no
(01:13 PM) Tom_B:   RO4 3m ?
(01:14 PM) tippet:   hmm looks good 
(01:14 PM) tippet:   same as on 5min
(01:15 PM) FrankT:   If ES breaks 1124 we could be off
(01:16 PM) Tom_B:   need 28-9
(01:17 PM) scorp:   we lost our divergence
(01:17 PM) scorp:   but, doesn't seem like we are going anywhere
(01:18 PM) Tom_B:   a little early give it some time, imvho..still in range
(01:18 PM) tippet:   both at top of bb 5min... scorp if we go down u have your diverg
(01:19 PM) scorp:   i'm afraid to go get more coffee, i have this feeling that someone is going to flip the switch and off we 
go
(01:19 PM) Tom_B:   wish i knew if it was on or off
(01:19 PM) scorp:   hmmmm
(01:20 PM) scorp:   we might have something here
(01:20 PM) Tom_B:   shd know in the nxt 30 m
(01:21 PM) BrainStorm:   tempted by a nap but feel we might get a big move outa this
(01:22 PM) scorp:   potential energy building
(01:23 PM) FrankT:   needs another leg
(01:24 PM) Tom_B:   somebody showed up
(01:24 PM) scorp:   wow what?
(01:24 PM) scorp:   i'm short
(01:24 PM) Tom_B:   just saw a little up spike on 1m...
(01:24 PM) scorp:   but not on purpose
(01:24 PM) Tom_B:   might just be a data pop
(01:24 PM) sb17:   i don't usually use ADX, but I've found in ranges like this that it pays off 
eventually
(01:25 PM) BrainStorm:   yup volume there but could been a fake I guess
(01:25 PM) sb17:   ES 3M still consolidating
(01:25 PM) Tom_B:   tnx Brain
(01:26 PM) BrainStorm:   was one a few bars before 1 too tom again with some volume
(01:27 PM) Tom_B:   tnx
(01:28 PM) BrainStorm:   5 min nas realy shows the chop
(01:31 PM) sb17:   is anyone else getting those stupid pop-up windows from PalTalk?
(01:31 PM) tippet:   well 3 humps sell div on144 and 2min smax sell,,,,,,GOOOO SCORPPPPPPPPPPPP
(01:32 PM) scorp:   thats it
(01:32 PM) BrainStorm:   sp rolling off a bit...flag would be bad here would need more oomph to get back to the 
high
(01:32 PM) tippet:   20ema15 again
(01:32 PM) scorp:   coming up on the 200ma
(01:32 PM) sb17:   19.25 ES previous S
(01:33 PM) scorp:   or going down to
(01:33 PM) tippet:   kinda rounded top here on 5min...Lower wedge trendline here!!
(01:34 PM) tippet:   so diabolical would be to poke out the bottom then go up
(01:35 PM) p_8:   using, NQoos oscilator, anyone noticed there was a sell divergence on 60min 
chart?
(01:35 PM) FrankT:   Successful test on ES
(01:35 PM) FrankT:   5m
(01:35 PM) FrankT:   so far...
(01:35 PM) ppusa:   i think my cable is down
(01:35 PM) BrainStorm:   so thrilling I need a bathroom break
(01:36 PM) ppusa:   did you guys get the message about me being short 8 with no stops?
(01:36 PM) tippet:   see that per
(01:36 PM) scorp:   no
(01:36 PM) ppusa:   i guess the cable is down
(01:37 PM) donsuelo:   Thanks p_8 for the divergence alert
(01:37 PM) p_8:   same divergence can be seen on es 60min
(01:38 PM) ppusa:   sh*t best short of the day and i am off line
(01:38 PM) ppusa:   did you all see the three humps?
