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(09:16 AM) tippet: anyone think we may see a gap and snap to relieve short term oversold cond??
(09:18 AM) tomsurf: morning tippet and all
(09:19 AM) BrainStorm: morning
(09:20 AM) tomsurf: tip- that's possible....after 3day weekend I'll let things sort themselves out first I think
(09:20 AM) Tom_B: GM al
(09:20 AM) Tom_B: all
(09:20 AM) jimbo_320: good morning
(09:23 AM) ppusa: yes oversold PnF...looking to buy this am
(09:24 AM) dave_b_quik: g'morning all
(09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: morning all
(09:24 AM) tomsurf: moring dave
(09:25 AM) tomsurf: hi Buffy
(09:25 AM) plevin: GM all
(09:25 AM) Bob Cole: gm
(09:25 AM) dave_b_quik: yesterday's google transcript is posted at http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/Pattern_Recognition/google_presidentsday_session/rule_of_4.htm
(09:26 AM) Buffy_04364: hi plevin - did jessica make school?
(09:26 AM) Bob Cole: pleven, did you and Buffy ever get to an agreement on indicators last night?
(09:26 AM) Buffy_04364: he has something to try today Bob if he has time
(09:27 AM) plevin: buffy, she was in pain, but she did go to school. I'll be bringing her meds at 12:30
(09:27 AM) Buffy_04364: :-(
(09:27 AM) plevin: yes bob, I'll be coding something in the next hour, and we'll see how it does
(09:27 AM) plevin: yeah I know buffy
(09:28 AM) plevin: her pants fit better, so we think the gasX is working for the blotting
(09:28 AM) Buffy_04364: hate to see what the futures would be without the good housing starts
(09:28 AM) tippet: 1794 is 79% retr of the last move up on naz..ndx well looks like crap already blew thru that.. below the last buy leaf and just above S1
(09:28 AM) Buffy_04364: tks tippet
(09:30 AM) BrainStorm: cant get briefing.com at the moment any reports due today ?
(09:30 AM) qatwo: no reports
(09:30 AM) Buffy_04364: don't think so
(09:30 AM) Buffy_04364: just the housing already out
(09:30 AM) tippet: already out
(09:30 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks qatwo
(09:31 AM) qatwo: cpi tomorrow
(09:32 AM) BrainStorm: thanks bufy&tippet
(09:32 AM) tippet: anyone watching spx daily may get a kissback (the test -) to its falling wedge which it broke out of 2/13
(09:33 AM) tippet: right around here
(09:33 AM) Buffy_04364: k
(09:33 AM) tippet: SOX at its 20emadaily
(09:34 AM) ppusa: hoping they give a definitive buy signal down here to go long
(09:35 AM) ppusa: so far down
(09:35 AM) tippet: INDU opened under 20ema dialy
(09:35 AM) qatwo: globex lows
(09:36 AM) Bob Cole: stoch x-over on 1 minute
(09:37 AM) Buffy_04364: tks
(09:37 AM) ppusa: SP may hve put in low..watching
(09:38 AM) ppusa: long
(09:38 AM) jimbo_320: i am integrating with the automated trading api from interactive brokers this week and hope to get working by the end of this week. !!
(09:39 AM) tomsurf: great jimbo
(09:39 AM) FrankT: Using the dde or Active x link Jimbo?
(09:39 AM) jimbo_320: sockets link
(09:39 AM) FrankT: kool
(09:40 AM) Tom_B: Great Jim
(09:40 AM) jimbo_320: i can also use the real time quotes for the securities from their api and save me some big bucks on quote feeds etc
(09:40 AM) ppusa: flat...buy back somewhere
(09:41 AM) jimbo_320: full systems for $10 a month waived if you make more than 10 trades a month :-)
(09:41 AM) jimbo_320: bit hairy at moment as i am using my own account, one wrong character and i could be long 200 contracts !
(09:41 AM) Bob Cole: waiting for pullback to lbb... maybe
(09:43 AM) ppusa: lbb?
(09:43 AM) ppusa: lower bollinger band?
(09:43 AM) Bob Cole: lower boll band
(09:43 AM) Bob Cole: yeah
(09:43 AM) tippet: hit 79% retr fall from open
(09:44 AM) jimbo_320: enjoy the day, gotta get head down
(09:44 AM) tomsurf: ok jimbo- have at it ;-)
(09:47 AM) Bob Cole: ready ppusa?
(09:47 AM) Bob Cole: long 1420.5
(09:48 AM) ppusa: in
(09:49 AM) Tom_B: brb
(09:49 AM) ppusa: one thing i don't like
(09:49 AM) ppusa: only one
(09:49 AM) Bob Cole: looks weak
(09:49 AM) Bob Cole: ?
(09:49 AM) tkay_1: hi
(09:50 AM) Buffy_04364: hi tkay
(09:50 AM) ppusa: slope of ma's on 5 minute
(09:51 AM) tippet: slope+ double black diamond
(09:51 AM) tippet: =
(09:51 AM) Buffy_04364: test of low
(09:52 AM) Bob Cole: adding ?
(09:52 AM) Bob Cole: 1418.5
(09:53 AM) Buffy_04364: nice bob
(09:53 AM) Bob Cole: gonna scalp it
(09:53 AM) ppusa: still long here
(09:53 AM) Bob Cole: out
(09:54 AM) Buffy_04364: divergence on stoch on 1M adn3m also
(09:54 AM) ppusa: not ready to add
(09:54 AM) Tom_B: bk
(09:55 AM) ppusa: has to break 22
(09:55 AM) Bob Cole: waiting for the S&P Steve "lay-up" here
(09:55 AM) Bob Cole: flat here
(09:56 AM) ppusa: whew for now
(09:58 AM) Tom_B: pp, y buying ?
(09:58 AM) ppusa: yes and no
(09:59 AM) ppusa: yes ...may try a scalp
(09:59 AM) Bob Cole: can't stay above S1
(10:00 AM) ppusa: SP
(10:01 AM) ppusa: flat watch for a minute
(10:02 AM) Buffy_04364: same pp
(10:02 AM) Buffy_04364: 55T trapped in 50-200 ema right now
(10:02 AM) ppusa: bot some q's there as well which i still have
(10:03 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(10:04 AM) Buffy_04364: test of high
(10:04 AM) Bob Cole: shorting it?
(10:04 AM) Buffy_04364: tagged 50ema on 1m
(10:04 AM) ppusa: longer term PnF is way oversold so i think more follow through upside
(10:04 AM) Buffy_04364: no bob
(10:05 AM) ppusa: however most ma's are sloped the wrong way
(10:05 AM) Buffy_04364: bline over 20 on 55T
(10:05 AM) Buffy_04364: waiting
(10:05 AM) Bob Cole: thx
(10:05 AM) Buffy_04364: LS though
(10:05 AM) Buffy_04364: ib 1m
(10:05 AM) ppusa: Buffy i question LS
(10:06 AM) Buffy_04364: think long though if can close above tos
(10:06 AM) Bob Cole: 1424 for scalp
(10:06 AM) Buffy_04364: which it just did
(10:06 AM) tippet: consider shorting the 20ema5 when it gets there 29.5
(10:06 AM) Buffy_04364: 2 ib 1m
(10:06 AM) Tom_B: Res 25-27
(10:06 AM) tkay_1: where's spsteve?
(10:06 AM) ppusa: sounds good tippet...by then the stochastics might be a little higher
(10:07 AM) dave_b_quik: SPSteve said he would only be able to be here when his schedule allows
(10:07 AM) tkay_1: ah
(10:07 AM) tippet: the long at 22 was good
(10:07 AM) ppusa: 6 tick pb due soon
(10:08 AM) Buffy_04364: hittign 200 on 55T
(10:08 AM) ppusa: resis here
(10:08 AM) Bob Cole: sold 1425.5 flat again
(10:09 AM) ppusa: situation is a buy signal through 29 or pb or new low first
(10:10 AM) ppusa: ma's look a little obot
(10:11 AM) tippet: newly revived virus outthere... labeled new pictures from my party
(10:11 AM) ppusa: i am leaning towards up because of the point and figure but in this situation i can't tell whether down first
(10:11 AM) Bob Cole: long at S1
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(10:11 AM) Bob Cole: 1421.5
(10:12 AM) tippet: broke uptrendline careful
(10:12 AM) Bob Cole: thanks
(10:13 AM) Tom_B: shrt 20
(10:13 AM) Tom_B: sleeping
(10:14 AM) Bob Cole: sleep walking back above 1421.5 please
(10:14 AM) Tom_B: lol
(10:15 AM) Tom_B: Hit 27 res & i just was transfixed :(
(10:15 AM) Bob Cole: sold
(10:16 AM) Tom_B: potent sometime for 1493 or lwr
(10:17 AM) Tom_B: 80 - 93...
(10:17 AM) Tom_B: of course, who knows :)
(10:18 AM) Tom_B: 1393
(10:19 AM) Bob Cole: whew
(10:19 AM) ppusa: PnF suggests sometime soon a nice turn around...in the meantime, shorting, waiting for buy signal for long again
(10:19 AM) tippet: nice short Tom
(10:20 AM) Bob Cole: long 1414
(10:20 AM) Tom_B: tx, to hld or not to hld, that is the ques, grrr
(10:21 AM) Tom_B: I'm hldng
(10:21 AM) tippet: Bob what are us seeing that makes u want to go long?
(10:21 AM) Bob Cole: red
(10:22 AM) Bob Cole: stoch cross under 20 short term
(10:22 AM) tippet: tf?
