(08:51 AM) rkat: hello (08:51 AM) rkat: good morning (08:52 AM) Tom_B: Anyone have Tick charts running ? (08:53 AM) rkat: not i (08:53 AM) Tom_B: tnx Paltalk: Go bannerless and support PalTalk! Subscribe today! Only $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (08:54 AM) rkat: you guys trade eq or es? (08:57 AM) rkat: i mean nq or es Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (09:08 AM) Buffy_04364: morning all (09:08 AM) humble410: morning all (09:09 AM) rich012: hi buffy. I saw your template 3 posted. Have you already explained the indicators. (09:10 AM) rich012: humble, u from Avid? (09:10 AM) humble410: yep (09:11 AM) humble410: but not humble on avid (09:11 AM) humble410: DRDOW on avid Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (09:12 AM) humble410: rich are you on avid? (09:12 AM) rich012: was on avid many years ago, or so it seems. (09:12 AM) rich012: I do remebmer a Dr. Dow. Did u have a web site? (09:12 AM) humble410: nope (09:12 AM) humble410: no web site (09:13 AM) humble410: just trying to learn to trade the emini (09:13 AM) rich012: Maybe that was Mr 50% or someone like that (09:13 AM) humble410: its a lot different than stocks (09:13 AM) rkat: hi folks. (09:13 AM) humble410: I remember MR 50% (09:14 AM) x21r: good morning (09:14 AM) rich012: u still do avid? (09:14 AM) humble410: he was from England I think (09:14 AM) humble410: on occasion...they are soooo bearish over there (09:14 AM) rich012: hey rkat (09:14 AM) rich012: mitstop still there (09:14 AM) rkat: howdy (09:14 AM) humble410: I would rather not have an opinion.... (09:15 AM) humble410: just trade the charts (09:15 AM) rich012: agree (09:15 AM) rich012: humble, this is a very good room. you will like it here, I think (09:16 AM) pjrl: not "THE" humble1? (09:16 AM) humble410: Hi Pj no not THE huble (09:16 AM) humble410: humble (09:17 AM) pjrl: :) (09:17 AM) rkat: can i ask a ques (09:17 AM) humble410: sure (09:17 AM) rkat: i just started trading es this week and haven't (09:18 AM) rich012: pjrl, I recognize u from avid too (09:18 AM) rkat: tried trading the opening half hour. does it take longer (09:18 AM) rkat: to get filled usually (09:18 AM) rich012: no (09:18 AM) rich012: Whose your broker? (09:18 AM) rkat: pmbe (09:18 AM) rkat: is the platform (09:18 AM) pjrl: hey rich. Is Avid still active? Haven't dropped by for some time (09:19 AM) rkat: global futures is broker (09:19 AM) rich012: How long does it take you to get filled in the middle of day on market orders? (09:19 AM) Buffy_04364: agree rich - fills are just as fast (09:19 AM) rkat: few seconds (09:19 AM) Buffy_04364: seconds (09:19 AM) rich012: should be the same then (09:19 AM) rkat: great thnx (09:19 AM) Buffy_04364: rkat have you been to the rooms website (09:19 AM) rich012: buffy, did u see my earlier question? (09:19 AM) Buffy_04364: no rich (09:20 AM) rkat: didn't know of one (09:20 AM) rkat: what is it (09:20 AM) Buffy_04364: www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com (09:20 AM) rich012: buffy, posted right after u came in earlier (09:20 AM) rkat: thnx (09:20 AM) Buffy_04364: if you click on here da charts on the main page it will take you to a list of folders that include dates (09:20 AM) Buffy_04364: inside the date ones is where we post charts during the day (09:21 AM) Buffy_04364: rich, to the ones who have run it in demo I have Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (09:21 AM) Buffy_04364: there were about six of us running it in sync last night (09:22 AM) rich012: OK< when are u doing that again? (09:22 AM) Buffy_04364: Howard has fixed the demo random generator to simulate RT (09:22 AM) Buffy_04364: IF you have the version from last night, we can sync anytime (09:22 AM) Buffy_04364: run demo all day (09:22 AM) rich012: The simulator is not a real contract right. It just simulates data? (09:22 AM) Buffy_04364: The room is going to have a seed number on monday and fridays (09:23 AM) Buffy_04364: then adjust the fill in anytime they come to the room and want to join in (09:23 AM) rich012: seed # = starting # ?? (09:23 AM) Orprepus: totmty (09:23 AM) rich012: sty (09:23 AM) Buffy_04364: yes and we have 17 choices now (09:23 AM) Buffy_04364: only got to play with random (09:23 AM) rich012: I have never used the demo before (09:23 AM) Buffy_04364: syncing can only be done in random (09:23 AM) Buffy_04364: you will love (09:23 AM) Buffy_04364: it (09:24 AM) rich012: The help menu doesn't have anything on how to use it...or dies it> (09:24 AM) rich012: or does it? (09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: best thing is even if you use another feed, you can just get ensign and run demo with no new feed now Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: no it doesn't but weds class might be on it (09:24 AM) Buffy_04364: I have sent workspace and template to many (09:25 AM) rich012: For your template #3? (09:25 AM) Buffy_04364: 1der if you know him went and got it last night and joined in (09:25 AM) Buffy_04364: now that no feed is required (09:25 AM) Buffy_04364: easy to set up workspace if you are familiar with ensign (09:25 AM) rich012: Got ensign (09:26 AM) Buffy_04364: did that mostly for people who are new to software (09:26 AM) Buffy_04364: but willing to send to anyone who wants it (09:26 AM) Buffy_04364: then you could stop buy room be in sync in minutes and join in the fun (09:26 AM) Tom_B: buffy need to get hi/lo on some tick chrts (09:27 AM) Buffy_04364: IF you have last night version (09:27 AM) Buffy_04364: ? tom (09:27 AM) rich012: So you are syncing your template #3 and discussing how to trade it? (09:27 AM) Buffy_04364: hi (09:27 AM) Buffy_04364: yes rich (09:27 AM) Buffy_04364: demo or real (09:28 AM) Tom_B: 8:27n est nq 75T (09:28 AM) Buffy_04364: don't have it (09:28 AM) Buffy_04364: goes from 816 to 834 (09:29 AM) Tom_B: ok...then some other problem, tnx (09:29 AM) Buffy_04364: H/L of bar? (09:29 AM) Buffy_04364: what is the problem with it anyway (09:30 AM) Tom_B: 8:27 est 75T bar , i hve h:1402, L 1386 (09:31 AM) jimmer49: Hi all. I have a meeting this morning so will be missing in action for about 2 hrs. Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (09:32 AM) Tom_B: Buffy...do u hve that ? (09:32 AM) Buffy_04364: ok jimmer (09:32 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks for letting us know (09:32 AM) Buffy_04364: will miss you (09:33 AM) Buffy_04364: not anything like it at all tom (09:33 AM) Buffy_04364: no big bar (09:33 AM) Tom_B: grrr (09:33 AM) Buffy_04364: rich do you want the workspace too (09:33 AM) Buffy_04364: you aren't answering pm (09:34 AM) caswil_1: does anyone make calls in this room? (09:35 AM) Buffy_04364: we teach you how to fish not do your fishing for you (09:35 AM) Buffy_04364: people will say looking for long (09:35 AM) Buffy_04364: or short (09:35 AM) Buffy_04364: discuss setups (09:35 AM) Buffy_04364: but you usually do the trade yourself (09:35 AM) caswil_1: ok,,thanks buffy (09:35 AM) Buffy_04364: there are exceptions where actual BS and SS are mentioned (09:36 AM) caswil_1: again,tks (09:37 AM) rich012: yes, buffy...workspace too. Thanks (09:37 AM) Buffy_04364: lots of information at www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com including the rules and stats for a system the room does call more called retro (09:38 AM) Buffy_04364: anyone else want the workspace and template sent to them? (09:39 AM) dave_b_quik: the one that's posted in the ensign/templates folder at dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com (09:39 AM) dave_b_quik: ? (09:40 AM) hanksterr: sure buffy can you send the workspace please Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: there is a problem with that one dave (09:42 AM) dbphoenix: Closing the gap. Starting to form hammers on the 3m (09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: type in email hank or pm me with it (09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: it adds buffy to it (09:43 AM) hanksterr: sorry, hanksterr@home.com (09:43 AM) Buffy_04364: you want them too dave to sync with? (09:43 AM) ann_87: trin is very low 62 (09:43 AM) ann_87: potential up trend day (09:43 AM) elly_34: do i need the new workspace buffy? (09:44 AM) Buffy_04364: either that elly or you will now have to change the times on your charts (09:44 AM) Buffy_04364: they are more realistic now (09:44 AM) elly_34: k well we can do that later (09:44 AM) elly_34: thanks for the email (09:46 AM) Buffy_04364: did you read the last one where the new version for demo was discussed by Howard (09:46 AM) Buffy_04364: we have 17 choices now as to the type of market we are testing in (09:46 AM) dbphoenix: I believe 1399 would have been a SMACD entry, but I could easily be wrong. (09:46 AM) Buffy_04364: much easier to resync now too (09:46 AM) Buffy_04364: late comers can get in sync without everone else doing it (09:46 AM) ann_87: trin and tick confirming upmove (09:47 AM) dbphoenix: Thanks, Ann. (09:47 AM) Buffy_04364: tks ann (09:47 AM) Buffy_04364: email has been sent and I included you dave (09:48 AM) dave_b_quik: great (09:48 AM) ann_87: 1000 ticks (09:49 AM) dbphoenix: Anybody else playing with SMACD? (09:49 AM) ann_87: .4 6 trin wow (09:49 AM) Buffy_04364: if that is jimmers he runs and exp macd (09:49 AM) dbphoenix: The Simple refers to the system. (09:49 AM) dave_b_quik: ya, db, but i'm a little slow with it (09:51 AM) Buffy_04364: working on a templat for it - too busy with howard last night to finish it Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (09:52 AM) hanksterr: me too db, I entered at 1390 on smacd (09:52 AM) dbphoenix: Were you anticipating the MACD X or did you actually get it? (09:53 AM) hanksterr: top of bar9:40 with ASI confirming a little ahead (09:54 AM) dbphoenix: Thought about taking that, but decided to wait for the actual cross until I get used to this. Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! (09:54 AM) dbphoenix: Are you using 2m or 3m chart at the open? (09:56 AM) hanksterr: 2m at open kimmer says go to 5m now (09:56 AM) BrainStorm: Hello (09:57 AM) dbphoenix: I was using a 3. I know jimmer says to use 2, but I don't have 2. Obviously that made a difference this am. (09:58 AM) hanksterr: stop at 1405.5 (09:59 AM) dbphoenix: Mine was at 1407. (09:59 AM) hanksterr: wasn't sure where to put it (10:00 AM) dbphoenix: I just went with the seven pts. (10:00 AM) donsuelo: I noticed last fri. you would have had a better result exiting on the 2 m cross around 10am......which I think jimmer said was within user discretion (10:00 AM) hanksterr: made 15.5 (10:00 AM) dbphoenix: I'm not ready for discretion yet :0) (10:00 AM) dbphoenix: I want to see how this works in real time for a while. (10:01 AM) donsuelo: It's the better part of velour (10:01 AM) dbphoenix: And I was right about the 2m. The stochastic gave a clear indication just before the MACD X. Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (10:02 AM) dbphoenix: Or chenille. (10:05 AM) hanksterr: short 1403.50 (10:06 AM) hanksterr: harder to figure the exits on this macd (10:07 AM) dbphoenix: You're showing a MACD X on the 5m? (10:07 AM) Buffy_04364: time line in pyra (10:08 AM) hanksterr: I am using 2m and 5m, just realized I shorted before the 20ma (10:09 AM) dbphoenix: Did you use the 5m for your short? I didn't show a X at that point. (10:09 AM) ppusa: wonder what chances are ofoutside down day and HOWeek here? (10:10 AM) hanksterr: no db, used the 2m but should not have (10:10 AM) dbphoenix: Thx. This will all vary according to software and datafeed. Just want to make sure we're looking at more or less the same thing. (10:12 AM) Buffy_04364: tom did you fix your data problem? Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (10:13 AM) dbphoenix: His rules do say that one shouldn't enter in the opposite direction after being stopped out unless the MACD/sto has made a lower high after retracement. Looks like that will apply here. (10:14 AM) elly_34: can't stay connected (10:14 AM) Buffy_04364: not nice elly (10:15 AM) elly_34: mom's isp kicks me off every few min (10:15 AM) elly_34: today (10:15 AM) dbphoenix: Need cable. (10:16 AM) hanksterr: are we making a lower high here (10:16 AM) elly_34: i'm on vacation (10:16 AM) elly_34: i have satellite at home (10:16 AM) dbphoenix: Give her cable as a present :0) (10:16 AM) elly_34: well she can't get cable out here in the country (10:17 AM) dbphoenix: Looks flat, hank. (10:17 AM) hanksterr: big war going on, need pp input (10:19 AM) dbphoenix: He might have taken the break of that retracment bar, but I can't say. We're not trending anymore, so I wouldn't. (10:19 AM) elly_34: he/who db? (10:20 AM) dbphoenix: Jimmer (10:20 AM) dbphoenix: He's at a meeting for a couple of hours. (10:20 AM) elly_34: how did jimmer's system go yesterday? (10:21 AM) jimbo_320: gm all (10:21 AM) hanksterr: be stop (10:21 AM) dbphoenix: I took the short at 1401. (10:21 AM) hanksterr: stopped out (10:21 AM) Buffy_04364: around 32 pts I think elly (10:22 AM) elly_34: do u all like jimmer's method? Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (10:22 AM) dbphoenix: I'm just starting to play with it. (10:22 AM) dbphoenix: Only two of us today. (10:22 AM) dave_b_quik: i'm "indicator challenged" but watching it (10:23 AM) Buffy_04364: I really haven't had a change to watch it (10:23 AM) elly_34: i'm indicator challenged also dave (10:23 AM) Buffy_04364: been watching templat3 (10:23 AM) hanksterr: db how are you placing stops (10:23 AM) elly_34: watching price and bars much easier (10:23 AM) Orprepus: dave what does that mean? (10:24 AM) dbphoenix: I place a catastrophe stop above the top of the current 15m bar. When the order is filled, I change the stop to 7 pts. (had been using 5). Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. (10:24 AM) hanksterr: thnx (10:24 AM) elly_34: db u trading it realtime now? (10:25 AM) dbphoenix: I used to place one side and wait for fill before placing the stop, but I lost connectivity once at exactly the wrong time. So now I place both at the same time. (10:25 AM) dbphoenix: Just paper. (10:25 AM) dbphoenix: I'd never actually trade something I'm not famliar with. (10:25 AM) elly_34: well i agree with that (10:28 AM) John 4242: db, no short trade on macd due to being in bottom 1/3 of BB? (10:29 AM) dbphoenix: As far as the indicators go, it's necessary to know how they're constructed, but it's also necessary to know how they behave. So at some point they just have to be watched. May take weeks before one becomes comfortable with them. (10:30 AM) dbphoenix: Good point, John. (10:30 AM) ann_87: a mike 5 min first cross and a grail buy (10:32 AM) skyprince_1: Interesting how retro would have sold on that last 15m bar, but MACD would keep you out due to bottom 1/3 of BB... Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (10:32 AM) dbphoenix: I'm not a huge fan of BB, but it is part of his system. (10:32 AM) rich012: buffy, been looking at your temp #3. What timeframes are you watching with this template? (10:34 AM) dbphoenix: Strange behavior if that was a bull trap. (10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: 50/75/150/300 T (10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: alos have it on some minute charts (10:35 AM) jimbo_320: very low trin this morning (10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: but trade the tick charts (10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: hi jimbo (10:35 AM) elly_34: is jimmer posting his results still? (10:35 AM) Buffy_04364: am short now (10:35 AM) jimbo_320: gm buffy (10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: you can cut down the learning curve for the indicators by watching them with the demo symbol when market is closed (10:37 AM) dbphoenix: No he's not, elly. (10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: strong downtrend here I think but 200 ma right there (10:37 AM) ann_87: yea jimbo re: trin but now is rising quickly (10:37 AM) rich012: buffy, you be on chat tonight doing the demo? (10:37 AM) jimbo_320: still only 1.03 (10:38 AM) ann_87: also tons of neg tiki readings (10:38 AM) skyprince_1: jimmer, you need a rule to get you into these moves...something to defeat the BB rule if other indicators allow. This one, and others are missed ops...IMO (10:38 AM) Buffy_04364: should be rich (10:38 AM) dbphoenix: Jimmer's not here. (10:38 AM) skyprince_1: HIs name is here... (10:38 AM) skyprince_1: In name only? (10:38 AM) Buffy_04364: he will be back later tied up in a meeting (10:39 AM) skyprince_1: ic (10:39 AM) skyprince_1: Then I can trade with abandon, huh? Break the rules? (10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: hope to have Thursdays discussion be a demo symbol for retro, template3 and others templates too (10:40 AM) BrainStorm: Do you just have to wait for the bb to move out of the 1/3 or does it nullify the whole trade (10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: ensign does not need a data feed to run demo (10:40 AM) skyprince_1: BS, good question...this is a good retro trade... (10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: so cost would be 30 a month after the free trial to have just ensign to follow along (10:40 AM) dbphoenix: I asked you a ? yesterday but you had already left. Jimmer's not interested in starting a Yahoo Group on this because he doesn't want to be responsible for it. On the other hand, answering emails has got to be a pain, partly because you wind up answering the same ?s over and over again and partly because those who are using it can't talk to each other. Would you be interested in setting up a group and inviting him to participate? (10:41 AM) dbphoenix: That way he could participate when he wants to and when he has time. (10:41 AM) John 4242: Brain, I think we have to wait for a retracement/continuation (10:41 AM) jimbo_320: nq gap close (10:41 AM) skyprince_1: John, yes, continuations defeat the BB rule.... (10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: hi howard! (10:41 AM) dbphoenix: Sky, my ? was for you. (10:42 AM) BrainStorm: so MACD X back and then re-cross Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (10:42 AM) skyprince_1: Oh...sorry db...yes, I'd participate. (10:42 AM) dbphoenix: But would you be willing to set it up? I've already got two and don't want another one. (10:42 AM) skyprince_1: No BS, a bar retracement and continuation...not crossing... (10:43 AM) BrainStorm: ahh OK (10:43 AM) jimbo_320: how is macd doing this morning, i have him short from 1404? (10:43 AM) BrainStorm: think the BB rule prevented entry Jimbo (10:43 AM) dbphoenix: I was short from 1401. Haven't been stopped out yet. (10:43 AM) Buffy_04364: stopped out (10:43 AM) skyprince_1: db....perhaps...I need to think about time commitment.. (10:44 AM) dbphoenix: Or if I set it up, would you be willing to be a co-founder? (10:45 AM) skyprince_1: db...sure... (10:45 AM) dbphoenix: May not amount to anything. Depends on interest. (10:45 AM) dbphoenix: Maybe I can get it done during lunch. (10:45 AM) dbphoenix: What should we call it :0) (10:45 AM) skyprince_1: Okay....I'll help where I can... (10:46 AM) skyprince_1: MACDX?? (10:46 AM) BrainStorm: always interested just cause the 'holy grai' dosent exist as advertised dosent mean we have to syop looking (10:46 AM) jimbo_320: sellers at lod for a change, we could be in for some down today (10:46 AM) dbphoenix: Jimmer called it SMACD because it as simple (easy). (10:46 AM) BrainStorm: I like that (10:47 AM) dbphoenix: Makes me think of Sugar Smacks. Does Kellogg still make those? (10:47 AM) skyprince_1: Great! Smack D! (10:48 AM) Orprepus: hey anyone know if jimmer macd "s" or "e"? (10:48 AM) dbphoenix: Shall I make it unlisted but open membership? (10:48 AM) skyprince_1: Sugar Pops are Tops! (10:48 AM) dbphoenix: He uses exponential. (10:48 AM) dbphoenix: You old enough to remember Sugar Jets? (10:48 AM) skyprince_1: Yes... (10:48 AM) Orprepus: thxs (10:49 AM) dbphoenix: Good grief! (10:49 AM) Orprepus: also BB setting 8ma waht about Deviation - has to be less than 2 (10:49 AM) dbphoenix: He uses 1.8 (10:50 AM) BrainStorm: nice move my trading software locked when I was trying to put in the first sell oh well (10:51 AM) Orprepus: thks - if you get a MACD group up let me know (10:51 AM) dbphoenix: Anyway, should I make it unlisted but open membership? (10:51 AM) skyprince_1: Some support at 1375/76 from yesterday... (10:51 AM) BrainStorm: perhaps announce it in the retro group (10:52 AM) skyprince_1: Yes, unlisted, open membership (10:52 AM) BrainStorm: also on the big MA's on the 5 min chart again (10:52 AM) skyprince_1: Agree BS Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (10:52 AM) dbphoenix: I imagine he's been getting a lot of email. (10:53 AM) dbphoenix: Obviously the BB rule needs work :0) (10:53 AM) dbphoenix: Assuming we understand it. (10:53 AM) dbphoenix: Which is a big assumption. (10:53 AM) skyprince_1: I didn't expect this move...had an up bias...surprise, surprise... (10:53 AM) BrainStorm: I get the impression that he dose not want 'responsibility' for it....understandable (10:54 AM) John 4242: BB rule killed us on this trade (10:54 AM) skyprince_1: db, there was a continuation entry at 1397 (10:54 AM) dbphoenix: I'm still short from 1401. Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. (10:54 AM) dbphoenix: Not real clear on the continuation stuff. (10:55 AM) dbphoenix: Doesn't there have to be a retracement bar? (10:55 AM) John 4242: no continuation on 5M chart as there was not a retracement bar (10:55 AM) dbphoenix: Great minds.......... (10:55 AM) John 4242: :) (10:55 AM) skyprince_1: I see a weak retracement bar (10:56 AM) BrainStorm: you using the 'sliding' 15 min bar entry db ? (10:56 AM) dbphoenix: BS, I think jimmer just needs to get people started. Participants ought to be able to work most of this stuff out themselves. (10:56 AM) skyprince_1: doji actually (10:56 AM) dbphoenix: I see dead people. (10:56 AM) BrainStorm: absolutely (10:56 AM) dbphoenix: Yes. (10:56 AM) dbphoenix: Yes, BS, I mean. (10:57 AM) dbphoenix: I think you need the wide initial stop that the 15m provides when working with MACD and sto. (10:58 AM) dbphoenix: Out for +20. (10:58 AM) John 4242: nice trade db (10:58 AM) hanksterr: wtg db (10:59 AM) dbphoenix: Remember, it's just paper. (10:59 AM) skyprince_1: Bouncing off support... (10:59 AM) BrainStorm: trading platform gone &*$'s up again (10:59 AM) Orprepus: dp - did and one take the macd long entry this am and than switched to short? (11:00 AM) dbphoenix: Now if I understand these rules, he'd wait for a move up on the MACD/sto, then a lower low, then the usual entry. (11:00 AM) dbphoenix: Yes, Orp, tho Hank took it earlier than I did and made 9 xtra pts. (11:00 AM) Orprepus: cool (11:00 AM) BrainStorm: re-boot back after lunch (if I dont get sidetracked) take care (11:00 AM) dbphoenix: He just got overexcited, I guess :0) (11:01 AM) Orprepus: lol (11:01 AM) Orprepus: all on nq (11:01 AM) dbphoenix: Yes. (11:01 AM) Orprepus: will watch on es (11:01 AM) hanksterr: yes but you made it back on the short, noticed a doji at 10:54 on the 2m (11:01 AM) skyprince_1: Amazing how retro and MACD entries coincide... (11:02 AM) Orprepus: why a 2m - I thought it was only 5M Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (11:02 AM) dbphoenix: The nice thing about making a gain like this early is that you have Monopoly money to play with for the rest of the day. I hate starting off in the hole, like yesterday. If I'd been using this yesterday, I never would have been on the wrong side of the trade at the open. (11:03 AM) dbphoenix: It's 2m for the first 15m. (11:03 AM) hanksterr: it is orp, I just am looking at both to help learn patterns (11:03 AM) skyprince_1: I don't know how jimmer got 30+ out of yesterday....I sure didn't....had +8.5...:( (11:04 AM) dbphoenix: The 2m can give you notice of impending moves, just like the 5 does with the 15 in retro. (11:04 AM) Orprepus: sorry for being late to the party here - did jimmer post his rules somewhere (11:04 AM) dbphoenix: Like I said, software and datafeed will give slightly different charts, so that may be part of it. Plus there is some discretion involved. (11:04 AM) ppusa: yes but goodluck trying to get to them (11:04 AM) dbphoenix: They're at the Yahoo retro site. (11:05 AM) ppusa: tried to get them yesterday forget it (11:05 AM) dbphoenix: I can transfer all that to the new group when I get it set up. (11:05 AM) Orprepus: thanks - hey pp did you get the short? (11:05 AM) ppusa: i can email rules (11:05 AM) ppusa: little bit if it (11:05 AM) Orprepus: will check i have access to retro (11:06 AM) ppusa: something about being short at 1413 i couldn't handle (11:06 AM) Orprepus: dp you going to start a yahoo group for discusssion? (11:06 AM) elly_34: are we talking about jimmer's rules? (11:06 AM) Orprepus: lol pp (11:06 AM) dbphoenix: I'll set it up, but I don't want to be responsible for it. I already have two. (11:07 AM) hanksterr: db, the 2m called that short with a hammer at 10:16 and gravestone doji at 10:18 in hindsight (11:07 AM) dbphoenix: Sky's going to be a co-founder. So are you :0) (11:07 AM) Orprepus: lol - disclaimer -disclaimer dis claim her (11:08 AM) skyprince_1: Like in the Army..I'm a volunteer, right? (11:08 AM) ppusa: interesting to see what move next. (11:08 AM) skyprince_1: yes elly (11:08 AM) dbphoenix: It would be best if nobody were in charge. Jimmer doesn't want to be a guru. I can't blame him. (11:08 AM) ppusa: Daily looks like ready to turn down (11:09 AM) dbphoenix: That's a hell of a hammer on the 15m (11:09 AM) hanksterr: db do you get back in here (11:10 AM) Orprepus: would jimmer be interested in doing an after session chat in paltalk one day and leave it at that? (11:10 AM) elly_34: can i get an email of the rules pls ppusa? (11:10 AM) dbphoenix: If I understand the rules, you wait for a retracement and a higher low. (11:10 AM) skyprince_1: db, is this a long entry here? (11:10 AM) ppusa: who wants rules? (11:11 AM) Orprepus: not me found them on yahoo retro site (11:11 AM) dbphoenix: Again, if I understand the rules, it would be an entry if you were flat. This is something that I'd want to clarify. (11:11 AM) ppusa: are you a member orp? (11:12 AM) dbphoenix: It says that if the move were 20+, wait for a retest and a higher low (on a down move). (11:12 AM) skyprince_1: yes Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (11:12 AM) Orprepus: yes I am a member of retro - but it has been debate about being a member of the human race (11:12 AM) dbphoenix: I think the point is that you don't just fall 30 or 40 points then have a V move in reverse. (11:13 AM) dbphoenix: And with a 7pt stop, it probably doesn't pay to jump in too soon. (11:13 AM) dbphoenix: Now on the 2m, you already got that higher low. Doesn't show on the 5, tho. (11:14 AM) dbphoenix: So if you wanted to go for smaller moves, you could use a shorter TF. But then you'd have to have a tighter stop, too. (11:14 AM) dbphoenix: Anthrax on the London Bourse. (11:15 AM) skyprince_1: yes, ic (11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: If we have a template for jimmers system, we can all use demo symbol in sync and have a good discussion about it just like RT (11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: some thursday (11:16 AM) Ensign Software: buffy, roger, tom_b, and others, Oct 16th version just posted which will keep the DEMO ticks in sync with each other so the situation of buffy creeping ahead of the rest of us will not happen again (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: Oh Howards class tomorrow is going to be on using the demo symbol and how to set it up etc (11:16 AM) hanksterr: that would be great buffy (11:16 AM) skyprince_1: Good idea Buffy... (11:16 AM) dbphoenix: I doubt you could create a template since it's not mechanical. (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: can create somethng to give everyone the basics dbp (11:16 AM) Orprepus: thanks howard (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: I was waiting to find out if macd s or e and he told me yesterday (11:16 AM) Ensign Software: Oct 16th version is available NOW for download (11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: but was having fun doing the demo in sync last night (11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: so didn't get back to it (11:17 AM) elly_34: is retro going to be updated dave? (11:17 AM) elly_34: and how has retro been lately? (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks Howard - was interesting with me seeing bars ahead of u all last night though (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: you must of had many profitable paper trades LOL (11:18 AM) Orprepus: buffy you are always one step ahead of us all living where you do (11:18 AM) elly_34: buffy could u just arrange to do that during market hours please? (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: glad you could fix it though (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: arrange to do what elly (11:19 AM) dbphoenix: So what do you have so far, Hank? (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: been rambling so much don't know what you refering to (11:19 AM) Orprepus: what was the tv show where you get tomorrows paper today (11:19 AM) elly_34: be in the market a little ahead of the rest of us? (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: LOL (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: ok elly (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: good one (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks for the laugh (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: it was a good show orp - loved his kitty (11:19 AM) hanksterr: you mean points or what db (11:19 AM) dbphoenix: I think it's called something Edition. Not watching much TV this year. (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: can't think of the name though (11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: first edition (11:20 AM) Orprepus: yeah teh one with the cat - what was it call (11:20 AM) dbphoenix: Yeah. Points (11:20 AM) donsuelo: Was there a macd sell cross on the 2 min at 9:42? (11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: first edition wasn't it (11:20 AM) hanksterr: 15.5 (11:20 AM) Orprepus: Early Edition (11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: ok so before we sync tonight everyone will have to go get the new download (11:20 AM) skyprince_1: db, that "test" rule is working....kept us out of a long... (11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: that is it orp (11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: great job (11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: would of bugged me (11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: might want to be looking for one here (11:21 AM) Orprepus: you helped with the edition part - i drew a blank origninally - thought it was a good show (11:21 AM) dbphoenix: Jimmer uses sto and MACD the way you're supposed to, keeping you out of non-trending markets. (11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: I enjoyed it also orp (11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: this could be a bull flag on the 150T (11:22 AM) skyprince_1: YEs, that is where I made mistakes yesterday..I over traded. (11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: IMO Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (11:22 AM) elly_34: but does jimmer catch trending markets? (11:23 AM) dbphoenix: Easy to do, Sky. If it weren't for Schedule D, I'd probably overtrade more than I already do. (11:23 AM) skyprince_1: elly, yes it does..IMO (11:23 AM) Orprepus: just caught the big down trend move - but today i suppose to be a chop day (11:23 AM) Ensign Software: I am going to Ensign room now, if any needs any help from me, catch me over there. (11:24 AM) hanksterr: we are getting the retrace now (11:24 AM) dbphoenix: That's okay, Orp. I wouldn't mind quitting now. Done in 90 minutes. (11:24 AM) dbphoenix: Yes. Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (11:25 AM) Orprepus: good idea best way to protect profits (11:27 AM) dbphoenix: Would like to see the sto reach oversold. (11:28 AM) dbphoenix: Tho not required, I guess. (11:29 AM) dbphoenix: DMI expanding to the downside. (11:31 AM) dbphoenix: Show little bounce on the MACD. Might take that retracement bar two bars back. (11:32 AM) dbphoenix: And I do mean little. (11:32 AM) skyprince_1: Agree db Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (11:32 AM) dbphoenix: Lower high on DM- (11:34 AM) skyprince_1: ANd higher low on DM+ (11:34 AM) hanksterr: this is tricky where to enter (11:35 AM) dbphoenix: I'm looking at the 1120 bar for the buy and the 1125 for the sell. (11:36 AM) hanksterr: 1389.5 for buy and 1377.50 for sell (11:37 AM) dbphoenix: I'm using 138750 for buy. (11:38 AM) dbphoenix: If I don't fall asleep first. (11:38 AM) hanksterr: you don't go 1 tic above the bar (11:38 AM) dbphoenix: I show the top of the bar as 1387. (11:38 AM) hanksterr: mine is 1387.50 (11:39 AM) skyprince_1: volume drying up.....think I'll go for coffee... (11:40 AM) dbphoenix: Apart from datafeeds, if you compare various charting programs, you'll find that they all differ just slightly on how they calculate indicators. That's why you also have to plug in judgement. (11:42 AM) dbphoenix: I just love these explosive moves. Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (11:42 AM) dbphoenix: Good God, Bernadette Murphy looks terrible. (11:43 AM) hanksterr: she may have had chemo (11:43 AM) dbphoenix: Sure looks like it. And she's one of the few who knows what she's doing. (11:44 AM) ppusa: i have a question. I finally managed to go to retrotrader at yahoo and join group. It says membership pending. I do not see any way to enter the group. I am stuck (I think) on group page and unable to enter. Is the problem my membership has to change from pending? (11:44 AM) dbphoenix: The founder has to approve your membership. I assume that's Dave. (11:45 AM) dave_b_quik: it's wide open, db, no approval required (11:45 AM) dave_b_quik: should let you right in (11:45 AM) dbphoenix: Strange. (11:46 AM) dbphoenix: YOu may want to check the settings, Dave. Yahoo's been having some problems. (11:46 AM) hanksterr: db are you in now (11:46 AM) ppusa: what doi click on to enter (11:46 AM) dbphoenix: Yes. (11:46 AM) dave_b_quik: ok, when i set it up i specified open group, but i'll look again (11:46 AM) hanksterr: me too (11:46 AM) dbphoenix: I may wish I weren't. (11:47 AM) dbphoenix: I should probably check my groups too. (11:47 AM) hanksterr: you put your stop at 1380.50 right (11:47 AM) dbphoenix: Yes. (11:47 AM) ppusa: PnF says take out recent swinghigh then??? (11:47 AM) Orprepus: yhaoo does require you to go do admin once every 2-3 months I think otherwise they mess with it (11:48 AM) Buffy_04364: they sure can orp (11:48 AM) dbphoenix: One of the difficulties with indicators is that you can get into thinking that the indicators are controlling price, when it's just the opposite. (11:49 AM) dbphoenix: Everything still green, tho. (11:50 AM) dbphoenix: Take out the swing high, dammit! (11:51 AM) dbphoenix: :0) (11:51 AM) ppusa: once i am a member of your elitest group, willl all those links become active and that is where i will find the MACD stuff? (11:51 AM) dbphoenix: LOL (11:51 AM) dbphoenix: Just click Messages. (11:51 AM) Orprepus: pp you want me to send to you (11:51 AM) ppusa: reason i said takeout swing is to reverse 16 point PnF. after/if this happens, could go either way (11:52 AM) dbphoenix: There's one post of rules, then several Q&A. (11:52 AM) ppusa: orp, i have them (11:52 AM) Orprepus: ok (11:52 AM) Orprepus: so you got in? Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (11:52 AM) ppusa: no (11:53 AM) ppusa: hacked them yesterday (11:53 AM) Orprepus: or did someone emailed them to you (11:53 AM) dbphoenix: I'm sure it's personal, pp :0) (11:53 AM) ppusa: what? (11:53 AM) dbphoenix: That you can't get in. (11:53 AM) ppusa: that yahoo hates me? (11:53 AM) ppusa: y haha (11:53 AM) ppusa: that's the way i take it (11:54 AM) dbphoenix: What gets me is Yahoo customer service. Takes them weeks to answer a simple question, tho they rarely answer it the first try because they never bother to read the question. (11:54 AM) ppusa: got them yester by email Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (11:55 AM) Orprepus: come on let pp join in on the reindeer games (11:55 AM) dbphoenix: LOL!! (11:55 AM) ppusa: this swing high thing, IFIFIF market were to haveoutside down day, or just a nice sell off, may not be worth waiting for swing high to go (11:55 AM) ppusa: could happen from slightly lower levels (11:55 AM) ppusa: but market could also make new highs (11:56 AM) ppusa: imo daily ripe to fill gap (11:56 AM) ppusa: went long this AM 90 area, sold immediately (11:57 AM) ppusa: shorted at 1407.5, made mistake and sold 2 more at 13 (11:57 AM) ppusa: life's a bitch (11:58 AM) Orprepus: than you die and your soul goes up on the roof and you can't get it down and the game is over and everyone goes home - WHAMO (11:59 AM) ppusa: need to pay attention here. 10 tick chart said sell me (12:00 PM) ppusa: wonder what secret chart will do today (12:00 PM) Orprepus: sold 93 es - looking for ping pong (12:00 PM) dbphoenix: Out. (12:00 PM) dbphoenix: Crap. (12:01 PM) hanksterr: doesn't look too good db (12:01 PM) ppusa: didn't take profits and came back? (12:01 PM) dbphoenix: Ordinarily I would have exited when the DMI crossed, but I left it alone today. (12:01 PM) ppusa: i wasn't watching that close but 10 tick was good indicator on that (12:01 PM) dbphoenix: I think I may want to incorporate that. If you're not trending, then all you've got is the sto. (12:02 PM) dbphoenix: Now we seem to be in a range. Obvious on the 15m. Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (12:03 PM) dbphoenix: That's why we needed to get past that swing high. (12:03 PM) ppusa: dbp one of the things i have noticed (like yesterday) is there is an alternative to trending and not trending (12:03 PM) dbphoenix: Quitting? (12:04 PM) ppusa: that too but i was going to say "setting up" (12:04 PM) hafiz_nj: hi (12:04 PM) ppusa: hi (12:04 PM) dbphoenix: True. And you can always find a trend somewhere. You really have to know what you're comfortable with (12:04 PM) ppusa: as in setting up next move (12:05 PM) dbphoenix: Where do you see us going if we drop below these swing lows? (12:05 PM) reifen: either up or down :) (12:06 PM) dbphoenix: PnF giving any clue? (12:06 PM) ppusa: nope (12:08 PM) ppusa: total guess on my part but i think daily ripe to fill gap (12:09 PM) Orprepus: out with 3pts (12:09 PM) boomer_98: ppusa which gap are you talking about (12:09 PM) hanksterr: would retro still be short now, never stopped out (12:09 PM) ppusa: gap in the gap of the gap (12:11 PM) rkat: that explains it (12:12 PM) dbphoenix: One down Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (12:13 PM) ppusa: the gap in the 1337 area of the 1311 gap (12:14 PM) ppusa: i amnot basing this on anything concrete i see, just a bunch of different little things (12:15 PM) ppusa: still go higher and come down later ornot at all (12:17 PM) ppusa: nq trying to hold low (12:17 PM) ppusa: maybe secret chart says hold low, retest high and sell off late (12:17 PM) ppusa: or not at all (12:18 PM) ppusa: brb (12:20 PM) dbphoenix: Group is done. Address is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SMACDX (12:20 PM) jimmer49: db - just got back. What did you do? (12:20 PM) ppusa: number one and two reason for down is markets are trading near their 50 day ma's and monthly charts (12:21 PM) dbphoenix: Made some money. Made some money. Lost some money. (12:21 PM) jimmer49: group thing I mean (12:22 PM) dbphoenix: I just set it up. I'll transfer the posts from the retro site to the MACD site later. (12:22 PM) jimmer49: very good (12:22 PM) dbphoenix: If you've saved copies of the emails you've received and sent out, those would be helpful as well. (12:22 PM) jimmer49: gonna rethink one of the rules Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (12:23 PM) dbphoenix: We probably got some of it wrong today. Don't know if anybody's keeping a log or not. (12:23 PM) hanksterr: bbl lunch (12:23 PM) ppusa: i joined (12:23 PM) dbphoenix: But I started off in the black, so I'm happy. (12:23 PM) ppusa: probably won't let me (12:24 PM) ppusa: i'm in (12:24 PM) jimmer49: My quick review shows 3 trades - 2 winners 1 loser and +34 (12:24 PM) ppusa: who is 3rd member? (12:24 PM) dbphoenix: Don't know. Just click Members. Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! (12:25 PM) Buffy_04364: already joined dbp (12:25 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks (12:25 PM) ppusa: now 4 (12:25 PM) jimmer49: Made two errors in my tracking yesterday and left out one long and had one short in error. results down from 32 to 28.5 as I redcall (12:25 PM) ppusa: orp beat me (12:25 PM) Orprepus: I am a member NO 2 (12:26 PM) dbphoenix: I would have matched your results, jimmer, if I'd jumped the gun on the first entry. As it was, I gave up 9 points. (12:26 PM) ppusa: dbp you Phoenix. where? have friend Mesa (12:26 PM) Orprepus: tried to get the PPUSA block installed but you were too fast this time (12:26 PM) ppusa: haha (12:26 PM) Orprepus: lol (12:27 PM) Orprepus: just joking welcome your comments and thoughts (12:27 PM) ppusa: thing is i believe you (12:27 PM) Orprepus: lol (12:27 PM) ppusa: Other group not same. i got right into this one (12:27 PM) ppusa: Dave has ppusa block (12:28 PM) dbphoenix: I'm in central Phx, pp. (12:28 PM) ppusa: next time i visit friends, i call (12:29 PM) dbphoenix: I suppose at this point I could get back in. (12:29 PM) ppusa: setup trading in their living room (12:29 PM) ppusa: brb (12:29 PM) dbphoenix: Using 1220 bar. (12:30 PM) Orprepus: dbp - you made me moderator? (12:30 PM) rkat: do any of you guys trade mini sp? (12:30 PM) dbphoenix: Not yet. I'm going to wait on all that till market close. (12:30 PM) Orprepus: I got a yellow star next to my name already (12:31 PM) dbphoenix: Oh, okay. I started then stopped to get back to this. (12:31 PM) donsuelo: We call that "gold" (12:32 PM) Orprepus: or is it the brass coated lead boat anchor Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (12:33 PM) dbphoenix: OKay, done. Just don't delete the group accidentally :0) (12:35 PM) ppusa: yea and leave pp alone (12:36 PM) Orprepus: 1st order of business is to block pp (12:36 PM) dbphoenix: This is pretty weak. I'm cancelling the orders. (12:37 PM) Orprepus: brb late breakfast now that I got some profit (12:39 PM) jimmer49: smacdx long 82.5 1220 bar, trailing stop 78 (12:40 PM) dave_b_quik: ppusa, what's your yahoo handle? (12:40 PM) dbphoenix: That's pretty much what I had, but I was concerned about being snagged. I'd rather wait to see some movement somewhere before placing the orders. (12:40 PM) jimmer49: i didn't trade it personally either (12:41 PM) dbphoenix: This is what got me into trouble yesterday. I wanted to see the range broken first. It's a difficult call. (12:41 PM) jimmer49: always is (12:42 PM) jimbo_320: volume is non existant (12:42 PM) ppusa: whereas yesterday price fondled uptrending ma's and held, whereas yesterday there wasn't much momentum, therefore ma's flattened out. whereas today, price initially broke away from flat ma's, therefore now price is trading beneath blah blah (12:42 PM) dbphoenix: That's a big part of the problem. (12:43 PM) jimmer49: fondled? (12:43 PM) ppusa: sorry Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (12:43 PM) dbphoenix: Don't go there, jimmer. (12:43 PM) jimbo_320: es has provided a potential 2B top today at 1104 today (12:43 PM) ppusa: carressed (12:43 PM) jimmer49: hehe (12:43 PM) dbphoenix: Main reasons I didn't take it besides the range were that we're below the MAs and we're not trending. (12:44 PM) ppusa: looks good here back to that swing area (12:45 PM) dave_b_quik: ppusa, i don't see you on the retro group members anywhere. if you give me yr e-mail i'll try and add it from here if you want (12:45 PM) ppusa: tired of giving it al back, deer here (12:46 PM) elly_34: dave are u going to be updating retro? (12:46 PM) dave_b_quik: ya (12:46 PM) dave_b_quik: sorry about the delay (12:46 PM) dbphoenix: You do have to have a Yahoo ID in order to access the group stuff, even if you're a member. (12:46 PM) elly_34: unable to follow much of anything from here,,,been good lately? (12:46 PM) ppusa: when i go to retro "my groups" still says pending...ppusa1@hotmail.com (12:47 PM) jimmer49: Hi elly. how is Mom? (12:47 PM) dave_b_quik: db, you have to have a yahoo ID to join, but you can join by invitation without one (12:47 PM) elly_34: Hi Jimmer,,,,mom is at the dentist,,,otherwise fine thank u (12:47 PM) elly_34: going to get her momentarily (12:47 PM) dbphoenix: The invitation has instructions on how to register with Yahoo. Unless they've changed it, you can't access the files without a Yahoo ID. (12:47 PM) elly_34: in fact be back shortly (12:50 PM) dbphoenix: zippo trendo (12:50 PM) ppusa: could be SETTING UP (12:51 PM) ppusa: all charts look like a little higher but afterwards??? (12:51 PM) dbphoenix: I hope they nail these hoaxers to the wall. (12:52 PM) jimbo_320: posted es 30min chart (12:52 PM) ppusa: hoaxers? (12:52 PM) dbphoenix: These people sending powders through the mails. (12:52 PM) ppusa: well we got that one right (12:52 PM) jimbo_320: some guy got caught and got 18 months in jail for sending a packet of talcum powder to somebody (12:53 PM) ppusa: still waiting for the freeway bag (12:53 PM) dbphoenix: He ought to have to pay for the cost of the investigation as well. Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (12:53 PM) Tom_B: We had one here in Chgo where Hasmat was called out because of a green substance in the street, turned out to be gucomole (12:53 PM) dbphoenix: Arizona has started charging dumbasses for rescues. About time. Paltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end your popup blues today! Click OPTIONS on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $9.95 a year! That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!! (12:55 PM) tradeit: dave b-i have study data on the left side of the chart.Is there a way to make that window little wider,so i can see the whole #s? (12:55 PM) ppusa: guacamole (12:55 PM) Tom_B: ya, ya (12:56 PM) ppusa: had some last night (12:56 PM) Tom_B: they shuda brought chips (12:56 PM) ppusa: haha (12:56 PM) jimmer49: smacdx trailing stop now at b/e (12:56 PM) jimbo_320: inciting panic - the charge (12:58 PM) John 4242: jimmer, is "smacdx" the name of your macd system? (12:58 PM) jimbo_320: what does the x stand for? (12:58 PM) jimmer49: That apparently is the name of the yahoo group that db set up. (12:59 PM) dbphoenix: Sort of makes me think of Smack The Monkey, but what the hell? (12:59 PM) dbphoenix: The X stands for Cross. (12:59 PM) jimmer49: We could just call him Max (12:59 PM) jimmer49: x stands for cross (12:59 PM) John 4242: ok, tks (01:00 PM) dbphoenix: Or Jimmer's Sure-Fire Road to Easy Riches System (01:00 PM) jimmer49: No jimmer in name please! (01:01 PM) jimbo_320: Smax (01:01 PM) jimmer49: the S was for secret, but it no longer is (01:01 PM) jimbo_320: retro & smax - a 'nice' couple (01:02 PM) jimmer49: smax does have a nice ring to it (01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: tradeit, I can see all the numbers (01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: but not quite all of the description (01:03 PM) Buffy_04364: is that what you are refering to? (01:03 PM) dbphoenix: Unfortunately I can't change the name now. We can call it smax for short. (01:03 PM) skyprince_1: Gee, I go to coffee in low volume, and return to a nice smooth move I missed! No more coffee breaks? This is becomming to look like REAL work! Yikes! (01:04 PM) dbphoenix: Tho like I said earlier, it sounds sort of like a breakfast cereal. (01:04 PM) jimmer49: sounds good , I go for that (01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: I have posted a chart T3 showing example of strong downtrend for template Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (01:04 PM) skyprince_1: db, sorry I missed name...repeat please. (01:04 PM) dbphoenix: smax (01:04 PM) skyprince_1: thnks (01:05 PM) tradeit: yes buffy (01:05 PM) jimbo_320: what is the group called u have created dbp ? (01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: please give example of the it tradeit (01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: what is the name of indicator (01:06 PM) dbphoenix: Link is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SMACDX (01:06 PM) Buffy_04364: u using template 3? (01:11 PM) ppusa: see this 1-2-3 here 5 min chart? (01:12 PM) ppusa: everyday same time same place (01:12 PM) skyprince_1: yep (01:12 PM) ppusa: now decide which way do we go, which way do we go (01:12 PM) jimbo_320: thxs dbp (01:12 PM) ppusa: exit stage south (01:13 PM) jimbo_320: fly by night (01:13 PM) ppusa: okay auggie doggie (01:14 PM) ppusa: last 2 days short here and lose so today i better buy here and lose Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (01:14 PM) jimbo_320: lol, change you buy and sell buttons over, it works wonders (01:16 PM) skyprince_1: A forest of dojis.... (01:17 PM) ppusa: say run up further, then dddooowwwnnn (01:17 PM) ppusa: suck in some buyers (01:18 PM) skyprince_1: Lotsa buy stops there! (01:18 PM) jimbo_320: 94 es 984 nq snap (01:18 PM) jimbo_320: oop 94 nq (01:20 PM) dbphoenix: Looks like smax was right after all. (01:20 PM) John 4242: yep (01:20 PM) jimmer49: smax has been in this trade for an hour now. narrowly missed 2 stopouts (01:20 PM) dbphoenix: I saw. Still wouldn't have taken it. (01:20 PM) dbphoenix: But it's still early. (01:20 PM) jimbo_320: 800 contracts bid at 93.75 (01:21 PM) jimbo_320: big size on bid today (01:21 PM) ppusa: exact same pattern las couple days (01:21 PM) ppusa: e x a c t (01:22 PM) jimbo_320: and didnt we close at the highs on them both? (01:22 PM) ppusa: up anyway (01:22 PM) ppusa: sp today reversal day or not? (01:22 PM) ppusa: sp=so (01:23 PM) ppusa: only difference today ma's flat hour chart Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners! (01:26 PM) dbphoenix: Volume still pretty awful. (01:28 PM) ppusa: sold 94 bot 92.5 (01:28 PM) ppusa: what a waasste (01:29 PM) ppusa: imnsho - need to see whether higher or lower from here and go with it (01:30 PM) ppusa: before i think about the big shorts, i want to know markets are turning (01:31 PM) jimbo_320: should of held my 90 long (01:32 PM) skyprince_1: jimmer's system would have kept you in....with 7 pt trailing stop (01:33 PM) jimbo_320: another 1150 bid at 95 (01:33 PM) jimmer49: stop now 90 (01:33 PM) jimmer49: 92 (01:33 PM) jimmer49: entry was 82.5 (01:34 PM) John 4242: tks, jimmer (01:34 PM) skyprince_1: :) (01:34 PM) jimmer49: John, did you trade the 2m today? (01:35 PM) skyprince_1: Great day for smax today... (01:35 PM) John 4242: watched it today . . . to my chagrin Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (01:35 PM) jimbo_320: this market is showing some resilience (01:35 PM) John 4242: in this trade though (01:35 PM) jimmer49: Don't worry about it. (01:35 PM) jimmer49: Hidsight trader gets them all (01:36 PM) jimmer49: hindsight (01:36 PM) skyprince_1: jimmer....did you do an add on that continuation? (01:36 PM) jimmer49: not doing adds yet (01:36 PM) skyprince_1: ic (01:36 PM) ppusa: 10 point PnF looking like (01:37 PM) jimbo_320: i like the way smax gets in on the retracements (01:37 PM) skyprince_1: looking like ?? (01:37 PM) jimmer49: if price takes out this down bar smax is out (01:37 PM) skyprince_1: Exit rule 2? (01:38 PM) jimmer49: exit rule 2 (01:38 PM) jimmer49: so 96 sells (01:38 PM) ppusa: reversal correction pullback (01:38 PM) jimmer49: as it stands now, but bar must complete (01:38 PM) ppusa: flat here waiting for something (01:39 PM) dbphoenix: Has your fast line ticked down on your 5m? (01:39 PM) jimmer49: y (01:39 PM) skyprince_1: y (01:39 PM) ppusa: 6 tick pullback here guaranteed (01:39 PM) ppusa: 10 is maybe (01:40 PM) skyprince_1: +13.5 there...nice! (01:43 PM) skyprince_1: pp...good call! (01:43 PM) jimmer49: stopped 95 (01:43 PM) jimmer49: +12.5 (01:44 PM) skyprince_1: So jimmer....flat now...what will you be stalking? (01:44 PM) jimmer49: +46.5 on day (01:44 PM) skyprince_1: Great! (01:45 PM) jimmer49: flat here - 20 point rule needs retest (01:45 PM) jimmer49: this is the rule I think needs tweaking Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (01:45 PM) skyprince_1: ARen't you looking for a test before going short here? (01:46 PM) jimmer49: yes sky (01:46 PM) dbphoenix: I think it's a good rule, Jimmer. Worked like a charm earlier. (01:46 PM) ppusa: if don't get the 10 here, not sure where it will come from (01:46 PM) ppusa: what would really be nice is if went slightly higher then reversed down (01:47 PM) jimmer49: sometines you miss a good short with that rule too, like yesterday (01:47 PM) ppusa: nap here brb (01:47 PM) skyprince_1: And indication of test is retracemnet bar AND higher low on MACD? (01:47 PM) jimmer49: y (01:47 PM) dbphoenix: Generally, tho, you don't get V moves after a preceding move of that extent. (01:47 PM) ppusa: private chat me if you need any more sure things (01:47 PM) jimmer49: agree db (01:48 PM) dbphoenix: Don't you mean lower high? (01:48 PM) skyprince_1: Ooops! Yes, lower high (01:49 PM) jimmer49: we knew what u meant (01:49 PM) Buffy_04364: posted another template 3 chart (01:49 PM) skyprince_1: Basically, a 1-2-3 or 2b then... (01:51 PM) dbphoenix: Might be necessary to take the cue for these turns off the smaller timeframe. (01:51 PM) skyprince_1: Yes db..a little clearer.. (01:52 PM) ppusa: ru short now macd?? (01:52 PM) jimmer49: If smax had taken the short here it would have been at 95 (01:52 PM) dbphoenix: Why not? (01:52 PM) John 4242: y (01:52 PM) jimbo_320: does that 20 point rule ever get fogotten about if we enter a strong dowtrend without a retest? Or is part of the common sense rule (01:53 PM) dbphoenix: I think that to a large extent one wants to stay in if at all possible. Then he doesn't have to get into all the re-entry stuff. (01:53 PM) jimmer49: I was thinking perhaps that the 20 point rule should be inoperative if macd fast line does not get over +5 (01:54 PM) skyprince_1: So you'd call the 1:40 bar the test? (01:54 PM) jimmer49: But going to take a few more times to consider (01:54 PM) dbphoenix: That's a thought. (01:54 PM) dbphoenix: I do like the 7pt stop. But, again, a trend is pretty much required. Otherwise you're just out 7 pts. Paltalk: Subscribe to Paltalk Plus to stop the popups today! Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (01:56 PM) skyprince_1: I've been using initial crash stop of 5, then trailing of 7 once it moves 2 pts or more... (01:56 PM) dbphoenix: I like to use a catastrophe stop of at least 10. (01:57 PM) jimmer49: Not a bad idea there. Have pondered that also (01:57 PM) jimbo_320: you know we might get a retest and prove how effective that rule is.. (01:57 PM) skyprince_1: Wow...too much for me. (01:57 PM) dbphoenix: If I lose connectivity, there's less chance that I'll be filled in the wrong direction. But, even if I am, the drawdown can't be more than ten points. (01:58 PM) dbphoenix: As soon as it's filled, tho, assuming I'm still connected, I then adjust the stop. (01:59 PM) jimmer49: would be nice to get 2 small up bars here, then down (01:59 PM) jimbo_320: jimmer does the fast now have to cross over the slow and retrace back to the slow give another long entry signal ? (01:59 PM) dbphoenix: Blow out the candles afterward. (02:00 PM) jimmer49: yes Jimbo (02:00 PM) jimbo_320: and the next short on just the retracement to the slow ? (02:01 PM) jimmer49: everyone remember, this is a work in process (02:01 PM) jimmer49: ideas welcome (02:01 PM) dbphoenix: I should think that the short signal just given would reset the clock on the 20pt business. (02:01 PM) jimbo_320: heres your retest (02:01 PM) dbphoenix: Stopped out. (02:02 PM) jimmer49: now we have a cross (02:03 PM) guenter8: Any news? (02:03 PM) jimmer49: not liking how this situatin matches up with rules (02:03 PM) jimmer49: could have argued for a continuation entry long (02:04 PM) jimmer49: if entering long due to macd cross should wait for this bar to comlete, but it is an awful long bar (02:04 PM) jimmer49: have thought about some sind of rule about long bars (02:05 PM) jimmer49: sind=kind Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (02:06 PM) dbphoenix: Well, that bar poked thru the swing high, so there should be some power following this retradement. If there isn't, wouldn't want to be in the trade. (02:06 PM) jimbo_320: 2 big vol spikes on those 97 tests, otherwise poor volume (02:07 PM) thenaz_2: afternoon guys and gals (02:07 PM) skyprince_1: hello (02:08 PM) Buffy_04364: hi naz (02:08 PM) thenaz_2: you doin anygood today? (02:08 PM) thenaz_2: buff (02:08 PM) Buffy_04364: posted a few charts with notes on using the signals on template 3 (02:08 PM) Buffy_04364: might want to take a peek (02:08 PM) thenaz_2: ahhhhhhhh ok (02:08 PM) jimmer49: so by the rules we have not yet taken out that 1400 bar hi, so no long yet (02:08 PM) skyprince_1: CAn't enter long here...top 1/3 of BB, right? (02:09 PM) Buffy_04364: also dave working on folder with explaination and other examples (02:09 PM) thenaz_2: great (02:09 PM) Buffy_04364: goign to have a link to systems off of main page eventually (02:09 PM) dbphoenix: Everything else looks good. I'm going to go ahead and take it. (02:09 PM) Buffy_04364: take long or short dbp (02:09 PM) thenaz_2: that would be dandaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay (02:09 PM) Buffy_04364: glad u like the idea (02:10 PM) dbphoenix: Long. (02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: trying to make it easy to find (02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dp (02:10 PM) thenaz_2: its good for everyone i think. huh (02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: have divergence so be careful for a bit (02:10 PM) thenaz_2: thats the spirit. he he (02:10 PM) dbphoenix: Not filled yet, tho. (02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: good (02:11 PM) jimmer49: indicators making lower high, price made higher high - so far (02:11 PM) jimmer49: and macd crossing to downside (02:11 PM) thenaz_2: yep (02:11 PM) thenaz_2: macd (02:12 PM) thenaz_2: i have my macd set @4,11,6 (02:12 PM) Buffy_04364: that is what mine did jimmer (02:12 PM) jimmer49: so sell would be 96 as it now stands (02:12 PM) thenaz_2: has already crossed on a 1 minute (02:13 PM) jimmer49: did I just see 96? (02:14 PM) jimmer49: smax is short (02:14 PM) thenaz_2: dow macd crossing down also (02:14 PM) jimmer49: taking short break here (02:14 PM) hanksterr: this look like an ernmor trap (02:15 PM) skyprince_1: hank..enmor? A new term I missed in my reading? Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (02:16 PM) thenaz_2: jimmer you short @96? (02:17 PM) hanksterr: sky, I am just guessing, buffy and others can really tell (02:17 PM) TradinStar: thenaz he said taking a break (02:17 PM) hanksterr: basically it is a fakeout of a breakout (02:18 PM) jimbo_320: great rule that 2b rule jimmer (02:18 PM) thenaz_2: ahhh ok trad (02:18 PM) jimbo_320: :=) (02:19 PM) dbphoenix: What 2b rule? I missed that. (02:19 PM) skyprince_1: I missed 2b too? (02:19 PM) guenter8: target of that 2B on the 5min is soon achieved (EMA 20) (02:19 PM) skyprince_1: Oh, I get it.... (02:19 PM) jimbo_320: 20+ rule (02:20 PM) thenaz_2: short from 98 here (02:20 PM) skyprince_1: You mean re-test rule...4a rule... (02:20 PM) thenaz_2: out @93 (02:20 PM) dbphoenix: I'm afraid you lost me. We now have a 2B on the 5m, tho. (02:20 PM) ppusa: got the 10 point PnF reversal (02:20 PM) thenaz_2: played off top of bb. (02:20 PM) dbphoenix: I'm short from 1394. (02:21 PM) thenaz_2: 96 was a good call. (02:21 PM) guenter8: TICK under 0 now (02:21 PM) Orprepus: back (02:21 PM) thenaz_2: nice db (02:21 PM) thenaz_2: hittin bottom of bb now be careful (02:21 PM) dbphoenix: What the system calls for, tho, and what's possible aren't always the same thing. (02:24 PM) dbphoenix: Still helps to know what the system would have done, if tho you may not be able to do it. (02:24 PM) dbphoenix: even tho. Paltalk: Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners. (02:25 PM) ppusa: yea looks like retest attempt then ??? Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (02:26 PM) dbphoenix: EVerybody who wants a short, clap your hands. (02:26 PM) jimmer49: smax is short from 96 (02:27 PM) Orprepus: smax - is the name - sounds like a new drug (02:27 PM) Orprepus: the profit drug (02:27 PM) skyprince_1: stop 96.5 (02:27 PM) dbphoenix: I said it sounded like a kid's cereal. (02:29 PM) jimmer49: smax is in the money based on trailer (02:29 PM) Orprepus: sorry just heard huey lewis song while driving back from breakfast (02:30 PM) ppusa: exact same as yesterday..i could get use to this (02:30 PM) jimmer49: 20 point rule in play at 82.5 (02:31 PM) thenaz_2: man that 94 short lookin pretty good whoever that was. he he (02:31 PM) ppusa: little o'sold here (02:31 PM) dbphoenix: Now at BE *sigh*. Now to make up for that trade I talked myself in to. (02:32 PM) jimmer49: smax gonna break 50 on the day on this one (02:32 PM) ppusa: dbp did you go long on the break of 1400? (02:32 PM) dbphoenix: Don't jinx it, jimmer. (02:33 PM) dbphoenix: Yes I did, pp. (02:34 PM) hanksterr: that was the ernmor trap db (02:34 PM) ppusa: usually when one PnF reverses goes higher then comes back to reverse the longer term of the two (02:34 PM) ppusa: worked perfect today (02:34 PM) ppusa: after the 6 point drop (02:35 PM) dbphoenix: No, I'm sorry, I didn't. I went short at 13:50 and got stopped out on the upside. Didn't go long. (02:35 PM) ppusa: it's nice that the pattern today was close to identical toyester soi could practice trading yesterday again today (02:35 PM) skyprince_1: Classic 2nd swing high of 2b...that's what kept me out... (02:36 PM) ppusa: classic 1-2-3 up there 15 minute Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (02:36 PM) dbphoenix: Now that I look back on it, that was pretty stupid. (02:37 PM) jimmer49: No one else here has ever done anything stupid - lol (02:37 PM) ppusa: tick charts looked like one more leg too but i am not intellligent enough to put the whole thing together as fast as i would like (02:37 PM) dbphoenix: That's what I get for trying to fix lunch and trade at the same time. (02:37 PM) skyprince_1: Second leg down approaching... (02:37 PM) jimmer49: stop 93 (02:38 PM) ppusa: yesterday same thing and still rallied into close (02:38 PM) ppusa: if dies, must die right here (02:39 PM) skyprince_1: Test of LOD would be nice... (02:39 PM) dbphoenix: Next time I go to New Orleans, I'm going to have to pick up some dolls. (02:39 PM) ppusa: get me one (02:39 PM) ppusa: la femme francais (02:40 PM) koes_1: jimmer are you trading nq today or S&P (02:40 PM) ppusa: stop shouting (02:40 PM) skyprince_1: koes...we hear ya (02:40 PM) jimmer49: nq (02:40 PM) koes_1: thanks , sorry (02:41 PM) ppusa: kiddin' ya (02:41 PM) skyprince_1: New paltalk....got to learn to drive it... (02:41 PM) jimbo_320: bears have bigger vol today (02:41 PM) dbphoenix: I declined the upgrade. Any reason why I should want it? (02:41 PM) ppusa: okay die here (02:42 PM) ppusa: fonts, underlines, bold, italics (02:42 PM) ppusa: and video (02:42 PM) dbphoenix: Hope so. This is the swing low. (02:43 PM) ppusa: flat and staying flat (02:43 PM) jimbo_320: IS THERE ANYBODY HERE ? (02:43 PM) dbphoenix: So, jimmer, do we exit here and go long? (02:43 PM) Hollie_: lol (02:43 PM) ppusa: nO (02:44 PM) jimmer49: could go long on aticipatory basis at 93 stop - a little discretion may be needed on that (02:44 PM) ppusa: triangle again hour chart (02:44 PM) skyprince_1: New toys boys? (02:44 PM) jimbo_320: speak up (02:45 PM) ppusa: could go short anticipating 1100 nq (02:45 PM) jimbo_320: LITTLE THINGS... (02:45 PM) dbphoenix: This is what I hate about non-trending markets. The signals get all bolloxed. (02:45 PM) skyprince_1: pp...could happen.... (02:45 PM) jimmer49: survived another squeaker looks like (02:45 PM) skyprince_1: IBM reports tonight./..AOL tomorrow...these will move the market. (02:45 PM) ppusa: orp knows but wouldn't tell me (02:46 PM) gunner-: merlin astro calls for late move up today.. FWIW (02:46 PM) Orprepus: becasue it has too Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (02:46 PM) ppusa: range in or whack in last 1/2 hour (02:46 PM) donsuelo: Little Lords FONTleroy (02:46 PM) Orprepus: pp you didn't ask nicely (02:46 PM) jimbo_320: explains the low vol today skyprince (02:46 PM) Orprepus: pp secrect chart says .... (02:47 PM) Orprepus: oh nuts (02:47 PM) skyprince_1: Yeah jimmer...that 7 pt trailing stop seems perfect...often goes to 6.5 and then heads back.. (02:47 PM) dbphoenix: ha ha. Resistance at the swing low. (02:47 PM) Richard_: coiling for a break (02:47 PM) ppusa: what's wrong with i wanna know and i wanna know now (02:47 PM) TradinStar: gunner what is merlin astro web address (02:49 PM) Richard_: up (02:49 PM) gunner-: TradinStar just a trader who has been doing prediction studies for some years. (02:50 PM) jimmer49: rats out 93 (02:50 PM) TradinStar: No site Gunner? (02:50 PM) dbphoenix: Out. Good grief. (02:51 PM) dbphoenix: So try again at the top of this bar? (02:52 PM) jimbo_320: that last pop, interestingly the dow moved up big before the futures moved up big, dont often get signals like that (02:52 PM) gunner-: Tradin I put you on my pallist, will send you something after RTH (02:52 PM) Merkur_: Hi (02:52 PM) jimmer49: discretion would have leaned also toward stop & revers to enter long at 93, based on o/s stochastic, but if not already preset then there would nto have been time before price got into upper 1/3 of bb (02:53 PM) jimmer49: +3 on short and +49.5 day (02:53 PM) dbphoenix: That's why it's so important to test this stuff in real time. (02:54 PM) TradinStar: thanks Gunner (02:55 PM) dbphoenix: ADX still seems to be a good filter for these trades. Paltalk: Your friends are just a click away! Press the invite button NOW! (02:55 PM) dbphoenix: Unless one just loves sitting here all day. (02:56 PM) Richard_: how do you use ADX here? (02:56 PM) jimmer49: since I don't personally do sar entries, I'm going to say smax flat here (02:56 PM) dbphoenix: It's been declining. (02:56 PM) jimmer49: but smax may kill me for that Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (02:57 PM) Richard_: what timeframe do you prefer? (02:57 PM) dbphoenix: I'm using 5m (02:57 PM) Richard_: thanks (02:57 PM) ppusa: Orp, secret chart triangle (02:59 PM) jimbo_320: sold half +4 es (02:59 PM) jimmer49: By the way, if anyone is waiting for my calls to enter, I'm not going to do this all the time. It distracts from my own trading too much. (03:00 PM) lullabud: What charting are you using jimmer, seems like your macd crosses efore mine (03:00 PM) lullabud: before (03:00 PM) jimbo_320: see if we can take out 97 (03:01 PM) jimmer49: using Nextrend macd4,11,6 expo (03:01 PM) dbphoenix: No, we're not. But we're always interested in what you're doing. (03:01 PM) jimmer49: I know you aren't db (03:01 PM) Orprepus: pp if 60 take out last 60m high new hod likely? (03:01 PM) lullabud: ok ty (03:02 PM) dbphoenix: lullabud, do your signals shift as the bar is being formed? (03:02 PM) lullabud: yes (03:03 PM) dbphoenix: May just be a difference in datafeed. Or your program might do the calculations slightly differently. (03:03 PM) lullabud: im using ravenqute with qfeed (03:03 PM) dbphoenix: Jimmer, about the group. Participate as much or as little as you like. It's just a resource. (03:03 PM) ppusa: Orp, triangle don't know (03:04 PM) jimmer49: Nextrend has a data panel on the side of the chart that shows precise values of the indicators. I go by the data when the macd lines are very close (03:04 PM) ppusa: if same pattern tomorrow, i think i have a good chance of getting it right (03:04 PM) Orprepus: triangle got it (03:05 PM) ppusa: Only thing secret chart good for is showing up gaps (03:05 PM) jimbo_320: :-) tommorrow will be the fakeout day... (03:06 PM) ppusa: 2 narrow range days = nr7??? (03:06 PM) jimmer49: macd flirting with cross Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (03:07 PM) jimmer49: tempted to invoke common sense rule and stay out (03:07 PM) elly_34: how is smacx or whatever we are calling it for the day jimmer? (03:07 PM) jimmer49: but that might seem like cheating (03:07 PM) jimmer49: +49.5 elly (03:08 PM) jimbo_320: jimmer nextrend - it is a pain you cannot see the two numbers as they are overlaid when close (03:08 PM) elly_34: u posting the results anywhere jimmer? u know per trade etc? (03:09 PM) jimmer49: posted detail of fridays's trades on yahoo groups retro website. Not ready to commit to doing it every day. (03:10 PM) jimmer49: Rather concentrate on getting it right than worrying about daily details (03:11 PM) donsuelo: OBV on daily(during recent consolidation) seems to be forecasting downturn (03:11 PM) jimbo_320: take it out u know u want to... (03:11 PM) ppusa: last week, same chop monday and tuesday. wednesday opemned down and straight up (03:13 PM) ppusa: what is OBV? (03:13 PM) Richard_: on balance volume (03:13 PM) Richard_: accumulates running volume, up versus down bars (03:14 PM) jimbo_320: dow is moving up well but es not following (03:14 PM) Richard_: some people prefer OBV over watching volume. (03:15 PM) SkipH: jimmer-is there a place to find the smacx rules? (03:15 PM) jimbo_320: at last.. (03:15 PM) ppusa: i'm having a good day today -$20.00 (03:16 PM) elly_34: lol (03:16 PM) jimbo_320: hod here we come... (03:16 PM) Orprepus: pp I liked my secret chart call (03:16 PM) jimmer49: smax foiled from entering long by the long bar at 1445 (top 1/3 rule). Another argument for some kind of rule about long bars. Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (03:17 PM) Richard_: boom (03:17 PM) jimbo_320: when the move came it came BIG (03:17 PM) ppusa: yes Orp (03:18 PM) ppusa: but now what? (03:18 PM) Richard_: the usual (03:18 PM) jimbo_320: VHVB (03:19 PM) jimbo_320: 1080 ticks (03:19 PM) Orprepus: new hod possible? (03:19 PM) jimbo_320: 08 trin (03:19 PM) jimmer49: actually, if smax had enterd long at 93 he would have been stopped out for 1.5 loss (03:21 PM) Orprepus: posted tick daily -check the macd Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. (04:19 PM) Buffy_04364: I plan on teaching with it and thursday discussion might be simulated RT for retro (04:19 PM) Buffy_04364: lots of possiblities with it (04:19 PM) Buffy_04364: do not need a data feed to run it (04:19 PM) Buffy_04364: can keep your own charting package Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (04:19 PM) TradinStar: I have ensign and dtn (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: then you have the demo symbol (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: need to go get version posted today though (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: come have fun with us (04:20 PM) Hollie_: is dave having meeting on retro trading soon...or on a different subject? (04:20 PM) Ensign Software: as buffy has said upgrade to today's version and join in the DEMO simulation feed this afternoon with several who are going to do so. (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: he is going to answer ? on retro and should be here to do so (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: glad to see you (04:21 PM) Buffy_04364: Hi howard (04:21 PM) Buffy_04364: I have it (04:21 PM) Ensign Software: do buffy, did you continue with same seed from yesterday and let her run all day today?? (04:22 PM) Hollie_: only have tradestation, do I need ensign for demo (04:23 PM) rich012: yes (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: yes hollie you do (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: can try it for 30 days for free :-) (04:23 PM) QSuzy: buffy.....just got workspace & template.....thanks a bunch!.....got it up now. (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: do not need a data feed to run demo (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: great suzyQ (04:23 PM) dbphoenix: Is this going to be a discussion of retro or a discussion of Ensign? (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: both until we in sync I guess dbp (04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: won't take long (04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: is dave here (04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: can still answer ? (04:24 PM) dbphoenix: So without Ensign, there's nothing to be gained from teh discussion? (04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: will be a bit before all have download (04:24 PM) hagen1: db ... we're supposed to be talking retro at 4:30 ET (04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: ]thanks hagen (04:24 PM) Buffy_04364: retro discussion is not going to include ensign at this time (04:24 PM) hanksterr: dbp how did you do today on smax (04:24 PM) rich012: Is there a new Ensign since my download this morning? (04:25 PM) Buffy_04364: what date do you have (04:25 PM) dbphoenix: Just 23.5. But I didn't take all the trades. (04:25 PM) Buffy_04364: should be todays date (04:25 PM) rich012: ok, I have 10/1`5 (04:25 PM) dbphoenix: I was mostly interested in how it behaves. (04:25 PM) rich012: will get update (04:25 PM) Buffy_04364: k (04:25 PM) hanksterr: wow, 8.5 only (04:26 PM) dbphoenix: I'm not sure I would have taken that very first trade at 90 (04:26 PM) Ensign Software: the repaint loop that Tom_B could exercise with his workspace ran smoothly today, as expected, using new version after I worked on that issue yesterday (04:26 PM) Buffy_04364: my crosshairs don't disappear as often either howard (04:27 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (04:27 PM) dbphoenix: If I had, that would have been 9 extra points. Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! (04:27 PM) Buffy_04364: looks like still running from last night howard (04:27 PM) Tom_B: howard getting "abstract error" on new dwnload (04:27 PM) Ensign Software: no, version posted this morning shows Oct 16th on the Help About Ensign Windows title plate and is the only version posted today (04:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 45480 (04:27 PM) Ensign Software: hi roger (04:27 PM) latkinso: Hi Buffy (04:27 PM) Buffy_04364: hi latkinso (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: that is a new one on me tom (04:28 PM) latkinso: Did you miss me? (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: hi GT (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: of course how are you doing (04:28 PM) Tom_B: it's my job :) (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: oh oh did roger talk (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: didn't hear him (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: sound check plse (04:29 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone talking? (04:29 PM) rich012: don't hear anyone (04:29 PM) rich012: what do I need to do to get the demo running (04:29 PM) Buffy_04364: howard will walk us through it rich (04:29 PM) larrybf_1: nothing Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (04:30 PM) rich012: k (04:30 PM) Buffy_04364: new stuff tonight regarding procedure (04:30 PM) Buffy_04364: I think (04:30 PM) Buffy_04364: can anyone hear me? (04:30 PM) hagen1: no buffy (04:30 PM) QSuzy: no (04:30 PM) Ensign Software: n (04:30 PM) latkinso: Hi again, I was bumped (04:30 PM) : brb (04:30 PM) rich012: n (04:31 PM) Tom_B: y (04:31 PM) Ensign Software: y (04:31 PM) QSuzy: y (04:31 PM) ridgefrm: yes (04:31 PM) hagen1: ok ... so voice works for some of us at least (04:31 PM) Buffy_04364: can anyone hear me now (04:31 PM) latkinso: no (04:31 PM) hagen1: no (04:31 PM) Ensign Software: n (04:32 PM) QSuzy: no (04:32 PM) Ensign Software: y (04:32 PM) Buffy_04364: going to reboot (04:32 PM) Buffy_04364: I can hear latkinso (04:33 PM) rich012: I don't have a mic....can someone else try a voice check (04:34 PM) hagen1: . (04:35 PM) jam_27: If we downloaded last night , do we need to download again, Howard? (04:36 PM) TradinStar: there is a 10/16 date on mine Jam that I just downloaded (04:36 PM) QSuzy: jam....I downloaded this morning and version has been updated since then.....should have Oct 16 version (04:36 PM) TradinStar: now what file exactly do we need to open in there anyone know (04:36 PM) Ensign Software: optional. last night saw that difference in operating system could cause creep in the time stamps used for demo and buffy was faster and crept ahead of the rest of us in seeing ticks before the rest of us in the DEMO symbol. Oct 16th implemented a change in the DEMO time stamps so we will all STAY in sync with each other. (04:37 PM) Ensign Software: ok, click on menu SetUp | Simulation in Ensign Windows (04:37 PM) Ensign Software: 1) Uncheck the RUN check box (04:37 PM) ppusa: does anyone know what settings smacdx is using on EW Bollinger Bands? (04:37 PM) Ensign Software: 2) Enter 60000 as the price we are all syncing to (04:37 PM) dbphoenix: 8 and 1.8 (04:37 PM) Ensign Software: 3) Select Days of Yesterday (04:38 PM) Ensign Software: 4) Click the RESET button (04:38 PM) hanksterr: y (04:38 PM) hagen1: We're waiting for dave to go over some retro charts, right ? (04:38 PM) TradinStar: Nope didnt hear you LOL (04:38 PM) QSuzy: loud & clear (04:38 PM) Ensign Software: 5) Close the form after you see the RESET button recheck itself (04:38 PM) hagen1: yes Buffy (04:38 PM) ridgefrm: yes (04:38 PM) Buffy_04364: yahoo (04:38 PM) Buffy_04364: am I behind on all this (04:39 PM) Buffy_04364: :-( (04:39 PM) Buffy_04364: thought they were going to make me get version 4 for a minute there (04:39 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dave Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (04:41 PM) Buffy_04364: lost you (04:41 PM) hagen1: great dave (04:41 PM) ppusa: DBP - EW has 2 settings windows, Multi and Ave. Are you saying the Average would be 8 bars and Multi (whatever that is) currently default setting of 2 should be changed to 1.8? (04:41 PM) Tom_B: Buffy i had a lot of prob with PTalk today.. (04:41 PM) Buffy_04364: stand dev (04:42 PM) Tom_B: had to get 4 (04:42 PM) hanksterr: looking forward to your class buffy (04:42 PM) dbphoenix: I don't know what multi is. The avg is 8 and the s.d. is 1.8. That's all I can tell you. (04:43 PM) Ensign Software: Multi means multiplier factor so 1.8 is 1.8 times the Standard Deviation (04:43 PM) Orprepus: multi=SD (04:43 PM) Buffy_04364: tks howard (04:44 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, did you resync yet using the new version?? (04:44 PM) TradinStar: oh that is great (04:44 PM) Orprepus: Like this Howard (04:45 PM) Ensign Software: do you have the 16th v? (04:45 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (04:45 PM) Orprepus: dp you ew (04:45 PM) Snoop TA: is dave b quick still coming in today? (04:45 PM) Buffy_04364: 45310 (04:45 PM) Buffy_04364: yes he is (04:45 PM) Buffy_04364: doing the retro charts now (04:45 PM) Ensign Software: don't what you to have an advantage of a crystal ball over the rest of us (04:45 PM) Orprepus: dave is here - he is doing retro update (04:45 PM) Orprepus: Early Edition (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: you are ahead of us, (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: so please resync yourself (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: go to SetUp | Simulation (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: uncheck RUN (04:46 PM) hanksterr: 45120 (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: type in 60000 price again (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: Days = Yesterday now (04:46 PM) Buffy_04364: k (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: click RESET (04:46 PM) Ensign Software: wait for RUN to recheck (04:47 PM) Ensign Software: close form (04:47 PM) Ensign Software: they will take longer to build (04:47 PM) Buffy_04364: will do again (04:47 PM) Ensign Software: reopen workspace with your demo (04:47 PM) Ensign Software: but we will be in sync and will stay in sync today, and charts will show Central time on the bottom (04:47 PM) Buffy_04364: drat forgot to close all charts (04:47 PM) Ensign Software: even through you are in Eastern zone (04:47 PM) TradinStar: ok then where do I open a file or what am I to see (04:47 PM) TradinStar: sorry so dumb on this stuff (04:47 PM) Orprepus: howard no difference for day session vs no day session (04:48 PM) Ensign Software: DEMO is a 24 hour symbol (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: ok has anyone verified (04:49 PM) hanksterr: howard do you need to close all charts (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: 45460 (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: 45470 (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: 45460 (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: 50 (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: 60 (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: 45430 (04:49 PM) Buffy_04364: 40 (04:49 PM) Ensign Software: assuming you have done the sync suggestion to generate a chart data set from yesterday morning midnight, (04:49 PM) Ensign Software: all you need do tradinstar is open a chart using the symbol DEMO (04:49 PM) TradinStar: I did (04:49 PM) Ensign Software: youcan add DEMO to the chart panel list for easy access to DEMO (04:49 PM) Orprepus: did the setup like you wrote (04:49 PM) hanksterr: 45420 (04:50 PM) TradinStar: it isnt working right I dont believe (04:50 PM) Ensign Software: DEMO chart may take longer than usual to open because it is building bars for 2 days now. 