(01:39 PM) scorp:   alright, i need to really work on my execution
(01:39 PM) scorp:   man
(01:39 PM) scorp:   hope you all got this
(01:40 PM) ppusa:   you don't want to hear what i am thinkiing
(01:40 PM) Tom_B:   seed popped, me shrt :)
(01:41 PM) BrainStorm:   got a scalp sat on hands too long
(01:41 PM) scorp:   me too and i was here!
(01:41 PM) ppusa:   a down hour 
(01:41 PM) ppusa:   i covered my paper short
(01:41 PM) BrainStorm:   funny they missed the stops bellow the previous lod
(01:41 PM) ppusa:   i will let a couple ride with a stop at b/e
(01:41 PM) Tom_B:   Watch 02-06..if takes out ...
(01:41 PM) BrainStorm:   ahh going back for them now lol
(01:42 PM) ppusa:   nq crossed the 20 on the 15 minute chart.....so far this doesn't mean a thing
(01:42 PM) Tom_B:   hve supp 1400
(01:43 PM) ppusa:   but the approach was good
(01:43 PM) ppusa:   it had a lot of momentum
(01:43 PM) scorp:   approach excellent
(01:43 PM) BrainStorm:   over night low 1407 / 8 I think
(01:43 PM) tippet:   bouncedoff the downtrend line off 2/14
(01:43 PM) scorp:   we had this short
(01:43 PM) scorp:   it was identified
(01:43 PM) ppusa:   yes we did (more or less)
(01:43 PM) scorp:   now lets go to 1440
(01:44 PM) ppusa:   i need to straighten up my equipment so i will be back. Scorp because of the approach to the 
ma's the prudent thing would be to stay short if one had multiple contracts
(01:45 PM) ppusa:   there is a big gap at monday's low
(01:45 PM) ppusa:   and the 50 point PnF
(01:45 PM) ppusa:   good luck
(01:45 PM) ppusa:   i'll be back
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(01:47 PM) scorp:   we actually may get some buy divergence
(01:50 PM) BrainStorm:   support at 15min ema 50 maybe
(01:51 PM) Tom_B:   1400 some sup
(01:52 PM) BrainStorm:   or maybe not
(01:53 PM) Tom_B:   "some"
(01:54 PM) BrainStorm:   1392-97 congested several times over the last few days
(01:54 PM) Tom_B:   tis is bot of somwe supp
(01:54 PM) Tom_B:   95
(01:54 PM) tippet:   amazing move
(01:55 PM) scorp:   well, if there is anything positive that i can say about today, it is that at least i might have a plan
(01:55 PM) scorp:   too funny
(01:55 PM) ppusa:   i agree scorp.backn now
(01:55 PM) scorp:   i blame pp
(01:55 PM) Tom_B:   GREAT SCorp
(01:55 PM) ppusa:   yeeehawww
(01:55 PM) tomsurf:   scorp- ya sound like it...the new scorp ;-)
(01:56 PM) ppusa:   hey you know when i said paper short before the final hump scorp?
(01:56 PM) scorp:   lol - guys i haven't made any money today
(01:56 PM) scorp:   thats the beauty of it
(01:56 PM) ppusa:   haven't lost have you?
(01:56 PM) Tom_B:   pp, lks like that was end of W:4 up so dwn trnd to continue...not verified BUT if we take 1382 
then it is in ELL wave trms but this lks ugly
(01:56 PM) scorp:   no
(01:56 PM) scorp:   i haven't
(01:57 PM) scorp:   2:00 hop
(01:57 PM) BrainStorm:   may chop/ledge here...have done several times before as I said
(01:57 PM) ppusa:   i learned a lot
(01:58 PM) BrainStorm:   though looks lik it wants to blast on down
(01:58 PM) scorp:   me too
(01:58 PM) ppusa:   SCORP - you know when i said paper short before the final hump? 