(10:22 AM) Bob Cole: oversold... scalp play
(10:22 AM) ppusa: normally given this action there is no turn around until after lunch
(10:22 AM) Bob Cole: yikes
(10:23 AM) Tom_B: this IS the retrace
(10:24 AM) tippet: SPX back inside its falling wedge -not a bullish scenario
(10:25 AM) tippet: have ndx daily at its last uptrendlin off sept lows here
(10:25 AM) BrainStorm: just wish Id stayed short from the open...shoulda woulda coulda still got 3 reasonable swings
(10:26 AM) Buffy_04364: hindsight is great in this game :-)
(10:26 AM) Tom_B: can rotate, of course...but still in W:3 dwn most impulsive (strongest) of course wud like to see it hit trgts :) before W:4 retrace a,b,c
(10:26 AM) BrainStorm: yup isnt it just...though always a lesson to be learned
(10:26 AM) ppusa: extremely oversold PnF
(10:27 AM) BrainStorm: I personaly feel very uncomfortable through retracements of more than a couple of points
(10:27 AM) QSuzy: macd crossover to upside imminent on 2min...
(10:27 AM) Bob Cole: looking a little better
(10:27 AM) Buffy_04364: tks suzy
(10:28 AM) Tom_B: This is the part that bugs me, hldng a shrt aganst a retrace
(10:28 AM) BrainStorm: same
(10:29 AM) Tom_B: shd hld 18
(10:29 AM) Bob Cole: scalped ... out at 1415.5
(10:29 AM) ppusa: if it wasn't for the slope of the ma's (trend) which is down i would be screaming buy!
(10:30 AM) Tom_B: I'll cvr 18, grrr
(10:30 AM) BrainStorm: above the previous lod (15)
(10:30 AM) ppusa: Tom on a normal day short is the appropriate positin here
(10:31 AM) BrainStorm: previous=the one set in the first 30 mins or so
(10:31 AM) Buffy_04364: tos there too
(10:31 AM) Tom_B: Vry int Buffy since i'm getting my #'s frm diff tolls but get same #'s ... :)
(10:32 AM) Tom_B: tools
(10:32 AM) Bob Cole: short 1415
(10:32 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(10:32 AM) tkay_1: tom, you're doin the seedwave thingie?
(10:32 AM) Buffy_04364: but so many feel pyra doesn't work :-)
(10:33 AM) Tom_B: tkay ?
(10:33 AM) tkay_1: elliot wave
(10:33 AM) Buffy_04364: a case can be made for HnS on 1m
(10:33 AM) Tom_B: Buff, I'm not using Pyra but similar concepts..Fib/Gann
(10:33 AM) Buffy_04364: yes I realize that tom
(10:34 AM) Tom_B: Y, Tkay
(10:34 AM) Buffy_04364: just saying pyra works as they do
(10:34 AM) Buffy_04364: for me anyway
(10:34 AM) BrainStorm: isnt prya based on some of ganns work ?
(10:34 AM) Tom_B: nice thing abt this area, nice spot to shrt if wrong, vry low risk
(10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: yes
(10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: square of nine and time
(10:35 AM) Tom_B: Buffy..you're GREAT at Pyra..it's a great tool
(10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: tks
(10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: ib 3m
(10:37 AM) Tom_B: might be time for me to ck out of this shrt..., time is Critical hre
(10:37 AM) Bob Cole: square of nine and time? hmmm? gotta do some reading
(10:37 AM) alan123: buffy what is ib?
(10:37 AM) ppusa: got a little steep on that decline...need sideways
(10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: inside bar
(10:38 AM) ppusa: high of current hour
(10:38 AM) alan123: obviously i am sleeping
(10:38 AM) alan123: ty
(10:38 AM) FrankT: Volume waning
(10:38 AM) BrainStorm: volume makes me very cautious at the mo
(10:39 AM) Buffy_04364: all pyra indicators below 20 except for rsi
(10:39 AM) tippet: VIX breaks 26
(10:40 AM) ppusa: toop of a step there
(10:40 AM) ppusa: top
(10:40 AM) Bob Cole: covering
(10:41 AM) Tom_B: Bob u shrt ?
(10:41 AM) Bob Cole: was at 1415
(10:41 AM) Bob Cole: no more
(10:41 AM) Tom_B: nice
(10:42 AM) Bob Cole: watch it fall... :)
(10:42 AM) Tom_B: hope so :)
(10:42 AM) Bob Cole: you still short?
(10:42 AM) Tom_B: y
(10:42 AM) Bob Cole: :)
(10:45 AM) Tom_B: TO exit 1405 or go 4 the gusto ?
(10:45 AM) Bob Cole: ya want $$$ or gusto?
(10:45 AM) BrainStorm: take 1/2 :)
(10:45 AM) Tom_B: All or nothing :(
(10:46 AM) Buffy_04364: 1405 bos
(10:46 AM) Tom_B: tnx Buffy
(10:46 AM) ppusa: how about a compromise and scalp
(10:47 AM) tippet: watching patttern on 3min 144t as opposed to h&s could be falling wedgey - got poke? also at 08 bottom good of place as any for countertrend if its gonna happen
(10:47 AM) Tom_B: out 8
(10:47 AM) Bob Cole: wtg
(10:48 AM) ppusa: short term PnF says begin series of bounces until a LOD is in
(10:48 AM) Tom_B: Tnx everyone
(10:48 AM) Tom_B: Still hve lower trgt
(10:49 AM) Bob Cole: 1402?
(10:49 AM) ppusa: nice short Tom...i like it because then we all have something to trade
(10:49 AM) ppusa: :)
(10:49 AM) Tom_B: pp, ?
(10:49 AM) Tom_B: ya, u guys trde against me...
(10:50 AM) Tom_B: :)
(10:50 AM) ppusa: no we all tell you what to do :)
(10:50 AM) BrainStorm: any one following/trading retro ? looks like it might have been chopped a bit ?
(10:50 AM) Buffy_04364: retro doesn't like chop days
(10:51 AM) tippet: upper trnline wedge
(10:51 AM) ppusa: brb
(10:51 AM) Tom_B: Hope u guys wud get it btr then... :)
(10:51 AM) BrainStorm: still has a lot of merit5 I think...notice the list has been a little quiet too
(10:52 AM) tippet: trin nq took a lil dive
(10:53 AM) Tom_B: Res now 12...if i was hldng shrt..
(10:53 AM) Bob Cole: short 1408.5
(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-19/Buffy-beta_wedge_3m14.gif
(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: your wedge tipped
(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: ?
(10:53 AM) Tom_B: Buffy, u hve a # there ?
(10:53 AM) tippet: poss rule of 4 coming on trendline if we go up?
(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: tipped=tippet
(10:53 AM) Buffy_04364: yes tom
(10:54 AM) tippet: IF
(10:54 AM) Tom_B: :) grt
(10:54 AM) Buffy_04364: my price on crosshairs not working in beta
(10:54 AM) Buffy_04364: maybe 1410.75
(10:54 AM) Buffy_04364: area
(10:55 AM) Tom_B: HW u like beta ?
(10:55 AM) Buffy_04364: like it lots
(10:55 AM) Bob Cole: coverd scalp
(10:55 AM) Buffy_04364: and just figured out the work around
(10:55 AM) Tom_B: ur smart Buffy :)
(10:55 AM) Buffy_04364: 1412.33 is tos
(10:55 AM) tippet: nice buffy - couldnt post again ...
(10:56 AM) Buffy_04364: and 1404.83 is bos
(10:56 AM) tippet: LL
(10:56 AM) Buffy_04364: with 1408.54 in there too
(10:56 AM) tippet: at line
(10:56 AM) Tom_B: on RO4, i just see 3rd right now..
(10:57 AM) tippet: little 4
(10:57 AM) ppusa: had to do it...long q's again
(10:57 AM) tippet: broke it
(10:57 AM) Buffy_04364: yep
(10:57 AM) Tom_B: i see it
(10:58 AM) Buffy_04364: 1416.04 is nexttos which is close to the 200ema on 55T
(10:58 AM) ppusa: i see completed patterns to that low
(10:58 AM) tippet: volume certainly isnt convincing
(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: ticks positive
(10:59 AM) ppusa: ma's still neg....stoch cross on 5 is bullish
(10:59 AM) Tom_B: Buff i hve arnd 19-1420 for trgt also...
(10:59 AM) ppusa: had buy diverg
(11:00 AM) ppusa: 50 bar ma here on 1 min
(11:01 AM) Tom_B: i'm lkng 4 a shrt :)...dah
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(11:02 AM) Buffy_04364: 2 hills?
(11:02 AM) Buffy_04364: 1M
(11:03 AM) ppusa: until price crosses the 20 on the 5 and 15....not seriously long
(11:03 AM) BrainStorm: looking for the price to bump into one of those to get seriously short ;)
(11:04 AM) ppusa: to oversold for the 15
(11:05 AM) tippet: still like long here
(11:05 AM) tippet: as scalp for sure
(11:05 AM) BrainStorm: yes though this pullback is welcome like to see 3 15 min green bars
(11:05 AM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-19/Buffy-beta_hills_1M15.gif
(11:06 AM) Tom_B: Brain...wht Grn bars r u referring to ?
(11:07 AM) Buffy_04364: didn't do that perfect but you can get the idea
(11:07 AM) ppusa: by the time price hits the 20 the trend will have changed??????????
(11:07 AM) BrainStorm: well generaly 3 bars pullback...would give me onfidence in further short
(11:08 AM) Tom_B: Anyone still lng frm RO4 ?
(11:08 AM) tippet: volume is almost gone
(11:09 AM) Tom_B: This is pause that refreshens... to shrt or wait ?
(11:09 AM) Buffy_04364: no waiting for R)4 on 1m to play out
(11:10 AM) QSuzy: if we could go up from here would have a successful test of low from Feb8.....
