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raz_62: i placed this on the chart at 1517
raz_62: at the 37% level
jimmer49: gm all
raz_62: gm
raz_62: pp you here
ppusa: yes
ppusa: going down on open
raz_62: what do you think of the chart?
ppusa: nice colors
raz_62: he he
tippet: globex low is way down
there
Tom_B: anyone sell 54 area ?
tomsurf: tippet- sure is
ppusa: recent bounce high was hit 50
bar ma so i am hoping that holds for am and lower...we willl see
ppusa: pattern is steep so i think
potential down first
Daniel X: ok ...traders are saying a breach of 1425...1300 to 1250
Daniel X: beleive it or not
dave_b_quik: g'morning traders!
Tom_B: pessimist
raz_62: they must be looking at my gann charts
johnl96: hi dave, daniel
Daniel X: those #s have been right since i've been posting them
raz_62: daily says 1312
Daniel X: good morning
Daniel X: could be raz!
Hollie_: cup and handle
Daniel X: hmm no real Ga trade this am
Daniel X: Gap
Daniel X: 44/38 support
Daniel X: look for a quick spike to the globex overnight
johnl96: what tf hollie?
Daniel X: 53 /58 upside
Tom_B: smax buy ?
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Daniel X: me no buy
Daniel X: till 53 to 58 clears
Hollie_: yesterday, 5 min
ppusa: nq is holding 20 bar na at 1440
area
ppusa: ma
ppusa: break of that put it on
defensive
johnl96: thx
ppusa: sold q's
tippet: 10am #'s
tippet: globex low 25?
Buffy_04364: yes
tippet: PPT out overnight
dave_b_quik: buffy, did you make it
to the ensign class yesterday?
Buffy_04364: no I did not and didn't
see anything new posted
Buffy_04364: :-(
Buffy_04364: did you go?
ppusa: support is here
ppusa: break it and down i think
ppusa: 20 bar ma
1goods: hello Dorkiest
Dorkiest: Hi goods
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tippet: SOX selling
ppusa: whew that was close
ppusa: till short
ppusa: still
ppusa: not over yet
ppusa: referring to the suspense
tippet: be one with the dark side
ppusa: better now
raz_62: S43.5
ppusa: hour chart doesn't look like it
should do a uturn
ppusa: don't forget reports though
jimmer49: what reports?
Daniel X: 38 support ounce
tomsurf: SOX test of yest.
low...see what happens now.
ppusa: i don't know...i will look i
thought someone said reports
Daniel X: initila was at 8:30
Daniel X: initial jobless
jimmer49: no other reports until
tomorrow according to briefing
ppusa: good enough for me...was going
to check
Daniel X: a 30 min close below 38 will take us to 1400
ppusa: vcovered
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Daniel X: i cannot think of a reason for it to go up PP
Daniel X: no guts..take b/e
Daniel X: thats all
ppusa: 15 min BB support
ppusa: head and shoulders on 15 too
ppusa: sloppy but a similar one the
other day turned higher
ppusa: symmetrical 1-2-3
ann_87: yest low 36.50
johnl96: anyone else having problems with ensign? my es
charts keep freaking out on me.
ppusa: look at my 5 miinute chart ann
and raz
Dotcoza: Ensign Ok
ppusa: hammer buy on 5
raz_62: out e l43.5
ppusa: so far went from lower side of
bb to middle of bb....see what happens next
Daniel X: Dbank and merril sold from the top
Daniel X: 52
ppusa: one thing i question is why all
of a sudden the market has to go 100 points lower but it doesn't matter because time will
tell
google_2: morning
raz_62: morning stranger
Rose0001: Hi, Google.
ppusa: i have bb support on several
time frames at that low...hopefully price will slide down it cos i would like to take a
shot at going long today in the right setup
tomsurf: morning googs
ann_87: hi google
google_2: l45
MartyJ01: hi google
Daniel X: looka like the continuation of yesterdays chop
raz_62: thats for sure
raz_62: bad sign when the open chops
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Daniel X: the move usually comes a little later is all...for me anyways
ppusa: middle of BB here on 5 minute
ann_87: trin is .65 nyse
google_2: flat
Daniel X: if i add 15 to the low of 35.50 i get 50.50..i'm assumming we'll chop in that
area
Daniel X: hope i'm wrong
ppusa: normally if there is an outside
up day it will start after 10:30 pst
tomsurf: ann, yes and no neg ticks
push yet
google_2: l45
ppusa: notice i put pst 'cos that's
where the action is
ann_87: yes i see no sell [pressure
Daniel X: PP what...did wall street move to PST?!lol
ppusa: working a rule of 4 on the hour
chart
raz_62: out 43
ppusa: wallstreet right here...downtown
La Jolla
google_2: flat -2
johnl96: ADD finally moving
johnl96: down
ppusa: did anyone notice the gap in
this area on the daily from way back?
google_2: still looking for long entry
ppusa: intraday gap
Daniel X: still looking for a short
Daniel X: as long as 38 holds god sign for a long
Daniel X: good
ppusa: gut says lower until 10:30
ppusa: 1:30
tippet: may be building inv h&s
here rt shoulder now
ppusa: i would love to see a double top
here...the kind that says break me later
Daniel X: locals switching gears to long side but cisco being ignored by largercaps..hence
the chop
ann_87: or dbl bottom
ppusa: with an arrow that points to
here
google_2: open pattern bearish so far
ppusa: ann...tonight you are going to
bed early
ann_87: hourly buy divergence..we'll
see
Daniel X: yes ..neg..if we cannot muster a drive to openning lows and stay up there
ppusa: bo more words from me...we will
see
ppusa: no more
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Daniel X: indices mixed
raz_62: S39.5
Daniel X: 1rst tier stocks mixed
johnl96: I'm not sure if that was technically 3 humps
on the 3 min es, but I'm going to pretend it was
tippet: nice raz
Daniel X: we shold be going down but those not invited will get stopped out....lol
google_2: s35.5
raz_62: out
raz_62: +6
ppusa: nice raz
Daniel X: raz hold one b/e
ppusa: trade it
google_2: hs on es 5 min
johnl96: add negative
ppusa: just reenter with mental stop at
b/e
tippet: got poke the bottom of down
channel on nq
Daniel X: i hate when we all know where it's going but chopped on the way
ppusa: and add
ppusa: someone tried to hijack a
plane????
Daniel X: what!!???
ppusa: caught
p_8: where pp?
Daniel X: excuse to dump...lol
ppusa: rumor
ppusa: know nothing yet
google_2: vblock
Daniel X: you what i said about fast move to 25
tippet: fibs ndx daily? have 1412
as 50%
google_2: out 1+5.5
ppusa: there will be bottom pickers all
am
ppusa: always is
Daniel X: not if we breach 25
ppusa: not going up until it burns them
out
ppusa: high is 64? how big a range do
you expect today?
ppusa: 1474 low...lower tomorrow?
ppusa: sorry 1374
Daniel X: it's a matter of neg #s...and traders not wanting to own at these low prices
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ppusa: i agree...i've been talking
about a slam....so not a buyer unless i see 1400 hold late in day
ppusa: flag?
tippet: potential hijack news hits
major news station
ppusa: cnbc has enron hearing so no
news there
tippet: miami to argentina flight
johnl96: ADD flatlining again
ppusa: in and out on flag
rich012: tippett, where'd you get that
news. The major news networks have nothing on that
ppusa: sholda stayed
wolfblz: next level 1426/7
tippet: MSNBC
ppusa: shoot
ppusa: me
google_2: vbolck still in effect
rich012: msnbc now has it again
johnl96: short es
raz_62: hey you never splained that one
ppusa: most news stations are covering
enron
ppusa: alert
raz_62: this is twice you whipped it out
ppusa: are scare
ppusa: miami to bueno
rich012: pilot hit the potential
hijacker ofver the head with an ax OUCH
tippet: "vbolck" ????
ppusa: tried to force way into cockpit
ppusa: restrained
Tom_B: YaMon !!
ppusa: cool rich
rich012: landed in Argentina
Tom_B: curious which way axe was...
ppusa: haha
rich012: :-)
google_2: out +7 flat
Tom_B: cvrd
ppusa: raz you talking to me?
raz_62: no
strad -: I have 1426 as initial support, then 1417
ppusa: k
ann_87: good one google
johnl96: out, flat
ppusa: anyone get the flag short?
ann_87: globex low test
Tom_B: Pieces
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ppusa: 3 humps down on hour chart
ppusa: last 3 days lows
ppusa: not a buyer
raz_62: we need to see 16 to 13
tippet: looks wedgyish on that
60minchart pp
ppusa: 1417 50%... i agree
Daniel X: 1430 major pivotal area
raz_62: leg and arc on 60 min chart???
google_2: that's a schneitzen on hourly
ppusa: sure would look nice to extend
it 2 or 3 bars
strad -: 1445 pivotal for me
ppusa: resis
raz_62: now i have to learn the diff in schnitzen and
arc
tippet: schitzen comes on a bun
johnl96: schnitzen goes with saurkraut raz
tkay_1: hi
raz_62: could io please have 1 schnitzen 2 arc's and a
vblock on the side please
ppusa: what's a vblock
google_2: sun tan lotion
ppusa: oh gee
pender: 327 chevy
google_2: s39
ppusa: that's what i thought.automotive
engine.
ppusa: but i guessed i asked a flat
head
johnl96: short es 82
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strad -: long 36.00
johnl96: got burned on a couple of these yesterday when
add wasn't moving but...
google_2: out 1 +4
ppusa: trading lower channel bb
ppusa: go fool around the HOD?
google_2: flat
ann_87: smax buy 39?
ppusa: if this goes up first and comes
down later big slam
ppusa: upper channel Ann
jimmer49: continuation
ann_87: if a continuation ignore
channel
ppusa: right
tkay_1: hmm continuation.. up?
ppusa: but it is not the best looking
buy i've seen on smax
ppusa: 3 and 6 due for reversals
ppusa: resis here
google_2: s42
ppusa: midchannel on 5 min bb
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strad -: covered +4
johnl96: add's still saying down
ppusa: ann see how this came down ...
smax entry not the best
google_2: out 1 +3
ppusa: counting humps
jimmer49: stops just need to be tighter
on those continuations
Daniel X: we've had the move to 25 as target so thinking will hold for now as the low
tkay_1: i dont c what that was continautin of
ppusa: trend is a little tomuch up for
me to jump in short yet...i am wondering if this will be a 3 humper?