(01:58 PM) scorp:   yes
(01:58 PM) Tom_B:   90.5 is a supp # , DAH shuda taken 1 there...but TOO close ti PIVOT
(01:59 PM) ppusa:   very important 
(01:59 PM) ppusa:   there was no target and no lower low
(01:59 PM) ppusa:   you need to remind
(01:59 PM) scorp:   thats tru
(01:59 PM) scorp:   true
(02:00 PM) ppusa:   yes because if i had entered i would probably have panicked and exited
(02:00 PM) scorp:   thats what i did
(02:00 PM) scorp:   i was short
(02:00 PM) scorp:   and exited
(02:00 PM) scorp:   most likely because no target
(02:00 PM) scorp:   but the divergence was there
(02:01 PM) scorp:   the ma cross was good too
(02:01 PM) ppusa:   yes but it is always the final touch that will separate you from being successful to being 
hugely successful
(02:02 PM) prakso3:   scorp - what MA crossover are you talking about ??thx
(02:02 PM) scorp:   we will be hugely successful if we keep it up
(02:02 PM) ppusa:   and if you like huge you will remeber every detail
(02:02 PM) scorp:   it was just the 3/10 that i mentioned
(02:02 PM) scorp:   but also the 5/20
(02:02 PM) ppusa:   but the real cross
(02:02 PM) scorp:   it was a series of events
(02:03 PM) scorp:   20MA
(02:03 PM) ppusa:   well you guys will just have to figure that out
(02:03 PM) tomsurf:   is that 3/10 ma's or MACD?
(02:03 PM) prakso3:   was lucky made 16 Pts 
(02:04 PM) ppusa:   take your pick tom.it's all kind of the same stuff
(02:04 PM) scorp:   both really
(02:04 PM) tomsurf:   great prakso ;-)
(02:04 PM) tippet:   congrats prasko
(02:04 PM) scorp:   nice prasko
(02:04 PM) prakso3:   thx tom - one of the first steps to get successful
(02:05 PM) scorp:   higher low on 144T
(02:05 PM) ppusa:   covered paper shorts now flat and smiling
(02:05 PM) scorp:   bline coming up
(02:05 PM) tomsurf:   scorp- trying to understand what you are talking of...you are running a 3/10 
macd with a 3 and 10 period ma?
(02:05 PM) prakso3:   thx to all of you - it gives me great pleasure and confidence to be in your room thx again
(02:05 PM) scorp:   sorry, tom - yes for both
(02:05 PM) scorp:   i have 3/10 ma up to see the lines
(02:05 PM) scorp:   and the eMACD of 3/10/1
(02:06 PM) tomsurf:   ok, thx....got it 
(02:08 PM) Tom_B:   Tom S , one of thgose sells
(02:09 PM) Tom_B:   setting up
(02:09 PM) ppusa:   how can you get esignal to refresh a chart that's missing some bars
(02:09 PM) scorp:   on ensign?
(02:09 PM) ppusa:   yes
(02:09 PM) tippet:   hmm were holding above that dwntrednline off the 1/09 hi
(02:09 PM) p_8:   hit mouse right button, select refresh, pp
(02:10 PM) scorp:   make sure intraday server is on
(02:10 PM) ppusa:   yea it's not filling them in
(02:10 PM) ppusa:   i'll try closing it
(02:10 PM) p_8:   uncheck preserver bar check box in setup manager
(02:11 PM) scorp:   another way is to delete all the bars and have it refill them
(02:11 PM) ppusa:   it is but i rechecked it and unchecked it
(02:11 PM) ppusa:   see what happens now
(02:11 PM) ppusa:   says updating
(02:11 PM) scorp:   good
(02:12 PM) scorp:   setting up for a buy here;
(02:12 PM) scorp:   divergence, watching trend
(02:12 PM) Tom_B:   scorp: Wht is trnd ?
(02:12 PM) scorp:   trendline
(02:13 PM) scorp:   top of the bars for 14:04 to now
(02:13 PM) ppusa:   hard to get good divergence on no new low
(02:13 PM) scorp:   if MACD goes green and we break the trendline, then i would buy
(02:14 PM) ppusa:   guess that means lower?