(11:10 AM) Tom_B: Wish there was more retrace to hve a cushion
(11:10 AM) Buffy_04364: R04
(11:10 AM) alan123: rascke says tyhat after a big move --rest --then afternoon follow through on move
(11:10 AM) alan123: raschke
(11:10 AM) alan123: many timeas
(11:10 AM) Tom_B: I hve sells hre but i am passing NOT good R/R
(11:10 AM) Buffy_04364: tks alan
(11:10 AM) tippet: was long but will stopped out brk even at 9.5
(11:11 AM) Tom_B: Tnx
(11:11 AM) tippet: no will gone
(11:11 AM) BrainStorm: 2B on 5 min...invalis imo no volume or follow through
(11:11 AM) tippet: if it goes w/o c'est la vie
(11:11 AM) alan123: big players rest then come back many times she says
(11:11 AM) BrainStorm: invalis=invalid
(11:12 AM) Tom_B: my trgt still stands, 4 whatevr that's wrth :)
(11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: 1419.75? is a pyra tos also
(11:13 AM) Tom_B: I'd really like to see some shrts taken out first though
(11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-19/Buffy-beta_hills_1M16.gif
(11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: really a 55T chart
(11:14 AM) BrainStorm: cant really see where there are likely to be stops
(11:14 AM) Buffy_04364: charts not in same position as old workspace
(11:14 AM) BrainStorm: 1510 probably but thats a hell of a way :)
(11:14 AM) Tom_B: grrr
(11:16 AM) Tom_B: Pass da fish
(11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: bos did not hold
(11:16 AM) BrainStorm: guess thats where the closest stops are then ?
(11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: 1401.17 next
(11:17 AM) BrainStorm: or the most orders at least
(11:17 AM) Bob Cole: long 1404
(11:17 AM) ppusa: ><00000>
(11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: i want reanchor in pyra
(11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(11:18 AM) Tom_B: LOL
(11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: iffy one at 10:46
(11:18 AM) ppusa: ><00>
(11:19 AM) Tom_B: u made ur pt
(11:19 AM) scorp: big fish, little fish
(11:19 AM) ppusa: Tom would you like a barracuda or a mackeral
(11:19 AM) Tom_B: smelt...i stink :)
(11:19 AM) ppusa: anchovie
(11:19 AM) ppusa: coming up
(11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: it happens to all of us tom
(11:20 AM) Bob Cole: sold
(11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: I did it with demo last night
(11:20 AM) ppusa: ><S))M)E))l)T>
(11:20 AM) BrainStorm: how did your bline talk go btw ? I was sorry to have missd it...time difference makes things tricky
(11:20 AM) Tom_B: just kidding... no big deal...conscious decision not to take because of R/R... just don't want to see it get to 1392 without me :)
(11:21 AM) ppusa: what is R/R
(11:21 AM) Tom_B: rsk/rwrd
(11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: we got a late start - paltalk down etc but ok once we got going
(11:22 AM) ppusa: i have a stupid question.......after you exitm why don't you start scalping and re-enter?
(11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: who you asking pp?
(11:22 AM) Tom_B: need btr r/r evn to scalp...
(11:22 AM) ppusa: smalet man
(11:23 AM) ppusa: smelt man
(11:23 AM) Buffy_04364: k
(11:23 AM) Tom_B: at least that last shrt setup
(11:24 AM) Tom_B: I'm really not vry good at it
(11:24 AM) ppusa: you just put a ,imit order in to exit and another to re-enter a few points higher until you get proben wrong
(11:25 AM) ppusa: until oversold is worked off then you stay short
(11:25 AM) Tom_B: Ques 4 aRO4 conniseurs.. will this retrace triggr a RO$ agn ?
(11:25 AM) Tom_B: RO4
(11:26 AM) ppusa: oh i see we have a bunch of new abbreviations today
(11:27 AM) tippet: good ? prior pattern seemed invalid new bigger pattern here? see 3 touches
(11:27 AM) Tom_B: or is symmetry all wrong ?
(11:27 AM) Tom_B: y, wrkng on #4
(11:27 AM) ppusa: again buy divergence on that last low
(11:28 AM) Tom_B: but tipp, no touch on #2
(11:28 AM) tippet: now
(11:28 AM) ppusa: 20 ma on 5 here
(11:29 AM) tippet: i only see 3 touches not 4 on a valid pattern
(11:29 AM) Tom_B: buy 1408-9 ish
(11:29 AM) Tom_B: ?
(11:30 AM) Tom_B: so this isn't good because it didn't touch on #2, evntho there's a wave there ?
(11:30 AM) ppusa: careful shorts???????
(11:30 AM) tippet: need the google meister to answer tom i'm torn as well
(11:31 AM) tippet: but yest she said when raz asked similar ? no touch on a wave meant NO touch
(11:32 AM) tippet: es at lod?
(11:32 AM) Tom_B: tnx Tipp
(11:33 AM) tkay_1: very clear waves pattern today
(11:33 AM) tkay_1: do they all measure fibonnacci wise i wonder
(11:33 AM) tkay_1: tom?
(11:33 AM) Tom_B: ?
(11:34 AM) Tom_B: tkay?
(11:34 AM) tkay_1: ehm
(11:34 AM) Tom_B: clearing ur throat ?
(11:34 AM) Tom_B: :)
(11:34 AM) tkay_1: im wondering
(11:34 AM) ppusa: one more low?????
(11:35 AM) BrainStorm: I found fib to be off today (time was close)
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: that might be a higher low
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: we will see pp
(11:35 AM) tkay_1: do the waves that can be seen today measure according to fib
(11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: although still need reanchor in pyra
(11:35 AM) ppusa: higher low?????
(11:36 AM) tippet: could be setting up for the 4th touch here
(11:36 AM) Tom_B: keep bumping aganst minor res
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: this next low might be yes
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: IMO
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: thing against it is need reanchor
(11:37 AM) Tom_B: tipp u on 3m ?
(11:37 AM) tippet: y and 144t
(11:38 AM) tippet: 144t shows it well
(11:39 AM) Tom_B: tipp, it seems out of wack on 3m..
(11:40 AM) tippet: youre right little break on the 3rd?
(11:40 AM) Tom_B: y
(11:40 AM) Tom_B: so...ng ?
(11:41 AM) tippet: ? able
(11:41 AM) tippet: buy diver om 3min smax at bottom?
(11:41 AM) tippet: here we are
(11:41 AM) Tom_B: pp, u shld read up on google's talk yest...& see chrts under yest folder, presidents day
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(11:42 AM) tippet: tick nq pullback so either good short or long
(11:42 AM) tippet: ?
(11:42 AM) Tom_B: tipp, no good ?
(11:42 AM) tippet: poke dont know tom
(11:42 AM) Tom_B: RO4
(11:42 AM) tippet: 20ema5 now overhead at 12
(11:43 AM) alan123: is google's latest talk transcript posted?
(11:43 AM) Buffy_04364: yes
(11:44 AM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/Pattern_Recognition/google_presidentsday_session/
(11:44 AM) Buffy_04364: it is the htm file
(11:44 AM) tippet: bet we go up hit 20ema5 -which willl be resis your call but
(11:44 AM) alan123: ty
(11:44 AM) subtvshow1: hey guys, i have a question, is anyone in here familiar with traders international?
(11:44 AM) Buffy_04364: other files are charts she used
(11:44 AM) alan123: thanks buffy
(11:44 AM) Buffy_04364: plevin is I think
(11:44 AM) Tom_B: tnx, just watching...see potential for a,b,c W:4 ...these r hardest for me to figure ... or just retrace before contin of W:3 dwn.. Either way trat W:$ the same, if it is a correction to W:3.
(11:45 AM) tippet: what time frame r u lookng at when drawing waves
(11:46 AM) Tom_B: 15/5/3/1
(11:46 AM) Tom_B: 30..but only for bigger picture..once or twice a day
(11:46 AM) subtvshow1: buffy do you know of traders international?
(11:47 AM) plevin: subtvshow1 - I just tried to PM you about trader Int'l
(11:47 AM) Buffy_04364: was getting someone who does but you left
(11:47 AM) Buffy_04364: here he is
(11:47 AM) tippet: k lookedlike that was valid 4th touch BUT here is 20ema5
(11:47 AM) plevin: you'r paltalk rejected the PM
(11:47 AM) plevin: you can PM me, ok
(11:47 AM) subtvshow1: oh ok, i'll put you on my buddy list
(11:48 AM) Owlee123: i know the trader international methodology
(11:48 AM) plevin: ok, will try again
(11:48 AM) subtvshow1: ok hold on
(11:49 AM) tippet: also trip top 15min nq?
(11:49 AM) tippet: good short?
(11:50 AM) p_8: gail sale on 5 min
(11:50 AM) p_8: grail
(11:50 AM) TL11: nicely formed ro4 on es - 3 min
(11:50 AM) tippet: y
(11:50 AM) Tom_B: If u were inclined to shrt, which i'm NOT this is vry close to a spot
(11:51 AM) ppusa: LOD
(11:51 AM) tippet: LOD?
(11:51 AM) Tom_B: stp @ 18
(11:51 AM) ppusa: 3 and 6 point PnF need a reversal
(11:52 AM) tippet: target for short?
(11:52 AM) Tom_B: I'm waiting for another shrt , still want to see stps get taken
(11:53 AM) Gokrem: I'd like to contact with people who can offer a software about projectmanagement
(11:53 AM) ppusa: maybe no short
(11:53 AM) Tom_B: Tipp...can't see it as a good play..
(11:53 AM) BrainStorm: where do you have stops figured Tom ?
(11:54 AM) Owlee123: get ms project.
(11:54 AM) Tom_B: currently 17.5 - 18.. I thnk Buffy had same #'s
(11:55 AM) Gokrem: no... no ... a different one, more complex, which can be used with ERP softwares... Thanks.
(11:55 AM) tippet: think no volume on move up this could simply collapse But i'm not in and the ema hit was the short- 4th touch chart posted
(11:55 AM) Tom_B: I hve too many cross currents for a shrt
(11:55 AM) BrainStorm: I figured maybe lower...though could be orders all the way back up though was chop at those levels before
(11:57 AM) Tom_B: Prob with a shrt here is where's trgt ? %, 4 ..lower..or chop ?? Wish I knew
(11:58 AM) Tom_B: 4 5 trgt ?