Daniel X: 40 being the top of the chop zone
Daniel X: we'll see
ppusa: 6 point could still use a
correction
amer_68: jimmer: How tight?
Tom_B: got sme up press hre
ppusa: tkay took out a swing
google_2: flat - 1.5
Daniel X: sorry 46
ppusa: trend up
ppusa: have a long way to go to upper
bb
google_2: s42
ppusa: 3 humps i think
jimmer49: amer - no rule, but I usually
say 3 - point is continuations should work right away or will likely fail
tkay_1: pp: o
Daniel X: locals are sellers at this 1440 area placing bets they'll be at the top of the
range
amer_68: Tks.
google_2: flat -2
Daniel X: goes through they'll get antsy and want to cover
Daniel X: and they do
johnl96: who are these punks who are bidding this thing
up on no volume?
amer_68: jimmer: retraced exactly 5 pts
from top of my 10:53 bar.
Daniel X: locals
amer_68: A number of retraces have been
5 or 5.5 points lately.
johnl96: i take that back
johnl96: volume's pretty good actually
Tom_B: s
Daniel X: stops up here
Daniel X: after the 40 went some covered
ppusa: 3 humps now?
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Tom_B: B/e
ann_87: trin remains low
ppusa: oh well looks like long fornow
Daniel X: longs above 38 to 44 area
Daniel X: 53 to 58 1rst res
tomsurf: looks like chimp had it
figured out....dam chimp, lol
tkay_1: hod test
ppusa: john and ann
strad -: tsurf lol
raz_62: woops my channels long from 36.5 didnt take the
signal
strad -: 62.50 target
Rose0001: Yes, when 15EMA1 turned up on
chimp, time to go long. I didn't do it, though. :-(
google_2: s55
ppusa: 54.5 here
johnl96: does anyone have an explanation for all these
long green bars?
ppusa: covered one
tomsurf: Rose- hate it when the
chimp is smarter than us, lol
tkay_1: doji at hod formed
Rose0001: LOL
raz_62: gotta have them so we can have some long red
ones without getting to 0
Rose0001: I didn't trust him. LOL
tkay_1: chimp gets killed in ranges
ppusa: John are you still long?
Rose0001: Yes, chimp is horrible in
range.
tomsurf: actually, I get a kick out
of it....chimp has no preconcieved ideas ;-)
nell6: chimp?
Daniel X: John ..locals covering..gets the bars yo speak of
tomsurf: nell- can read here http://www.enthios.com/trading/the_cross.htm
Rose0001: Nell:
http://www.enthios.com/trading/the_cross.htm
google_2: flat
Daniel X: and us 2 to 5 contracttraders
johnl96: never went long pp
tkay_1: what they are doin now is shakin out everyone
betting either way on hod
tkay_1: i hate this
Tom_B: 59 pop coming..then ?
ppusa: looks like LOD right now
Rose0001: Chimp says we go higher.
ppusa: no short here unless i see the
low go later
johnl96: thanks, daniel, you seem to be tight with
them, would you tell them to cut it out please?
google_2: 1561
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google_2: 1461
jimmer49: Who the hell is
"they" ?
ppusa: of course i will
Tom_B: teasing..
ppusa: short
ppusa: scaklp
Daniel X: lol John
raz_62: merrill lynch they=he
raz_62: or so the famous gully says
Daniel X: locals = they ..Jimmer
google_2: s55
ann_87: 56.50 low of 2 day's ago
Daniel X: 53 to 58 is the tuff area
jimmer49: "they" are all
trading for themselves, not in concert with each other
Daniel X: Jimmer they follow each others lead
ppusa: SP and Dow are almost through
yesterday's high
nell6: chimp method , will cause you to get whipsaw
Rose0001: 1456.5 low end of LSS sell
envelope, 1457.7 PIVOT and 1457 GLobex high.
Daniel X: i'm getting thsi stuff off the floor "live"
Daniel X: and it has not been wrong yet
rich012: "they" is anyone who
causes gully's trades to go bad
jimmer49: selective memory daniel I
think
Daniel X: you think
rich012: Are the EW fibs able to sound
alerts yet?
tomsurf: Daniel- is that info. from
connections or a service?
Daniel X: evry move they've made i knew
amer_68: Isn't that a turtle on the 5
min?
Daniel X: it's a service
ppusa: if dow and sp fail here later on
big sell off
google_2: tom I'll give you after close
couple of sites
TheBigD: what's the service?
google_2: they're cheap
tomsurf: googs, thx :-)
johnl96: I don't see a turtle on the 5 min amer
johnl96: didn't satisfy the close criterion
Daniel X: Jimmer i cannot evry single trade but i do get the sentiment and where they are
looking to short and buy
amer_68: 5 o5 6 min naz
johnl96: and then keep it to yourself
johnl96: Daniel
johnl96: :)
Daniel X: no..i tey to share when i can...i am trading you know!
google_2: you sqwak a lot
amer_68: tks john,
google_2: :-)
strad -: lol
Tom_B: cud rotate dwn frm here a bit
Daniel X: oh do i?
MartyJ01: lol
jimmer49: Daniel - so you say they
somehow telegraph what they are planning to do before they do it?
ppusa: short q's
johnl96: I think what the locals are really saying is
"Go after John's stops"
Daniel X: so if you think my "sqwak" as you say does't help..then..no more
info...kewl?
google_2: joking dan
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tkay_1: i dont doubt locals sometimes legally collude
against the "paper"
tkay_1: in a small way of course
QSuzy: Daniel.....keep sqwaking...
Buffy_04364: daniel please continue
with your "sqwak" - I know many do appreciate ti
Buffy_04364: L:-)
Buffy_04364: see
pete77_1: Yes, for sure
ppusa: KNOCK IT OFF
ppusa: trying to trade
tippet: pp -have us retesting wedge
brkout on 60min from above
Daniel X: Jimmer i have a service of a trader off the floor and he pretty much knows what
#s make them move in which direction etc etc
jimmer49: I am surprised he would share
such info with many
Daniel X: why not?
p_8: doesn't matter what the locals
do, it won't be able hurt us if we trade to our system, tkay
ppusa: wondering if i should buy a dip?
Rose0001: Daniel, that's why you are
our "Sqwak" box. I think that what google meant.
jean2: keep it up Danial - you've been very correct
these last few days..
Tom_B: there are, were 2 services that do this..
jimmer49: If everyone has the same
advantage, then no one has an advantgage
ppusa: i get buy signals slightly
higher ...i think i made a mistake
Daniel X: it's pay back for the anallists who shared their info a fews years ago
google_2: yes dan I'm also appreciative
of what you say
tkay_1: long here maybe
google_2: flat
TurnSig: Enough of this suspense Dan; what are the
service names???
ppusa: a lot of people think this is
going to go up and i have a feeling they will kill them
ppusa: sellit off later
ppusa: still short
google_2: s53
Tom_B: s
johnl96: short es
Daniel X: well at 11 am we were at 1440 so + 15 is 55
Daniel X: thinking chop zone
ppusa: if you guys have good entries
you could try for new low i donot know whether we should overall be buyers or sellers
ann_87: making right shoulder?
ppusa: have to decide whether to buy a
flag or stay short...if there is a flag to be bought
ppusa: the double tops are indications
that gonna go higher
Daniel X: 53/58 has to hold as support
Daniel X: for longs
(11:31 AM) Daniel X: take it as you want
Rose0001: Thank you Daniel. We all
appreciate it.
(11:32 AM) Daniel X: right
(11:32 AM) google_2: flat
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(11:33 AM) ppusa: low of current hour
(11:33 AM) ppusa: yuck
(11:35 AM) tkay_1: this is a "rinse job"
(11:36 AM) raz_62: this is yesterdays chop range
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: sure is tkay
(11:36 AM) Buffy_04364: that is true
too raz
(11:36 AM) tomsurf: tkay- as in
rinse out the shorts?
(11:36 AM) Daniel X: well John.. 11 am low was 1440 add 15 and where do we go and fail?
(11:36 AM) jimmer49: Daniel - as my
final comment on the matter - my only problem is when you expressed your inside pit info
as though it was a certainty, which it can never be.
(11:37 AM) johnl96: saw that daniel, thanks
(11:37 AM) Daniel X: not a certainty Jimmer just high probability
(11:37 AM) google_2: 1091 on es
critical
(11:38 AM) TheBigD: Daniel are you listening to Ben
Lichtenstein?
(11:38 AM) google_2: for upside b/o
(11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: which we hope
all our trades are :-)
(11:38 AM) ppusa: if this takes out 50
will have about 3 ticks to decide where next move will be
(11:38 AM) Daniel X: no TBO
(11:38 AM) ann_87: trin .57
(11:38 AM) google_2: what's TBO?
(11:38 AM) ppusa: covering
(11:39 AM) Tom_B: l
(11:39 AM) google_2: l56
(11:39 AM) Daniel X: no The Big D sorry thought it was an " O"
(11:40 AM) rich012: BigO, you listen to
Ben?
(11:41 AM) Daniel X: no i was responding to TBD
(11:41 AM) Daniel X: TheBigD
(11:41 AM) Daniel X: thought it was an O
(11:41 AM) TheBigD: no
(11:41 AM) google_2: ok thanks
(11:43 AM) ppusa: lots of buy signals
(11:43 AM) google_2: 1461-65 on nq
critical
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(11:43 AM) ppusa: dow and sp have
higher highs
(11:44 AM) google_2: out 1 +4
(11:45 AM) google_2: against channel
(11:45 AM) ann_87: trin .50
(11:45 AM) ppusa: decision time
(11:45 AM) johnl96: Chimp's been quiet lately
(11:45 AM) ppusa: looks overbought
(11:46 AM) ann_87: 1481 1.2 would be
equal lenth swing
(11:46 AM) ppusa: but buy signals
(11:46 AM) johnl96: es yest hi broken
(11:47 AM) rich012: I tried Ben's
squawk service...didn
(11:47 AM) rich012: didn't help
(11:47 AM) ppusa: dow too
(11:47 AM) ppusa: short
(11:48 AM) raz_62: short on buy signals
(11:48 AM) raz_62: thats confusing
(11:48 AM) ppusa: yes
(11:48 AM) Daniel X: i've been using the service for about 5 weeks,took about 2 weeks to
learn how to use the info and it been right on
(11:48 AM) ppusa: hoping they reverse
(11:48 AM) google_2: out +4 flat
(11:48 AM) raz_62: i think you may have hit it
(11:49 AM) raz_62: i had a selllimit at 66
(11:49 AM) Tom_B: s
(11:49 AM) raz_62: dangit
(11:49 AM) Doctor Zaius: so what's the trick,
DanielX?