(02:14 PM) Tom_B:   This is a vry imp't top
(02:14 PM) scorp:   not going to get it
(02:14 PM) ppusa:   we are offically in sell for those that follow my trend determiner
(02:14 PM) Tom_B:   BIG TANK POTENTIAL
(02:14 PM) Tom_B:   Still fully shrt hre
(02:14 PM) tippet:   agree tom think we will go and finish the correction if we drop
(02:15 PM) Tom_B:   TRND CHNGE, imvho
(02:15 PM) scorp:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-27/scorp17.jpg
(02:15 PM) scorp:   that is what i was looking at
(02:16 PM) Tom_B:   HVE new trdng sys, cvr opn trade profits with quik trde window, lets me just manage the 
trade
(02:16 PM) p_8:   google arc here?
(02:16 PM) ppusa:   you know my paper trade and the 50 point thing? i don't know why i can't just stay short even 
on paper
(02:17 PM) tomsurf:   1382= s1
(02:17 PM) Tom_B:   hve 75 ish near trgt
(02:18 PM) tomsurf:   thx Tom
(02:18 PM) ppusa:   outside down day vs a bounce
(02:18 PM) Tom_B:   BUT this is an impulse wave DWN 
(02:18 PM) tomsurf:   ticks have yet to give a good dn flush
(02:18 PM) Tom_B:   73.5 - 75
(02:18 PM) ppusa:   yesterday's low 82.5
(02:19 PM) ppusa:   for day traders probably best to exit
(02:19 PM) ppusa:   position traders who knows
(02:20 PM) mj200:   if any one uses gann 1112.25 os esh2 is a gann line
(02:20 PM) Tom_B:   That pivot low is definitely gonna get hit, imvho that's the trgt for me 
(02:20 PM) Tom_B:   1382.5
(02:20 PM) tomsurf:   mj- good to know
(02:21 PM) mj200:   any time
(02:21 PM) scorp:   shelf?
(02:21 PM) tomsurf:   may have to digest this move some now
(02:22 PM) mj200:   and 1112.00 is 50% of pivot to r1
(02:22 PM) ppusa:   i will tell you how scared the CME was of me going short they turned my cable off!
(02:23 PM) mj200:   their risk mgr for their act
(02:23 PM) ppusa:   is this a long opportunity as well as a short cover?
(02:23 PM) ppusa:   is this whole pattern a 1-2 this being the 2
(02:24 PM) scorp:   thats what i am looking for now
(02:24 PM) ppusa:   something to think about after it completes
(02:24 PM) ppusa:   i think the daily says it isn't
(02:25 PM) ppusa:   but>>
(02:25 PM) BrainStorm:   thres yesterdays low which was your pivot tom ?
(02:26 PM) tomsurf:   ES fighting to hold 45min ema now
(02:26 PM) Tom_B:   out 1...tsp on 2nd
(02:26 PM) tomsurf:   good going Tom...bank alittle ;-)
(02:27 PM) Tom_B:   had 80 as a # but thnk 70's are more like it we'll see
(02:28 PM) Tom_B:   This is shwng failure potential
(02:28 PM) Tom_B:   ...NOT to get too bearish
(02:28 PM) Tom_B:   BUT
(02:28 PM) tomsurf:   trin actually telegraphed this move before it began
(02:32 PM) tomsurf:   moved from .69 to 1.11 straight up ;-)
(02:34 PM) Tom_B:   prob hre sitting on a # & close to a proj trgt BUT early in session...so...
(02:35 PM) Tom_B:   if we tke out 67...go to the strm shelter
(02:35 PM) TL11:   at 50% retrace of 2/22 low
(02:35 PM) ppusa:   1370 is last of 50 point target
(02:36 PM) Tom_B:   just hit trgt, grrr
(02:36 PM) 9r:   support @ 75
(02:37 PM) ppusa:   i ti don't think 50 point target will be met in one swoosh but you never know
(02:37 PM) ppusa:   do i have to be the first long to get you guys to cover
(02:37 PM) Tom_B:   out
(02:37 PM) ppusa:   where was your entry Tom?