(11:58 AM) Buffy_04364: 1408.56 bos
(11:58 AM) Buffy_04364: holding so far
(11:58 AM) tomsurf: NQ has retraced all of the bounce up from 2/8. 1405 is gonna be important to hold or fold imo
(11:58 AM) tippet: better not to take if werent comfortable u got the good one -
(11:59 AM) Tom_B: I'm stamping PATIENCE on My hand so I see it when I go to hit Trade button
(11:59 AM) Owlee123: subtv your pm is blocked
(12:00 PM) ppusa: looks good here...so far...still long q's
(12:00 PM) subtvshow1: oh, ok hold on
(12:00 PM) Tom_B: We just hit an imp't time & res block
(12:00 PM) ppusa: SP is doing well
(12:00 PM) Tom_B: Now, imho...let's see wht happens..
(12:01 PM) tippet: really same holds true for 4th touch seems valid it still active But with the 20ema5 right overhead rather a risky shot OK now 4 th touch on 20ema5 resis across nicer?
(12:01 PM) ppusa: sp higher
(12:02 PM) scorp: in the Data Manager for esignal, am I suppose to have "Synchronize Computer Clock" checked?
(12:02 PM) ppusa: SP equal to 1418 nq i think
(12:02 PM) tippet: 12.5 is the line
(12:02 PM) Buffy_04364: there are advantages and disadvantages to it scorp
(12:02 PM) Buffy_04364: I have it checked
(12:02 PM) Tom_B: This is res 4 me too :)
(12:03 PM) scorp: its resetting my clock when i try to update time; it is off by 1.5 minutes
(12:03 PM) tippet: nice inv h&s here on 5min
(12:03 PM) ppusa: previous hour high 16.5
(12:03 PM) SP Steve: Howdy all
(12:03 PM) scorp: i'll deal with it later
(12:03 PM) Tom_B: hi sp
(12:03 PM) tomsurf: well, speaking of the devil....Hi Steve, lol
(12:03 PM) Buffy_04364: esignal data manager is corp?
(12:04 PM) Buffy_04364: hi Steve
(12:04 PM) scorp: i'll have to check
(12:06 PM) Tom_B: good eye on 5m H&S, didn't see it
(12:06 PM) tippet: as p8 said 5min grail sale still active
(12:06 PM) Tom_B: Thi is a spot tobeshrt but i'm not in
(12:07 PM) ppusa: i am looking for a 6 point drop but waiting to see if it comes from higher
(12:08 PM) ppusa: this is to neutral
(12:08 PM) Buffy_04364: mas are flat pp
(12:08 PM) Buffy_04364: up to 1m
(12:09 PM) Tom_B: Bridge Game , anyone ?
(12:09 PM) Tom_B: :)
(12:10 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(12:10 PM) scorp: i guess i should learn bridge; keep me out of bad trades
(12:11 PM) Tom_B: MY goal is to trade less... 1 trde today... ques not taking this one...but don't HAVE TO
(12:11 PM) Buffy_04364: or read a book, do a puzzle, play solitare :-)
(12:11 PM) ppusa: looks like a setup for an arc
(12:12 PM) Buffy_04364: funny tom I am not trading as much today as usual either
(12:12 PM) tippet: 20ema5 winning the batle so far
(12:12 PM) ppusa: my position is i am not about to get stuck short at the LOD so i am flat except for q's
(12:13 PM) Tom_B: This shrt here is vry imp't as time & res came together on my little magic 8 ball but thnk this is da test dujour
(12:13 PM) QSuzy: TomB.....something you said last week really struck me......you are looking at foregone broker's commission as new profit center......I am trying to trade less too.....
(12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: good point
(12:14 PM) Tom_B: Waiting 4 my bkr to call & see if I'm all right :)..tnx Q
(12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: tks for repeating suzy as I wasn't here a lot last week
(12:14 PM) scorp: get well card on the way
(12:14 PM) Tom_B: :)
(12:15 PM) ppusa: foregone broker's commission as new profit center??????
(12:15 PM) ppusa: here is 6 point reversal
(12:15 PM) ppusa: now what?
(12:15 PM) Tom_B: ovr head pp
(12:16 PM) tippet: think better argument could have been made for the short esp seeing as resis right above ... as opposed to taking the 4 th touch however pp right in respect we're potential at bottom and oversold
(12:16 PM) Tom_B: might be making trip to freezer for smelt :)
(12:16 PM) p_8: the grail hit 1st target
(12:16 PM) tippet: oh welllllllllllllll send that fish over here
(12:17 PM) ppusa: that was a relatively easy to see 6 point drop...especially on ES...was more overbought
(12:17 PM) ppusa: but bigger picture imo more important
(12:17 PM) Tom_B: I wud love to know, since we were discussing that setup if anyone here hads a clear setup or indication to take it in a low volume enviroment ?
(12:18 PM) tippet: take ?
(12:18 PM) Tom_B: shrt
(12:19 PM) tippet: see i think the move up on low volume was more important indicator that short may have been valid
(12:19 PM) Tom_B: I don't thnk anyone sold it because of vol, flat ms's, etc...but wud like to hear abt what i'm missing so i can get better
(12:19 PM) Tom_B: ma's
(12:19 PM) ppusa: Tom i saw that situation as ....for 6 points i have to hit the high accurately to get any profit so sometimes i pass
(12:20 PM) Tom_B: Still a tough shrt, imvho because you're depending on new lod otherwise ...
(12:20 PM) ppusa: however i sometimes forget that 6 points could turn into a new low and run a bit
(12:21 PM) tippet: no ?
(12:21 PM) Tom_B: tipp ?
(12:21 PM) ppusa: tom?
(12:21 PM) tippet: was saying no question as in agreed short would be tough and potentially risky
(12:22 PM) ppusa: i was looking at ES and it h
(12:22 PM) ppusa: showed a clearer picture
(12:23 PM) Tom_B: k, ...I assume da scalpers like Buffy et al might play that on thechance it might go...but I'm not a precision trader..I've got a lot of "slop"
(12:23 PM) ppusa: there were a lot of clues there
(12:23 PM) ppusa: another clue was the stochastics on the 5 had reached above 50
(12:23 PM) Tom_B: The shrt was valid setup..the R/R was something else for me anyway
(12:24 PM) ppusa: they had been somewhat oversold until now
(12:26 PM) Buffy_04364: have my reanchor in pyra
(12:26 PM) Tom_B: Were u romping in da woods..or did u fall off ur bike ?
(12:26 PM) Buffy_04364: bar12:18
(12:26 PM) ppusa: think romping
(12:27 PM) Buffy_04364: with indicators so flat can go sideways for a bit
(12:27 PM) ppusa: when the 5 and 15 cross their 20's i am long
(12:28 PM) QSuzy: tx buffy..
(12:28 PM) scorp: right on Buffy!
(12:28 PM) tippet: SOX lod
(12:28 PM) Tom_B: shrt
(12:28 PM) Buffy_04364: time line - this may be the 3rd time it gives us two reanchors
(12:28 PM) Buffy_04364: 3rd time I have seen it
(12:29 PM) ppusa: i am gonna nap...voice me if and when that happens
(12:30 PM) Tom_B: I may need da fish..
(12:30 PM) ppusa: fwiw...ES held
(12:33 PM) Tom_B: Makes me wundr, I didn't shrt up top...but this is worse..
(12:33 PM) Tom_B: shrt 3, stp 7
(12:34 PM) RaisingSun: does google come in room anymore?
(12:34 PM) Buffy_04364: after hours and on weekends sometimes
(12:34 PM) Buffy_04364: don't know name of her room
(12:34 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry
(12:34 PM) Buffy_04364: maybe someone elsedoes
(12:35 PM) RaisingSun: is it on paltalk?
(12:35 PM) tippet: doesnt matter its locked
(12:36 PM) Buffy_04364: hope raz is there making money
(12:37 PM) tippet: no raz is with the PIG
(12:37 PM) p_8: raz is with the profit pig
(12:39 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok
(12:39 PM) Buffy_04364: hope something works for him
(12:39 PM) QSuzy: keep being bumped from PalTalk... :(
(12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: my pal list is doing the jig a lot so most probably missing stuff typed
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(12:41 PM) Tom_B: stp 5
(12:44 PM) Tom_B: I'm going for 29-93ish or so .. hve smelt ready
(12:44 PM) Tom_B: 92
(12:46 PM) Doctor Zaius: UM, excuse the stupid question, but I guess this means google has opened a paysite?
(12:47 PM) Tom_B: This # hre is imp't might hold
(12:47 PM) hanksterr: fwiw 1395.5 is 262 fib on 3m nq
(12:48 PM) Tom_B: tnx hank
(12:48 PM) tippet: no charts here- tom hope your short does well
(12:48 PM) hanksterr: yw
(12:48 PM) Tom_B: tipp...u trd without chrts ?
(12:49 PM) tippet: NO my connection has gone down again on trade computer
(12:49 PM) tippet: watch the fib on daily naz
(12:50 PM) Tom_B: stp B/E
(12:51 PM) Tom_B: out
(12:52 PM) Tom_B: like they say in Real Estate, location, location, location
(12:54 PM) Tom_B: Betwn rock & hrd place hre going to break soon..or retrace
(12:55 PM) Tom_B: TomSurf..didn't u hve a # /
(12:55 PM) Tom_B: ?
(12:55 PM) tomsurf: TomB...ya, it was 1405 to hold or else
(12:55 PM) Tom_B: 1405 - 8 now res
(12:56 PM) Tom_B: tnx
(12:56 PM) tomsurf: the big round numbers always seem to be decision areas though
(12:57 PM) Tom_B: y, have some supp hre but big # still below...
