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Click Here ========================================== Buffy_04364: chop ntil it decides what to do with the 50 and 200 ma here BrainStorm: there is life here hi Buffy Buffy_04364: hi Buffy_04364: still waking up Buffy_04364: slept a lot last 24 hours Buffy_04364: :-) Buffy_04364: posted 4m pyra BrainStorm: thats what the w/e is for FORT KNOX: Buffy, how come you use the 50 and 200 moving averages? Buffy_04364: cause everyone else does Buffy_04364: hae to know what the comptetition is looking at Buffy_04364: rule is the bulls own above 200 the bears below Orprepus: had a dream I was trading then my head bobbed and hit the desk and i woke up Buffy_04364: if it goes through the 50 it should take the 200 Buffy_04364: LOL FORT KNOX: oh, ok...thanks Buffy_04364: MA flat here too Buffy_04364: so we need to wait Buffy_04364: although pp might be trading this chop Buffy_04364: :-) Buffy_04364: oh for those of you who have ensign - I have a template of mine in the ensign folder Buffy_04364: all you need to do to have it also is to save it to ensign/study folder Buffy_04364: must have sat version Buffy_04364: well it decided Buffy_04364: ticki says selling going on Buffy_04364: BOS about 1352 BrainStorm: drifting down to test the 200 ppusa: Hey, shorted early but trading is down except through brokers so got out. Buffy_04364: hi PP ppusa: to hi ppusa: to risky through brokjers Buffy_04364: hitting a TL from somewhere though too on 150T ppusa: 1-2-3 here, go up now ppusa: i don't know, i don't care BrainStorm: I had one short too after the first up not sure if I am pleased with myself +8 but was 'gut' not too disciplined really ppusa: had talk with myself over weekend Buffy_04364: down is my guess Buffy_04364: but not in BrainStorm: first sign of madness that Buffy_04364: need to wake up more BrainStorm: Id go with down ppusa: i think good chance HOmonth last week Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== ppusa: figured open on high Orprepus: agree pp Orprepus: pp totmty ppusa: sitting on an uptrending ma here ppusa: really just waiting for certain signals and for systems to come up BrainStorm: most people use ema 50 & 200 right ? guess I should change mine from simple Orprepus: we also use 20ema Buffy_04364: yes Orp I have that up too ppusa: here's bounce, missed it by one leg BrainStorm: me too just that I prefer simple...but as an indicator of what everyone else is looking at I guess ema is better ppusa: question is HOD or LOD ppusa: let me know at end of day Buffy_04364: dave what is the team profit folder? No access to it and curious BrainStorm: HOD in Buffy_04364: still playing with MA BrainStorm: one or two more down days then maybe turn back dave_b_quik: i didn't make that one buffy, dono Buffy_04364: that is interesting Dave Buffy_04364: no one asked to do it either? Buffy_04364: hmmm Buffy_04364: ok now looking long Buffy_04364: but will see Buffy_04364: not yet Buffy_04364: needs to confirt Buffy_04364: confirm and TOS right there BrainStorm: Hmm wether to put a sell stop under the MA or wait for a retrace Buffy_04364: hate to play with MA right there Buffy_04364: so standing aside ppusa: yea if this bounce turns back down, HOD imo ppusa: but so far looks good long ppusa: 15 min iffy BrainStorm: back into the earlier congestion that drift out the bottom was not much of a test...toe in the water more like dave_b_quik: buffy, i put an index in team profit so you can see what's in there, just one chart of AEP (whatever that is) BrainStorm: enjoyed your post over the weekend jimmer...any chance of posting a few charts ? ppusa: the one very positive thing i see (the only) is nq bouncing right where should off 200 ma on 1 hour intraday chart jimmer49: Not going to post charts jimmer49: people can do own charts from info given BrainStorm: was all pretty self explanatory ...any reason (just out of idle interest) BrainStorm: yes dave_b_quik: maybe a volunteer to post charts using jimmer's rules? BrainStorm: I had a couple of interesting observations but I want to watch for a while to see if they may be valid or not Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== jimmer49: Thanks for your encouragement btw Dave, you too db dbphoenix: Well deserved. Buffy_04364: yes jimmer great discussions on retro thread jimmer49: Your comments on taking contol of clock very good also Buffy_04364: working on template for ensign with it that will also go in ensign folder Buffy_04364: if you don't mind jimmer49: not at all jimmer49: Wish I had Ensign, but my computer doesn't like it for some reason Buffy_04364: when last time you tried? jimmer49: Nextrend next best jimmer49: Several months ago. every few minutes would start flashing like astrobe light and bog down jimmer49: tech support tried for two weeks to figure out and gave up. Buffy_04364: when someone had a problem this weekend Howard help - like hours worth - turned out to be 2 winros files and a really old DM file Orprepus: howard fixed the bug just recently Buffy_04364: yes he did Buffy_04364: that is what I was working on him with that Thursday and Friday Buffy_04364: couple weeks back Buffy_04364: as I would see and he would Buffy_04364: not Buffy_04364: the fact that cpu is decked always gets his attention Buffy_04364: he doesn't like that Buffy_04364: can't get through the 200 Ensign Software: Hi, I see Paltalk has forced on us all the new version with variable fonts Buffy_04364: gee I have dodged it so far Howard Buffy_04364: morning Buffy_04364: I get to say NO Tom_B: GM Buffy_04364: should end sometime though :-( ppusa: 15 min chart couldn't turn up yet Buffy_04364: Tom has version 3 ppusa: +10 on 2 longs Buffy_04364: if you ask nice he might send it to you Tom_B: Jimmer..same problem here...should discuss sometime Buffy_04364: so Howard anymore thoughts on demo Buffy_04364: ? jimmer49: Interesting Tom, what are u using now? Ensign Software: buffy, got all the ideas implemented and changes will be welcomed by those who want to DEMO simulate on weekends or evenings Tom_B: EW Buffy_04364: jimmer has same problem as tom with the flashing I guess Buffy_04364: I don't see it so can't help Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! Ensign Software: have posted two images to dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart. go look and then I can talk about them Buffy_04364: will do Buffy_04364: only first one showing so far Tom_B: This is a head bangers mkt so far Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== Buffy_04364: and looking at it Ensign Software: tom have you had the flashing this morning? BrainStorm: this should be interesting the MA is coming to meet the congestion Tom_B: though south seems appealing for now Tom_B: no Buffy_04364: tom have you? or isn't price moving enough? Tom_B: don't think fast enough Tom_B: didn't happen at all on demo Buffy_04364: happens I think Howard when price moving fast enough so chart has to change scaling Buffy_04364: right Tom Tom_B: y, can't keep up Ensign Software: good clue, Tom CPU clock speed of your computer, please?? Tom_B: 500mz P3 Buffy_04364: this is the guy you should work with Jimmer on the problem jimmer49: Will try again when get new computer Ensign Software: humm.... that is fast. I run on 300 MHz without problem. Tom_B: 500meg ram Buffy_04364: Jimmer worked with tech support for 2 weeks and gave up Howard Ensign Software: TOM, what is symbol count on the SetUp | Manager list?? This is the number by top of list. Buffy_04364: 512 Tom Tom_B: 11 Buffy_04364: 77 here Tom_B: 7 now Ensign Software: ok, tom, let me finish with buffy, and then will work on the flash issue all morning to find what I can do differently to heal it for you and others who see it. Ensign Software: buffy, you saw posted images? Tom_B: tnx... Buffy_04364: only one and yes looking at it Tom_B: Jimmer...were u running Tick charts / Buffy_04364: might be tradeable scalp long Buffy_04364: staying flat while talking to howard jimmer49: Not when I had the problem, no Ensign Software: 2nd image posted which is just a DEMO chart Ensign Software: k, will be quick ppusa: retro long if break of current 15 min bar ??? Buffy_04364: no rush howard BrainStorm: I need another PC to play games on when the market is like this dave_b_quik: ya, scalping is an expensive game for me Ensign Software: DEMO allows you to give starting price, like before (still the seed), but optionally can give number of days of data to generate, such as 1 would be from midnight this morning, and 2 would be from yesterday midnight, etc up to 4 days back jimmer49: Seems like a total crapshoot here to me. Not trustain anything. Buffy_04364: ok but Buffy_04364: never mind go ahead Ensign Software: Delete button erases previous files, etc, so when you open a chart it builds fresh from the new tick pool for initial chart. Ensign Software: RUN will put you on line to continue updating the chart. Buffy_04364: which I need to understand more of to know when to use it ppusa: think long at bottom of next pullback Buffy_04364: on line but not connected to esignal right ppusa: retro long????????? Buffy_04364: what is phase? Ensign Software: Phase typically would be blank, but was included so you could go to certain types of markets if you wanted to focus on a kind of market. However, doing so would prevent others from resyncing with you later dave_b_quik: ya, ppusa dbphoenix: 1371 seems to be resistance on 5m for some reason. Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== Buffy_04364: so how get in sync if not at midnight? Buffy_04364: like 3 in afternoon Ensign Software: If you do not use phase, then anyone should be able to sync with you at any time and you do not need to stop running to sync with them. ppusa: tks Dave, Buffy_04364: ok howard jimmer49: One minute chart makes most sense Buffy_04364: but if someone resyncs and changes phase to blank and deletes that would bring in sync right? Buffy_04364: still don't see how to do in middle of day howard Buffy_04364: what am I missing Tom_B: HOward how about stopping in phase running & saving data to file & then going out of sync & then recalling file with seed @ 0 & picking up where u left off / Buffy_04364: will bars have common reference pt? Buffy_04364: point BrainStorm: anyone looking to get long here ? Ensign Software: all Demo bars will be timestamped with Central times regardless of which time zone you operate from BrainStorm: retro is isnt it dave ? dave_b_quik: ya, retro is long at 1371.50 dbphoenix: Bought breakout of 5m range, which is same as retro. Tom_B: this is a ppusa mkt :) Buffy_04364: ok now how do we sync if in middle of day? Ensign Software: thus, if you are in middle of afternoon and used a sync of 50000 and 1 day then anyone can join on on that same thread by entering the same price and day and DEMO will generate all prior tics to bring new person right up to the same point you are at on your chart. thus both would be in sync Buffy_04364: whould I just change mine Tom_B: why wud u run in middle of day with real time data...wudn't slow your processor dwn ? Buffy_04364: talking about a sat or sun tom Ensign Software: you would not change yours, just publish this week end's starting price and which day it is. Tom_B: k Buffy_04364: I must not be awake yet Buffy_04364: it wouldn't do until midnight for them Ensign Software: example, if on friday after market you pick for the group this weeks price will be 50075 for 1 for the day. Buffy_04364: k Ensign Software: then the thread generates from Friday morning midnight through Now. Anyone can join on Friday at any time using 50075 and 1 day. Ensign Software: then anyone can join on Saturday using the same price 50075, but now they need to enter 2 as the days to generate so we go back to the same Friday AM midnight as the starting point and generate rapidly all ticks to come current to what you are lookiing at. Ensign Software: then on Sunday, anyone can sync by using 50075 and 3 days now. Buffy_04364: great you beat me with that answer Buffy_04364: was typing the ? Buffy_04364: so it will stop when it hits the time of day we are on Buffy_04364: great Buffy_04364: can't wait to test Buffy_04364: still have to fool with No Connection? Ensign Software: for example, the chart I posted was 60000 with 4 days. So it goes back 3 full days, and today is the 4th day in progress. Ensign Software: YOU or anyone would get the same chart by entering the price of 60000 with 4 days right now, and leaving phase blank. Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== Buffy_04364: ok like the solution Buffy_04364: you came up with Buffy_04364: :-) Ensign Software: leave setting on No Connection for live updating of DEMO Buffy_04364: ok Ensign Software: could generate DEMO charts at any time, even during market hours, but they will NOT update live if connection is not on No Connection. Buffy_04364: ok Ensign Software: did not want live update of DEMO to be done during market hours when you are processing a live data feed. Buffy_04364: makes sense Ensign Software: generation of prior ticks to make the chart can be done during the market, if you so choose. Buffy_04364: well your solution is great cause it also means no more waiting for data to fill in Buffy_04364: can start with so many days Ensign Software: anyway, will work on Tom's issue, and post a new version this afternoon, and then you can download and try this sync thing and see how painless it will be now. Ensign Software: bye Ensign Software: up to 4 days start BrainStorm: cheerio Buffy_04364: bye Howard and thanks Tom_B: tnx BrainStorm: NAS +from the open Ensign Software: also, tick rate is now 1 per second so you can go back to the -50 tick and -75 tick charts and not have to use the smaller time frames you resorted to to have the same feel Buffy_04364: yahoo!!!!! Tom_B: greta Tom_B: great Buffy_04364: thank you thank you Buffy_04364: people were gringing when I said the 7t chart Buffy_04364: LOL Buffy_04364: won't have to explain why now dbphoenix: Thought about exercising a timestop there. Glad I didn't. Buffy_04364: yeah dbp we have a change of trend up up to the 3m BrainStorm: trading retro today db ? Buffy_04364: might be moving up to high TF but don't know yet dbphoenix: More or less. ppusa: i don't see any strong trends here. dbphoenix: DMI is healthy on the 5m ppusa: thinking markets might fill am gap and back down ppusa: flat here Paltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end your popup blues today! Click OPTIONS on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $9.95 a year! That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!! BrainStorm: seems a fairly reasonable proposition ppusa ppusa: referring to fill and down??? Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== ppusa: actually this bounce satisfies PnF for major sell off but ppusa: thinking nq would not have come all this way w/o taking out high ppusa: but that doesn't have to happen ppusa: if 10 pont PnF reversed here 1368, would be breaking ma's to down side ppusa: which would make me think market back to lows ppusa: and 10 point looks like probability of reversing BrainStorm: 2b on the 5 but not taken the thrust bar yet ppusa: so there is 10 point reversal. BrainStorm: probably have rouind about here ppusa: maybe a compromise scenario would be too early to sell off and go bang around the highs for awhile dbphoenix: Which are you calling the thrust bar, BS? ppusa: late day tank ppusa: i covered a short at 68 BrainStorm: long upbar 4 bars ago dbphoenix: ok BrainStorm: the one that took out the high 6 bars ago ppusa: BS tf? BrainStorm: que? dbphoenix: Do you look for that rather than dropping below the previous swing high? ppusa: long ar time frame? ppusa: bar BrainStorm: Its not a 'number one' patern fro me db just watching it until I have confidence in it BrainStorm: to be honest Im happy watching at the moment still seem pretty range bound to me and personaly I put less faith in these patterns when we are wiggling about Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== ppusa: yea taking out lows 3 times before a turn BrainStorm: very pleased to report that thanks to spaming you lot I have managed to keep my finguers out of trouble Buffy_04364: LOL brainstom (11:00 AM) BrainStorm: volume declining last hour (11:01 AM) BrainStorm: some 10 point swings wich are playable (well if you are ppusa they are) (11:04 AM) ppusa: trying to look for specific setups (11:04 AM) ppusa: happen so fast miss most (11:06 AM) ppusa: retro -5 just got stop hit??? (11:07 AM) dave_b_quik: retro is standing aside until we get out of this 5m triangle (11:07 AM) jimmer49: macd stopped out twice for very small gains, now up Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== (11:07 AM) jimmer49: 3.5 (11:07 AM) jimmer49: and flat (11:08 AM) ppusa: jimmer i take it you posted macd and if so where? (11:08 AM) jimmer49: pp it is on the yahoo groups retro website (11:09 AM) ppusa: tks, will try to find later (11:10 AM) Buffy_04364: when Howard releases the new version to make syncing so much easier, I will adjust the workspace and also post that to the website (11:10 AM) ppusa: pretty sloppy here, should have known this am cos no real definitive trends like last few days (11:11 AM) Buffy_04364: it needs to be saved in the ensign\marcro folder but will have instructions on website too (11:11 AM) Buffy_04364: then we can sync anytime - evening or weekends (11:11 AM) Buffy_04364: with great ease (11:12 AM) ppusa: what change??? (11:12 AM) Buffy_04364: it was fun Saturday with