(02:38 PM) Tom_B:   I'm slow, remember pp...1411.5
(02:39 PM) 9r:   looking to re-short at 87.50
(02:40 PM) Tom_B:   This is a W:3 of this wave dwn , so far as i can tell shd retrace to W:4 for another shrt oppty 
for a test of low or new low..
(02:41 PM) ppusa:   retrace to form a wave 4
(02:41 PM) Tom_B:   y
(02:42 PM) Tom_B:   9r & i are in the ballpk on the #
(02:42 PM) ppusa:   personally i am looking for 70 or lower
(02:42 PM) ppusa:   coincides
(02:42 PM) ppusa:   monday's gap too???
(02:42 PM) tomsurf:   1360 is s2 today fwiw
(02:43 PM) scorp:   200ma resistance?
(02:43 PM) ppusa:   what is s2?
(02:43 PM) Tom_B:   But i need some other stuff hre to line up... :)
(02:43 PM) tomsurf:   pp- support level 2 on daily pivots numbers
(02:44 PM) Tom_B:   TomS did u get a chance to see that setup ?
(02:44 PM) tomsurf:   tom- which one?
(02:44 PM) ppusa:   tks surf
(02:44 PM) ppusa:   tom bs
(02:44 PM) Tom_B:   the one i ment to u that was coming ?
(02:45 PM) tomsurf:   from the beging break?
(02:45 PM) Tom_B:   no the retr at 1400
(02:46 PM) Tom_B:   before the brk
(02:46 PM) tomsurf:   Tom...missed it in all the action...sorry, geez :-(
(02:46 PM) Tom_B:   NBD
(02:46 PM) globle:   hi room any chinese manufacturing companies here pls pm 
me
(02:47 PM) tomsurf:   had ES trade and bla bla trade for a friends account ...
(02:47 PM) Tom_B:   13:07 cst
(02:47 PM) Tom_B:   this is another 1 right hre
(02:48 PM) tomsurf:   yes
(02:48 PM) globle:   is no talking allowed in this room 
(02:49 PM) tomsurf:   globe, not during working hrs
(02:49 PM) Tom_B:   right globe no talking & we are futures traders only, tnk u
(02:49 PM) p_8:   no talking and this is an emini index futures trading room
(02:50 PM) globle:   where do i serch chinese manufacturing companies pls help 
(02:50 PM) Tom_B:   TOm worse case it's a scalp for end of W:5 of 3 or it was really W:4 of 3 so another leg dwn
(02:50 PM) ppusa:   the web
(02:50 PM) tomsurf:   globle has been bounced from the group
(02:50 PM) Tom_B:   tnx tom
(02:51 PM) tomsurf:   I'm soo over salemen coming in at important market pts!
(02:51 PM) Tom_B:   lol
(02:53 PM) Tom_B:   This little setup is the best one i hve
(02:53 PM) Tom_B:   usually scratch worse
(02:53 PM) Tom_B:   IF trade was to continue, great location
(02:53 PM) ppusa:   can you describe it?
(02:54 PM) Tom_B:   It's the simple ind i've told u abt... real simple
(02:55 PM) Tom_B:   this one didn't wrk but the prev one did for 20 or so pts...vry low riks
(02:55 PM) scorp:   long or short?
(02:55 PM) ppusa:   guess i haven't heard
(02:55 PM) ppusa:   other than wave cont
(02:55 PM) thoff:   silly question, but I just upgraded to win 2k...can anyone tell me where the scandisk program is? it isn't 
in accessories, like it was on win 98
(02:55 PM) Tom_B:   shrt
(02:55 PM) Tom_B:   This still may break...don't know
(02:56 PM) jalemany:   thoff, type chkdsk in a dos window
(02:57 PM) ppusa:   divergence
(02:57 PM) Maverick-Trader:   eSign feed behind again
(02:57 PM) Tom_B:   u just had test of low
(02:57 PM) thoff:   jalemany...isn't there a windows program for it?