(11:49 AM) rich012: daniel, did you
ever tell us where you get the info?
(11:50 AM) Daniel X: oh sorry ...sign up for a free trial and you'll see for
yourself..it's Brad Sullivan over at teach trade
(11:51 AM) google_2: borsellino boys
(11:51 AM) Daniel X: yep
(11:51 AM) johnl96: what?
(11:51 AM) TurnSig: Thanks Daniel.
(11:52 AM) Daniel X: welcome
(11:52 AM) rich012: I tried the trial
once before...it must not have been long enough for me to understand how to use it.
(11:52 AM) MartyJ01: teachtrade.com
(11:52 AM) johnl96: k
(11:52 AM) johnl96: what's borsellino boys
(11:52 AM) ann_87: 56.50 support?
(11:52 AM) hanksterr: dan, www.realtimefutures.com michael merman does similar service
(11:52 AM) strad -: google...big Italy and little
Italy
(11:53 AM) google_2: he works for L.
Borsellino
(11:53 AM) Daniel X: 2 weeks should do it..but you also need to know a little mileage
before you use it
(11:53 AM) strad -: :-)
(11:53 AM) google_2: yes strad lol
(11:53 AM) jean2: Ihope now that you told us, you don't
stop talking DanielX...
(11:53 AM) Daniel X: damn right i wil
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(11:54 AM) jean2: :(
(11:54 AM) google_2: you're a pro you
should be able to take a light joke
(11:54 AM) Daniel X: it's only $100/month come on..
(11:55 AM) jean2: how is smax doing today?
(11:56 AM) ppusa: need to break 50
(11:57 AM) Tom_B: s
(11:57 AM) ppusa: 200 to buy at 56
(11:57 AM) google_2: s57.5
(12:00 PM) Michaelaf: hi anyone know about a wave audio
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i have no active mixer device?
(12:01 PM) alan123: go to help rooms
(12:01 PM) Tom_B: PalTLk Help room might help
(12:01 PM) Michaelaf: theuy did not know
(12:01 PM) jean2: We don't talk in here during day
(12:01 PM) Michaelaf: maybe a computer help room
(12:02 PM) Tom_B: try it...trading now
(12:02 PM) Michaelaf: ok bye
(12:02 PM) ann_87: smax buy at 59?
(12:02 PM) Michaelaf: good luck
(12:02 PM) google_2: flat
(12:03 PM) FrankT: macd divergent
(12:03 PM) Tom_B: +1 :)
(12:03 PM) ppusa: flat too
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(12:04 PM) Tom_B: going into scalp mode, imo
(12:04 PM) ppusa: compx so far is far
away from yesterday's high
(12:05 PM) tkay_1: long here
(12:05 PM) ann_87: 58.50 was then smax
long i think
(12:05 PM) Daniel X: PP this your kinda day...sell HOD buy LOD
(12:06 PM) Daniel X: ;-P
(12:07 PM) ppusa: nq took out the swing
high at 38.5 at LOD and i looked at it but it just didn't register
(12:07 PM) ppusa: i thought John bought
there and i know Ann said continuation buy
(12:08 PM) ppusa: the smax buy was in
the top of the channel but could easily have bot a little pb
(12:08 PM) ppusa: i am
#**&$&$((#@ for missingit
(12:08 PM) Daniel X: lol
(12:09 PM) ppusa: short
(12:09 PM) ann_87: good call tom b
(12:09 PM) Daniel X: relax i did not get much of it either..in from 45 to 58.50
(12:09 PM) google_2: s56
(12:10 PM) ppusa: dod Tom call it?
(12:10 PM) ppusa: did
(12:10 PM) ppusa: i missed big
(12:10 PM) ppusa: i knew lower BB but
missed
(12:11 PM) Daniel X: tough day ...stopped even though you're right
(12:11 PM) ppusa: i only see 2 humps
here?
(12:11 PM) Daniel X: not a 5 point stop day
(12:11 PM) Daniel X: let me add.....imo
(12:12 PM) dave_b_quik: noon news
on NPR reported "today's session on Wall Street has been choppy"
(12:12 PM) ppusa: hitting ma support?
(12:12 PM) ann_87: macd could be
setting up a first cross buy at some pt
(12:12 PM) Buffy_04364: now tell us
somethingwe don't know Dave LOL
(12:12 PM) Daniel X: yes thats what i got off the floor at 10 ma
(12:13 PM) Daniel X: 10 am..lck of intrest in cisco
(12:13 PM) Daniel X: interest
(12:13 PM) google_2: we broke rule of 4
on this leg up
(12:13 PM) Daniel X: lack of...lol
(12:13 PM) google_2: never tested
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(12:14 PM) tkay_1: will go for hod imo
(12:14 PM) Tom_B: out
(12:15 PM) raz_62: what tf rule of 4 cant find a clean
one
(12:15 PM) johnl96: agree tk
(12:15 PM) google_2: raz from 1;30
yesterday
(12:15 PM) google_2: till bottom today
(12:16 PM) Tom_B: s
(12:17 PM) tkay_1: uh oh maybe not
(12:17 PM) ppusa: flat
(12:17 PM) ppusa: looks good down side
(12:17 PM) Daniel X: i will now go and stuff my professional "sqwak" mouth with
a nice italian pasta dish made by my favorite professional 'sqwak" mouth italian
cook.....c ya ;-P
(12:17 PM) ppusa: couldn't handle
anymore
(12:18 PM) johnl96: this is looking bearish to me, but
I don't know why
(12:18 PM) google_2: 60 minutes of
congestion
(12:19 PM) ppusa: that reversed the 10
tick
(12:19 PM) ppusa: could get another leg
up...maybe not...that was the minimum retracement i was looking for
(12:19 PM) ppusa: i have sellmode on
one chart still
(12:20 PM) dave_b_quik: tested down
TL from 2/1 and failed
(12:20 PM) ppusa: once through 50
decisin time
(12:20 PM) jimbo_320: hi all
(12:20 PM) johnl96: i'm short es, but I'm still not
sure why
(12:20 PM) johnl96: hi jimbo
(12:20 PM) google_2: out 1 +7
(12:20 PM) jimbo_320: john me too
(12:20 PM) Buffy_04364: hi jimbo
(12:21 PM) Tom_B: out
(12:21 PM) jimbo_320: 1st support 9720
then 9700, see if this bull move is for real
(12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: tagged 200 on
133T
(12:21 PM) ppusa: yesterday similar
situation ran it up onemore time
(12:22 PM) jimbo_320: hi buffy
(12:23 PM) ppusa: i have told some of
you that i was looking for nq to break away from it's support...Look at daily... if this
stalls and heads lower tomorrow will get a dump
(12:24 PM) ppusa: into next week
(12:25 PM) jimbo_320: nq touched 1427
as overnight low on nq
(12:25 PM) jimbo_320: +- 2 pts
(12:26 PM) raz_62: doji on hourly
(12:27 PM) Buffy_04364: ib 4m
(12:28 PM) google_2: +5 flat
(12:29 PM) ann_87: Dave could you post
a chart?
(12:30 PM) ppusa: is strad here? anyone
know strad?
(12:30 PM) raz_62: change your nick to Google_+5 and
you can just hit enter
(12:30 PM) Tom_B: l
(12:31 PM) jimbo_320: sox looks short
(12:31 PM) ppusa: i scrolled back ... it
was strad that went long at 36
(12:31 PM) nell6: google , you must be up at least
15pts today!!
(12:31 PM) raz_62: he he
(12:32 PM) google_2: does it matter?
(12:32 PM) raz_62: she was up 15 before she opened
paltalk
(12:32 PM) ppusa: strad is going to tell us what he saw that got him long at 36
(12:33 PM) Tom_B: flat
(12:33 PM) ppusa: aren't you strad
(12:33 PM) p_8: pp, there was a
continuation smax there at 36 on 1 min chart, no?
(12:34 PM) Tom_B: srt
(12:34 PM) ppusa: i think 38.5
(12:35 PM) ppusa: darn i knew that 50
was going to go
(12:35 PM) p_8: he must have
anticipated it as the bar moved up
(12:36 PM) google_2: messed up that
trade for su re
(12:36 PM) raz_62: 15
(12:36 PM) ppusa: he is eating...can
you believe this!!!!!!!
(12:36 PM) raz_62: 1t think
(12:36 PM) raz_62: same as yesterday
(12:36 PM) raz_62: still staring at me
(12:36 PM) kenac:
(12:36 PM) nell6: google , what trade ?
(12:37 PM) google_2: this last one
exited early
(12:37 PM) Epic: \
(12:38 PM) Tom_B: flat
(12:38 PM) nell6: you collected 11pts avg ?
(12:38 PM) strad -: pp ...it was just a chart
read...I don't use macd....looking for a bounce off 44.50 here
(12:38 PM) ppusa: based on?
(12:38 PM) Tom_B: Like watching sap run dwn a tree
(12:38 PM) Tom_B: had 45 as my trgt
(12:38 PM) p_8: strad, higher low?
(12:39 PM) Gene the Bandit: does anyone post their
trades here in real time?
(12:39 PM) ann_87: 48 am high
(12:39 PM) ann_87: sorry scratch that
(12:40 PM) Tom_B: lng
(12:40 PM) nell6: they all do Gene
(12:41 PM) Tom_B: grrr
(12:41 PM) Tom_B: out
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: bline below 20
on lower tdf
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: tf
(12:41 PM) ppusa: BB on 15 is much
lower than here
(12:41 PM) Gene the Bandit: i have been here several
times and seen no posts
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: some call LL
for looking long and LS for looking short
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: others just say
when in
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: others call
setups
(12:42 PM) p_8: patient is a
virtue, stay longer gene
(12:42 PM) google_2: bandit take that
bandana off and you should see better
(12:42 PM) raz_62: well i tried to scalp a long there
and it bit me
(12:42 PM) google_2: oh forgot, it was
a joke :-)
(12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: please take
that as a joke
(12:42 PM) Gene the Bandit: i see real good
(12:42 PM) nell6: how about the ones posted by strad,
google, ppusa, and daniel X
(12:42 PM) Gene the Bandit: wasnt here, sorry
(12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: ]np
(12:43 PM) google_2: pp
(12:43 PM) ppusa: yes
(12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: np
(12:43 PM) google_2: saw that long
consolidation up there?