(12:58 PM) Tom_B: Getting new smelt...ready to slap self
(01:00 PM) Tom_B: Hank, there's ur 95
(01:02 PM) hanksterr: lol category now.
(01:04 PM) Tom_B: I'm not ready to say this is done YET
(01:05 PM) Tom_B: It's amazing hw it sits
(01:09 PM) scorp: everyone playing bridge?
(01:10 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL
(01:10 PM) Buffy_04364: back in about 15m
(01:11 PM) ppusa: yawn
(01:11 PM) ppusa: how long have i been gone?
(01:11 PM) QSuzy: buffy..scorp......does 12:58 look like another reanchor on pyra?
(01:11 PM) Tom_B: pp...years
(01:13 PM) scorp: QSuzy, i like it there for a reanchor
(01:13 PM) ppusa: i think 40 minutes
(01:13 PM) scorp: but, what i am noticing here is that all those indicators are pegged to the floor
(01:13 PM) scorp: we reanchored at 12:18
(01:13 PM) QSuzy: rsi positive divergence on last 4min low.....
(01:14 PM) scorp: sorry, i was looking at 13:10
(01:15 PM) Tom_B: if i was shrt, 98 wud be trlng stp
(01:15 PM) scorp: i still think buffy would keep anchor at 12:18
(01:15 PM) tippet: SOX back to the uptrendline off sept low
(01:16 PM) QSuzy: TomB....what is trlng?
(01:16 PM) QSuzy: oh trailing
(01:17 PM) tomsurf: Did pyra get reanchored?
(01:18 PM) scorp: i'm leaving my pyra at 12:18
(01:18 PM) QSuzy: tom....I did mine.....best we wait for our resident expert!!
(01:18 PM) scorp: right QSuzy
(01:18 PM) tomsurf: ;-)
(01:18 PM) scorp: that is why i haven't changed it
(01:18 PM) Laura-28: ok where is res on es so i can sell
(01:21 PM) ppusa: yeehaw
(01:21 PM) ppusa: down all day and you want to sell
(01:23 PM) ppusa: 1091
(01:24 PM) Laura-28: thanks
(01:25 PM) all -: hankster nice call on the 95 area
(01:26 PM) hanksterr: thx all
(01:26 PM) ppusa: Laura u no thank if goes through that
(01:26 PM) Laura-28: i am still flat
(01:26 PM) Laura-28: thanks for info lol
(01:27 PM) ppusa: good 'cos es barely took out it's low
(01:27 PM) Laura-28: do u think we will go lower
(01:27 PM) ppusa: no
(01:28 PM) ppusa: but i haven't got a buy signal yet
(01:28 PM) Laura-28: ok thanks
(01:28 PM) ppusa: i haven't seen my nq point and figure charts this overextended in a long time if at all
(01:29 PM) ppusa: i'm just thankful that this room taught me to watch the trend more than the PnF
(01:29 PM) ppusa: nq is at the 20 on the 5
(01:29 PM) Laura-28: good infor in here
(01:30 PM) Laura-28: u guys dont use the mic during market hours
(01:30 PM) ppusa: right someone decided to distracting... who are you?
(01:31 PM) tomatlin: does any know the best place to open commidity accout
(01:32 PM) Laura-28: pp--i am new here
(01:32 PM) Buffy_04364: 15:58 is an iffy reanchor just like 12:18
(01:32 PM) Buffy_04364: rsi just tagged it didn't go below unless you guys are showing something different
(01:32 PM) SP Steve: Me 2
(01:33 PM) ppusa: welcome Laura
(01:33 PM) tomatlin: Hi all
(01:33 PM) Laura-28: thanks pp
(01:33 PM) Buffy_04364: hi
(01:33 PM) scorp: my rsi is not showing below at 12:58
(01:34 PM) all -: hi tomatlin
(01:34 PM) tomatlin: HI Buffy
(01:34 PM) tomatlin: Hi all
(01:34 PM) ppusa: SP cork it, i don't flirt with the guys
(01:34 PM) scorp: 12:18 is a better iffy reanchor
(01:34 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is
(01:34 PM) Buffy_04364: imo
(01:35 PM) tomatlin: buffy
(01:35 PM) tomatlin: may iask ? to you
(01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: yes
(01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: sure
(01:36 PM) tomatlin: is anyone in here trade commodities
(01:36 PM) Buffy_04364: how about using med and bold
(01:36 PM) Buffy_04364: no just the futures
(01:36 PM) tomatlin: that is a nice person
(01:36 PM) Buffy_04364: eminis
(01:36 PM) QSuzy: at 12:18 my asi is above sto%D ..... but as we know scale on asi can jump around...
(01:36 PM) Buffy_04364: back to trapped between 50 and 200ema on 30T 55T and 1m
(01:36 PM) tomatlin: arn't they all futures
(01:36 PM) tomatlin: except for options
(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: med text please tomatlin
(01:37 PM) Laura-28: buffy do u trade both es and nq
(01:37 PM) tomatlin: event that is a form of a futrues
(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: usually just the nq
(01:37 PM) tomatlin: ok
(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: 99% of the time
(01:37 PM) tomatlin: sorry
(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: used to do stocks in nq so know nq better
(01:37 PM) tomatlin: med text
(01:37 PM) tomatlin: is that better
(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone LL
(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: ?
(01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: yes tks
(01:37 PM) tippet: anyone long?
(01:38 PM) tomatlin: where do recommend opening account for futures
(01:38 PM) lionsss: l 01
(01:38 PM) Buffy_04364: yes looking for scalp
(01:38 PM) Buffy_04364: mine is at www.pfgbest.com
(01:38 PM) Buffy_04364: others use IB
(01:38 PM) Buffy_04364: and other brokers
(01:38 PM) tomsurf: was LL, got sidetracked :-(
(01:38 PM) tomatlin: i see
(01:39 PM) tomatlin: you like there rates buffy
(01:39 PM) tomatlin: and excutions
(01:39 PM) Buffy_04364: maybe it won't work out tom
(01:39 PM) ppusa: 3 point PnF
(01:39 PM) Buffy_04364: they answer the phone
(01:39 PM) Buffy_04364: not the cheapest
(01:39 PM) Buffy_04364: executions fine
(01:39 PM) Tom_B: Coming up t res
(01:40 PM) tippet: dtrenline poke
(01:40 PM) Buffy_04364: pp is it going to take out hourly high?
(01:40 PM) Buffy_04364: above 200ema on 30T
(01:40 PM) ppusa: 3 point says pb first???????
(01:41 PM) Buffy_04364: k
(01:41 PM) ppusa: but as oversold as this is i don't know how much faith i would put in the 3 point
(01:41 PM) ppusa: looks overbought right here though
(01:41 PM) ppusa: ma's
(01:41 PM) tomatlin: what the best way to utilize this room buffy
(01:41 PM) Buffy_04364: bline over 20 in 3 fs
(01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: need toget more charts up tonight
(01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: people use it differently
(01:42 PM) tomatlin: yes
(01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: some are lurkers and learning
(01:42 PM) tomatlin: i understand
(01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: I like being able to get others opinions on a trade cause I miss things
(01:43 PM) Buffy_04364: when switching back from doing other stuff
(01:43 PM) Buffy_04364: everyones comments useful
(01:43 PM) Buffy_04364: as I hope mine are
(01:43 PM) ppusa: anyone want to go short here for 1 more new low?
(01:43 PM) tomatlin: cool buffy
(01:43 PM) Tom_B: 1412 res
(01:43 PM) Buffy_04364: no
(01:44 PM) tomatlin: that was very helpful
(01:44 PM) Tom_B: sry 1404
(01:44 PM) Buffy_04364: might be asking for the fish
(01:44 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(01:45 PM) Tom_B: shrt
(01:45 PM) ppusa: u long?
(01:46 PM) Tom_B: sld 1401
(01:46 PM) Buffy_04364: no pp I took a 1.5 loss
(01:46 PM) ppusa: where did you buy?
(01:46 PM) tkay_1: very interesting day today
(01:46 PM) tkay_1: nice orderly swing waves
(01:47 PM) tkay_1: none of the ugly flatlining chop we've seen last week
(01:47 PM) tkay_1: hrm
(01:47 PM) lionsss: out 99-2
(01:47 PM) ppusa: PnF said hit here...(3 point reversal) now either way
(01:48 PM) tomatlin: is anyone using tools from Larry williams
(01:48 PM) Buffy_04364: 1401.5 stop below 50 ema
(01:48 PM) lionsss: still 1 long s/l 98
(01:48 PM) Buffy_04364: nice lionsss
(01:49 PM) Buffy_04364: that is about when I got back and shouldn't of just traded
(01:49 PM) ppusa: Buffy had to retrace to 99 to clean out longs
(01:49 PM) Buffy_04364: still LL
(01:49 PM) Buffy_04364: yep pp
(01:49 PM) Buffy_04364: should of waited
(01:50 PM) Buffy_04364: it is that patience thing I am always working on
(01:50 PM) lionsss: what is LL?
(01:50 PM) scorp: 2M SMAX, if interested, i have short from 1402
(01:50 PM) Buffy_04364: oh oh lower high
(01:50 PM) Buffy_04364: yep
(01:50 PM) Buffy_04364: see in
(01:50 PM) tomsurf: looking long
(01:50 PM) Buffy_04364: and possible umbrella on 1M
(01:50 PM) lionsss: thanks
(01:50 PM) Buffy_04364: going to have to let price decide this one
(01:50 PM) ppusa: yes Buffy...every now and then i catch you doing a nono
(01:51 PM) QSuzy: tomatlin......I have wanted to start looking at LarryWms acc/dist....it's not an indicator in Ensign tho....