(02:57 PM) Maverick-Trader:   at leat for me
(02:58 PM) Tom_B:   ttmar there or trail stp
(02:58 PM) dave_b_quik:   thoff, try start/programs/accessories/systemtools
(02:58 PM) thoff:   I tried that dave...it is not there 
(02:58 PM) thoff:   it used to be there on win 98
(02:59 PM) Tom_B:   Best is to trde multi esp on a day like today
(03:00 PM) dave_b_quik:   thoff, start/settings/taskbar&startmenu/advanced and check "display admin 
tools"
(03:00 PM) Tom_B:   73.5 was a trgt #...nvr know if there any good might just keep going
(03:01 PM) Tom_B:   67 is an impt # to me 
(03:01 PM) thoff:   ty dave let me try that...
(03:01 PM) Tom_B:   If we get under there i wud head for a shelter
(03:02 PM) Tom_B:   my TStop was not hit on last position so taking fish out of freezer
(03:02 PM) tomsurf:   oh, I see that puppy Tom
(03:02 PM) Tom_B:   good
(03:03 PM) Tom_B:   GRRR
(03:03 PM) tippet:   this is 62% off los
(03:03 PM) tippet:   lows
(03:04 PM) thoff:   dave, still didn't work :-(
(03:05 PM) Tom_B:   TomS it's for W:3's
(03:05 PM) BrainStorm:   Im done cant trade with dodgy data and need a nap long long day
(03:05 PM) BrainStorm:   keep those stops tight
(03:06 PM) Tom_B:   W:2's are much hrdr to read
(03:06 PM) tomsurf:   take care Brain :-)
(03:06 PM) tomsurf:   TomB...thx
(03:06 PM) Tom_B:   By Brain
(03:06 PM) dave_b_quik:   thoff, that checkbox should make it visible on the program list
(03:08 PM) Tom_B:   pp, r u itching to buy ?
(03:08 PM) ppusa:   that looks like w5 low
(03:09 PM) Tom_B:   of W:3 maybe also hld 67 key ovr the edge # (to Me) Cud be W:4retr but TRND DWN so I'll 
wait to sell rally
(03:09 PM) thoff:   dave, it still is not on the program list
(03:10 PM) ppusa:   PnF overextended.i was looking for 67.5 as an attempted entry but nissed
(03:11 PM) jalemany:   I don't think there is a scandisk in w2k, just chkdsk
(03:11 PM) ppusa:   10 point reverses at 80
(03:11 PM) ppusa:   hoping pb prior
(03:11 PM) scorp:   not sure here
(03:11 PM) Tom_B:   got 80 as key hre too
(03:12 PM) ppusa:   not akey just a number
(03:12 PM) Tom_B:   right
(03:12 PM) Tom_B:   but look at the reaction
(03:13 PM) ppusa:   now watch
(03:13 PM) ppusa:   82 was low from yester so 80 area good point to stop
(03:14 PM) Tom_B:   Tom S see set ?
(03:15 PM) Tom_B:   This low is really key
(03:16 PM) ppusa:   key for what?