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Click Here ========================================== (04:50 PM) TradinStar: my prices are changing but it is not charting (04:50 PM) TradinStar: I opened it intraday charts (04:50 PM) Ensign Software: k tradinstar (04:51 PM) Ensign Software: double click the demo chart background (04:51 PM) Ensign Software: tell me the market hours showing on the left side (04:51 PM) Orprepus: Howard on 4m chart - moves from 19;00 to 7:24 next day (04:52 PM) TradinStar: 1st open 7:20 1st close 14.00 (04:52 PM) hanksterr: 45580 (04:52 PM) hanksterr: 455600 (04:52 PM) Ensign Software: orprepus, double click on the chart background and tell me the market hours on the left side (04:52 PM) Ensign Software: ok, this is the solution for the hours issue (04:52 PM) Ensign Software: click menu SetUp | Market Hours (04:52 PM) Ensign Software: select @CASH on the left hand side (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: change the Sync time to be 00:00 (04:53 PM) Orprepus: howard I have 7:20 1st open and 1st close 19:00 (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: 1st open time 00:00 (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: 1st close time 24:00 (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: no time for 2nd session (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: then close the form (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: close and reopen the chart (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: and it will use the new hours posted for @Cahs (04:53 PM) Ensign Software: @Cash (04:54 PM) Buffy_04364: should I do that too howard (04:55 PM) elly_34: and me? (04:55 PM) Orprepus: Howard still shows 19:00 for 10/15 than 7:24 for 10/16 (04:55 PM) Buffy_04364: all of us (04:55 PM) Ensign Software: I suspect you already have it that way (04:55 PM) hanksterr: set at cash now (04:55 PM) Ensign Software: quick way to check is double click the demo chart, and see the market hours being used on the left side of the property form (04:55 PM) Buffy_04364: no 80-018:59 (04:55 PM) Orprepus: do I need to do the sync again (04:55 PM) elly_34: oh dear i have to leave,,,,gonna leave this window open (04:56 PM) Buffy_04364: k elly (04:56 PM) Orprepus: howarde market hours are 00:00 to 24:00 in prop page (04:56 PM) Ensign Software: k, orprepus, you are all set (04:56 PM) TradinStar: I have sync 0:00 and 1st open 00:00 and 1st close 24:00 (04:57 PM) Ensign Software: is DEMO updating a chart for you orprepus? (04:57 PM) Ensign Software: that is correct tradin star (04:57 PM) Orprepus: but time of window not showing 24hrs Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. (04:57 PM) TradinStar: I have 3 equal bars (04:57 PM) Orprepus: going to resync in sim after resetting market houts (04:57 PM) Buffy_04364: what TF are you all using (04:57 PM) Orprepus: 4m (04:57 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (04:58 PM) Buffy_04364: that should work np (04:58 PM) Ensign Software: ok, good idea orprepus, use Price 60000 Yesterday Random click Reset button (04:58 PM) TradinStar: and current is 57200 (04:58 PM) Ensign Software: then reopen the demo chart (04:58 PM) QSuzy: Howard....must we change any settings back for trading in RTH tomorrow? (04:58 PM) Orprepus: howard thats the fix (04:58 PM) TradinStar: it was on Daily (04:58 PM) Ensign Software: no (04:58 PM) Orprepus: reset market hours and than do sync in sim (04:59 PM) rik88: no charting but price movement (04:59 PM) Ensign Software: yes orprepus (04:59 PM) Buffy_04364: ok so change day session to 00:00 for the open and 24:00 for the close under day session then resync? (04:59 PM) Ensign Software: yes buffy (04:59 PM) Orprepus: and no data for overnight (04:59 PM) Ensign Software: right (05:00 PM) Orprepus: howard have you tried selecting day session only? (05:00 PM) Buffy_04364: so zeros in evening session and check day session only (05:00 PM) Buffy_04364: ? (05:00 PM) Roger Schelling: Posted "market hours "screen, RogerSAH2.gif, hope it's right (05:00 PM) Orprepus: not a good idea Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (05:00 PM) Orprepus: buffy i just left evening session blank (05:00 PM) Orprepus: no data (05:00 PM) dbphoenix: Is the retro discussion still on? (05:00 PM) Ensign Software: Day Session Only box is unchecked (05:00 PM) Ensign Software: leave 2nd session boxe blank (05:01 PM) Orprepus: but if you check - watch out (05:01 PM) Ensign Software: wait orprepus, takes time to rebuild chart (05:01 PM) Orprepus: ok will wait (05:01 PM) Buffy_04364: blank or zeros (05:02 PM) Orprepus: have lines on far right side (05:02 PM) Orprepus: but nothing else (05:02 PM) Orprepus: still waiting (05:02 PM) Ensign Software: 2nd session hour boxes for @Cash have them blank (05:02 PM) Orprepus: yes (05:03 PM) gullly: http://www.fancast .com live emini scalps every day all day GullysPlace in sound (05:03 PM) Orprepus: no bars across screen (05:03 PM) Orprepus: brb (05:03 PM) TradinStar: Hi gullly (05:03 PM) Orprepus: got to go - so no day session on demo right now (05:03 PM) gullly: hi TS (05:04 PM) Buffy_04364: ook orp (05:04 PM) Buffy_04364: take care (05:04 PM) dbphoenix: Is the retro discussion still on? (05:04 PM) Buffy_04364: yes dave must not be through with chart (05:04 PM) TradinStar: I have 4480 now (05:04 PM) TradinStar: is that closer (05:05 PM) elly_34: if i get kicked,,,will someone be saving the retro dialogue? i have to go with Mom (05:05 PM) dbphoenix: Guess I'll have to wait for the next one. (05:06 PM) TradinStar: we are doing this with a mercury retrograde lovely (05:06 PM) Buffy_04364: dave isn't through the charts yet I guess (05:06 PM) elly_34: will u be saving this dialogue buffy? (05:07 PM) Buffy_04364: yes if paltalk doesn't mess me up again (05:07 PM) elly_34: well i am leaving this open but her isp is very iffy (05:07 PM) TradinStar: oh I like that time and date following my cursor around (05:07 PM) TradinStar: cool (05:07 PM) elly_34: nq moving up (05:11 PM) Buffy_04364: ok so we are all in sync? (05:11 PM) Buffy_04364: elly what price are you (05:11 PM) TradinStar: how would one know Buffy? (05:12 PM) hanksterr: 4480 (05:12 PM) QSuzy: my price is 44710 (05:12 PM) hanksterr: 4470 (05:12 PM) TradinStar: opps (05:12 PM) TradinStar: 44700 (05:12 PM) TradinStar: 4790 (05:12 PM) Tom_B: 44620 (05:12 PM) TradinStar: it isnt charting properly I dont think (05:12 PM) hanksterr: 4460 (05:12 PM) TradinStar: I have longgggggggggg bars (05:12 PM) elly_34: iam not syncing up buffy cause i have to go (05:12 PM) Buffy_04364: new low right Qsuzy? (05:12 PM) TradinStar: real long (05:12 PM) Buffy_04364: with you guys (05:12 PM) QSuzy: y Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (05:13 PM) Buffy_04364: ok elly (05:13 PM) Buffy_04364: np (05:13 PM) elly_34: buit leaving the window open so see u all later-bye (05:13 PM) TradinStar: my bars are from the price you are mentioning to 0 (05:13 PM) Buffy_04364: brb (05:14 PM) TradinStar: Help Ensign Software that cannot be right what have I done wrong (again) (05:14 PM) dave_b_quik: retro chart/stats are posted (05:15 PM) hanksterr: thanks dave (05:16 PM) ann_87: thanks DAve (05:18 PM) Hollie_: you post is est time, correct dave (05:18 PM) gullly: did you know if you buy every day emini at 9.40 and cut loss tight on last bar you get the moves we had this morning 15 times a month (05:19 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, hollie (05:20 PM) ridgefrm: gully....so that is about a 75 % trade ?? (05:21 PM) Buffy_04364: tradinstar are you fixed yet (05:21 PM) TradinStar: no (05:21 PM) TradinStar: ES is working with me on it (05:21 PM) Ensign Software: go on (05:21 PM) Ensign Software: i am working with him privately (05:21 PM) Buffy_04364: good (05:21 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (05:21 PM) Buffy_04364: you are in great hands (05:21 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (05:22 PM) TradinStar: :) (05:22 PM) Orprepus: say that again gully (05:23 PM) Orprepus: buy at 9:40 and what (05:23 PM) gullly: im quiet as morgue...:) Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (05:23 PM) gullly: Oh that..yes we buy at fixed time every day and today you see why and yesterday too (05:23 PM) hanksterr: gully sounds like something to go back and look at, any other tips (05:23 PM) QSuzy: Buffy.....did I understand that you were running the DEMO simulation and real time data today at the same time? (05:24 PM) hanksterr: I did, q (05:24 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (05:24 PM) gullly: yes if you wish to scalp and win ever single day with $0 stops try and find me at fancast live in sound all day every day,also into 1.0est and into 3.0 every day thay fit (05:25 PM) QSuzy: Hank....how?....I thought that SetUp/Connection had to be set at No Connection. (05:25 PM) Buffy_04364: not anymore (05:25 PM) Buffy_04364: with new version (05:25 PM) Buffy_04364: they both run together now (05:25 PM) QSuzy: OkieDokie.....need to change that setting back...tx' (05:25 PM) Buffy_04364: as of last nights version really (05:25 PM) Buffy_04364: isn't that great! (05:26 PM) Buffy_04364: is someone talking again and I can't hear? (05:26 PM) QSuzy: no one talking, buffy (05:26 PM) Buffy_04364: tks (05:26 PM) Buffy_04364: dave trades against the trend really hurt retro don't they (05:27 PM) Buffy_04364: looking at the chart (05:27 PM) Buffy_04364: still not a bad day (05:27 PM) dave_b_quik: sometimes buffy (05:27 PM) Buffy_04364: always there when trend kicks in (05:27 PM) rich012: gully, you keep a track record posted of your trades?? Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. (05:27 PM) Buffy_04364: yes! (05:27 PM) gullly: try tarding trend lines 10min bars NQ 20-40 points every day (05:27 PM) Buffy_04364: I can (05:27 PM) Buffy_04364: TL are good to use gullly (05:28 PM) Buffy_04364: I use them all the time (05:28 PM) gullly: yes i do but we do it in live sound in time for you to watch so who needs arecord :) (05:28 PM) Buffy_04364: have examples posted at website (05:28 PM) Buffy_04364: that is what we are hoping to do with the demo gullly (05:28 PM) gullly: depends where you draw em where you enter and what stiops and times of day (05:28 PM) Buffy_04364: will be testing it out with people this weekend (05:28 PM) rich012: Gully, u mean no record posted of trades for us to go back and see? (05:28 PM) Buffy_04364: howard is holding a class on it tomorrow (05:28 PM) gullly: Yes for 12 years (05:29 PM) rich012: gullym, you charge for your site? (05:29 PM) Orprepus: so buffy what your demo at now (05:29 PM) Buffy_04364: 44330 (05:29 PM) Buffy_04364: 44350 (05:29 PM) Buffy_04364: 44370 (05:29 PM) Buffy_04364: 44390 (05:29 PM) Buffy_04364: 44400 (05:29 PM) rich012: Or are you going to charge for your site? (05:29 PM) gullly: no i give away 18years of skill and wins all day every day fro free..:) (05:29 PM) Buffy_04364: examples of my type of TL that I use are in the buffy folder and others have posted theirs under daily (05:29 PM) Orprepus: where did you get 44nnn (05:30 PM) Buffy_04364: ? (05:30 PM) Buffy_04364: 44400 (05:30 PM) rich012: Wow, gully...you are da man!! (05:30 PM) gullly: bye look for me at fancast.com its free tomorrow and we will agin talke 20points from nayday that comes in same places (05:30 PM) Orprepus: my numbers at 70, 60 80 (05:30 PM) rich012: Free, tomorrow. Then what?? (05:30 PM) Buffy_04364: 44? (05:30 PM) Buffy_04364: or 43? (05:31 PM) hanksterr: 44410 (05:31 PM) tradeit: buffy 609340 with todays version 850 now? (05:31 PM) Orprepus: I do not have any 44400 nubmers (05:31 PM) gullly: you pay me 25%..:)BUT you MUST tarde (05:31 PM) rich012: Oh, so it is not free> (05:31 PM) rich012: DArn gully, I was hoping u were the holy grail!! (05:32 PM) TradinStar: 60000 (05:32 PM) QSuzy: 60000 (05:32 PM) Ensign Software: no, 600 00 like $600.00 (05:32 PM) hanksterr: golly gully (05:32 PM) rich012: U said free earlier (05:32 PM) TradinStar: lol on opps (05:32 PM) coaster_9: gullly what is your URL? (05:33 PM) gullly: To be a good tarder you must dig it out..look anywhere gully LOL Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (05:34 PM) hagen1: dave ... I must have lost voice ... how long ago did you start ? (05:34 PM) tradeit: buffy is your trade around 890,900,50 now? (05:34 PM) TradinStar: I have bars now (05:34 PM) TradinStar: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh shooot (05:34 PM) TradinStar: I had bars (05:34 PM) hagen1: yes ... now I can (05:34 PM) Buffy_04364: no it is around 44280 (05:34 PM) TradinStar: now I have dojis to 0 (05:34 PM) hagen1: have you been speaking this whole time ? (05:34 PM) dave_b_quik: no, just now (05:35 PM) hagen1: oh good :-) (05:35 PM) TradinStar: didnt fix it rebooting Ensign Software scratching head (05:36 PM) TradinStar: is it the scale that is out of wack (05:36 PM) Orprepus: Always make money (05:36 PM) rich012: u guys be wary of trading with that guy gully (05:36 PM) rich012: He has been around for awhile. He will make you a small fortune in futures..... (05:36 PM) rich012: that is if u start out with a large fortune! (05:37 PM) rich012: He is a troller...troller for suckers (05:37 PM) TradinStar: shoot I can do that by myself Rich (05:37 PM) rich012: Just a warning to all of you (05:37 PM) rich012: nuff said (05:37 PM) dave_b_quik: thanks, rich (05:37 PM) hagen1: ok dave, can we walk though the day today ? (05:37 PM) ann_87: dave are you speaking? (05:37 PM) Orprepus: coming into our friendly for free chat - where we help each other out learning to fish - don't really appreciate the tuna boat promise (05:38 PM) rich012: How do we get the demo synched? (05:38 PM) dave_b_quik: did you hear buffy, ann? (05:38 PM) ann_87: if so i have no sound (05:38 PM) ann_87: no (05:38 PM) ann_87: i will sign on again (05:38 PM) Buffy_04364: ok what I said was this (05:38 PM) dave_b_quik: ok (05:38 PM) Buffy_04364: this weekend and some thursday night maybe we will be using demo (05:39 PM) Buffy_04364: I have a template 3 that you can trend trade or scalp with (05:39 PM) hagen1: yea :-) (05:39 PM) Hollie_: yes please (05:39 PM) Orprepus: sure dave (05:39 PM) Buffy_04364: would like to teach everyone how to read it (05:39 PM) ridgefrm: yes (05:39 PM) Buffy_04364: if you want the workspace and template 3 (05:39 PM) havsp: howard got friend ensign downloaded trying to run demo his only has a few bars not like mine with a full page how do i get his to fill in i put yesterday and 60000 in mine should his be checked today or yesterday also all time frames are ticking except 3 min it is not keeping up (05:39 PM) Buffy_04364: please email me at unicorn@ctel.net (05:40 PM) Buffy_04364: yesterday should be checked (05:40 PM) Buffy_04364: bring 3m into focus and click on the chart default scale (05:40 PM) havsp: ok (05:40 PM) Ensign Software: havsp, his sync should be Yesterday (05:41 PM) Buffy_04364: may work (05:41 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry howard (05:41 PM) Ensign Software: also, his problem might be market hours related (05:41 PM) havsp: ok (05:41 PM) Ensign Software: I am adding for Oct 17th version a force of the market hours so that will not be a difference for some. all will have 24 hour days (05:41 PM) Buffy_04364: with just the 3m not keeping up? (05:42 PM) Buffy_04364: great howard (05:42 PM) Buffy_04364: one thing for sure (05:42 PM) Buffy_04364: we are getting closer and closer to all being perfect with it (05:42 PM) Buffy_04364: great test doing it in here (05:42 PM) havsp: thanks (05:42 PM) dbphoenix: I may be missing something, but rather than have two discussions going on simultaneously, wouldn't it make more sense to have the Ensign discussion in the Ensign room? (05:43 PM) Ensign Software: k bye (05:43 PM) Buffy_04364: one is typing and one is talking np here (05:43 PM) Buffy_04364: I want to hear retro too (05:43 PM) gullly: you will get raped on breakout entries these days.even 15mins its mugs game gotta buy sell from bottom or top (05:43 PM) Buffy_04364: is it a problem for others (05:43 PM) Buffy_04364: if so will go (05:44 PM) ann_87: dave i am hear for retro (05:44 PM) ann_87: yes Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (05:45 PM) hagen1: you mean #2 got stopped out on retest of high of the inside bar ? (05:46 PM) hagen1: As #3 is going your wa y..... (05:46 PM) hagen1: how do you keep lowering stop ? (05:47 PM) hagen1: So on that big move down, were you moving the stop down to the top of the prior 5 minute bar ? (05:50 PM) ann_87: sorry dave (05:50 PM) ann_87: on trade 3 were you trailing the 5 min (05:50 PM) ann_87: as coming to a test? (05:51 PM) ann_87: sorry dave what low? (05:51 PM) ann_87: or what time from day b/4 (05:51 PM) QSuzy: ann.....looks like it was a test of low at 3pm yesterday on 5min.... (05:52 PM) ann_87: thats ok if a prob. (05:52 PM) hagen1: how did you tighen your stop .... high of poke bar ? 