(12:43 PM) ppusa: yes i did
(12:43 PM) google_2: :-)
(12:43 PM) ppusa: but i didn't wait for
the sell signal
(12:43 PM) ppusa: :-(
(12:43 PM) ppusa: the first short
(12:43 PM) google_2: yes :-(
(12:44 PM) ppusa: should still be short
(12:44 PM) ppusa: had the double tops
there too which said higher
(12:44 PM) Tom_B: me too...flat, grrr
(12:44 PM) ppusa: shiiiiiiirt
(12:45 PM) ppusa: so easy to see yet so
hard to trade
(12:45 PM) Daniel X: i won't post trades..just critcal #s and floor news etc
(12:45 PM) Tom_B: vry slow...lo vol
(12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: setups here if
I can
(12:45 PM) nell6: in retrospect ppusa
(12:45 PM) google_2: l43.5
(12:45 PM) johnl96: boy, I wish I knew why I went
short, I'd do it more often :)
(12:45 PM) Daniel X: PP u knew it was going here...come on
(12:46 PM) nell6: Gene there is one for you
(12:46 PM) p_8: continuation smax ?
john
(12:46 PM) ppusa: LOOK you guys
(12:46 PM) ppusa: 50 area congestion
had to go
(12:46 PM) johnl96: google scared me, I'm out
(12:46 PM) ppusa: you had to know that
(12:47 PM) ppusa: so when nq had the
final push i said looking for PnF reversals right
(12:47 PM) google_2: out 1 +3
(12:47 PM) ppusa: i went short
(12:47 PM) ppusa: what's the big deal
(12:48 PM) nell6: Bandit did you see that by google ?
(12:48 PM) raz_62: i tried that and got the longest red
55 tick bar on the chart
(12:48 PM) RaisingSun: es is in a
linear regression channel
(12:48 PM) Gene the Bandit: yes
(12:48 PM) Daniel X: mixed indices 1rst and 2nd tier all mixed
(12:49 PM) Gene the Bandit: but why did he get out
(12:49 PM) ppusa: who me?
(12:49 PM) RaisingSun: usually means
more down
(12:49 PM) p_8: it's for u to
figure out, gene :)
(12:49 PM) ppusa: google?
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: look for new lows below 37
(12:49 PM) google_2: pp?
(12:49 PM) ppusa: ann?
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: 42 to 37 support
(12:50 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra indicators
down and could not close above tos fwiw
(12:50 PM) nell6: i'll get out too , take the money $90
in less than 3min and now it is turning
(12:50 PM) johnl96: Raising, isn't it almost ALWAYS is
a linear regression channel?
(12:51 PM) nell6: and p_8 is right
(12:51 PM) ann_87: google? pp?
(12:51 PM) google_2: ann?
(12:51 PM) ann_87: LOL
(12:52 PM) Gene the Bandit: ann, are you using that
tradestation i sent you
(12:52 PM) Daniel X: 47.50 then 53 if not back down
(12:53 PM) strad -: ann? google ? pp?
(12:55 PM) johnl96: why is everyone calling other
people's names?
(12:55 PM) p_8: sideway market will
do that to u..
(12:55 PM) johnl96: :)
(12:55 PM) Daniel X: 50% retrace here
(12:58 PM) p_8: today's chart looks
like yesterday's, down, up hod, down to 50%-62%
(01:00 PM) google_2: until proven wrong
(01:00 PM) Rose0001: :_)
(01:00 PM) Daniel X: ;-P
(01:00 PM) ppusa: rose you look funny
(01:00 PM) Rose0001: :-)
(01:00 PM) ppusa: so does dan
(01:00 PM) TomEds: google, what you short at
(01:01 PM) Daniel X: my tongue is hanging out
(01:01 PM) google_2: 8-)
(01:01 PM) ppusa: :-B
(01:01 PM) ppusa: :-H
(01:02 PM) p_8: o|:-)>
(01:03 PM) nell6: this thing is slow today
(01:03 PM) ppusa: 0l:-)
(01:03 PM) ppusa: cool
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(01:04 PM) raz_62: they must make alot of cash off the
instant dates
(01:04 PM) raz_62: they push it enough
(01:05 PM) Daniel X: a pigs orgasm lasts 30 mins Tom
(01:05 PM) Daniel X: have fun
(01:05 PM) Tom_B: Hw do u know Dan ?
(01:05 PM) Daniel X: lol
(01:05 PM) Tom_B: lol
(01:06 PM) ppusa: haha
(01:06 PM) johnl96: this looks like a guess either way
(01:06 PM) ppusa: you longs going to
hold for new highs or take it?
(01:07 PM) Tom_B: grrrr
(01:07 PM) Rose0001: My chimp telling
me to hold for now. Confirmed by NQ tick and trin.
(01:07 PM) Daniel X: 47 to 53 and hold before i attempt to go long
(01:07 PM) ppusa: agree
(01:08 PM) tomsurf: good to listen
to your innner chimp Rose :-)
(01:08 PM) Tom_B: c'mon Dan need ur Buy stps &
Rev's to help :)
(01:08 PM) Daniel X: he he
(01:08 PM) Tom_B: LOL Tom
(01:08 PM) Rose0001: Cute, Tom.
(01:08 PM) google_2: out 1 +6 that's
for raz
(01:08 PM) ppusa: resis here
(01:09 PM) Tom_B: out
(01:09 PM) tomsurf: my chimp was
talking but I wasn't listening
(01:09 PM) Daniel X: im out 1/2...at the bounce off support
(01:09 PM) Tom_B: +5.5
(01:09 PM) Daniel X: 42.50 be/ at 58.50 will get ichy finger at 53
(01:10 PM) raz_62: cool
(01:10 PM) raz_62: you made extra what i lost
(01:10 PM) Daniel X: i only had 1 long today
(01:11 PM) Tom_B: Wud like retr to reenter lng...thnk
going North
(01:11 PM) raz_62: why sometimes it has say 50 on bid
and ask no spread and just jumps up
(01:11 PM) Tom_B: Too soon though
(01:11 PM) johnl96: ADD flat as a pancake
(01:12 PM) Daniel X: jumps to fill limit order i guess
(01:12 PM) ppusa: tom i have a feeling
down
(01:12 PM) Tom_B: shrt
(01:12 PM) Tom_B: but late
(01:13 PM) Buffy_04364: ditto pp
(01:13 PM) Daniel X: w8 Tom i have a feeling up!!!lol
(01:13 PM) ppusa: no big deal but don't
get sucker trade...just keep doing what you do
(01:13 PM) Daniel X: kidding
(01:13 PM) johnl96: think I'll join you in a minute
(01:13 PM) Buffy_04364: fwiw
(01:13 PM) Tom_B: my brain is numb, feels nothing
(01:13 PM) Daniel X: i no go long till 47 to 53 goes and holds a suport
(01:14 PM) Daniel X: still short
(01:14 PM) raz_62: we jumped a whole point then
(01:14 PM) johnl96: shrt 88.50
(01:14 PM) Daniel X: lol
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(01:14 PM) google_2: flat
(01:14 PM) raz_62: whew
(01:14 PM) tkay_1: short hm
(01:15 PM) Tom_B: Dummy Ind says shrt :)
(01:15 PM) Daniel X: uh oh looks like locals taking control
(01:15 PM) Daniel X: i'll see if i have any info
(01:15 PM) Tom_B: dangerous spot
(01:16 PM) Daniel X: moving stop to48
(01:16 PM) Daniel X: fate
(01:16 PM) Daniel X: trade
(01:17 PM) nell6: where did you go short daniel?
(01:17 PM) Daniel X: 58.50
(01:17 PM) nell6: nice
(01:17 PM) Daniel X: cut half just at the support bounce
(01:17 PM) Tom_B: cvrd...chicken
(01:18 PM) Tom_B: +1
(01:18 PM) google_2: chicken in this
market is good thing
(01:18 PM) Tom_B: :)
(01:18 PM) Tom_B: Either the retrace that refreshens
before lift-off or....
(01:19 PM) Daniel X: today is a real pro traders enviroment
(01:19 PM) Tom_B: i shuda stayed in bed then :)
(01:19 PM) nell6: no doubt daniel
(01:19 PM) ann_87: what does that mean
daniel?
(01:20 PM) google_2: means not for me
(01:20 PM) google_2: and you ann
(01:20 PM) google_2: :-)
(01:20 PM) Daniel X: looks like alot of the margin rule closed account traders are in this
(01:20 PM) ann_87: that's what i
thought
(01:20 PM) google_2: lol
(01:20 PM) Daniel X: if you follow what i mean
(01:21 PM) Rose0001: Not for the chimp,
either.
(01:21 PM) google_2: chimp is real pro
(01:21 PM) ann_87: ok can we take the
chimp with us
(01:21 PM) Daniel X: they sais it would get volitle
(01:21 PM) Rose0001: LOL
(01:22 PM) Daniel X: its looks like it wants do do the nsaty
(01:22 PM) Daniel X: nasty
(01:22 PM) Tom_B: s
(01:23 PM) raz_62: pp you still holding that 64 short
(01:23 PM) strad -: chicken gonna replace the
chimp?
(01:23 PM) ppusa: of course not
(01:24 PM) raz_62: I knew you had it when i didnt fill
(01:24 PM) ppusa: 60.5
(01:24 PM) ppusa: entry
(01:24 PM) ann_87: 40 is 62 % retrace
(01:24 PM) tkay_1: if chimp only knew how to stay out
of ranges... he'd beat anyone
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(01:25 PM) ann_87: buy divergence??
(01:25 PM) raz_62: maybe google can train the monkey
(01:25 PM) Daniel X: well we're in the same chop zone as yesterday 40 to 55
(01:25 PM) Rose0001: Chimp working hard
for his banana today. He's short from 46, but not sure because 15EMA13 sort of flat, but
the 13 EMAs are crossed down...
(01:25 PM) tkay_1: haha
(01:25 PM) tkay_1: yea google train chimp to stay out
of ranges
(01:25 PM) johnl96: out at b/e
(01:25 PM) johnl96: i've a feeling we're going to see a
pop up
(01:25 PM) ppusa: ann buy divergence
meaning non confirmed upside?