(01:51 PM) Buffy_04364: you know if we just traded the NR 4M ib we souldn't do too bad I don't think
(01:51 PM) scorp: i have mixed signals
(01:51 PM) ppusa: you get suckered on ib's at high levels
(01:51 PM) ppusa: you did Friday
(01:52 PM) Buffy_04364: it is Bill Williams Howard did the template for
(01:52 PM) ppusa: until price crosses the 20 on 5 and 15 no long positions other than scalps
(01:52 PM) QSuzy: buffy....I think BillWms is someone else
(01:52 PM) Buffy_04364: I think that is what I said I was looking for pp
(01:52 PM) Buffy_04364: me too
(01:52 PM) ppusa: what is that the 10th time i said that today
(01:52 PM) Buffy_04364: but had to check
(01:52 PM) scorp: go take a nap
(01:53 PM) ppusa: okay....wake me
(01:53 PM) Buffy_04364: we will have to talk about larry later and see if beta will handle
(01:53 PM) Tom_B: hldng shrt 01.. stp 7
(01:54 PM) QSuzy: great buffy....
(01:54 PM) tippet: ? is will 15mn bear flag be respected
(01:54 PM) Buffy_04364: are we ever going to get away from these emas?
(01:54 PM) tomatlin: what template you looking at Buufy
(01:54 PM) Buffy_04364: ?
(01:55 PM) Buffy_04364: template with bline and smax on it along with 4m pyra
(01:55 PM) tomatlin: ok
(01:55 PM) Buffy_04364: tagged bos
(01:55 PM) Buffy_04364: don't know about holding
(01:55 PM) scorp: 2M SMAX up 6points on that short
(01:55 PM) scorp: 5points
(01:55 PM) Buffy_04364: nice scorp
(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: should pay more attention to smax
(01:56 PM) scorp: thanks but i didnt trade it
(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: jimmer did say he liked the 2M
(01:56 PM) scorp: when i have have conflicting signals, SMAX usually wins
(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: trinq just jumped
(01:57 PM) ppusa: 3 point PnF wins
(01:57 PM) ppusa: stochastics on 5 confirmed
(01:57 PM) ppusa: they got over 50 again
(01:57 PM) Buffy_04364: was that the shake out we need?
(01:58 PM) scorp: bline stochs tell the story also on the 1M
(01:58 PM) Tom_B: Lookng for 92-93
(01:58 PM) Buffy_04364: or one more down
(01:58 PM) ppusa: i think they might go for another new low
(01:58 PM) Buffy_04364: yes the umbrella scorp
(01:58 PM) Buffy_04364: bline bounce though cause short term touched
(01:58 PM) ppusa: but only by a bit
(01:59 PM) QSuzy: pp....what stoch settings do you use on 5min?.....9,3,3 ?
(01:59 PM) ppusa: i told Laura no new low
(01:59 PM) ppusa: yes q
(01:59 PM) scorp: 2:00est; sometimes we get at move here
(01:59 PM) QSuzy: tx
(01:59 PM) ppusa: working well today
(01:59 PM) ppusa: i have remembered to look over there a few times
(02:00 PM) Laura-28: over where
(02:01 PM) ppusa: another monitor
(02:02 PM) Buffy_04364: is this a flag of start of COT
(02:04 PM) ppusa: charts are shaping up now
(02:05 PM) ppusa: more like a LOD
(02:05 PM) all -: 15 min looks to be bottoming after 3 swings down
(02:05 PM) Tom_B: 90 -93 trgt
(02:05 PM) ppusa: i like what i see
(02:05 PM) ppusa: i like this pattern
(02:06 PM) scorp: LL
(02:06 PM) tkay_1: howard did a template for bill williams?
(02:07 PM) ppusa: before it was all down...now lower part of bb all charts
(02:07 PM) Tom_B: out 97
(02:08 PM) ppusa: i like l like
(02:08 PM) Buffy_04364: yes in ensign folder
(02:08 PM) ppusa: it's got the look
(02:09 PM) Tom_B: That was pretty darn close to my trgt
(02:09 PM) ppusa: resis 1400 50 bar ma
(02:09 PM) Tom_B: RO4 15m
(02:09 PM) tomatlin: Howard did ??? who is he
(02:09 PM) Tom_B: Tipp ?
(02:09 PM) ppusa: funny how all of a sudden the charts get this look and you just know
(02:09 PM) QSuzy: buffy.....I think it's only available for pay (BillWms).....right?
(02:09 PM) Buffy_04364: yes there was great conversation that night
(02:10 PM) ppusa: nothing definate yet
(02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: someone was reading from the book
(02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: alligators were mentioned
(02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: I will check old version - should still have it from that night
(02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: after market
(02:10 PM) tkay_1: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/Ensign/BillWilliams
(02:11 PM) tkay_1: guessss what happens when u click on that
(02:11 PM) Buffy_04364: W bottom?
(02:11 PM) scorp: who the heck is Bill Williams?
(02:11 PM) tkay_1: it gives u some weird error
(02:11 PM) tomatlin: thats the one template i was think of using Larry Williams
(02:11 PM) ppusa: ES has had a very nice bounce but everything stuck as resis
(02:12 PM) Buffy_04364: whoops that my fault no index in folder
(02:12 PM) Buffy_04364: hang on will fix
(02:13 PM) ppusa: failure
(02:13 PM) scorp: ES nicer move than NQ
(02:13 PM) ppusa: much
(02:13 PM) Tom_B: This the time & price window for a EOW:3 or EOW:5:3, still hve not hit trgts by a few pts but not necc
(02:13 PM) scorp: NQ starting to annoy me
(02:14 PM) scorp: i took the NQ long for 1.5 points; but i could have gotten that or better with ES
(02:14 PM) Jr_Steggy: i am doing a Prop Trader / J-trader demo Thur 3:45 central time room simpleas 123 room you all invited
(02:14 PM) ppusa: they gonna bury it with a short term 1-2-3
(02:14 PM) Buffy_04364: ok index there but nothing in folder - confused
(02:15 PM) tippet: nq trin 3.55
(02:15 PM) ppusa: well if that was a 1-2...we need a 3-4-5
(02:15 PM) tippet: 3.78
(02:16 PM) tippet: 3.82
(02:18 PM) Tom_B: lng 95.5
(02:19 PM) sb17: question about pyra...in using it, do you select a H or L as a beginning point?
(02:19 PM) QSuzy: finally some macd pos div on 7min.....
(02:19 PM) Laura-28: TOM r u long the es
(02:20 PM) Tom_B: no
(02:20 PM) Tom_B: VRY RISKY LNG HRE
(02:20 PM) Laura-28: i agree i think we going to take the lows out
(02:20 PM) ppusa: no kidding?
(02:21 PM) Tom_B: Just using my #'s 4 pt risk
(02:21 PM) scorp: yes, sb - you need to reanchor pyra
(02:21 PM) tomatlin: your right about that TF_3 about that chart
(02:21 PM) Laura-28: ok gotcha tom
(02:21 PM) ppusa: 15 min chart looks decent
(02:22 PM) scorp: buffy?
(02:22 PM) ppusa: keeps stalling at the 50 bar ma on the 1 minute
(02:22 PM) scorp: is this a reanchor here at 14:18?
(02:23 PM) scorp: that is what i see
(02:24 PM) Tom_B: Better trde to wait 4 retrace hre but hit my #'s so I'll see
(02:27 PM) Buffy_04364: an example
(02:27 PM) tippet: trinq hitting hod?
(02:27 PM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/Other_Folders/buffy/4M%20pyra%20reposition3.gif
(02:28 PM) scorp: buffy, no reanchor at 14:18?
(02:28 PM) tkay_1: hm still nothing in williams folder
(02:28 PM) Buffy_04364: it is another iffy one because %D going lower now
(02:28 PM) Buffy_04364: no there isn't tkay
(02:28 PM) Buffy_04364: and I don't know where it is
(02:29 PM) Buffy_04364: should be there
(02:29 PM) Buffy_04364: will ask Dave
(02:29 PM) Tom_B: out -4
(02:29 PM) scorp: i was LL so I missed the short
(02:29 PM) dave_b_quik: is bill williams larry williams' little brother?
(02:30 PM) tkay_1: haha
(02:30 PM) tkay_1: no
(02:30 PM) tkay_1: they are not related
(02:30 PM) tkay_1: except for the fact both are "gurus"
(02:30 PM) Buffy_04364: dave I though all of howards stuff was in the williams folder but nothing there
(02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: from the night he did the template when in here and someone reading the book to him
(02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: he even made a program change to be able to do it
(02:31 PM) QSuzy: tickq actually went positive there for a couple minutes ......
(02:32 PM) Tom_B: Still in Zone here
(02:34 PM) dave_b_quik: hmm, i never got to see it
(02:34 PM) Tom_B: lng 93.5
(02:34 PM) dave_b_quik: i did a backup of the whole site a few days ago, lemee see if it's there
(02:34 PM) Buffy_04364: will have to search for it and if I have the template on old version
(02:35 PM) BrainStorm: getting close to 1 standard deviation below the down trend on the daily would expect a retrace over the next couple of days
(02:35 PM) dave_b_quik: buffy, in the 2/17 backup the folder was empty too
(02:36 PM) ppusa: i have been looking for a flat bottom on the daily but if this is a shelf then it's a no buy for days
(02:36 PM) ppusa: RO4
(02:37 PM) ppusa: by the way i think that is the 3-4-5 i mentioned
(02:37 PM) dave_b_quik: empty in the 1/19 backup too
(02:37 PM) ppusa: or the 3?????
(02:38 PM) ppusa: who wants to be first long?
(02:39 PM) FrankT: volume picking up
(02:39 PM) tomsurf: pp- TomB is
(02:39 PM) BrainStorm: most corrections have been 2-4 days
(02:39 PM) ppusa: again?
(02:39 PM) ppusa: TommyB
(02:39 PM) Tom_B: y :(
(02:39 PM) Buffy_04364: tks Dave
(02:40 PM) qatwo: target on ro4 is 1399.50
(02:40 PM) tomsurf: TomB, that could be a good entry
(02:40 PM) Tom_B: >XXXX:>
(02:40 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm
(02:40 PM) qatwo: w2 hi
(02:40 PM) Buffy_04364: tks a lot Dave will see what I can do tonight to get the stuff backin there
(02:41 PM) all -: what is ro4?