3 ticks above something ? (05:52 PM) ann_87: no prob dave (05:52 PM) ann_87: so dave (05:52 PM) ann_87: retro is not worried about (05:53 PM) ann_87: testing prev day's swing highs (05:53 PM) ann_87: when short? (05:53 PM) ann_87: i.e. 93 level (05:53 PM) ann_87: so at that pt trails immed on 5 min? (05:54 PM) hagen1: how did you tighen your stop .... high of poke bar ? 3 ticks above something ? (05:54 PM) ann_87: but in this instance? (05:54 PM) TradinStar: no sound hagen (05:54 PM) ann_87: seems could have been support? (05:54 PM) ann_87: 93 area? Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (05:55 PM) ann_87: he wouldn't have been stopped out , only asking to find out if he would trail on 5 because of htat 93 (05:56 PM) ann_87: is anyone speaking? (05:56 PM) ann_87: if so i lost sound (05:57 PM) dave_b_quik: talking (05:57 PM) ann_87: yea can hear (05:57 PM) ann_87: sorry just paranoid as i lose sound all the time (05:57 PM) hagen1: dave .... Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (05:57 PM) hagen1: when you saw 'stopped out' ... you mena stopped for for -5 from entry, cause even trade gets stopped out (05:58 PM) hagen1: (can't spell) (05:59 PM) hagen1: Since all trades good and bad get stopped (some because you've moved stops) .... you wait for a breakout when you have 2 stopped out trades of -5 ... or any two negative trades at all (say -5 and - 2) (05:59 PM) ann_87: dave why was he allowed to take trade six (05:59 PM) ann_87: if tri broke to south? and he had 2 losses in a row (06:00 PM) hagen1: ok ... thanks (06:00 PM) ann_87: as six was a buy? (06:01 PM) ppusa: TF trade 6 (06:01 PM) ppusa: Time of trade 6 (06:01 PM) ann_87: bummer it reversed up right where he got stoppedo ut on six (06:02 PM) ann_87: dave (06:02 PM) ann_87: why on trade six did he trail on 5 immed? (06:02 PM) ann_87: as i see your stop is tight? (06:03 PM) ppusa: you know macd uses bollinger band rule that might filter those (06:03 PM) ann_87: yes (06:04 PM) hagen1: exit #6 was also a stop becuase of a break of an iside bar, no ? kinda 2 things saying stop at the same place (06:04 PM) ppusa: promotion (06:04 PM) ann_87: hagen i don't see inside bar? (06:04 PM) ann_87: dave can you go over that 2b again? on that trade...sorry not getting it? (06:04 PM) ann_87: i.e understanding it (06:05 PM) hagen1: ok .... gotcha Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (06:06 PM) ann_87: ok i think i got it now (06:06 PM) hanksterr: pokes trendline (06:06 PM) ann_87: yes (06:06 PM) ann_87: so first we need to test (06:06 PM) ann_87: and then you wait for next bar to complete beforeyou raise? (06:06 PM) ann_87: or do you raise it as you are testing? (06:06 PM) ppusa: 1-2-3 corrections hit stops (06:07 PM) hanksterr: 2b needs some kind of confirmation (06:07 PM) ann_87: i think you are doing a fantastic job dave (06:10 PM) ann_87: why could he not take the 15 min bar prior on 7? (06:11 PM) ann_87: ok (06:11 PM) ann_87: as he now had 3 losses? (06:12 PM) ann_87: sorry dave on 7 how did he trail his stop? (06:14 PM) hagen1: yep (06:14 PM) ann_87: yes (06:15 PM) hagen1: when the inside bar broke long .... did you move your stop up for the 1st contract ? (06:16 PM) Hollie_: pyrimid up Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (06:16 PM) laniermasters: I've had sound off. Which chart on dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart shows the trades. I can't figure it out. Thanks. (06:16 PM) hanksterr: dave do you take every break over retracement (06:16 PM) ann_87: dave the high of 10:30 am... was htat not an important swing... to test...so retro would have trailed on 5 at that pt? (06:17 PM) hagen1: so the '10' contract would have a stop 3 ticks below the inside bar ? (06:18 PM) ann_87: the 15:40 bar hit 1412 (06:18 PM) laniermasters: okay, thanks! (06:18 PM) ann_87: and am bar was 1411 (06:18 PM) ann_87: asking if that is a reason for retro to tighten (06:18 PM) ann_87: no.. (06:18 PM) ann_87: just a swing (06:18 PM) ann_87: high (06:18 PM) ann_87: not the highest high (06:18 PM) ann_87: no (06:18 PM) ann_87: no ....it is the second high (06:18 PM) ann_87: yea (06:19 PM) ann_87: 07.50 (06:19 PM) ann_87: .. and would have gotten out earlier (06:19 PM) ann_87: was just curious of rule (06:20 PM) ann_87: yea (06:20 PM) hagen1: so the '10' contract would have a stop 3 ticks below the inside bar ? and then would the '10a' contract have a stop 5 points from entry ... menaing you might have stop different stop for the two contracts ? (06:21 PM) ann_87: retro still made good money today (06:22 PM) hagen1: you didn't get in a '10b' contract on the break of the regression bar becuase it was past 3:45 ? (06:22 PM) ann_87: we now have a 2b of range from the close (06:22 PM) ann_87: today (06:23 PM) ann_87: and from 10/11 (06:23 PM) ann_87: sort of.... (06:23 PM) LB20: Thanks for going over the retro trades for today....bye (06:24 PM) ann_87: thanks for all your work dave (06:24 PM) hanksterr: thanks dave (06:24 PM) John 4343: tks, dave (06:24 PM) ann_87: you are great! (06:24 PM) fredrickson: thanks dave :) (06:24 PM) QSuzy: dave....thanks.... (06:24 PM) dave_b_quik: my pleasure, good night all (06:24 PM) hagen1: thanks dave .... very helpful (06:24 PM) Hollie_: thanks dave (06:25 PM) hagen1: nice voilin in the background :-) (06:25 PM) x21r: thanks dave (06:25 PM) fredrickson: good night (06:25 PM) tradeit: got in late but got it,thnks Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (06:27 PM) Tom_B: tnx dave Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (06:28 PM) kber: Hagen, are you still here? (06:29 PM) kber: I have no sound, so have to write your answer. (06:30 PM) x21r: 16-10 (06:34 PM) Orprepus: GT you still around Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (06:50 PM) hagen1: hey kber (06:54 PM) Buffy_04364: hi all (06:54 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone sync'd with demo (06:55 PM) Orprepus: I am here (06:55 PM) Orprepus: yes thanks for the 60000 (06:55 PM) Orprepus: 43520 (06:55 PM) Orprepus: 570 (06:56 PM) Orprepus: 580 (06:56 PM) Orprepus: no (06:56 PM) Orprepus: where is it at (06:56 PM) Orprepus: not going to mess my charts up again (06:56 PM) Orprepus: is it (06:56 PM) dave_b_quick: i had to log on with another computer, my wife is doing her homework on the other one (06:57 PM) Orprepus: I am gun shy (06:57 PM) Orprepus: yes remember I still have a roger and buffy chart (06:57 PM) Orprepus: ok will try (06:57 PM) Orprepus: orprepus@home.com (06:58 PM) dave_b_quick: dave what? (06:58 PM) coaster_9: Buffy, I don't think I'm getting Template3 to run right (06:58 PM) dave_b_quick: i posted them in the ensign/templates folder Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! (06:58 PM) coaster_9: I get Dunnigan and volume that's all Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (07:00 PM) coaster_9: October 16th (07:00 PM) Orprepus: phone (07:00 PM) coaster_9: yes (07:00 PM) coaster_9: You emailed me (07:00 PM) coaster_9: Saved in Study (07:01 PM) coaster_9: you had it as a .dat file, but my other files do not have .dat extension (07:01 PM) coaster_9: workspace did (07:01 PM) coaster_9: 4,1, and 7 tick (07:01 PM) coaster_9: yes (07:02 PM) Orprepus: got it buffy (07:02 PM) coaster_9: yes there is more there (07:02 PM) coaster_9: how many what (07:02 PM) coaster_9: 2 monitiors (07:04 PM) coaster_9: delete .dat extension (07:04 PM) Orprepus: buffy how many charts in demoema1 (07:05 PM) coaster_9: i have templates setup (07:06 PM) coaster_9: If I click none I get a lot of studies (07:06 PM) coaster_9: Stochastics, alerts, colour bars (07:07 PM) Orprepus: tick 300, 150, 75, 50, 30, 7 1m & 4m (07:07 PM) Orprepus: you use all of these to trade (07:08 PM) coaster_9: If I click on Template 3 I get Dunnigan and nothing else Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (07:09 PM) coaster_9: Did that but did not get .dat extension (07:17 PM) dave_b_quick: working on it now... (07:18 PM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2001-10-16/buffy-T3%20exp%20strong%20downtrend3.gif (07:19 PM) dave_b_quick: paltalk has live links in the new version Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (07:20 PM) dave_b_quick: not sure (07:23 PM) Buffy_04364: it takes a while to get used to it (07:24 PM) Buffy_04364: just on the generalities for now Paltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end your popup blues today! Click OPTIONS on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $9.95 a year! That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!! Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (07:31 PM) lifeng: I just come here, what are we looking now? (07:32 PM) lifeng: How can I get there? (07:32 PM) Buffy_04364: http://www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com/charts/2001-10-16/buffy-T3%20exp%20strong%20uptend%20and%20divergence4.gif (07:35 PM) Orprepus: buffyism (07:36 PM) GGriz: Orp you still here? (07:37 PM) GGriz: anyone here? (07:39 PM) Buffy_04364: hi ggriz (07:39 PM) Buffy_04364: 73 (07:40 PM) Orprepus: yes around (07:40 PM) Orprepus: PM him Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (07:41 PM) Orprepus: sorry (07:41 PM) Orprepus: had PT covered (07:42 PM) Orprepus: waht tf (07:42 PM) Orprepus: what time frame (07:42 PM) Orprepus: have up trend (07:43 PM) Orprepus: coaster you show dn trend (07:44 PM) Orprepus: not me (07:44 PM) Orprepus: resynching (07:45 PM) Orprepus: I had up trend (07:46 PM) Orprepus: got it (07:46 PM) hanksterr: buffy I have that (07:46 PM) hanksterr: yes looks same (07:47 PM) hanksterr: 50T (07:47 PM) Orprepus: loading - give me 3m (07:47 PM) hanksterr: buffy,that wspace didnt work (07:47 PM) Orprepus: 8charts (07:47 PM) hanksterr: yes (07:47 PM) hanksterr: it is there (07:47 PM) hanksterr: same ext as others .mac (07:47 PM) hanksterr: right (07:48 PM) Ensign Software: if you save it to the folder, you have to exit and rerun to have it show on the list (07:48 PM) Orprepus: match - bingo (07:48 PM) Ensign Software: discovery of workspaces added to a folder is done only on the rerun of EW (07:48 PM) hanksterr: okay will try (07:48 PM) Orprepus: got any threes (07:49 PM) Ensign Software: are you doing DEMO now? (07:49 PM) thenaz_2: im lookin (07:49 PM) tradeit: buffy for some reason the demo stalled.On "connection"under data feed says "idle" (07:49 PM) Ensign Software: are you staying in sync today? (07:50 PM) Ensign Software: tradeit, idle shows until you get a symbol on the feed (07:50 PM) thenaz_2: makin sure i stay connected right now. (07:50 PM) hanksterr: got it (07:50 PM) Ensign Software: do not need to do anything with connection (07:50 PM) tradeit: 44140 still? (07:50 PM) hanksterr: 43560 (07:50 PM) Orprepus: loaded buffy workspace and template - close ew and opened - but did not resynch (07:50 PM) Ensign Software: all enabled on the RUN check box on the SetuP | Simulation (07:50 PM) Orprepus: resynched and match (07:51 PM) Ensign Software: did you close workspace before resyncing? (07:51 PM) Ensign Software: k (07:51 PM) Orprepus: yes I did Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (07:51 PM) Orprepus: buffy repost (07:51 PM) Orprepus: I will also (07:52 PM) Ensign Software: for tomorrow, will force market hours of 00:00 to 24:00 so hours on @CASH no longer a source of difference (07:52 PM) Orprepus: me too - think we might be a little off (07:52 PM) Ensign Software: does the Simulation form need an instruction to Close All chart windows first? (07:52 PM) Ensign Software: as a reminder? (07:53 PM) Orprepus: different (07:53 PM) Ensign Software: k (07:53 PM) Ensign Software: close windows (07:53 PM) Ensign Software: click menu SetUp | Simulation (07:53 PM) Ensign Software: uncheck RUN (07:54 PM) Orprepus: close - but different (07:54 PM) Ensign Software: enter price 60000 (07:54 PM) Ensign Software: select Yesterday (07:54 PM) Ensign Software: leave Random alone (07:54 PM) Ensign Software: click Reset button (07:54 PM) Ensign Software: wait for RUN to recheck (07:54 PM) Ensign Software: close form (07:54 PM) Ensign Software: reopen workspace (07:55 PM) hanksterr: looks good (07:56 PM) Orprepus: have default settings (07:57 PM) Orprepus: for color (07:57 PM) Ensign Software: yes, go to SetUp | Charts and compare 4 colors (07:57 PM) Orprepus: oHHHH (07:58 PM) Ensign Software: what are your 4 color sequence buffy (07:58 PM) Orprepus: no (07:58 PM) hanksterr: new low (07:58 PM) elly_34: is this everything i need to know howard or ?.....i have not been around last few days consistantly (07:58 PM) hanksterr: y (07:58 PM) hanksterr: y (07:59 PM) Orprepus: now new low 380 (07:59 PM) hanksterr: cool Paltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners! (08:00 PM) Orprepus: on the 18:58 bar (08:00 PM) coaster_9: y (08:00 PM) coaster_9: 18:57 for low (08:00 PM) Ensign Software: I cannot get you any more in sync, especially if YOUR COMPUTER clocks are different (08:00 PM) Orprepus: win98 se (08:01 PM) Ensign Software: I will say when it goes to :59 (08:01 PM) Ensign Software: ready set (08:01 PM) Orprepus: 19:00 now (08:01 PM) Ensign Software: NOW at :59 (08:01 PM) coaster_9: exact (08:01 PM) Ensign Software: opr you are 1 minute ahead of me (08:01 PM) Ensign Software: and thus you should have 60 ticks more than me, but I will yet get those 60 ticks Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (08:02 PM) thenaz_2: ok what is the first thing i need to do here to look at what you all are looking at. i think im stayin on for a while. i hope. (08:02 PM) Ensign Software: Now :00 (08:02 PM) Orprepus: 01 here (08:02 PM) coaster_9: 01 here (08:02 PM) Ensign Software: ok, I am behind, never mind me (08:03 PM) Orprepus: loww was 43360 (08:03 PM) Ensign Software: this machine has not been on esignal for a few hours (08:03 PM) Orprepus: 02 (08:03 PM) Ensign Software: i am 1 min behind (08:04 PM) Ensign Software: my problem not yours (08:04 PM) thenaz_2: just when you get time. np (08:04 PM) Ensign Software: continue with your training (08:04 PM) Orprepus: 90 (08:04 PM) Orprepus: 60 (08:04 PM) Orprepus: 70 (08:04 PM) Orprepus: 80 (08:04 PM) Orprepus: price (08:04 PM) Orprepus: 570 (08:04 PM) Ensign Software: yea, real life delay here (08:04 PM) hanksterr: 04 now (08:05 PM) thenaz_2: ahh nope (08:05 PM) thenaz_2: do i need to down load something? (08:05 PM) Orprepus: 03 had big green bar (08:05 PM) rich012: How do I get my demo data in sync with yours buffy? (08:05 PM) coaster_9: y (08:05 PM) Ensign Software: ok, just ran DM and I jumped ahead a minute to catch up to match time with you (08:05 PM) rich012: y (08:06 PM) rich012: lol (08:06 PM) rich012: right (08:06 PM) rich012: yes buffy (08:06 PM) Ensign Software: rich do you have Oct 16th version of EW (08:06 PM) rich012: howard, yes (08:06 PM) Buffy_04364: saw the mike flicker howard but didn't hear you (08:06 PM) Buffy_04364: did you talk? (08:06 PM) elly_34: can u type it pls,,,mine is still downloading,,ty (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: close windows (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: click menu SetUp | Simulation (08:07 PM) Buffy_04364: hi elly (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: uncheck RUN (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: enter price 60000 (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: select Yesterday (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: leave Random alone (08:07 PM) Buffy_04364: is that a dog barking howard? (08:07 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: click Reset button (08:07 PM) Ensign Software: wait for RUN to recheck (08:08 PM) Ensign Software: close form (08:08 PM) Ensign Software: reopen workspace (08:08 PM) Ensign Software: I am using CTRL key to cut and paste instructions from the form (08:08 PM) Ensign Software: faster than retyping (08:09 PM) Ensign Software: not a dog barking, was an Idaho CAT (08:10 PM) elly_34: is this just for today? or for each day select yesterday with that number? (08:10 PM) hanksterr: great (08:11 PM) elly_34: nice (08:11 PM) elly_34: excellent (08:11 PM) elly_34: perfect (08:11 PM) Orprepus: so I am still out of synch (08:12 PM) Orprepus: yes data manager (08:12 PM) elly_34: great and i am still at mom's so probably have to get the log (08:12 PM) Orprepus: up and running (08:12 PM) Ensign Software: just for the fun of it WE ARE in wave 4 of a minor trend, 1st main leg (08:12 PM) rich012: 44160? Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (08:12 PM) Orprepus: 44210 (08:12 PM) Orprepus: 44220 (08:12 PM) rich012: ok, I am in synch ! (08:12 PM) Orprepus: or am I a head (08:12 PM) Ensign Software: wave 5 to follow which trends more than wave 4, then head into abc minor correction which will be choppy. (08:13 PM) rich012: Got long a 2 mins ago. LOL (08:13 PM) Orprepus: 19:11 (08:13 PM) Ensign Software: I have to run to scout meetings (08:13 PM) Orprepus: 1st bar (08:13 PM) Orprepus: knots tonight right (08:13 PM) Ensign Software: see you tomorrow, bye (08:13 PM) Orprepus: see ya (08:13 PM) rich012: what t/f is being used? (08:13 PM) Orprepus: 19:12 bar (08:13 PM) Orprepus: 50 tick (08:14 PM) rich012: ok (08:14 PM) Orprepus: waht bar buffy (08:14 PM) Orprepus: 19:13 (08:14 PM) Orprepus: I have 19:13 (08:14 PM) thenaz_2: buffy i need to download ensign or no for this? (08:15 PM) hanksterr: that is 19:13 for me (08:15 PM) thenaz_2: i didnt know if it was at the site or not. (08:15 PM) Orprepus: 19:14 here (08:15 PM) rich012: Does the data skip time from 17:44 to 19:00? (08:15 PM) thenaz_2: what is the site address please. (08:15 PM) Orprepus: yes (08:15 PM) Orprepus: yes (08:16 PM) thenaz_2: nope (08:16 PM) thenaz_2: can you post that please (08:16 PM) Buffy_04364: www.ensignsoftware.com (08:16 PM) thenaz_2: thanks so much buff (08:16 PM) thenaz_2: i'll get it done (08:17 PM) tradeit: buffy thnks I'm out for while (08:19 PM) elly_34: ok i just got it,,,can u tell me where u are pls so i can see if ia m same? (08:20 PM) hanksterr: 44680 (08:20 PM) elly_34: 560 (08:20 PM) elly_34: 540 (08:21 PM) Orprepus: 447850 (08:21 PM) Orprepus: 60 (08:21 PM) Orprepus: 50 (08:21 PM) Orprepus: 60 (08:21 PM) Orprepus: 44770 (08:21 PM) elly_34: i am off then (08:21 PM) elly_34: 710 (08:21 PM) Orprepus: 19:20 (08:21 PM) Orprepus: bar now being foprmed (08:22 PM) elly_34: think i am a bit behind (08:22 PM) elly_34: bar says 1922 (08:22 PM) Buffy_04364: :-( (08:22 PM) elly_34: oh wait what time frame? (08:22 PM) Buffy_04364: 50T Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (08:23 PM) thenaz_2: what do i download after i get to ensign please? (08:23 PM) elly_34: what do the red circles mean though? (08:24 PM) Orprepus: red circles are what (08:24 PM) Buffy_04364: ok naz did you install it (08:24 PM) thenaz_2: lolyour just in to much of a demand. (08:24 PM) thenaz_2: lol (08:25 PM) thenaz_2: i go to down loads from the ensign site correct? (08:25 PM) elly_34: download the esignal version (08:26 PM) Orprepus: brb (08:26 PM) elly_34: so buffy what if it hits one green circle like it just did? (08:26 PM) thenaz_2: ok (08:26 PM) rich012: Is the tics on the demo coming at about 1 per second so that a 50 tic chart is same as 1 min chart? (08:26 PM) rich012: about the same (08:28 PM) elly_34: brb (08:28 PM) thenaz_2: thanks elly (08:28 PM) thenaz_2: downloading now (08:28 PM) rich012: How does this simulator work? Is it using some sort of past data or completely random? Can't be random...doesn't appear to be. (08:29 PM) rich012: ok, buffy Paltalk: Subscribe to Paltalk Plus to stop the popups today! Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (08:31 PM) thenaz_2: 32% he he Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (08:35 PM) rich012: buffy, u said random number generator? (08:36 PM) GordonGekko: Was that a linear congruental pseudo-random generator? (08:37 PM) rich012: sounds complicated....must be (08:37 PM) rich012: LOL (08:37 PM) elly_34: off the subject but did we have the retro talk? (08:38 PM) rich012: Gordon, is there such a thing? (08:38 PM) GordonGekko: Beats me (08:38 PM) rich012: hehe (08:38 PM) GordonGekko: or were you asking about random number generators? (08:38 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (08:39 PM) rich012: yes, random number generators (08:39 PM) GordonGekko: If random numbers, yes that is a common type of algorithm used to make them (08:40 PM) rich012: ok, as opposed to just taking a ranom number on either side of the current number (08:40 PM) GordonGekko: Before I was a trader I was a consultant in OR/IE with a speciality in systems simulation (08:41 PM) GordonGekko: Lived and died by the quality of random numbers LOL (08:41 PM) elly_34: u trade this today buffy? (08:41 PM) rich012: Buffy, how are u getting signals off the template....what are you looking at on the alerts? (08:42 PM) rich012: ok (08:42 PM) GordonGekko: hagen are you in tac's all day and here all night? (08:42 PM) thenaz_2: ok downloaded (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: yes (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: nice chart (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: lol (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: go ahead (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: go on (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: get some coffee (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: im no hurry Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (08:43 PM) thenaz_2: ok (08:43 PM) : hello (08:44 PM) : Are we all traders (08:44 PM) : ??? (08:44 PM) : would like some trading advice (08:45 PM) : ready to tell my woes (08:45 PM) GordonGekko: buy low, sell high, marry rich (08:45 PM) thenaz_2: lol (08:45 PM) GordonGekko: :-) (08:46 PM) : :-) (08:46 PM) GordonGekko: Never worked for me, love always got in the way LOL (08:46 PM) s: that'll work (08:46 PM) : already marrried poor (08:46 PM) thenaz_2: me too (08:46 PM) thenaz_2: got two college bound kids and gottta raise funds (08:46 PM) thenaz_2: lol (08:47 PM) GordonGekko: I married poor, made a bunch of money trading, got divorce and now poor again LOL (08:47 PM) GordonGekko: better to have that right person there can't be enuff otherwise (08:47 PM) GordonGekko: ouch (08:48 PM) GordonGekko: LOL, it is OK, it was only $$$, I will make it back (08:48 PM) : u shld b able to mk a lot trading again (08:48 PM) : thats right (08:48 PM) GordonGekko: yep, At least I got to keep the Porsche LOL (08:49 PM) : i been trying to be a trader but I been making to mny mistakes (08:49 PM) t: least u hv a porsche (08:50 PM) thenaz_2: lol (08:50 PM) thenaz_2: right (08:50 PM) GordonGekko: But I was not able to trade for some time after the emotional upset - rule 1 dont trade when unbalanced (08:51 PM) : thanks (08:52 PM) : if thats the case i shuld never trade (08:52 PM) GordonGekko: Cant sleep in it, maybe I should have gotten the house LOL (08:52 PM) : i traded eminis with accutrader (08:52 PM) GordonGekko: This profession is at least 85% mental (08:53 PM) GordonGekko: does anyone no accutrder? (08:53 PM) thenaz_2: buffy could you do that again lol im sorry wasnt listening. Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (08:54 PM) GordonGekko: is there any sound in here, I am not hearing anything (08:54 PM) Buffy_04364: yes there is sound (08:54 PM) GordonGekko: dang, setup problems - again (08:54 PM) Buffy_04364: I told you you were right you can not trade when emotionallyupset (08:54 PM) Buffy_04364: there talking (08:54 PM) GordonGekko: thanks buffy (08:54 PM) GordonGekko: hey don henry, made hear, just no sound (08:55 PM) Dá: what do u do here??? (08:56 PM) Buffy_04364: we trade the naz and es futures (08:56 PM) thenaz_2: buffy can you run me through to the chart now? please (08:56 PM) Buffy_04364: we have a website www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com with lots of info and chart examples (08:57 PM) thenaz_2: nope (08:57 PM) thenaz_2: havent saved anything (08:57 PM) thenaz_2: yet (08:57 PM) thenaz_2: nope (08:58 PM) thenaz_2: ahhh you know what i give you the wrong e-mail i think sorry (08:58 PM) thenaz_2: yes (08:58 PM) thenaz_2: lol (08:58 PM) thenaz_2: ok (08:58 PM) thenaz_2: ok 1 second Paltalk: Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners. (09:00 PM) amer_68: I'd like one buffy. You've got my e-mail address. (09:00 PM) Buffy_04364: pm me (09:02 PM) amer_68: sent Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (09:04 PM) thenaz_2: one second on the phone lol (09:04 PM) thenaz_2: thank you (09:11 PM) Buffy_04364: lost you on the word save (09:11 PM) Buffy_04364: can not take the room out of focus (09:12 PM) Buffy_04364: ensign should be closed (09:13 PM) Buffy_04364: click on the attachment (09:13 PM) Buffy_04364: lets do the workspace first (09:13 PM) Buffy_04364: right click (09:13 PM) Buffy_04364: click on save as (09:13 PM) Buffy_04364: click on browse (09:14 PM) amer_68: so faf so good. (09:14 PM) Buffy_04364: us up arrow folder to right of top window to get to C drive (09:14 PM) Buffy_04364: or where ensign is saved (09:14 PM) amer_68: far (09:14 PM) Buffy_04364: dbl click on ensign Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (09:14 PM) amer_68: k (09:14 PM) Buffy_04364: dbl click on macro (09:15 PM) amer_68: k (09:15 PM) Buffy_04364: click on save making sure you have the workspace folder with extension mac (09:15 PM) Buffy_04364: now do the same for the template but instead of dbl clicking on the macro folder do so on the study folder (09:16 PM) Buffy_04364: if it automatically opens to the macro folder use the up arrow and then you should see the study folder (09:16 PM) Buffy_04364: how we doing (09:17 PM) amer_68: Having a little problem, When click on macro the file name changes to one of the folders in macro. (09:18 PM) : are the ensign charts (09:18 PM) Buffy_04364: never heard of it (09:18 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm (09:18 PM) Buffy_04364: play safe and close window and start again (09:18 PM) : You mentioned ensign above (09:19 PM) : yes (09:19 PM) amer_68: Problem solved. Simply typed in DEmo (09:20 PM) : I used to use ensign with esignal and I am starting with metastock and quote.com (09:20 PM) : please repeat (09:20 PM) : please repeat (09:21 PM) : I m having trouble understanding u (09:21 PM) Buffy_04364: I left qcharts the first monday in april and never regretted it (09:21 PM) Buffy_04364: too soft (09:21 PM) Buffy_04364: ]too loud (09:21 PM) Buffy_04364: breaking up (09:21 PM) Buffy_04364: ?? (09:21 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone else having a problem understanding me? (09:22 PM) : qcharts are part of quote.com like esignal has some crappy charts also . meta Stock is like trade station. (09:23 PM) : Are u familiar with metastock (09:23 PM) Lexxx: esignal charting sucks, but the data is rock solid for TS 200i (09:23 PM) Lexxx: I agree (09:24 PM) : Not totally knowledgeaable but Metastock seems to offeer a lot more than ensign (09:25 PM) wotten: Buffy...can you explain your indicators in just a few minutes? 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(09:28 PM) Buffy_04364: have you done the file | setup | advanced sound control setting (09:28 PM) Buffy_04364: what do u use\ (09:28 PM) : where (09:29 PM) Buffy_04364: in the small pal talk window (09:29 PM) Buffy_04364: click on file (09:29 PM) Buffy_04364: click on setup (09:29 PM) Buffy_04364: click on advanced sound control (09:29 PM) Buffy_04364: is that file setup in this window (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: no Paltalk: Your friends are just a click away! Press the invite button NOW! (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: this is room window (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: in paltalk window (09:30 PM) laniermasters: Do you think I ought to download it for the simulator experience you guys have been talking about? Is it Thursday afternoon? (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: I have all but the second one checked (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: last one in unique to your setup (09:30 PM) Buffy_04364: i don't see it (09:31 PM) laniermasters: Okay great. I'm in charge of my high school reunion Saturday, so I've got tons to do in the next few days. I'll listen in tomorrow if I can. (09:31 PM) laniermaster á: advanced sound control??? (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: do you have paltalk in the task bar below (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: reread the steps please (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: do one at a time (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: need the right window first (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: not groups (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: the one that says paltalk at the top (09:32 PM) wotten: buffy...I'm ready when you are (09:32 PM) wotten: okay found it (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: not this room (09:32 PM) Buffy_04364: now do the steps (09:33 PM) thenaz_2: buffy did you get my pm? (09:33 PM) thenaz_2: lol (09:33 PM) thenaz_2: you are one busy gal. (09:34 PM) thenaz_2: had my mic off (09:35 PM) thenaz_2: hope you werent talkin to me. he he (09:35 PM) thenaz_2: sorry (09:35 PM) thenaz_2: did you get my pm? (09:36 PM) sukan: anyone talking now? I dont hear anthing (09:36 PM) Buffy_04364: sukan have you had sound working before (09:36 PM) thenaz_2: ahh ok did you send it? Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (09:36 PM) Buffy_04364: if so need to exit room and come back in (09:36 PM) thenaz_2: ok i'll check (09:36 PM) thenaz_2: ok lol (09:36 PM) sukan: only the advertisement (pop up upon starting paltalk) (09:36 PM) sukan: I m sure Howard is good but it might be worth a glance to compare metastock just for comaparison but then I don't profess to be on top of this stuff. (09:37 PM) Buffy_04364: not doing metastock (09:37 PM) thenaz_2: i bet you do good everyday in trading the nq dont you? (09:37 PM) sukan: other than than have not heard anything b4 (09:37 PM) sukan: very good now (09:37 PM) thenaz_2: lol (09:37 PM) laniermasters: Thanks, Buffy, I report on the reunion next week. (09:37 PM) Buffy_04364: could you hear me any better (09:37 PM) Buffy_04364: did you exit paltalk and re enter to change the settings (09:37 PM) Buffy_04364: i didn't tell u to do it (09:37 PM) thenaz_2: you are an efficient gal. he he (09:37 PM) thenaz_2: no doubt (09:38 PM) thenaz_2: lol (09:38 PM) thenaz_2: thats crazy (09:38 PM) sukan: i can hear now! (09:38 PM) thenaz_2: how old are you? or am i aloud to ask that? or should i? lol (09:38 PM) thenaz_2: me too (09:38 PM) thenaz_2: lol