(03:16 PM) Tom_B:   stpng the fall if 67 goes you'll see an intrstng evnt, imvho
(03:17 PM) ppusa:   the daily charts look like today's high was the beginning of thenext move down to wherever it 
bottoms and not likely here
(03:17 PM) tomsurf:   TomB- I see it but not sure I see it the way you do...will remeber to talk to ya 
later ;-)
(03:17 PM) Tom_B:   k :)
(03:17 PM) scorp:   i have a headache
(03:17 PM) scorp:   so much thinking today
(03:18 PM) Tom_B:   Y, scorp, if i did sme more thnkg i'd be better off :)
(03:19 PM) 9r:   Tom B lol...carlin
(03:21 PM) jimbo_320:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-27/auto-trader3.gif
(03:22 PM) jimbo_320:   good 5 wave move down
(03:24 PM) jimbo_320:   no one here ? or got heads down
(03:24 PM) Tom_B:   dazed...jim
(03:25 PM) 9r:   long 76.50
(03:25 PM) jimbo_320:   ok tom, tis quiet
(03:26 PM) Tom_B:   whn we crossed 73 cud buy trgt 89
(03:26 PM) Tom_B:   NOT ME
(03:27 PM) Tom_B:   I"m waiting to sell the W:4 of this puppy
(03:29 PM) jimbo_320:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-27/auto-trader4.gif
(03:29 PM) tippet:   u have that at roughly 38% of this move down or 90ish??
(03:29 PM) brach:   jimbo, is this mkt really moving down?
(03:30 PM) brach:   oh, it's moving up now
(03:31 PM) scorp:   whats the point?
(03:31 PM) brach:   MAs tell you where the market is, not where it's going to be
(03:34 PM) 9r:   out 77.50 +1 for my troubles
(03:34 PM) ppusa:   sorry 9r
(03:34 PM) Tom_B:   shrt
(03:35 PM) jimbo_320:   is it a pb of start of move
(03:35 PM) Tom_B:   78
(03:35 PM) ppusa:   i was looking at short there.should have said something
(03:35 PM) jimbo_320:   or start
(03:35 PM) jimbo_320:   buyers could well be scred right away
(03:36 PM) ppusa:   6 point PnF reversed
(03:36 PM) 9r:   pp doesn't matter...wouldn't have listened...can't trade your stuff n mine too
(03:37 PM) Tom_B:   out
(03:37 PM) tippet:   stalking the 20ema5 overhead for short 83.5ish if we make it
(03:37 PM) Tom_B:   -2
(03:37 PM) scorp:   i'm going to end the day red
(03:37 PM) ppusa:   this drop retraced 62percent of rally from low
(03:38 PM) Tom_B:   RED in the red ?
(03:39 PM) p_8:   y, tip, for a 5-min grail sell, 5min adx was at 49 before this retracement
(03:39 PM) ppusa:   it isn't over
(03:39 PM) brach:   is Fibonacci in this room?
(03:40 PM) Tom_B:   Almost shrtd it agn, but
(03:42 PM) Tom_B:   67 looks like a good # for now
(03:42 PM) Tom_B:   HI brach
(03:42 PM) 9r:   almost bought it again lol
(03:42 PM) brach:   hi Tom
(03:42 PM) Tom_B:   hw u doing ?
(03:43 PM) brach:   great (after i got my datafeed going)
(03:43 PM) Tom_B:   NAH, who say u need one of those ??
(03:43 PM) GL1958:   n
(03:44 PM) brach:   looking for a rally to W:4?
(03:45 PM) Tom_B:   Y...& resell...figure this thing to continue dwn BUT suprised it's coming up for air..89 shd hld 
it, imvho
(03:46 PM) brach:   we came close to a 62% retracement of the rally that topped yesterday
(03:46 PM) Tom_B:   Getting late also so i'm done unless a "no-brainer" setsup...hmmm don't get too many of 
those :)
(03:47 PM) ppusa:   short at 84.5
(03:47 PM) ppusa:   stop at 84 for quick out
(03:47 PM) ppusa:   or let it run
(03:47 PM) ppusa:   10 and 6 point PnF
(03:47 PM) Tom_B:   lks like a decent scalp pp
(03:48 PM) tomsurf:   brach- yes, se that
(03:48 PM) jimbo_320:   http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-27/auto-trader5.gif
(03:49 PM) ppusa:   to slow on the buy back so left stop
(03:49 PM) Tom_B:   brach i use a free hand form of ELL/FIB/GANN...hve no idea wht i'm doing :) but had 1622-26 
as the Great wall of China
(03:49 PM) brach:   yes, it's moving up
(03:49 PM) ppusa:   6 reversed 10 hasn't
(03:50 PM) ppusa:   i gotta run see you all tomorrow
(03:50 PM) Tom_B:   1422-26
(03:51 PM) Tom_B:   bye pp
(03:51 PM) ppusa:   that's the last 50 point reversal i call in here
(03:51 PM) scorp:   i'm done
(03:51 PM) tomsurf:   see ya pp ;-)
(03:51 PM) ppusa:   by
(03:52 PM) Tom_B:   not 4 da faint of heart, I'm done
(03:52 PM) Tom_B:   3m also great setup for w:4 also
(03:53 PM) Tom_B:   not enough time, imho...