(02:41 PM) Tom_B: can't say this is any good yet
(02:41 PM) tomsurf: all- rule of 4
(02:41 PM) all -: thx
(02:41 PM) dave_b_quik: thanks, buffy, hope you find it
(02:41 PM) qatwo: could argue for longer one to 1412
(02:42 PM) ppusa: >XXXX;>
(02:42 PM) ppusa: i am learning all aabout drawing fish
(02:42 PM) Buffy_04364: he did it last fall
(02:42 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL pp
(02:43 PM) Tom_B: If this is any good 1404 -15
(02:43 PM) ppusa: placed a buy order but it didn't go
(02:43 PM) Tom_B: ttmar
(02:43 PM) Buffy_04364: that is what it has been almost all day isn't it tom :-(
(02:44 PM) tippet: 144t shows a nice falling wedge got poke
(02:44 PM) Tom_B: Yea, they take my $ & run :)
(02:44 PM) p_8: >xxxXX:}O>
(02:44 PM) tippet: back in
(02:44 PM) Buffy_04364: you are making me laugh tom
(02:44 PM) Buffy_04364: they took mine a couple oftime too
(02:45 PM) Buffy_04364: tkay you are getting lots of flags today!
(02:45 PM) Tom_B: :)
(02:45 PM) tkay_1: hehe yes
(02:45 PM) Tom_B: moment of truth for this LOD
(02:45 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(02:46 PM) ppusa: ))>000>
(02:46 PM) tomatlin: wow i looked dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart
(02:46 PM) tomatlin: this very fine
(02:46 PM) BrainStorm: hmmm smalll hole in data on eSignal
(02:47 PM) tomsurf: nyse trin at 2.18 not very positive
(02:47 PM) Tom_B: RO4 15m
(02:47 PM) tomsurf: tomatlin- yes, lots of good info. there
(02:48 PM) Tom_B: I assume we need to clr high of prev bar to be sure ??
(02:48 PM) Tom_B: 15m
(02:48 PM) Tom_B: tipp or anyone ?
(02:48 PM) tippet: looking at it as well
(02:48 PM) tomatlin: yes i dont think anyone spoke up about dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart except for tf_3 mentioning the williams chart didn't work
(02:49 PM) Buffy_04364: it should be mentioned still in the stuff you read when coming into room
(02:49 PM) tomsurf: toma- it's common knowledge
(02:49 PM) Buffy_04364: I hope anyway
(02:49 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(02:50 PM) tomatlin: i am trying to you his indicaters not williams % r which i assume is the chart that isn't working
(02:50 PM) tomatlin: thanks buffy i must missed it
(02:50 PM) QSuzy: tickq still struggling to go positive....mvg avgs on 3min going flat
(02:50 PM) Buffy_04364: it was read right out of bill williams book and howard did it
(02:50 PM) farid3121: hiiiii
(02:50 PM) Buffy_04364: that is about all I know
(02:50 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL
(02:50 PM) tomatlin: oops must have missed it
(02:50 PM) tomatlin: LOL
(02:50 PM) farid3121: hii
(02:51 PM) tomatlin: cool
(02:51 PM) Buffy_04364: will check old ensign to see if I have it
(02:51 PM) Buffy_04364: the template
(02:51 PM) tippet: ok rock and roll
(02:51 PM) QSuzy: buffy....sometime back I tried to access that folder and got a message like "you are not authorized....".....therefore I assumed it was something for pay.....
(02:51 PM) tomatlin: i am acutally olloking the other indicaters which Williams tlaks about in his course
(02:52 PM) Buffy_04364: no there used to be stuff there I am sure or I wouldn't of made the folder
(02:52 PM) Tom_B: Shooting for 1404...ttmar
(02:52 PM) Buffy_04364: just have to figure out where it went
(02:52 PM) Buffy_04364: tagging 200ema on 55T and 50 on 3m tmar
(02:52 PM) ppusa: HEY i can't trade Tom's position with all the chatter
(02:52 PM) tippet: lil upper channel line here
(02:52 PM) tomatlin: i am acutally looking the other indicaters which Williams talks about in his course
(02:52 PM) Tom_B: u fading me pp ?
(02:53 PM) tomatlin: one of the indicters he talks about is
(02:53 PM) tomatlin: follwoing the comercials
(02:53 PM) Buffy_04364: wait until market closes can't check anything now
(02:53 PM) tomatlin: no problem
(02:53 PM) Buffy_04364: please
(02:53 PM) Buffy_04364: tks
(02:53 PM) tomatlin: wasn't expecting fix now
(02:54 PM) qatwo: 15m20 ~1404
(02:54 PM) tomatlin: very easy goign about that stuff
(02:54 PM) Buffy_04364: GSD candle on 1M
(02:54 PM) tippet: 200ema1 01
(02:54 PM) Tom_B: IF I had 2 lot I'd cash 1 at 3-4 & trail on other for 12-15
(02:54 PM) BrainStorm: grr very bad took a long on the poke up just cause volume was rising fast closed it at a small profit and gone back to hand sitting
(02:55 PM) ppusa: 3 point PnF says small pb??
(02:55 PM) Tom_B: Brain: I get royalties on GRRR's :)
(02:55 PM) ppusa: 98
(02:55 PM) BrainStorm: wasnt a bad play but was anoyed cuase not thought through properly
(02:55 PM) tippet: 20ema5 support ?
(02:55 PM) QSuzy: pp....stochs on 5min stalling a bit at 50%
(02:56 PM) ppusa: yes as nq is approaching the 20 on the 15 it is overbot
(02:56 PM) Buffy_04364: 1397.50 bos
(02:56 PM) ppusa: needs to come up through the 20 on 5 and 15 somewhat together for best signal
(02:57 PM) BrainStorm: last couple of times today tipet it sorta moved through but dropped back after a couple of bars though this was a good volume push up through
(02:57 PM) ppusa: based on PnF i have to think this may be an exception
(02:58 PM) QSuzy: tickq hod at 147
(02:58 PM) ppusa: that reversed the 10 tick
(02:58 PM) Buffy_04364: 2B
(02:58 PM) tippet: 40ema 5 and trendlne off 14th hit
(03:00 PM) ppusa: obot already?
(03:00 PM) ppusa: the good news is at least there is some life to it
(03:00 PM) Tom_B: out
(03:00 PM) Tom_B: 98
(03:00 PM) Tom_B: grrr
(03:00 PM) Buffy_04364: yes there is but still not clear of emas :-(
(03:01 PM) Buffy_04364: bouncing on them on 30T
(03:01 PM) tippet: if it makes it there this will be first kiss of 20ema15
(03:01 PM) Buffy_04364: trapped on 55T
(03:01 PM) Buffy_04364: and 1M
(03:01 PM) Buffy_04364: hitting 50ema on 3M
(03:01 PM) Tom_B: +4.5
(03:03 PM) Tom_B: It's gonna come out of hre
(03:03 PM) ppusa: PnF would get a decent buy signal only above last major swing not those little RO4 humps
(03:03 PM) ppusa: good i will be napping
(03:04 PM) ppusa: close on low?
(03:04 PM) BrainStorm: sideways out maybe
(03:04 PM) Tom_B: I'm looking 4 a shrt set up to scalp
(03:05 PM) Tom_B: may chop hre
(03:05 PM) Buffy_04364: right below this shelf?
(03:06 PM) tomsurf: TomB- just chop here....has felt like chop all day, lol
(03:07 PM) Buffy_04364: sure has tom
(03:07 PM) Tom_B: :) Tom...It's being compressed & the lng side is losing
(03:07 PM) scorp: seems like chop for days
(03:07 PM) SP Steve: everything happens early, then it's over
(03:07 PM) SP Steve: But it sure looks bad
(03:08 PM) Tom_B: My prob now is my outside trgt is 80ish
(03:08 PM) tomsurf: yes, looks sick but will no t go anywhere yet ;-)
(03:08 PM) alan123: low volume again today
(03:08 PM) Laura-28: lol
(03:09 PM) Tom_B: On 15m RO4, it has just PBK to TLine
(03:09 PM) Buffy_04364: another flag?
(03:09 PM) scorp: long weekend; i think many are expecting low volume all week
(03:09 PM) Buffy_04364: tks tom
(03:09 PM) Buffy_04364: that would not be nice
(03:09 PM) Buffy_04364: a whole week of this
(03:10 PM) Tom_B: If this goes prob 8 pt brk or so.. BUffy ?
(03:11 PM) Buffy_04364: 1390 bos
(03:11 PM) Buffy_04364: 1382.72 nxt
(03:11 PM) Tom_B: after 90 ?
(03:11 PM) Tom_B: tnx
(03:12 PM) BrainStorm: if you draw a bollinger or linear regression with sd channel on a daily we are oversold within the down trend wouldnt be surprised by a bit of pull back for a day or two
(03:14 PM) Tom_B: NOT that it matters to the mkt but we're pretty much whre we need to be maybe get to 82 maybe not then tomorrow looking to the lng side if the #'s stay together
(03:15 PM) BrainStorm: hehe may reach it right now tom
(03:15 PM) Tom_B: Anybody in a hurry to shrt hre ?
(03:15 PM) Tom_B: OR keep going >xx:>
(03:15 PM) BrainStorm: heavy (within context of last few days) selling
(03:16 PM) Buffy_04364: diag caught it so far
(03:17 PM) BrainStorm: where do you get the 82 level from tom ?