(01:26 PM) ppusa: smax buy
(01:26 PM) ann_87: buy divergence
(01:26 PM) ann_87: is what i mean
(01:26 PM) Tom_B: -3
(01:26 PM) Daniel X: vol not supporting up moves
(01:26 PM) ann_87: later pp
(01:26 PM) Daniel X: or down moves for that matter
(01:27 PM) ppusa: ok
(01:27 PM) Daniel X: but u know what they say about down volume ..i hope
(01:27 PM) tkay_1: TraderWinds Resorts?
(01:27 PM) google_2: let's just hope
it's not a schneitzen
(01:28 PM) ann_87: right google
(01:28 PM) ppusa: if i was going long i
think i would look for a better 1-2-3 to get the other longs out and shorts in
(01:28 PM) ppusa: translated means
lower please
(01:28 PM) raz_62: murrey math says 60% off trading
goes on between 3/8 and 5/8 line i have those the past 2 days at 38 and 52
(01:29 PM) ppusa: thanks raz
(01:29 PM) ppusa: good to know
(01:29 PM) Daniel X: in the chop zone i mentioned 40 to 55?
(01:30 PM) Rose0001: Chimp out at b/e.
(01:30 PM) Tom_B: getting sme lng rumblings...but cud
just be stomach
(01:30 PM) Daniel X: do you mean 1438 to 1452?
(01:30 PM) ppusa: maybe
compromise....up tomorrow down next week
(01:30 PM) raz_62: and in the past 2 days out of 80
5min bars only 24 traded totally out of that range
(01:30 PM) google_2: l47
(01:30 PM) Tom_B: lng 46
(01:30 PM) Daniel X: oh ok
(01:30 PM) Daniel X: thnx
(01:30 PM) ann_87: smax long 46
(01:30 PM) johnl96: you counted them raz?
(01:31 PM) Daniel X: i'm out
(01:31 PM) ppusa: yes ann
(01:31 PM) raz_62: woops that s just from 130 yesterday
(01:31 PM) raz_62: yes i counted them
(01:32 PM) johnl96: I'm not sure whether to be
impressed or not
(01:33 PM) ppusa: if nas stays here it
is above 20 ma on 5 and 15...very positive
(01:34 PM) Daniel X: using the info to make $ is impressive..otherwise it's just
knowledge...woulda coulda..shoulda...lol
(01:34 PM) ppusa: little triangle here
(01:34 PM) Tom_B: mkt shrt, imvho..path of least res up
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(01:35 PM) ppusa: i am going long at
either 1440 or 1340
(01:35 PM) Tom_B: :0
(01:35 PM) google_2: the time element
indicates a market turn either yesterday or today to the upside
(01:36 PM) raz_62: i would suggest 1415
(01:36 PM) ann_87: hourly chart looks
bullish
(01:36 PM) google_2: so far nothing
(01:36 PM) ppusa: okay how about one
more dip to 1440 and we will all buy
(01:36 PM) ann_87: es dbl bottom
(01:36 PM) ppusa: okay???
(01:36 PM) ppusa: everyone ready
(01:36 PM) Tom_B: flat
(01:36 PM) Daniel X: his 40 to 55 area has been a nightmare for the past 4 days
(01:36 PM) ppusa: the timing is right
(01:37 PM) Daniel X: this
(01:37 PM) raz_62: and we dont even have the power to
take out the ask on 1 tick
(01:37 PM) tkay_1: everyone's lookin for double
bottom/inverted h'n's thingie, its gonna fail
(01:38 PM) google_2: flat -1
(01:39 PM) Tom_B: grrrr
(01:40 PM) ann_87: that last upswing on
es was higher than last down swing
(01:40 PM) johnl96: yeah, tk but how many are looking
for schneitzens?
(01:40 PM) ann_87: many times an lbr
anti buy is formed
(01:40 PM) ann_87: that way
(01:40 PM) ann_87: fwiw
(01:41 PM) nell6: lbr?
(01:41 PM) johnl96: Linda Raschke, nell
(01:41 PM) nell6: thanks
(01:41 PM) Daniel X: fortah to fitty five...no trades for me
(01:41 PM) johnl96: I emailed her last night and
proposed marriage...
(01:42 PM) johnl96: haven't heard back yet
(01:42 PM) google_2: l48.5
(01:42 PM) Tom_B: l 48
(01:42 PM) raz_62: hey thats about my lines
(01:42 PM) google_2: rule of 4
(01:42 PM) Tom_B: wish i knew that darn rule :0
(01:43 PM) nell6: be patient john !!
(01:43 PM) Tom_B: i thnk ann posted sme charts...i
didn't get it..
(01:44 PM) nell6: rule of 4 ???
(01:44 PM) tkay_1: oke, my opinions are worthless today
(01:44 PM) tkay_1: feel free to use me as contrarian
indicator tommorow
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(01:45 PM) Tom_B: out 53.5
(01:45 PM) raz_62: s52.5
(01:45 PM) Tom_B: +5.5
(01:45 PM) google_2: out 1 +5
(01:46 PM) Tom_B: any more firepower in this ?
(01:46 PM) raz_62: sure hope not
(01:46 PM) Tom_B: reasonable spot 4 a shrt..but not
me...
(01:47 PM) raz_62: i probably turned the whole market
again
(01:48 PM) ppusa: 6 point PnF says you
might get lucky
(01:48 PM) ppusa: after 6
beware...either way
(01:48 PM) raz_62: me not know luck
(01:48 PM) raz_62: luck not know me
(01:48 PM) johnl96: I knew we weren"t going to go
thru the whole day without hearing PnF
(01:49 PM) Tom_B: thought u thew them out pp..
(01:49 PM) google_2: I trust pnf
(01:49 PM) johnl96: you like sqwaking too google!
(01:49 PM) google_2: no
(01:49 PM) google_2: just googling
(01:49 PM) johnl96: hearing sqwaking, i mean
(01:49 PM) google_2: :-)
(01:50 PM) Tom_B: 1 more push
(01:50 PM) tkay_1: daniel we need an update on locals'
plots:)
(01:50 PM) johnl96: yeah
(01:50 PM) strad -: lol googling
(01:50 PM) ppusa: raz i don't see 3
humps
(01:50 PM) sellputs: ppusa what box and rev are you
using on the nq?
(01:50 PM) Tom_B: see 2 hre pp
(01:51 PM) Daniel X: the vlume since 12:15 has been nearly untradable
(01:51 PM) ppusa: seems like sometimes
2 is it
(01:51 PM) Tom_B: i do my best wrk whn nobodys looking
:)
(01:51 PM) ann_87: 50 38% retrace
(01:52 PM) ppusa: sellputs
3,6,10,12,15,16,25,22.5,30,50 2 ways, 75,125,187.5
(01:52 PM) google_2: thanks ann
(01:52 PM) Tom_B: tnx
(01:52 PM) Tom_B: tough spot hre
(01:52 PM) rich012: good eye ann, you
fib watcher, you
(01:53 PM) sellputs: ppusa I am using TS 4 and those
numbers do not make sense to me
(01:53 PM) Tom_B: l
(01:53 PM) ppusa: reversal size
(01:53 PM) raz_62: out even
(01:54 PM) Tom_B: 52
(01:54 PM) Daniel X: now hold 57 and i'm a buyer
(01:54 PM) Daniel X: not
(01:55 PM) Daniel X: vol picking up
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(01:55 PM) google_2: 3 humps underway
(01:56 PM) Tom_B: out
(01:56 PM) ann_87: i was just gonna ask
(01:56 PM) Tom_B: +2
(01:56 PM) Tom_B: whrs my butt kicking mach
(01:57 PM) johnl96: pretty decent add diverg
(01:57 PM) google_2: price against 15
min channel
(01:57 PM) johnl96: short es
(01:57 PM) Rodent_1M: smax working very well
(01:57 PM) johnl96: this has only been 50/50 last 2
days tho
(01:58 PM) ppusa: above the 20 ma on
hour chart, 15 min and 5 min
(01:58 PM) raz_62: isnt the symetry a little wrong
google
(01:58 PM) Tom_B: google u hld that last long thru
small pbk ??
(01:59 PM) Tom_B: to 50 area ?
(01:59 PM) ann_87: sox a triangle all
day. going to test the top of T now
(01:59 PM) raz_62: woops
(01:59 PM) google_2: symmetry of 3 hump
violated
(01:59 PM) raz_62: shoulda waited
(01:59 PM) Tom_B: nice to be right i & out of
position
(02:00 PM) google_2: hs on 15 min
(02:00 PM) google_2: test time
(02:00 PM) google_2: +10 flat
(02:01 PM) Tom_B: nice Google
(02:01 PM) ppusa: nice g
(02:02 PM) Daniel X: gotta hold 53 to 57 area
(02:02 PM) ann_87: dow and es failing?
(02:02 PM) raz_62: reqally what did you trade
(02:03 PM) google_2: ok
(02:03 PM) google_2: on 15 min
(02:03 PM) google_2: we have
(02:04 PM) google_2: RS higher than LS
(02:04 PM) google_2: H is today's lod
(02:04 PM) ppusa: Gartley
(02:04 PM) ann_87: yes google so what
does that imply?
(02:05 PM) google_2: long aboe 65
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(02:05 PM) pender: old football injury?
(02:05 PM) google_2: short below 44
(02:05 PM) google_2: I favor long
(02:06 PM) ppusa: careful for slam
(02:06 PM) ppusa: didn't make a new
high
(02:06 PM) google_2: true
(02:08 PM) Tom_B: l 52
(02:08 PM) ann_87: so google this 3
hump is no good? as it violated symmetry?
(02:08 PM) ppusa: BARN right shoulder
(02:08 PM) RaisingSun: is this a
gartley set up nq 13 min??
(02:09 PM) google_2: not symmetrical as
I'd like to see it
(02:09 PM) raz_62: yeah i tried to short it and it
spanked my monkey
(02:11 PM) johnl96: out, flat
(02:11 PM) johnl96: starting to get scary
(02:12 PM) RaisingSun: ok
(02:12 PM) ppusa: H&S one minute
(02:13 PM) ppusa: right shoulder
complete...which way now?
(02:13 PM) ann_87: to the barn pp
(02:13 PM) johnl96: I still like short, but just barely
(02:13 PM) ppusa: BAAAHHHH
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: is it sat turady today?
(02:13 PM) Tom_B: out
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: staturday
(02:13 PM) Tom_B: +1
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: saturday
(02:13 PM) Daniel X: lol
(02:13 PM) google_2: yes pp
(02:14 PM) strad -: short 54
(02:14 PM) google_2: h &s
(02:14 PM) ppusa: yahoo
(02:14 PM) johnl96: short 89.50
(02:14 PM) google_2: s51
(02:15 PM) ppusa: now what here?