(03:53 PM) Tom_B:   Take care all, hope u all had good day...must go to 
(03:53 PM) Tom_B:   other life :(
(03:53 PM) brach:   yes (3 humps-risign wedge)
(03:53 PM) 9r:   bye tom b
(03:54 PM) Tom_B:   If it doesn't falll then maybe gap dwn..
(03:54 PM) Tom_B:   BYE :)
(03:55 PM) ppusa:   if any of you are interested in any more calls like that 50 point PnF you will have to find some way to 
contribute something.
(03:55 PM) brach:   interesting how 5-wave wedges are now called "3 humps" so as to obscure and connection to EW
(03:55 PM) brach:   :)
(03:55 PM) jimbo_320:   looks like selling is done
(03:56 PM) Tom_B:   Just kidding pp, GOOD CALL
(03:57 PM) 9r:   me either ;)
(03:57 PM) ppusa:   i know that brach
(03:57 PM) brach:   ...or puts
(03:57 PM) ppusa:   anyone else
(04:00 PM) tomsurf:   brach- don't think the 3 humper is to obscure EW...just a simple way tfor 
people to relate and see ;-)
(04:00 PM) brach:   5 waves seems as easy to spot as 3 humps, IMO
(04:01 PM) brach:   (but there's that awful "wave" word)
(04:01 PM) tomsurf:   brach- you have alot of experiance with EW though.
(04:01 PM) jimbo_320:   dow held at 50ema30
(04:01 PM) tomsurf:   hey, surfers like waves :-)
(04:01 PM) brach:   yes, and i am amazed at how it encompasses so many of TA concepts
(04:02 PM) tomsurf:   heck from the fibo book I'm reading it encompasses just about everything 
(04:02 PM) jimbo_320:   done here have good night all
(04:03 PM) brach:   Fib. and EW are inseparable
(04:03 PM) tippet:   toms u reading fischer
(04:03 PM) tomsurf:   you too jimbo
(04:03 PM) tippet:   ?
(04:03 PM) paul 910:   buffy would you ask foollio to please e mail buffy template #3 up dated version i'm in my 
boston office tk u :) paul from york 1963
(04:03 PM) tomsurf:   brach- yes
(04:05 PM) plevin:   does anyone have NQ data from Oct 2001 and/or Jan 2002, in either ASCII or 
Ensign formats?
(04:05 PM) fooliosbrother:   i might have it in ascii
(04:06 PM) plevin:   that's great foolio, can you check and let me know
(04:06 PM) fooliosbrother:   no
(04:06 PM) plevin:   if you do, can you email it to me pls
(04:06 PM) fooliosbrother:   sure :)
(04:06 PM) plevin:   thanks
(04:07 PM) paul 910:   new version of #3 template Buffy,s circles & stocastics template E mail up here is 
paulnader@msn.com
(04:08 PM) plevin:   foolio, I'll take whatever you have. Actually I should have been more specific, I 
was looking for NQ 1 min bars
(04:08 PM) plevin:   is that what you have?
(04:08 PM) plevin:   cool