Tom_B: Hit Daily 200EMA
Tom_B: or just abt on top of it
(03:19 PM) BrainStorm: doh seem to have deleted that from my daily chart :-\
(03:19 PM) Tom_B: i'm voting for Buffy's 82
(03:21 PM) Tom_B: 75 -6 can happen too
(03:22 PM) Tom_B: I'm done...prob
(03:22 PM) tomsurf: trin 2.72
(03:23 PM) Buffy_04364: looks like good reanchortooatthispoint
(03:23 PM) Buffy_04364: data stop?
(03:23 PM) Tom_B: ok hre
(03:23 PM) Buffy_04364: just no volume I guess
(03:23 PM) Buffy_04364: googles arc on 55T but not as reliable as longer tf IMO
(03:24 PM) Buffy_04364: not over yet?
(03:24 PM) Buffy_04364: tks tom
(03:25 PM) Tom_B: istead of getting long, i shd hve focused on reentering a shrt when i got out of my lng at 98. TRND WAS/IS DWN
(03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: 3.91 for trinq
(03:26 PM) Tom_B: SMELT SLAP :)
(03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: 4.26 trinq
(03:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 4.31
(03:27 PM) Buffy_04364: wow HOD
(03:27 PM) Tom_B: tnx Buffy
(03:27 PM) Tom_B: yikes
(03:28 PM) p_8: nasdaq down volume is 10x up volume
(03:28 PM) Tom_B: *@ ish is the bottom end of my supp band, after that ...?
(03:28 PM) Buffy_04364: tks
(03:28 PM) Tom_B: 82
(03:29 PM) Tom_B: Since we're into fish...SMELLS like CAPITULATION TYPE STUFF
(03:29 PM) Buffy_04364: valid reanchor
(03:30 PM) QSuzy: 15:30?
(03:30 PM) tkay_1: capitulation will be below 30 in qqq
(03:30 PM) tkay_1: methinks
(03:33 PM) BrainStorm: wonder if we'll get a bit of shor covering last part of the day
(03:33 PM) Buffy_04364: lots of down bars on hourly no ups today
(03:34 PM) Buffy_04364: there is the reanchor
(03:34 PM) Buffy_04364: time line next bar
(03:35 PM) BrainStorm: 82.50 bah off by a tick buffy
(03:35 PM) Tom_B: Did some recalc 80-81 :)
(03:35 PM) ppusa: yawn
(03:35 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL
(03:36 PM) Tom_B: Buffy we'd be good at horseshoes :)
(03:36 PM) Buffy_04364: the trinq didn't use to be so full of holes with data
(03:36 PM) ppusa: oh did somebody say lower
(03:36 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL yep
(03:36 PM) ppusa: did somebody say fall off the shelf?
(03:36 PM) BrainStorm: sitting right on the 200 day ema as pointed out before
(03:36 PM) Buffy_04364: I don't think so pp
(03:36 PM) Buffy_04364: oh you think lower?
(03:36 PM) ppusa: i did
(03:37 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm should retrace a bit first
(03:37 PM) Buffy_04364: don't you think
(03:37 PM) tomsurf: I'd like to have my entry at 1397 back that I didn't take, lol :-(
(03:37 PM) Tom_B: I thought u said fall out of the chair
(03:37 PM) BrainStorm: strong probability of retrace
(03:37 PM) Tom_B: Buffy gets the special LOD prize
(03:38 PM) Buffy_04364: bar 15:34 will be the reanchor
(03:38 PM) Tom_B: An all expense paid round turn trade
(03:38 PM) Buffy_04364: no pyra does
(03:38 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL
(03:38 PM) Buffy_04364: reanchoring
(03:39 PM) scorp: i did much better papertrading today, than live trading
(03:39 PM) Buffy_04364: this beta is very very stable
(03:39 PM) tomsurf: good to hear Buffy
(03:40 PM) Tom_B: 3 pt Fib Ext tool yet ?
(03:40 PM) ppusa: the only good thing i can say about my trading today is that inspite of major major oversold...i never got dupped into going long other than a scalp...Thank you room!
(03:40 PM) Buffy_04364: it is done with elliot waves I believe tom
(03:40 PM) Buffy_04364: did you read the email on how to do it with what you have?
(03:40 PM) Tom_B: k, tnx
(03:41 PM) Tom_B: y, slow here, cudn't get it to wrk
(03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-19/Buffy-beta_hills_1M16.gif
(03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: that is example of it
(03:41 PM) Tom_B: tnx
(03:41 PM) Tom_B: 82 on da button
(03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: uses the 3 pts on white lines
(03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: you got a ringer - only a leaner here
(03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL
(03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: if this doesn't hold ....
(03:43 PM) BrainStorm: well very interesting day
(03:43 PM) Buffy_04364: then pp will sure be right but really think it should retrace but then the market doesn't care what I think
(03:43 PM) Tom_B: y, BOMBS away
(03:44 PM) ppusa: daily had flag
(03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: 1382.48 - tos hope closes above it
(03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: thenwill still be respecting it
(03:46 PM) tomsurf: trin now 3.31 or just was
(03:46 PM) Buffy_04364: it did and then the next bar goes right below it hmm
(03:46 PM) tomsurf: nyse that is
(03:46 PM) Buffy_04364: 4.27 here on trinq
(03:46 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok
(03:47 PM) Buffy_04364: rsi divergence
(03:47 PM) Buffy_04364: so far
(03:48 PM) tomsurf: I just pay attention to the NYSE trin cause I think it controls the market more than the NQ...just my theory though.
(03:48 PM) Tom_B: I thnk Buff my Bot #'s hve just been hit HOPE it stops
(03:48 PM) Buffy_04364: I find it depends on if they are together or off on their own
(03:48 PM) Buffy_04364: the nq and es
(03:49 PM) tomsurf: Buffy- that is true
(03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: still respecting bos tom
(03:49 PM) Tom_B: I can't get no respect
(03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: bars need to close above 1385.48
(03:50 PM) Tom_B: IT so neat hw our #'s match up
(03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: oh oh last one didn't
(03:50 PM) tomsurf: dog may still be running Tom
(03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: and it is an inside bar
(03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: this can go either way
(03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: yes brach and I marveled at it too way back
(03:51 PM) Tom_B: no reason to thnk it's ovr xcept for these #'s & the mkt cud care less
(03:51 PM) ppusa: need 6 point reversal
(03:51 PM) Buffy_04364: convinced me pyra has enough fib in it to quite hounding howard and just wait until he did update fibs
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: which he did a good job of with better coming in beta
(03:52 PM) Tom_B: Buying hre wud require psychiatric tratment..prob spot for a call or something
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: long off ib
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: for a scalp
(03:52 PM) BrainStorm: gut wants to buy Tom.....bad gut
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: rsi divergence made medo it
(03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL
(03:52 PM) tomsurf: LOL
(03:53 PM) Tom_B: lol
(03:53 PM) BrainStorm: bit of short covering I guess will be an interesting session tommorow
(03:53 PM) tomsurf: may have covering shorts to help you Buffy
(03:53 PM) Tom_B: Based on hldnh 81 & all I'd buy an option or qqq or somethig
(03:53 PM) ppusa: resis here
(03:53 PM) ppusa: 50 bar ma
(03:54 PM) ppusa: i mon
(03:54 PM) ppusa: min
(03:54 PM) Tom_B: Buffy, u lng ?
(03:54 PM) Buffy_04364: yes
(03:54 PM) Tom_B: gosh
(03:54 PM) ppusa: 6 point reversed
(03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: tmar
(03:55 PM) Tom_B: :)
(03:55 PM) all -: I went long too..I'll be making that app't after hours for treatment
(03:55 PM) ppusa: t=take or took
(03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: +2.5
(03:55 PM) Tom_B: good Buff
(03:55 PM) ppusa: oh baby
(03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: it shouldn't be a v bottom but watching
(03:55 PM) Tom_B: pp...r u lng ?
(03:55 PM) ppusa: heck no
(03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: tagged 200 on 30T
(03:56 PM) Buffy_04364: back into the mas
(03:56 PM) ppusa: q's i am
(03:56 PM) Buffy_04364: still LL
(03:56 PM) Tom_B: Here's where i wud be...with ur $ :)
(03:56 PM) Buffy_04364: but price going to have to prove it
(03:56 PM) ppusa: i haven't had a good buy signal yet
(03:57 PM) Tom_B: IT held the imp't # as good a spot as any, imho..
(03:57 PM) Tom_B: not for Fut but q's
(03:57 PM) all -: gimme 88
(03:57 PM) biglargra: Can anyone help me with a charting issue in Ensign....I'm getting weird bars and the chart also stopped at 3:15 est
(03:57 PM) ppusa: short
(03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: check your market hours and time zone
(03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: setup - computer
(03:58 PM) biglargra: Hi Buffy....did that
(03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: then setup - market hourse
(03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm
(03:58 PM) biglargra: 15:15 Central Time
(03:58 PM) biglargra: right?
(03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: 3:58 here EST
(03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: 15:58
(03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: so you should be 14:58?
(03:59 PM) biglargra: No, I mean the close under market hours
(03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: oh yes
(03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry
(03:59 PM) biglargra: I forgive you ;)
(03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: what does it say under connection?
(04:00 PM) biglargra: Buffy, ok to pm you?
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364: is it running ok
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364: sure
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364: bs filled
(04:00 PM) alan123: 358 now?
(04:00 PM) all -: thk u 88...and then some
(04:00 PM) alan123: i want to set my clcok
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364: 1393.58 tos
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364: tmar
(04:02 PM) all -: still short ppusa?
(04:04 PM) Tom_B: 96 ish hre
(04:05 PM) Tom_B: like ur # btr
(04:05 PM) Tom_B: Buffy
(04:06 PM) Tom_B: Looks like we might be finishing w:3 hre...if so W:4 correction tomorrow...like the lng side
(04:06 PM) Buffy_04364: that would be nice
(04:06 PM) Buffy_04364: up days easier
(04:07 PM) Tom_B: W:4's vry choppy If we gap up tomorrow then it will be catch the falling knife.. LOL