(02:15 PM) johnl96: I'll probbly regret this
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(02:16 PM) ppusa: yes
(02:16 PM) google_2: out 1 +3
(02:17 PM) ppusa: support here
(02:19 PM) Tom_B: l 51
(02:19 PM) raz_62: dangerouys long
(02:20 PM) raz_62: just fell back in the chopateria
(02:20 PM) nell6: yes i think its dangerous
(02:20 PM) google_2: flat
(02:20 PM) nell6: but you've been collecting all
morning
(02:21 PM) Tom_B: best time is whn risk is min, imho
(02:21 PM) nell6: not now?
(02:21 PM) ppusa: hour chart looks like
a washout coming
(02:21 PM) Tom_B: out :0
(02:22 PM) nell6: good tom
(02:22 PM) ppusa: i never liked that
double bottom at 40 area
(02:22 PM) Tom_B: shrt
(02:22 PM) ppusa: that is a big target
(02:22 PM) Tom_B: shrt by accid
(02:22 PM) ann_87: so is about to touch
lower part of trianglenow
(02:22 PM) google_2: s49
(02:23 PM) ppusa: if this goes to 40
and then maybe a reversal straight back jump long
(02:23 PM) ppusa: check out the length
of the hour chart bar
(02:23 PM) ppusa: looks like if they
took the lows at 1441.50 there could be a turn arond
(02:23 PM) dave_b_quik: gotta run,
happy trading to all
(02:24 PM) ppusa: if this happens i
don't want you bozos saying it wasn't easy to see
(02:24 PM) ann_87: by dave
(02:24 PM) raz_62: looks like 3 humps forming maybe
(02:24 PM) ann_87: dave could you do a
chart of that 2/1 you spoke of...
(02:25 PM) google_2: out 1 +3
(02:25 PM) raz_62: L46.5
(02:25 PM) Tom_B: lts go 45
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(02:26 PM) raz_62: i was 3 humped
(02:27 PM) Tom_B: out 45.5 +3.5
(02:28 PM) ppusa: doji on daily if
closes here
(02:28 PM) ppusa: here goes
(02:28 PM) ppusa: i may take a shot
down there adding q's
(02:29 PM) Tom_B: shrt
(02:29 PM) ppusa: anyone disagree?
(02:29 PM) ppusa: last chance to help
me out of this mess
(02:29 PM) ann_87: 44 is goog's number
to short h s pattern
(02:30 PM) raz_62: ouch -4
(02:31 PM) raz_62: worse trade today
(02:31 PM) ppusa: 30 is my potential
downside target based on PnF
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(02:32 PM) raz_62: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/no%203%20humps577.jpg
(02:33 PM) raz_62: tell me what i did wrong
(02:33 PM) johnl96: out +2
(02:33 PM) Tom_B: cvrd shrt..-1.5 :(
(02:33 PM) raz_62: sure looked like a likely spot for
3rd hump
(02:33 PM) nell6: nothing raz just probabilities
(02:33 PM) google_2: didn't break last
swing low yet
(02:33 PM) Buffy_04364: lots of new
stuff raz
(02:34 PM) raz_62: yes
(02:34 PM) raz_62: just put the cycle tool on to
measure humps
(02:34 PM) nell6: next time you will pick up 15pts
(02:34 PM) Buffy_04364: getting to be
an ensign pro :-)
(02:34 PM) johnl96: ADD still heading down
(02:34 PM) nell6: john +2es ?
(02:35 PM) raz_62: i knew short under 52
(02:35 PM) raz_62: been talking about it all day
(02:35 PM) pender: raz, only take those
trades on Wednesday, hump day
(02:35 PM) raz_62: hmm
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(02:35 PM) johnl96: yes nell
(02:36 PM) nell6: nice
(02:36 PM) johnl96: nell, you gotta change yer handle.
I feel like I'm talking to Dudley Doright's girlfriend.
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(02:36 PM) johnl96: thanks
(02:36 PM) nell6: lol
(02:37 PM) ppusa: HEY GOOGLE! if this tails off an inverted Gartley
(02:37 PM) google_2: yes
(02:37 PM) google_2: support still at
last swing low
(02:37 PM) raz_62: where i cover my long
(02:38 PM) raz_62: i know that spot
(02:38 PM) ppusa: if this were really
going up, they would killl it and snap it back
(02:38 PM) Tom_B: shrt, agn...
(02:38 PM) ppusa: question is what
happens...continue down?
(02:39 PM) ppusa: think i only buy if
snaps back
(02:39 PM) ppusa: new hour now
(02:39 PM) raz_62: wish someone would tell us that
(02:39 PM) ppusa: me 2
(02:39 PM) raz_62: i went short that should be a clue
(02:40 PM) google_2: still short
looking for 33
(02:41 PM) ppusa: didn't i tell ya it
would get here?
(02:41 PM) Tom_B: y
(02:41 PM) raz_62: do ya promise
(02:41 PM) ppusa: i don't know how you
guys can't believe some of these moves aren't easy to see
(02:41 PM) raz_62: woops underwater
(02:42 PM) ppusa: to buy or not to buy
(02:42 PM) strad -: h&s met it's objective
(02:42 PM) google_2: ok watch for rule
of 4
(02:42 PM) raz_62: out even it can fall now
(02:43 PM) ann_87: sorry ..just read
your post
(02:44 PM) raz_62: where we going easy
(02:44 PM) raz_62: quick
(02:45 PM) Tom_B: lng
(02:45 PM) ann_87: smax buy
(02:45 PM) ppusa: like to see a bitmore
of a tail but i bought
(02:45 PM) google_2: out +2 flat
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(02:46 PM) johnl96: long es 88
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(02:46 PM) ppusa: out
(02:47 PM) google_2: bunch of scalps
geez
(02:47 PM) ppusa: looks good here so
far
(02:47 PM) Tom_B: out
(02:47 PM) ppusa: whoops
(02:47 PM) Tom_B: slow on the trigger +1
(02:48 PM) Tom_B: l
(02:49 PM) ann_87: amazing how 40 is
holding
(02:49 PM) raz_62: google was that a long off rule of 4
(02:49 PM) google_2: yes
(02:49 PM) tomsurf: I could be
wrong but having a hard time with the market falling apart today with the trin and tick
readings I've seen.
(02:50 PM) raz_62: top at 1359
(02:50 PM) google_2: tom
(02:50 PM) google_2: basing isn't easy
(02:50 PM) strad -: agree tom
(02:50 PM) ann_87: the es has a 15 min
anti..
(02:50 PM) amer_68: 40 to 48 is the
10:05 bar
(02:51 PM) amer_68: Go 14 point below,
15 points above.
(02:51 PM) ann_87: google based on rule
of 4 should come back and test that line?
(02:51 PM) tomsurf: googs true,
it's a sloopy afair
(02:51 PM) google_2: if line is steep
retest doesn't have to touch line
(02:52 PM) raz_62: we have 2 5 min bars since noon that
didnt fall in the 52 to 38 range
(02:52 PM) ann_87: thx
(02:52 PM) ann_87: ss1
(02:53 PM) ppusa: very interesting raz
(02:53 PM) johnl96: out 90, +2
(02:53 PM) tomsurf: ya know googs,
having a pattern fail (so to speak) might be a clue that the opposite is gonna happen in a
bigger way. Just something T used to point out.
(02:53 PM) johnl96: dang!
(02:53 PM) johnl96: too early
(02:53 PM) google_2: absolutely tom
(02:53 PM) google_2: we're just testing
1440 over and over again
(02:53 PM) ann_87: that's what lbr
always said
(02:54 PM) johnl96: tomsurf, happens a lot!!!!!!!!
(02:54 PM) tomsurf: That women has
a great mind...learned lots from her.
(02:54 PM) johnl96: those are a few of my favorite
trades
(02:54 PM) ppusa: 30 point PnF says
don't get excited about upside
(02:54 PM) johnl96: shake it up and turn it over again,
pp
(02:54 PM) johnl96: :)
(02:55 PM) raz_62: well ill short its easy too see for
you
(02:55 PM) ppusa: in the past i have
gone log in this situation so many times and been wrong that maybe this time down
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(02:56 PM) raz_62: i hope
(02:56 PM) Daniel X: i havn't been exited since since 11am
(02:56 PM) raz_62: underwater at this point
(02:56 PM) ppusa: dan you have missed a
lot of fun
(02:56 PM) Daniel X: i bet
(02:56 PM) Tom_B: isn't that whn u brought up the pig ?
(02:56 PM) johnl96: what do you do when you're just
sitting there daniel?
(02:56 PM) Daniel X: lol
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(02:56 PM) ppusa: don't go there
(02:57 PM) Daniel X: read
(02:57 PM) johnl96: wait, I don't think I want to know
(02:57 PM) MartyJ01: Possibly a slime close, things
flattening out...
(02:57 PM) Daniel X: the post
(02:57 PM) ppusa: if this doesn't make
a higher high tomorrow ohmy
(02:57 PM) google_2: s48
(02:57 PM) Tom_B: s 47.5
(02:57 PM) tomsurf: good to hear
Daniel cause after your pig info.....I was getting worried, LOL
(02:58 PM) Daniel X: he eh
(02:58 PM) Daniel X: he he
(02:59 PM) tomsurf: ;-)
(02:59 PM) raz_62: if i could stop screwing up limit
and stop i would do better
(02:59 PM) Daniel X: my last trade was a 50.50to a 45.50 short
(03:00 PM) Daniel X: 4 trades on theday
(03:00 PM) Daniel X: lost interest
(03:00 PM) Daniel X: migrain
(03:01 PM) google_2: out 1 +4
(03:01 PM) Daniel X: great!
(03:01 PM) johnl96: short es
(03:01 PM) johnl96: 88.50
(03:02 PM) jean2: DanX - Hope you aren't trying to get
sympathy because you lost interest - (but sorry about the migraine)
(03:03 PM) johnl96: dang, it's after 3:00
(03:03 PM) Daniel X: lost interest not $ ;-)
(03:03 PM) johnl96: man, did I ever get lucky
(03:03 PM) Tom_B: out 40 + 7.5
(03:03 PM) Daniel X: excellent
(03:03 PM) jean2: yes - I noticed Dan - congrats...
(03:04 PM) raz_62: dont tell me you forgot to check
bonds
(03:04 PM) Daniel X: ok i won't
(03:04 PM) Tom_B: wat r those :)
(03:05 PM) Tom_B: may hve more can't afford to see if
it takes out 38
(03:05 PM) Daniel X: lost interest when it began to take too much effort and no follow
through on the signals..hence the migrain
(03:05 PM) ppusa: long scalp?
(03:05 PM) ppusa: nah
(03:06 PM) Tom_B: u first :)
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(03:06 PM) ppusa: tomorrow trend day
(03:06 PM) Daniel X: could this be the trade we've been waiting for the whole day?
(03:06 PM) Daniel X: !
(03:06 PM) Daniel X: 200 on the 5 min
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(03:06 PM) raz_62: which way
(03:07 PM) Daniel X: i'm selling the bounce
(03:08 PM) google_2: flat +9
(03:08 PM) Tom_B: applause google
(03:08 PM) ann_87: way to go !
(03:08 PM) MartyJ01: good one
(03:08 PM) raz_62: yes
(03:08 PM) google_2: pulling teeth
(03:08 PM) ppusa: 1-2-3 on 15 minute
now
(03:09 PM) raz_62: i made 9 on 10 trades but just gave
it back
(03:09 PM) Tom_B: can u spare a dime for a cup of
coffee here ?
(03:09 PM) nell6: wonderfull
(03:10 PM) johnl96: out 85.50
(03:10 PM) johnl96: +3
(03:10 PM) Tom_B: May chop now
(03:10 PM) google_2: nice john
(03:10 PM) johnl96: thanks
(03:10 PM) ppusa: anyone long?
(03:10 PM) Tom_B: u frst :0
(03:10 PM) johnl96: no
(03:11 PM) raz_62: no but im short 2
(03:11 PM) Tom_B: may need 2 more pushes dwn ?
(03:11 PM) raz_62: please go down
(03:11 PM) Tom_B: or 1
(03:11 PM) Daniel X: 44 has to keep it down RAZ
(03:11 PM) Daniel X: brb
(03:12 PM) raz_62: well you can forget that
(03:12 PM) johnl96: yeah, I'll go long
(03:12 PM) johnl96: 86.75
(03:13 PM) Tom_B: if i had any hydrant i'd scalp shrt
here ttmar
(03:13 PM) johnl96: back to short
(03:14 PM) google_2: patience pays
(03:15 PM) Tom_B: that wuuda arkd
(03:15 PM) Tom_B: wrkd
(03:15 PM) raz_62: come on 15
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(03:16 PM) Tom_B: slapping self with old fish
(03:16 PM) hanksterr: the chimp is
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(03:17 PM) johnl96: ADD gapping down
(03:17 PM) google_2: pass me a fish
(03:17 PM) Tom_B: LOL
(03:17 PM) raz_62: nq going for my stop
(03:17 PM) Tom_B: Hate whn I see'm & just don't do
them...DA
(03:18 PM) google_2: I'm done
(03:18 PM) johnl96: ADD still heading down
(03:18 PM) google_2: won't short here
(03:19 PM) ppusa: l
(03:19 PM) ppusa: o
(03:19 PM) ppusa: ut
(03:19 PM) johnl96: getting close to the time where the
es gets a mind of it's own
(03:19 PM) raz_62: stopped out
(03:19 PM) ppusa: lout for a scalp
(03:19 PM) Tom_B: cud get the little pop but 2 waves
dwn... hmmm
(03:20 PM) raz_62: +10 on 14 r/t
(03:20 PM) raz_62: hard way to go
(03:20 PM) google_2: raz that's
wonderful!!
(03:20 PM) google_2: congrats :-)
(03:20 PM) raz_62: not really
(03:21 PM) raz_62: but beats losing
(03:21 PM) scorp: chin up!
(03:21 PM) ppusa: good raz
(03:21 PM) google_2: yes
(03:21 PM) tomsurf: raz ;-)
(03:21 PM) ppusa: it's a start?
(03:22 PM) johnl96: add made a few ticks up, but it's
so buried, it's not worth worrying about
(03:22 PM) raz_62: now watch it
(03:22 PM) raz_62: was short 2
(03:22 PM) Tom_B: Gonna Chimpnap the Chimp
(03:24 PM) ppusa: the type of sell
signal nq may get on the 25 point PnF is one that usually runs...maybe tomorrow
(03:24 PM) ann_87: that's great raz!
(03:24 PM) raz_62: thanks
(03:25 PM) raz_62: that was 3 humps down kinda
(03:25 PM) raz_62: not verypretty
(03:25 PM) Tom_B: this may be the one
(03:25 PM) google_2: would love to go
long off 33
(03:26 PM) Tom_B: not for a long just
(03:26 PM) ann_87: the 79% retrace#
(03:26 PM) Tom_B: hump 3
(03:26 PM) Rose0001: I feel like I'm in
a coma, going in an out of consciousness with my connectivity problem. Comcast coming out
again this afternoon.
(03:26 PM) raz_62: i have a 17 to 15 looming large
still
(03:26 PM) ann_87: ohh rose i feel for
you
(03:26 PM) Rose0001: Thanks, Ann. Very
frustrating!
(03:27 PM) raz_62: never did fix it
(03:27 PM) johnl96: tell 'em I said hi, rose
(03:28 PM) ann_87: smax buy 38/5
(03:29 PM) Tom_B: l
(03:29 PM) ppusa: lout
(03:29 PM) ppusa: still have q's here
(03:29 PM) ppusa: what to do
(03:30 PM) johnl96: made 1 and lost 1 on last 2
(03:30 PM) johnl96: quit for the day pp
(03:30 PM) Tom_B: out
(03:31 PM) Tom_B: -1
(03:31 PM) ppusa: hold or
fold...looking for a door
(03:31 PM) johnl96: I don't know about the rest of you,
but by the end of the day, I'm whipped
(03:32 PM) johnl96: bearish add diverge setting up, but
too late to trade it
(03:32 PM) Rose0001: Me, too, John. Did
you say you're on Comcast or Verizon DSL?
(03:33 PM) johnl96: comcast, had verizon
(03:33 PM) johnl96: I've had no problems with cable
rose
(03:33 PM) tippet: sox lod
(03:34 PM) johnl96: took 'em a while to get it going,
but good since
(03:34 PM) ann_87: jimmer would give me
butt kicking machine on smax call
(03:34 PM) johnl96: guess it wasnt too late
(03:34 PM) Quan2: Can anyone tell me where I can find
the details of the rule of 4 discussed here today?
(03:35 PM) raz_62: its at dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart but is only the 4th
touch of a trend line if i am correct
(03:36 PM) ppusa: somehow the trend on
the 5 minute chart has turned decidedly negative
(03:36 PM) Quan2: Thx Raz - Any particulular TF or
trend line setting?
(03:41 PM) ppusa: hey
(03:41 PM) ppusa: i wonder????
(03:41 PM) raz_62: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-01-15/google%20rule%20of%204%20line1.jpg
(03:41 PM) raz_62: another
(03:41 PM) Daniel X: bounced anf filled off support
(03:41 PM) google_2: chased crumby
scalps and left the good trades
(03:42 PM) Quan2: Raz - very helpful. Thx.
(03:42 PM) ppusa: that sure looks like
a completed Gartley
(03:42 PM) raz_62: like to dine on those scraps
(03:42 PM) raz_62: chips in a diamond factory
(03:43 PM) johnl96: what tf pp?
(03:44 PM) google_2: where's the Howard
today?
(03:44 PM) ppusa: 1,5,15
(03:44 PM) Tom_B: pp, darn mem probs...
(03:45 PM) ppusa: yours or the
computers
(03:45 PM) ppusa: i wonder if others
have same problems
(03:45 PM) ppusa: mine didn't start
until i added 256
(03:45 PM) raz_62: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/range%20raz578.jpg
anyone interested can see here how the bars either stayed in or part of them were in the
52 to 38 range (the yellow lines)
(03:46 PM) Tom_B: me too
(03:46 PM) johnl96: the 5 looks like one to me pp,
other 2 look pretty week
(03:47 PM) johnl96: weak
(03:47 PM) johnl96: raz, is that murrey stuff on the
enthios site?
(03:47 PM) Tom_B: I was posting & then realized no
one else was... i was out of mem...lucky my trade software wrkd so i cud cvr my shrt scalp
(03:48 PM) Daniel X: yawn..... well that ws enuff for me..think i'll call it a day
(03:48 PM) Daniel X: c ya
(03:48 PM) johnl96: c ya daniel
(03:48 PM) Tom_B: Bye Dan, don't forget to feed the pig
(03:49 PM) google_2: bye dan
(03:49 PM) raz_62: murrey is on enthios site this is
gann square from ensign
(03:49 PM) nell6: c ya dan
(03:49 PM) johnl96: k, thx
(03:49 PM) tomsurf: take care
daniel
(03:49 PM) Tom_B: pp u done 4 day ?
(03:50 PM) ppusa: yea
(03:50 PM) Tom_B: I'll pm u
(03:50 PM) ppusa: ok
(03:50 PM) johnl96: why can't all these happen before
3:30
(03:51 PM) raz_62: 15 coming up
(03:52 PM) raz_62: whats wrong with 330
(03:53 PM) johnl96: I use the ADD a lot and it often
becomes unreliable late in the day
(03:53 PM) johnl96: for some reason I haven't figured
out yet
(03:53 PM) Rose0001: FWIW the middler
LSS sell number was 1466.5 and the buy numbers were 1410.7, 1410 and 1408.
(03:53 PM) raz_62: i have 3 charts wanting 13 15 17
(03:53 PM) raz_62: wish i had listened to them this am
(03:54 PM) raz_62: i had a seel limit at 66 but it
stopped at 64
(03:55 PM) hanksterr: still in chimp
trade from 46
(03:55 PM) raz_62: bummer
(03:55 PM) tippet: SOX hammered
(03:55 PM) Rose0001: Good for you,
handksterr.
(03:55 PM) johnl96: you da chimp hanksterr
(03:55 PM) raz_62: really
(03:55 PM) raz_62: wish i could hold one
(03:56 PM) raz_62: every time i do i lose
(03:56 PM) Tom_B: Hank good job..i wrk 4 crumbs you get
the whole loaf :)
(03:56 PM) hanksterr: left on errands
and let the chimp run things rose
(03:56 PM) tomsurf: hank- lol
(03:56 PM) hanksterr: I usually screw
it up
(03:56 PM) Rose0001: That's hilarious.
(03:56 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra has a
ranchor with this low
(03:57 PM) Tom_B: see we had another sell @ 38... grrr
(03:57 PM) hanksterr: wonder if the
chimp is married
(03:57 PM) tomsurf: Thx for the
heads up Buffy
(03:57 PM) Tom_B: take a number
(03:57 PM) johnl96: raz, don't worry about it...the
goal should be to make money, not to be the smartest chimp on the block
(03:58 PM) strad -: support at 17
(03:58 PM) raz_62: jeeze wish i had not stopped out of
those 2 at 39
(03:59 PM) raz_62: i chart satisfied
(03:59 PM) Buffy_04364: 1415.65 bos
(03:59 PM) raz_62: now 15 and 13
(03:59 PM) raz_62: 2 charts satisfied
(03:59 PM) johnl96: wow, this is amazing
(04:00 PM) google_2: .65
(04:00 PM) google_2: thats accurate
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364: yep pyra
doesn't care about ticks
(04:00 PM) tippet: have 11 as 50%
retrace on ndx
(04:00 PM) Buffy_04364: adjust anyway
you wish :-)
(04:00 PM) google_2: have no need for
pyra :-)
(04:00 PM) raz_62: hmm i dont see a 13
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364: then why ask
(04:01 PM) google_2: didn't ask
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(04:01 PM) google_2: just stated it
must be accurate
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364: true comment
wouldof been better
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364: thatis what it
says
(04:01 PM) Buffy_04364: it was accurate
(04:02 PM) raz_62: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/ganndaily579.jpg
(04:02 PM) tippet: TQNT after the
bell
(04:02 PM) raz_62: daily chart
(04:02 PM) johnl96: sounds like someone here needs a
timeout
(04:02 PM) Buffy_04364: nice raz
(04:03 PM) strad -: LOL john
(04:03 PM) Buffy_04364: for all who
know plevin and that his daughter has been sick - she is now in the hospital
(04:03 PM) raz_62: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/gann5min581.jpg
(04:03 PM) raz_62: gann5min
(04:04 PM) raz_62: what really looks bad is the 1312 on
the daily
(04:04 PM) raz_62: maybe we will not get it
(04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: last bar closed
above bos
(04:04 PM) johnl96: what the heck is that raz?
(04:04 PM) raz_62: gann square
(04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: going to
reanchor here
(04:05 PM) johnl96: from where to where?
(04:07 PM) hanksterr: that is too bad
buffy I hope it is not serious
(04:07 PM) raz_62: this is somewhat uncanny yesterday
at 1405 i put this on the chart
(04:07 PM) Buffy_04364: ditto hanksterr
- they don't know anything yet which must make it hard
(04:07 PM) johnl96: where did you anchor it raz?
(04:08 PM) raz_62: it has never ran that long before
with out having to reanchor it and it went right where it said it was
(04:08 PM) Buffy_04364: using the
sameanchor as for pyra raz?
(04:09 PM) raz_62: i started at the peak at 1340 and
placed the 37% line on the first red bar at 1405
(04:09 PM) Tom_B: Bye all
(04:09 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok
(04:09 PM) Buffy_04364: tks
(04:09 PM) raz_62: the rest of the chart was hanging
out in space
(04:09 PM) Buffy_04364: bye tom
(04:09 PM) raz_62: and it fulfilled beautifully
(04:10 PM) raz_62: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2002-02-07/yesterdays%20gann%20sq576.jpg
(04:10 PM) raz_62: heres one from yesterday
(04:10 PM) raz_62: i started that at the red bar that
touches the 37% line
(04:10 PM) raz_62: it went down to 100%
(04:11 PM) raz_62: and bounced
(04:11 PM) Buffy_04364: does seem to
work well raz
(04:11 PM) raz_62: building more and more faith in it
(04:12 PM) raz_62: would love to take the murrey math
course
(04:12 PM) raz_62: people swear by it
(04:12 PM) johnl96: looks pretty cool raz...
(04:12 PM) johnl96: make any money with it?
(04:13 PM) raz_62: amazing
(04:13 PM) ann_87: h and s on daily got
target.. and 50% from sept low is what i have
(04:13 PM) raz_62: not much stops screwing me up
(04:14 PM) raz_62: supposed to run stops a full section
above entry but i am gun shy
(04:14 PM) johnl96: whoa!!!!
(04:14 PM) tomsurf: john- one
things for certain and that is there is no shortage of opinions with traders ;-)
(04:14 PM) raz_62: not but 4 to 11 points
(04:14 PM) johnl96: I'm glad you told me THAT part
(04:14 PM) nell6: 11pts stops!!!!??
(04:15 PM) johnl96: true tomsurf
(04:15 PM) hanksterr: looks like the
gorilla vs chimp trade lol
(04:15 PM) raz_62: i had those 2 short and put my stop
at 38 right over the line and it got me before it dumped
(04:15 PM) raz_62: 38.5 actua;lly
(04:15 PM) jimbo_320: bears surely
still in control
(04:16 PM) raz_62: 2 points higher i would be smiling
large right now
(04:16 PM) Daniel X: wow ..just like God told Moses...tap twice
(04:16 PM) tomsurf: you'd be
laughing for sure raz
(04:16 PM) Daniel X: no trades between 40 to 55
(04:17 PM) raz_62: stops have been my downfall
(04:17 PM) raz_62: either they take me out or i dont
have one and get creamed
(04:17 PM) Daniel X: only follow through was after it broke...gotta ne patient
(04:17 PM) Daniel X: be
(04:17 PM) hanksterr: same here raz
(04:18 PM) jimbo_320: all on a 0.68
trin today, somebody got wiped out, surely not right, everyone else have a 0.68 nysetrin?
(04:19 PM) strad -: yes jimbo
(04:19 PM) tomsurf: jimbo, yes very
interesting
(04:19 PM) jimbo_320: at close strad?
(04:19 PM) raz_62: oh no
(04:19 PM) strad -: all the volume went into the
advancing stocks
(04:20 PM) strad -: yes jimbo
(04:20 PM) strad -: on nyse
(04:20 PM) johnl96: .69 is what I have but close enuf
(04:20 PM) p_8: nyse up vol is
bigger than down volume, jimbo
(04:20 PM) jimbo_320: weird huh so what
where they buying ?
(04:21 PM) jimbo_320: not semis for
sure
(04:21 PM) p_8: sector rotation?
(04:21 PM) johnl96: the trin does weird stuff alot,
that's why I don't use it
(04:22 PM) pete77_1: I"ve got to listen to Daniel,
make some in the morning and give it all back plus more in the afternoon
(04:22 PM) jimbo_320: does anyone know
if it is the cummalive volume of the day, or is it just the volume in the last 5 min bar,
that would explain that a lot of buyers came at the open and inflated it for the whole day
(04:23 PM) jimbo_320: or deflated it
rather
(04:23 PM) johnl96: the trin uses advancing volume and
declining volume
(04:23 PM) johnl96: cumulative
(04:24 PM) pete77_1: My first experience with a UPS
today, went long and debating about my stop when the power went out. UPS saved the day
(04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: naz trin much
higher 1.76
(04:24 PM) p_8: yep buffy, they
moved the money out of tech to blue chip
(04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: sure did
(04:25 PM) jimbo_320: ok john i thought
it must be, guess those guys will have to puke at the open tommorrow
(04:25 PM) johnl96: I don't know why trin should be so
flaky
(04:25 PM) strad -: jimbo nyse trin was low all day
(04:25 PM) p_8: john, it's not
flaky, blue chip is doing not too bad today..
(04:25 PM) johnl96: I've fiddled around with some
numbers and I can't get it to make much sense
(04:25 PM) strad -: nas trin was up and down
(04:26 PM) p_8: trin is based on
blue chip stocks
(04:26 PM) Buffy_04364: can't reanchor
yet
(04:26 PM) jimbo_320: p8 semis got
hammered today
(04:26 PM) Buffy_04364: it is all still
below %D which is below 20
(04:26 PM) wilsco: tickQ was neg most of the day
(04:27 PM) p_8: y, like tippet
said, it closed at LOD
(04:27 PM) strad -: jimbo semi's not on
nyse...they're on nas
(04:27 PM) Buffy_04364: the last
twolows were not confirmed by tick either
(04:27 PM) Buffy_04364: hmm
(04:27 PM) jimbo_320: strad sure just
noting rotation
(04:28 PM) tippet: looking for 1740
naz
(04:28 PM) johnl96: I'm not sure that's true about the
blue chips p8, but I could be wrong
(04:29 PM) wilsco: downtrend line on nas has not
been broke
(04:29 PM) p_8: john dow is down
only 0.3%, nasdaq is down 1.7%
(04:30 PM) p_8: that's why trin is
relatively much lower than trinq
(04:30 PM) strad -: if you consider all nyse stocks
blue chips then it's true...or better yet all high volume nyse stocks
(04:30 PM) johnl96: I'm not sure how that relates p8
(04:31 PM) Buffy_04364: after hours
might be interesting
(04:31 PM) Buffy_04364: back later
(04:32 PM) johnl96: I guess my argument is that if the
NYSE trin is under 1.00 all day, the NYA really shouldn't be down at all.
(04:32 PM) johnl96: unless it starts at like 0.01 and
finishes at .69
(04:33 PM) strad -: not equally weighted
(04:33 PM) p_8: john,
trin=(advaning issue/declining issue)/(advancing volume/declining volume)
(04:33 PM) johnl96: what isn't?
(04:33 PM) jimbo_320: it would be
better if it was not cummulative but imagine too hard to calculate
(04:33 PM) johnl96: true
(04:34 PM) johnl96: yes, I understand that p8
(04:34 PM) p_8: so you see on the
equation that it is very possible
(04:34 PM) p_8: to finish the way
it is
(04:35 PM) johnl96: so is fish falling out of the sky
but it doesn't happen too often
(04:35 PM) p_8: lol
(04:35 PM) p_8: y, just have to
accept it
(04:37 PM) johnl96: oh well, the search for the grail
goes on
(04:38 PM) p_8: as always,
john..never ending journey..
(04:39 PM) johnl96: the thing that cracks me up about
the trin is that there are days when you can slap like a 9,3,3 sto on it and it'll call
every swing hi and low in the day
(04:40 PM) johnl96: but...
(04:40 PM) johnl96: there are those OTHER days
(04:40 PM) tkay_1: hm buffy around?
(04:41 PM) johnl96: left for a few tk
(04:41 PM) johnl96: said she'd be back
(04:43 PM) tkay_1: thx