everyone looking at same thing and calling the signals (11:12 AM) ppusa: what did i miss? (11:12 AM) BrainStorm: Should have gone back to bed....more rewarding (11:12 AM) Buffy_04364: the change to everyone syncing the DEMO symbol so we are all looking at the same data at the same time (11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: looks RT even though the market is closed (11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: great confidence builder (11:13 AM) ppusa: where is demo? (11:13 AM) BrainStorm: Jimmer you listening ? (11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: it is part of ensign (11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: always has been (11:13 AM) ppusa: view demo? (11:13 AM) jimmer49: yes BS (11:13 AM) Buffy_04364: will show you how to run when market closes if you want (11:13 AM) ppusa: ok (11:14 AM) ppusa: thought tutorial but not know demo (11:14 AM) BrainStorm: I was reviewing the weekend discussion on your MACD cross (I post as Nick Ali btw) (11:14 AM) Buffy_04364: it is easy for each to run now - but the syncing with others was hard (11:14 AM) Buffy_04364: looks like RT pp (11:14 AM) Buffy_04364: might have to adjust the TF but Howard is also fixing that (11:15 AM) ppusa: RT? (11:15 AM) ppusa: i feel like i have been gone for weeks (11:15 AM) ppusa: like no comprendo anything you all are saying (11:15 AM) BrainStorm: I just wondered if you could add anything are you talking about trading the turns of the 2 min badns win choppy markets (11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: reat time (11:15 AM) Buffy_04364: the demo symbol works like market is open (11:16 AM) dbphoenix: Stopped out again. Dave's right about this triangle. (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: even though it isn't (11:16 AM) ppusa: tks BUF (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: ma flat stay out Paltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners! (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: that is what my sign says on computer LOL (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: or just scalp (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: not in mood for that today (11:16 AM) ppusa: funny Buffy i had same sign (11:16 AM) BrainStorm: so when the 5min hits a band and the 2 min trade counter ? (11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: LOL (11:16 AM) ppusa: read are MA's flat or apart? (11:16 AM) dave_b_quik: Buffy's gonna show us some scalp techniques soon Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: yep and it will be easier if we can get this sync thing going (11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: anyone with ensign will be able to see the signals develop to scalp (11:17 AM) jimmer49: Yes BS, trading 2 min BB in sloppy markets is something I often do. Like right now (11:17 AM) ppusa: now i am going to put up another says "remember, you don't have to trade" (11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: that is why working with hhoward to get it going (11:17 AM) dave_b_quik: great! (11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: that is a good one ppusa (11:18 AM) BrainStorm: do you wait fro the price to turn back into the channel ? (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: not to trade is a trading decision (11:18 AM) ppusa: there goes the sign (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: :-) (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: selling and buy8ing on the ticki (11:18 AM) Buffy_04364: will post (11:18 AM) ppusa: 3rd reteest of high (11:19 AM) ppusa: a reteest is different than a retest (11:19 AM) jimmer49: Sometimes I don't even wait, at least not longer than the very first sign of a turn (11:19 AM) Buffy_04364: done (11:19 AM) jimmer49: Just traded 1366-72 (11:19 AM) BrainStorm: I suspect the tequnique might work very well on a tick chart maybe 75 or 100 would require 'tuning' (11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: time line coming up in pyra (11:20 AM) jimmer49: I use tick chart to spot turns (11:20 AM) BrainStorm: hope in portents a move!! (11:20 AM) jimmer49: 90 tick early , then 55 when market slows (11:20 AM) Buffy_04364: nice jimmer (11:21 AM) BrainStorm: I'll look at those 75 works quite nicely for me if I miss entering a stop in I use that to try and manually get my order in (11:22 AM) jimmer49: When tradign BB pong in chop I use market. Hardly time to do otherwise. (11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: that is so true (11:23 AM) Buffy_04364: can't scalp if using stops (11:23 AM) Buffy_04364: IMHO (11:23 AM) Buffy_04364: pyra respected BOS so far (11:23 AM) BrainStorm: when I used to scalp (Im trying not too but when the market is like this....) I found that thinks would need 'tuning' to the current cycle (11:24 AM) Buffy_04364: lower high and ma still flat (11:24 AM) jimmer49: BB too narrow on 2 min now (11:24 AM) BrainStorm: stochs can work well (11:24 AM) ppusa: which one of these turns is going to be the real one (11:25 AM) Buffy_04364: jimmer are your alerts on the BB on your chart that you posted based on bottom 3rd and top 3rd or above below the average? (11:25 AM) Buffy_04364: talking about the raven quote chart I saw I think (11:25 AM) Buffy_04364: going higher? (11:25 AM) jimmer49: someone else posted that (11:25 AM) Buffy_04364: test last swing high? (11:25 AM) Buffy_04364: k (11:26 AM) Buffy_04364: so you eyeball it? (11:26 AM) ppusa: i still think fakey to up then tank (11:26 AM) ppusa: too early (11:26 AM) ppusa: brb (11:26 AM) BrainStorm: waiting for clear breakout in this corner (11:27 AM) ppusa: break to up everyone long, everyone wrong Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (11:27 AM) dbphoenix: No trend at all. (11:28 AM) jimmer49: brb (11:28 AM) BrainStorm: 5 min is sitting o the 200ma (11:28 AM) BrainStorm: slightly upward slope (11:34 AM) BrainStorm: I know if I take the rest of the day off there'll be a nice move you guys prepared to have a whip round to get me to go ? (11:34 AM) jimmer49: To get any use out of BB for this kind of trading, you must use a period shorter than the default 20. I use 8 with 1.8 std dev (11:35 AM) BrainStorm: Is that the same setting a your MACD cross ? (11:35 AM) BrainStorm: hello test of the high (11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: as said (11:35 AM) Buffy_04364: :-) (11:37 AM) jimmer49: not sure of ur ? BS (11:37 AM) Buffy_04364: stop at 80 Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: S81 (11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: moving it up with price (11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: on 75T (11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: low less 2T (11:38 AM) Buffy_04364: 2 ticks (11:43 AM) BrainStorm: not looking so strong (11:43 AM) Buffy_04364: out on lower high (11:43 AM) Buffy_04364: and divergence on indicators (11:43 AM) Buffy_04364: tom you have the template did you catch it? (11:45 AM) eemb: hi x21r Paltalk: Subscribe to Paltalk Plus to stop the popups today! Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (11:47 AM) ppusa: sold 81.5 (11:47 AM) ppusa: out Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== (11:48 AM) Buffy_04364: posted 75T and 150 T tom with arrows for signal (11:48 AM) ppusa: this market falls apart now, going short to stay (11:48 AM) Buffy_04364: temp3 sig is the name (11:49 AM) Buffy_04364: Also Tom do you think it would help to have a color band for the B line showing whether rising or falling? (11:50 AM) Buffy_04364: Others have the template that were here sat any comments? (11:50 AM) Tom_B: might try it...I saw that set up on 150 T but was not clear on 75 (11:50 AM) Tom_B: to me (11:51 AM) Buffy_04364: B line rising and short and long term stoch went below 20 and lined up (11:51 AM) Buffy_04364: on the 75T (11:51 AM) Buffy_04364: confirmed by bounce of stoch off of the Bline on 150T (11:51 AM) dbphoenix: Previous swing high being tested. (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: with it going to be easier to sync anytime we will be able to pratice together more (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: anytime we want (11:52 AM) Tom_B: great (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: can you tell I am awake today LOL (11:52 AM) Tom_B: took a while.. :) (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: what about band for the B line? (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: would it help you (11:52 AM) ppusa: what data does demo use (11:52 AM) Buffy_04364: random number generator (11:52 AM) Tom_B: would like to se it (11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: the band? (11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: for b line (11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: can add easy enough I think (11:53 AM) ppusa: if nothing else nq should return to point of breakout to get everyone out that just bot (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: Howard just posted an example of data from DEMO and RT data (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: can you tell which? (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: is which (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: told him my guess (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: LOL Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (11:58 AM) Buffy_04364: gee, you guys all had great discussions without me here - maybe I should be quiet so I will have something interesting to read instead of just my ramblings (11:58 AM) dave_b_quik: LOL ramble on (11:59 AM) dave_b_quik: your ramblings are pure gold, buffy (11:59 AM) Buffy_04364: I don't know about that Dave (11:59 AM) Buffy_04364: I thought that of others when I read the day too (11:59 AM) Buffy_04364: so guys type away (12:00 PM) Buffy_04364: Tom did you say yes to band showing direction of B line? (12:00 PM) dave_b_quik: nice 2B top on NQ 5m (12:00 PM) dbphoenix: Yes (12:00 PM) Buffy_04364: yep (12:00 PM) ispe_bc: Buffy, enjoy your comments always (12:00 PM) Buffy_04364: on 200 on 75T (12:00 PM) Tom_B: worth seeing maybe just above top of stoc/b-line study (12:01 PM) Buffy_04364: was thinking of below the band up top that gives you a visual of the trend in that time frame (12:01 PM) Buffy_04364: since it does same thing (12:01 PM) dbphoenix: DMI on the short side (12:01 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra says down (12:01 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dbp (12:02 PM) dbphoenix: There's that UTL tho. (12:02 PM) Buffy_04364: diagonal might catch it (12:02 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone want it posted (12:04 PM) Buffy_04364: BTW if anyone looked at the temp3 sig charts the circles above and below the bars tell you when to tighten stops (12:04 PM) Buffy_04364: surprsied no one asked (12:04 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (12:04 PM) Buffy_04364: brb (12:04 PM) dbphoenix: I've been using the DMI to tell me when to tighten. Works well. (12:05 PM) fredrickson: what time frame dbp? (12:05 PM) dbphoenix: 5m (12:05 PM) dbphoenix: Too slow in 15m, so I use 5m to lead (12:07 PM) fredrickson: trading off the 15 and using dmi on the 5 then? (12:07 PM) dbphoenix: Pretty much. (12:07 PM) dbphoenix: Same as with retro. Use the 5m to tell you what's coming. (12:07 PM) fredrickson: k thx Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (12:08 PM) dbphoenix: I've started bracketing entry stops off the 15m bar rather than placing an entry stop above or below and waiting for the fill to place the protective stop. (12:08 PM) dbphoenix: But using the 5m tells me which is likely to get tripped first. (12:09 PM) Buffy_04364: yep dbp that is the job of the lower TF (12:10 PM) dbphoenix: Wish the 9 and 3 worked as well, but the 3 has gotten awfully noisy. (12:10 PM) Buffy_04364: flag? (12:11 PM) dbphoenix: Days like this are the time to test those things. And indicators. When we're in a strong trend, everything works, no matter how bizarre. (12:11 PM) Buffy_04364: minute charts are too noisy for me - have them up but trade tick charts (12:11 PM) dbphoenix: Some people may be expecting ascending triangle on 15m. (12:13 PM) dbphoenix: Need to drop below this swing low on the 5 (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm bear flag is my vote (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: waiting for confirmation (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: IMHO (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: could be wrong of coure (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: remember that (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: rising B line on 50t says I just might be (12:15 PM) Buffy_04364: ahhh forgot to look at pyra (12:15 PM) Buffy_04364: time line here (12:15 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm data not changing (12:15 PM) Buffy_04364: no volume I guess (12:15 PM) Buffy_04364: there it goes (12:15 PM) dbphoenix: Push down on the arms of your chair. That should help. (12:16 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL Paltalk: Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners. (12:16 PM) Buffy_04364: trapped between 50 and 200 on the 75T Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: Roger are you watching the template real time (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: ? (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: tradeit? (12:19 PM) ppusa: covered (12:19 PM) jimmer49: Tom Daschle received ltr with anthrax Bush just said. (12:19 PM) Buffy_04364: nice (12:20 PM) jimmer49: The plot sickens (12:20 PM) Roger Schelling: hi just got back, yes Buffy watching both, short es 1083.25 at the moment (12:20 PM) Buffy_04364: hmmm tks (12:20 PM) ppusa: where is Dan? (12:20 PM) Buffy_04364: great Roger - would a color band showing the direction of the B line help you? (12:20 PM) Buffy_04364: trying to make as much visual as I can (12:21 PM) dbphoenix: I can see sending out thousands of envelopes simulataneously, but this serves no purpose. (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: so it works on the ES too? (12:21 PM) Roger Schelling: not really, that white stands out on all tf's ok (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: tks (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: any input appreciated (12:21 PM) Roger Schelling: i forgaot what the top band was this AM have not had time to restudy, was it stoc35/10 ? (12:22 PM) Buffy_04364: no it is quick visual for the trend in that TF (12:22 PM) Buffy_04364: based on WMA (12:22 PM) ispe_bc: Buffy I missed something... can you explain the temp3 chart and what the red/ green at top and bottom of window signify? (12:22 PM) Buffy_04364: I posted a signal for the NQ - hope you see same type of signals for ES (12:23 PM) Buffy_04364: the top is WMA for quick trend read (12:23 PM) Buffy_04364: the bottom bands are visual of ma on chart (12:23 PM) ispe_bc: ok see that (12:23 PM) Buffy_04364: the circles are visual of the stoch and work for telling you when to tighten stops and get out (12:24 PM) Buffy_04364: if you have ensign the template is in the ensign folder (12:24 PM) Buffy_04364: needs to be saved to the ensign\study folder (12:24 PM) ispe_bc: I won't have ensign for a week or two (12:25 PM) ispe_bc: waiting for new computer (12:25 PM) Tom_B: shrt 72 stp b/e (12:25 PM) Buffy_04364: bet you can't wait bc (12:26 PM) ispe_bc: yeah (12:26 PM) ispe_bc: can you do color bands like that for different adx levels? (12:27 PM) ispe_bc: say over 20? (12:27 PM) Buffy_04364: ok tom what TF? I wouldn't of been short that soon - was talking to howard so missed it (12:27 PM) Buffy_04364: yes you can bc Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== (12:28 PM) jimmer49: macd syst short from 80ish (12:28 PM) tradeit: buffy!!!!!!!!!!!!! do you ever sleep?-lol (12:29 PM) dbphoenix: I went short at 137550 using The Moving Window. (12:29 PM) Tom_B: 11:14 cst 75t bar (12:30 PM) Buffy_04364: I slept 14-15 hrs yesterday tradeit! (12:31 PM) dbphoenix: Difficult to decide whether to keep stops tight for hit and run or keep them wide to play the range. (12:31 PM) Buffy_04364: ok I see where you guys are now (12:31 PM) Buffy_04364: guess I was talking to howard longer than I thought (12:31 PM) dbphoenix: Guess is depends on style as much as anything else. (12:31 PM) Buffy_04364: style and PA dbp (12:32 PM) Buffy_04364: Tom I see the entry good job (12:32 PM) dbphoenix: Now well below UTL (12:32 PM) Buffy_04364: Howard is hoping to have the version ready by the time market closes (12:33 PM) dbphoenix: Testing 1100 swing low. (12:36 PM) Buffy_04364: B line still flat (12:37 PM) dave_b_quik: ya, close stop (12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: data seems frozen again (12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: colored circles say to tighten (12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: but then I like to make many trades out of retros one (12:38 PM) jimbo_320: good afternoon all Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (12:38 PM) dbphoenix: DMI still up on short side. (12:38 PM) dave_b_quik: LOL you'll have to teach retro some more tricks (12:39 PM) dbphoenix: Was that the 1230 bounce? (12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: Hi Jimbo (12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: My brother enjoyed your music (12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: B line still flat (12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: needs to do something (12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: or still going down (12:42 PM) donsuelo: DBP.....What period do you use on 5 min DMI? (12:42 PM) dbphoenix: 14 (12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: tails on candles still imply dist (12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: also ticki showing selling (12:42 PM) donsuelo: Thx (12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: we did some fooling around with adx for intraday trading dbp and used 7 or 9 (12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: that was a ways back (12:43 PM) dbphoenix: Not crazy about ADX. Too late. (12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: that is why we settled on 7 or 9 instead of 14 (12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: ok B line trying to rise (12:44 PM) Buffy_04364: so chop for now? (12:44 PM) dbphoenix: You still just get an average, tho. I'd rather see the + and - components. (12:44 PM) Buffy_04364: while I have watched this template for many hours on demo, I still am learning from it (12:44 PM) Buffy_04364: oh we had all up (12:44 PM) Buffy_04364: adx and + and - (12:44 PM) BrainStorm: ADX not my favourite for that reason too db (12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: might be tradable swign here (12:45 PM) dbphoenix: I don't even look at it anymore. I can tell from the positions of the + and - what the ADX probably looks like anyway. (12:45 PM) BrainStorm: people holding short here ? (12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: hope not (12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: unless longer TF (12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: which is easy to do with me LOL (12:46 PM) BrainStorm: hehe you can look at a chart with price & volume and tell how strong the trend is (12:46 PM) Buffy_04364: I use such short ones (12:46 PM) Buffy_04364: with the ma brainstorm (12:46 PM) Buffy_04364: at least works for me Paltalk: Your friends are just a click away! Press the invite button NOW! (12:46 PM) Buffy_04364: hmm is that all she wrote? (12:46 PM) Buffy_04364: of just a pullback in the works (12:46 PM) BrainStorm: I have done an adaptive moving average very littl lag (12:47 PM) BrainStorm: goes to flat really quickly when the trend stalls too (12:47 PM) Buffy_04364: yes I saw that on espl yahoo (12:47 PM) Buffy_04364: nice job (12:47 PM) jimbo_320: not much happening today so far (12:47 PM) BrainStorm: I dont really use it for much except smoothes out when things are a bit choppy (12:47 PM) Buffy_04364: no there isn't jimbo (12:47 PM) Buffy_04364: only one trade here and missed the other Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (12:48 PM) Buffy_04364: patience seems easier with everything so visual now (12:48 PM) Buffy_04364: more to the upside I guess (12:48 PM) BrainStorm: I am taking an hour out...gtting itchy fingers again...hold back the big bo for me ? (12:48 PM) jimbo_320: Testing (12:48 PM) jimmer49: macd system stop and reverse 68.5 for +10 (12:48 PM) Buffy_04364: nice jimmer (12:49 PM) Roger Schelling: Buffy, seems like best hits ARE those ave's falling into a rising B line, and visa versa, like you said. Posted 1 min ES :) (12:49 PM) Buffy_04364: it seemed to be pretty reliable in demo also roger (12:49 PM) Buffy_04364: so glad it works on ES also (12:50 PM) Buffy_04364: no to get the rules and write up the indicators (12:50 PM) jimbo_320: jimmer does macd only enter on the retrace of macd after change of trend? (12:50 PM) Buffy_04364: now (12:50 PM) Roger Schelling: then use Jimmer's 5 cross 8 for exit :), long 1082.50 ES for the moment (12:50 PM) Buffy_04364: post the exit please (12:51 PM) Buffy_04364: when it happens (12:51 PM) Buffy_04364: want to see what colored circles would say (12:51 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks (12:52 PM) jimbo_320: ie on the next touch he will be long? (12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: notice also roger the colored bands below (12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: that is usually there also (12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: don't follow jimbo if ? to me (12:52 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry (12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: roger doing es me nq (12:53 PM) Roger Schelling: Just posted it, i really am not very good a this ,but scal;ping a little (12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: oh you asking jimer (12:53 PM) Roger Schelling: 1 point that time (12:54 PM) Buffy_04364: need the circles now roger (12:54 PM) Buffy_04364: I see where jimmer exit is (12:54 PM) Buffy_04364: or you can answer on what bar both are red (12:54 PM) jimbo_320: sox down 6% (12:55 PM) Buffy_04364: tks jimbo (12:55 PM) dbphoenix: Terrible volume. Stop lowered to last swing high. (12:55 PM) Buffy_04364: you should be stopped out if short dbp IMHO (12:55 PM) Buffy_04364: hope wrong (12:56 PM) dbphoenix: I will be at 1370. (12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks for price dbp (12:56 PM) dbphoenix: I'd rather let it come to me than second-guess. (12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: might be lower high on small TF (12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: market should come to you (12:56 PM) jimbo_320: y es volume is dire (12:57 PM) Buffy_04364: roger what bar had two red circles? (12:57 PM) dbphoenix: I'm looking at timestops, but it can be tricky. Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (12:58 PM) jimbo_320: 3 legs up on es testing bottom of uptrend line 60min (12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: this looks like news? (12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: or bear flag? (12:59 PM) jimbo_320: 60 contracts /min on es (12:59 PM) Buffy_04364: time line in pyra again (12:59 PM) jimbo_320: think i'll pack up and go home now (12:59 PM) dbphoenix: You just got here :0) (01:00 PM) ppusa: numerous sell signals if nq breaks 1362 (01:01 PM) dbphoenix: At least I now have a new swing high on the 5m (01:04 PM) ppusa: Jimbo can you please play this to Cream's "I'm so Glad" I'm so bored, I'm so bored, I'm bored, I'm bored, I'm bored (01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: bbl (01:07 PM) jimbo_320: dont any cream only clapton (01:07 PM) jimbo_320: know (01:08 PM) ppusa: wasn't clapton in cream Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== (01:08 PM) jimmer49: macd stopped by crossover at 84 for rare loss -4.5 (01:08 PM) jimbo_320: clapton is tough to play (01:10 PM) ppusa: market looks oversold (01:10 PM) ppusa: lower from higher (01:11 PM) jimmer49: just realized that last long should not have been taken due to 20 point rule. now long from 67 (01:11 PM) jimbo_320: ok here goes (01:12 PM) John 4242: jimmer, so am I!! (01:12 PM) John 4242: forgot abut the rule, too (01:12 PM) dbphoenix: That's the problem with rules. (01:12 PM) jimmer49: yep (01:13 PM) dave_b_quik: "you ain't got a friend when you don't have a dime" (01:13 PM) dbphoenix: One of the advantages in working with somebody is that they can tell you when to leave it the hell alone. That's more difficult when working by yourself. (01:13 PM) John 4242: it may turn out that applying the rule was the best way to go, anyway . . (01:14 PM) dbphoenix: This is just too tight for me to fool with. Made 5.5. Pitiful. (01:15 PM) dave_b_quik: there's lunch money at least Paltalk: Go bannerless and support PalTalk! Subscribe today! Only $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (01:16 PM) ppusa: fakey fakey (01:17 PM) jimbo_320: clue to that last bounce was a nice trin move Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (01:19 PM) donsuelo: 5 min H&S? (01:22 PM) jimbo_320: that was a band called marillion (01:22 PM) jimbo_320: one of my faves (01:23 PM) ppusa: Green Door (01:23 PM) ppusa: know thatone (01:24 PM) jimbo_320: ? elvis (01:24 PM) ppusa: naw...old, don't know who (01:24 PM) dbphoenix: The lower the volume, the less reliable the pattern, donsuelo. (01:24 PM) ppusa: maybe green gate (01:24 PM) ppusa: my setup here if turns down (01:25 PM) ppusa: still in triangle (01:27 PM) rich012: c'mon baby light my fire (01:27 PM) ppusa: ascending wedge (01:27 PM) Tom_B: BUff: Sell Setup ripening / (01:27 PM) Tom_B: ? Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (01:29 PM) dbphoenix: At least there should be something tomorrow. (01:29 PM) jimbo_320: love street (01:31 PM) Buffy_04364: B line decked (01:31 PM) Buffy_04364: above 80 (01:32 PM) dbphoenix: I'm glad my office is next to the kitchen so that I can at least do something productive. (01:32 PM) jimbo_320: brb (01:33 PM) fredrickson: dbp washing the dishes eh...lol (01:33 PM) dbphoenix: Making barbecue sauce. (01:34 PM) dave_b_quik: secret formula? (01:34 PM) skyprince_1: How to trade a 4 pt range?? Hmmmmm.... (01:34 PM) Abhi_D: hi (01:34 PM) dbphoenix: Not at all. (01:34 PM) skyprince_1: Yep... (01:35 PM) ppusa: neew hour, if breaks upward, be careful (01:35 PM) dbphoenix: I do a big BBQ thing at least once a month and freeze most of it. (01:35 PM) dbphoenix: That way I can make the most out of the fire. (01:37 PM) jimmer49: macd stopped on crossover 69.5 for +2.5. not an easy day (01:37 PM) dbphoenix: If you want to mess with it, sky, you can try fooling around with BBs. They work pretty well if the market's not trending. (01:38 PM) ppusa: jimmer if macd still works in this triangle, should workin anything Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (01:39 PM) jimmer49: at least it won't kill you pp, of that I am fairly sure (01:41 PM) skyprince_1: thnks db... (01:41 PM) dbphoenix: These Mondays are beginning to suck. I wonder if this is going to be a pattern? (01:41 PM) ppusa: beer here (01:41 PM) skyprince_1: I can't recall this tight of a range in a lont time... (01:42 PM) ppusa: whoops deer here (01:42 PM) dbphoenix: There are other things I could be doing. (01:42 PM) ppusa: now i thinking break upward 'cos seen to much down and no move (01:42 PM) ppusa: never mind (01:43 PM) dbphoenix: Well, there's no volume, no trend, and we're dead in the middle of the BBs and the range. It has to show me something. (01:43 PM) dbphoenix: Surely we can't sit here for three hours. (01:44 PM) skyprince_1: jimmer...so you wouldn't take this short on MACD crossing due to bottom 1/3 of BB...right? (01:44 PM) jimbo_320: the boomtown rats wrote a song about monday, they must of been traders (01:44 PM) dbphoenix: (01:45 PM) donsuelo: Agree...and don't call us Surely (01:45 PM) jimmer49: correct sky, not to mention the fact that it seemed like a dumb idea (01:45 PM) ppusa: hour chart and 1/2 hour chart look up (01:46 PM) skyprince_1: I like the dumb idea rule... (01:46 PM) ppusa: that's why i switched to up bias Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (01:46 PM) ppusa: could stop anywhere (01:46 PM) jimbo_320: if we followed that rule we'd never make any trades :-) (01:47 PM) jimmer49: good one Jimbo (01:48 PM) dbphoenix: To make profitable trades, you pretty much have to have a herd. There's no herd. (01:49 PM) dbphoenix: Another bull trap? Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== (01:49 PM) ppusa: moo (01:49 PM) jimmer49: with some reluctance, macd is long on continuation entry at72.5+ (01:49 PM) jimbo_320: 88 is es pivot so longs beware (01:50 PM) skyprince_1: But jimmer, MACD fast line rolling over there...why not at 76? (01:50 PM) jimbo_320: 77 is nqoos pivot (01:51 PM) jimmer49: 1340 bar sky turned back up (01:51 PM) skyprince_1: Okay...I need to zoom in.... (01:51 PM) ppusa: everyone been shorting all day now the herd. (01:51 PM) ppusa: herd in stampede (01:52 PM) jimmer49: brb (01:53 PM) Buffy_04364: posted signal roger and tom (01:55 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks for posting charts Roger (01:55 PM) Buffy_04364: tom do you see the signal (01:55 PM) dbphoenix: I suppose if you really wanted to buy something, that 1340 bar could be considered a graille buy. If you really wanted to buy something. (01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: good for a few points (01:56 PM) jimbo_320: hod on es (01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: and still in (01:59 PM) jimmer49: doesn't adx have to be over 30 for a grail? Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (01:59 PM) skyprince_1: jimmer...seems that signal was pretty fair... (02:00 PM) jimmer49: you just never know sometimes (02:01 PM) elly_34: is anyone logging t his day? (02:01 PM) Buffy_04364: hi elly (02:01 PM) elly_34: hi (02:01 PM) Buffy_04364: you running better today (02:01 PM) elly_34: sorry HI (02:01 PM) elly_34: hello everyone,,,in calif at mom's on a sloooooowwww isp (02:01 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (02:02 PM) elly_34: so not gonna stay on for long but,,,i am interested in what ya'll are discussing (02:02 PM) Buffy_04364: the template and jimmers system mostly (02:02 PM) skyprince_1: Well elly...we all should slow down now and then.. (02:02 PM) Buffy_04364: through in a little ppusa and dbp (02:02 PM) Buffy_04364: nice discussion (02:03 PM) elly_34: would anyone be willing to email me this log at end of day? (02:03 PM) dbphoenix: Sounds like a recipe ......... (02:03 PM) Buffy_04364: giggle (02:03 PM) Buffy_04364: sure what is email out there (02:03 PM) elly_34: i still check mine at eah@ccountry.net (02:03 PM) elly_34: and tomorrow i should be on most the day, but today going to do Mom stuff (02:04 PM) Buffy_04364: as it should be (02:04 PM) elly_34: and i am very interested in jimmer's method (02:04 PM) elly_34: so thank you buffy (02:04 PM) Buffy_04364: ok Howard is going to post new version where syncing everyone with demo will be so easy (02:04 PM) elly_34: good,,,i doubt i can do the demo thing til i get home (02:04 PM) Buffy_04364: yes me too Roger is watching both (02:04 PM) elly_34: but i loved it (02:05 PM) Buffy_04364: ensign 1 posted earlier shows changes to random number generator (02:05 PM) Buffy_04364: can't tell RT from demo (02:05 PM) elly_34: well u all have a great day,,see u tomorrow (02:05 PM) Buffy_04364: will be part of new version (02:07 PM) Buffy_04364: bye (02:07 PM) skyprince_1: bye Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (02:10 PM) dbphoenix: DMI still strong, but I'm using 1m swing lows for stops. We're getting awfully close to 1400 resistance. (02:14 PM) jimmer49: sounds like you bought something db (02:14 PM) dbphoenix: I bought the retracement to the top of the range at1380. (02:15 PM) dbphoenix: Your signal was obviously better :0) (02:15 PM) dbphoenix: It's difficult for me to trust indicators when I'm in a tight range like that. I'd rather get out first. (02:15 PM) jimbo_320: nq gap close (02:16 PM) dbphoenix: Thanks, jimbo. I was looking too hard at 1400. Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! (02:17 PM) jimbo_320: macd on the 3min is long from 65 (02:18 PM) jimmer49: macd stopped 86 for +13.5 (02:18 PM) dbphoenix: Now I'm even for the day. What a joke :0) (02:18 PM) jimmer49: now +28.5 on day (02:19 PM) dbphoenix: Now if I hadn't tried to take those two early trades......... Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (02:21 PM) jimmer49: macd not short here due to 20 point rule (02:22 PM) jimmer49: have to wait for retest (02:22 PM) dbphoenix: We could find support here at what was the HOD. (02:22 PM) jimmer49: if no retes, then sol (02:24 PM) jimbo_320: out 1/2 nqoos +9 (02:24 PM) Noel1: zimmer, If you don't mind me asking, what is the 20 pt. rule?..or is it posted somewhere (02:26 PM) dbphoenix: I guess closing that gap was enough. If so, we now have a lower high. (02:26 PM) jimmer49: The whole thing is posted in yahoo groups retro site - linked on daCharts retro page (02:27 PM) dbphoenix: Or you can read his upcoming article in TASC :0) (02:27 PM) Buffy_04364: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/retrotrader (02:27 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (02:27 PM) Noel1: tks, zimmer (02:27 PM) Buffy_04364: that is link to join it noel (02:27 PM) Noel1: tks,also Buffy (02:28 PM) jimmer49: Basically it says if you have had a move of more than 20 points, don't enter in opposite direction until there has been a retest (02:28 PM) jimbo_320: out (02:28 PM) Noel1: got it (02:29 PM) dbphoenix: With so little energy, a retest would be awfully weak. (02:29 PM) Buffy_04364: are there many here who don't know how to look at a chart when we say we have posted one? Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== (02:30 PM) dbphoenix: Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest? (02:30 PM) dbphoenix: Why don't they just call it a prune like everybody else? (02:30 PM) Buffy_04364: just wondering as I have been helping a few find them today (02:30 PM) jimmer49: Could have argued for a continuation entry here (02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: yep nice bounce off of BOS in pyra (02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: will post if anyone wants to see (02:31 PM) jimmer49: would want tighter stop than 7 though (02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: I also have template for pyra indicators if any one wants it (02:32 PM) dbphoenix: Aren't you out? (02:32 PM) jimbo_320: sold half +6 nqoos (02:33 PM) jimmer49: out yes, just pointing out that rules allow for continuation entry (02:33 PM) dbphoenix: Here's your retest. (02:33 PM) Buffy_04364: tom roger - bline decked on the 300 T (02:33 PM) jimmer49: would have been at 85 (02:33 PM) Buffy_04364: should be interesting (02:33 PM) Buffy_04364: out and watchng (02:34 PM) jimbo_320: big trin down move (02:34 PM) Buffy_04364: tks jimbo (02:35 PM) Buffy_04364: lots of +21 signals on ticki too (02:35 PM) Buffy_04364: with no -21 ones (02:35 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra seems to suggest failed test though (02:35 PM) Buffy_04364: we will see (02:36 PM) dbphoenix: First, I suppose, is the low of that swing high bar. (02:36 PM) jimbo_320: hvb on es (02:36 PM) Buffy_04364: trin really low (02:36 PM) jam_27: hvb? (02:37 PM) Buffy_04364: hi jam (02:37 PM) jam_27: Hi Buffy, just looking today. (02:38 PM) jam_27: Want to get setup with on the demo trading. (02:38 PM) Buffy_04364: ppusa and I are going to run through how to run after market closes (02:38 PM) Buffy_04364: howard working on new release that will make it very easy to sync (02:39 PM) Buffy_04364: with others (02:39 PM) jimmer49: macd hit short trigger at 86 (02:39 PM) Buffy_04364: hopefuly to be released later today Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (02:41 PM) jimbo_320: 3 legs up (02:42 PM) Buffy_04364: higher low still possible here (02:42 PM) Buffy_04364: as usual have to wait and see (02:42 PM) dbphoenix: Lower high on DMI, so I put in an order below the bar. (02:43 PM) Buffy_04364: if you try to add someone to pal list and it says they are already there but they are not showing on your list what is going on? (02:43 PM) Buffy_04364: if there a way to be invisible with paltalk? (02:44 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dbp (02:44 PM) Buffy_04364: accumulation still going on with ticki (02:46 PM) dbphoenix: Volume seems to be improving. Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. (02:48 PM) jimmer49: macd being severly tested - trailing stop at 90 (02:49 PM) dbphoenix: So's my patience. (02:49 PM) jimbo_320: still 1/2 long here (02:50 PM) jam_27: Buffy, sorry I had to jump and lose a point, I won't be able this afternoon, I should be back around 9:00 est if that is not to late, if so I will try to catch you later, Thanks Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (02:52 PM) Buffy_04364: should be here jam (02:52 PM) Buffy_04364: selling on ticki (02:52 PM) jam_27: ok, thanks (02:57 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra below tos now (02:57 PM) Buffy_04364: and pyra indicators say down (02:58 PM) dbphoenix: Anybody who's fiddling with DMI, notice how the + made lower hghs and the - made higher highs even tho the ADX isn't doing diddly. This provided a good signal for the short. (02:59 PM) jimbo_320: buffy is DMI the same as ADXR? (02:59 PM) dbphoenix: Or, rather, confirmation. (02:59 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dbp (02:59 PM) Buffy_04364: no it isn't (02:59 PM) jimmer49: I love collaborative effort (02:59 PM) Buffy_04364: oh adxr (02:59 PM) Buffy_04364: hmm and that is? (02:59 PM) jimmer49: macd trailing stop now 82.5 (03:00 PM) Buffy_04364: I don't think so jimbo but drawing a blank on adxr right now (03:00 PM) jimmer49: entry was 86 Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (03:00 PM) dbphoenix: Yeah, you got a good price. (03:01 PM) jimmer49: need a "take the money and run" rule hehe (03:01 PM) jimmer49: that's why I use 2 min (03:02 PM) jimmer49: stopped 82.5 for only +3.5 (03:02 PM) dbphoenix: Out (03:02 PM) Buffy_04364: better than - 3.5 jimmer (03:03 PM) jimmer49: getting more confidence in the system day by day (03:03 PM) skyprince_1: Today is a good workout for nay system... (03:03 PM) skyprince_1: any (03:03 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is sky (03:04 PM) dbphoenix: Yes, it is. Far better than trending days. (03:04 PM) dbphoenix: This is the "doing the work" part. (03:04 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra trying to get back through TOS (03:04 PM) dbphoenix: The stuff the stockjockeys won't mess with. (03:04 PM) skyprince_1: CNBC...market is listless...duh! (03:07 PM) dbphoenix: T says that if you can't identify the setup, don't trade it. Having a little trouble identifying a decent setup. Paltalk: ========================================== Win $1000 and other prizes! Enter the Creative Cooking with Dried Plums Contest. Click Here ========================================== (03:15 PM) dbphoenix: Strange. I thought that Achelis discussed ADX along with DMI, but I can't find any mention of ADX at all. Must be getting feeble. (03:16 PM) jimbo_320: sold half es +3.75 Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. (03:17 PM) jimbo_320: big trin move down (03:17 PM) Buffy_04364: must of gone up still showing 1.11 (03:17 PM) Buffy_04364: then down ? (03:17 PM) Buffy_04364: haven't been watching it close at all (03:17 PM) jimbo_320: 1.3 -1.1 (03:18 PM) jimbo_320: 635 ticks (03:18 PM) Buffy_04364: k (03:18 PM) Buffy_04364: tks (03:20 PM) dbphoenix: I'm going to go over these charts later today and wonder why I bothered to trade at all :0) Paltalk: ========================================== Smart Computing Risk-FREE Trial! Get PC tips & tricks in a Plain English writing style for PC users of all skill levels, Order NOW just $29 for12 issues. Click Here ========================================== (03:21 PM) jimmer49: lost everything there for a moment (03:21 PM) Orprepus: db unusua day - OE monday (03:21 PM) Orprepus: historically up day (03:22 PM) dbphoenix: I wonder if they'll ever have eminis on sector indices. Like semis or biotech. Now THAT would be volatile. (03:23 PM) dbphoenix: I don't know, Orp. Last Monday wasn't much either. (03:23 PM) Orprepus: it is also october - worst month to trade (03:24 PM) dbphoenix: True. (03:24 PM) Orprepus: summer is tame compared to this (03:24 PM) Orprepus: brb (03:24 PM) jimbo_320: come on wheres the hod push... (03:25 PM) dbphoenix: Does help to work out these strategies and systems in a trendless market. Don't get bitten too bad while working out the kinks. (03:25 PM) Buffy_04364: new demo is going to give you options on type of market I think (03:25 PM) Buffy_04364: not sure (03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra testing bos again (03:26 PM) jimbo_320: what is bos? (03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: needs to respect it if going up (03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: bottom of square (03:27 PM) Buffy_04364: below it now (03:27 PM) dbphoenix: I'd rather do it the old-fashioned way. (03:27 PM) jimbo_320: is that a trendline 4 me? (03:27 PM) Buffy_04364: will post it (03:29 PM) Buffy_04364: posted (03:29 PM) jimbo_320: thxs, if it aint popping this time i'm out (03:29 PM) Buffy_04364: u welc (03:30 PM) Buffy_04364: Tom do you have the band for the bline working ok? (03:30 PM) dbphoenix: If we all had the RAM, we could play poker on days like this. (03:30 PM) Buffy_04364: giggle yep (03:30 PM) jimbo_320: which chart? (03:30 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra6 Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (03:31 PM) ppusa: new hour hour chart (03:31 PM) ppusa: maybe get some movement now (03:31 PM) Buffy_04364: caught between teh 50 and 200 again on some TF (03:31 PM) jimbo_320: calling a day, enjoy the close (03:32 PM) Buffy_04364: bye jimbo (03:32 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks for your hel (03:32 PM) Buffy_04364: help (03:32 PM) ppusa: between the BS and the NS (03:33 PM) Buffy_04364: back above the top (03:33 PM) Buffy_04364: back above the bos again (03:34 PM) Buffy_04364: can it hold??? (03:37 PM) PuNkAnGeL281: omg (03:37 PM) John 4242: bounce them (03:37 PM) falseteeth_uk_1: i bid £25 (03:37 PM) ppusa: why would anyone pay 150 for a video (03:37 PM) ppusa: you are out of here (03:37 PM) falseteeth_uk_1: hahahaa (03:37 PM) robshe: haaaaaaaaaa (03:38 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (03:38 PM) Buffy_04364: still hasn't closed above BOS (03:38 PM) TransientFemale: BVD's (03:38 PM) malky_6_1: ANGEL PM (03:38 PM) malky_6_1: LOOK (03:39 PM) dbphoenix: I have my sound off. Am I missing anything? (03:39 PM) Buffy_04364: nope (03:39 PM) dbphoenix: Didn't think so :0) (03:39 PM) ppusa: who has a hammer (03:40 PM) dbphoenix: Why? Do you want to hammer in the morning? (03:40 PM) skyprince_1: This market needs therapy...it's schizophrenic! Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (03:40 PM) dbphoenix: No, it needs caffeine. (03:41 PM) dbphoenix: Or uppers. (03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: just right click on their name and click on ignore works also (03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: roger does it all the time (03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (03:41 PM) Buffy_04364: yes we have close above BOS (03:41 PM) dbphoenix: What happens, tho, is that it lulls us, then makes a 40pt move in the first ten minutes tomorrow. (03:42 PM) jimmer49: Am I back now? lost isp for a while. (03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: yes you are here (03:42 PM) Buffy_04364: don't you hate that (03:42 PM) dbphoenix: So glad I don't have to deal with that anymore. (03:42 PM) jimmer49: Anyone else have problem? (03:44 PM) Buffy_04364: how did you cure that one dbp? (03:44 PM) Buffy_04364: sattelite? (03:44 PM) dbphoenix: Cable (03:44 PM) Buffy_04364: oh (03:44 PM) dbphoenix: Love it (03:44 PM) Buffy_04364: my dsl will still hang on occasion (03:44 PM) jimmer49: I am on cable (03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: still not here that is going to be my backup when it gets here (03:45 PM) dbphoenix: DSL isn't available to me. (03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: all can do it jimmer I guess (03:45 PM) dbphoenix: Wouldn't work anyway since the phone lines are crap. (03:45 PM) Buffy_04364: need to be close to switchng station too (03:45 PM) dbphoenix: In fact, I wound up disconnecting the phones entirely and went cellular. (03:46 PM) Buffy_04364: many have done that (03:46 PM) dbphoenix: Felt like a chump paying that monthly telephone bill for the privilege of accepting sales calls. (03:46 PM) jimmer49: Well, macd system is flat and has been since before I disappeared (03:46 PM) Buffy_04364: my problem is no cellular right for this area and area would want to call and travel in (03:46 PM) Buffy_04364: someday (03:46 PM) jimmer49: sitting at +32 on the day Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (03:47 PM) Buffy_04364: just got 3.5 out of mine (03:47 PM) Buffy_04364: flat now (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: at least not trapped in between the ma any more (03:49 PM) dbphoenix: Are you going to answer emails, jimmer, or set up a group so you don't have to answer the same ?s over and over? Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (03:51 PM) jimmer49: Not going to set up a group, but will answer serious emails. (03:52 PM) jimmer49: Anyone really interested in learning a system really has to do most of the work themselves. (03:52 PM) skyprince_1: jimmer...I have to believe there was a lot of "discretion" today..because trading strictly by the rules has yielded only 8.5 pts here, unless I'm missing something... (03:53 PM) dbphoenix: True. Esp if it has a discretionary component. (03:53 PM) jimmer49: Not much discretion really (03:53 PM) skyprince_1: Then I need to work at it more... (03:54 PM) jimmer49: Discretion not to go long at 1510 bar (03:54 PM) John 4242: jimmer could you give your summary again? how many trades for the day and how many pts made? Tks (03:55 PM) dbphoenix: It's ALWAYS more difficult in real time, sky. I review these charts every day after the close, but it's not the same as having to make the decisions at the time. (03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: sad to see reminder come up that says market closing but then happy knowing demo there (03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: that is so true dbp (03:55 PM) jimmer49: 6 trades, +32 (03:55 PM) jimmer49: no losers (03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: reviewing charts just not the same (03:56 PM) John 4242: tks (03:56 PM) John 4242: does that include 2M trades or just 5M trades? (03:56 PM) Buffy_04364: that is the beauty of demo can do both (03:56 PM) dbphoenix: For one thing, the bars aren't moving when you do the review. In real time, the bars are moving and so are the indicators. (03:56 PM) skyprince_1: That's my mistake...I have recorded 15 trades! Obviously misreading signals. (03:57 PM) ispe_bc: jimmer, could be some confusion with some people using simple macd and others using exponential.... much different signals (03:57 PM) ispe_bc: I don't think it said in your yahoo post (03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: true it didn't and that is a question I was suppose to ask you today jimmer (03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: which is it (03:58 PM) jimmer49: Good point - using exponential (03:58 PM) ispe_bc: that's it (03:59 PM) skyprince_1: Exponential MACD?? E-signal doesn't have that. (04:00 PM) skyprince_1: Exponential would result in fewer crosses, right? (04:01 PM) QSuzy: Buffy.....did I read correctly earlier in today's transcript?......are you going to talk about working with the demo after the close today? Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (04:01 PM) jimmer49: Entry times EDT - s0936 bar on 2 min, on 5 min - L1025, S1145, L1305, L1340, S1438 (04:01 PM) dbphoenix: AFAIK, standard MACD is exponential, sky. (04:04 PM) skyprince_1: Yes, that's what I thought.... (04:05 PM) John 4242: Thanks, Jimmer (04:05 PM) skyprince_1: That's what the "step" setup is all about..... (04:06 PM) skyprince_1: jimmer is calling for 4,11,6 which makes it exponential, right? (04:08 PM) jimmer49: i see I already have 4 emails waiting for me. This could take some time. (04:08 PM) Buffy_04364: yes qsuzy (04:08 PM) Buffy_04364: show how to run it (04:08 PM) jimmer49: Sky - did you go short around 1055? (04:08 PM) Buffy_04364: we are not going to go into syncing with each other though as new version will be much easier (04:09 PM) skyprince_1: looking (04:09 PM) QSuzy: I'll stick around.....haven't worked with it at all yet....sounds interesting..tx (04:10 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is (04:10 PM) dbphoenix: You may want to think about the group thing again, jimmer. Only takes a few minutes. And you could post chart examples. You're probably trying to avoid being a guru, but a group site would save time. (04:11 PM) jimmer49: I am trying to avoid being a guru. I ain't that good and don't want to get my ego all messed up. (04:11 PM) Buffy_04364: all who want to learn to run demo must add it to their symbol list under chart icon (04:12 PM) jimmer49: I'll bet anything Dave has had his regrets about starting one. Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (04:13 PM) Buffy_04364: much easier for him now that group is started jimmer I think (04:13 PM) dbphoenix: Understood. A group would take the load off you, tho, because they could talk to each other and solve their own problems. When I set up my current group, I made it clear at the beginning that it would not be Ask Db. If they didn't take the reins, nothing would happen. (04:13 PM) QSuzy: buffy.....ticker DEMO? (04:13 PM) Buffy_04364: do you have ensign ? (04:13 PM) Buffy_04364: symbol demo (04:13 PM) Buffy_04364: like nqz1 is a symbol (04:14 PM) ppusa: anyone have web address for macd at yahoo? (04:14 PM) skyprince_1: Yes, went long on 10:50 bar at 1381, stopped out at 1386 (trailing stop). (04:14 PM) skyprince_1: THat's west coast time (04:14 PM) Buffy_04364: included with retro for now ppusa (04:15 PM) Buffy_04364: if you get emails from retro group should get jimmers (04:16 PM) Buffy_04364: back in a bit then we do demo (04:17 PM) dbphoenix: Of course, anybody who's really interested in jimmer's strategy could set up a group on his own and invite jimmer to contribute when he likes for as much or as little as he likes. That would take the pressure off jimmer. Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (04:17 PM) dbphoenix: That way, those who are trying to set something up could share ideas and charts. (04:17 PM) jimmer49: The one you mentioned was OK except a little late (04:18 PM) ppusa: can't find macd system anywhere...help please (04:18 PM) dbphoenix: Sky? How 'bout you? (04:19 PM) jimmer49: Sky, I think our difference may that you are waiting a little longer to enter and missing part of some moves. (04:19 PM) dbphoenix: Pp, are you at dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart or the Yahoo site? (04:19 PM) ppusa: tried both (04:19 PM) ppusa: da currently (04:19 PM) dbphoenix: The posts are at the Yahoo Group site. (04:20 PM) dbphoenix: The one called "retrotrader", not the emini site. (04:20 PM) ppusa: do i need to join? (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/retrotrader (04:20 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (04:20 PM) dbphoenix: If you want access to the messages, I imagine so. (04:21 PM) Buffy_04364: that is the link to do so (04:21 PM) Buffy_04364: ok just so I know how many are doing the demo symbol to watch market like real time? (04:22 PM) ppusa: i'm on the correct page but do not see macd (04:22 PM) ppusa: have not joined (04:22 PM) Buffy_04364: you have to join Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (04:25 PM) Mike -X-: http://www.southerntier-gifts.net (04:25 PM) Mike -X-: http://www.southerntier-gifts.net (04:25 PM) Buffy_04364: let me know when you are ready to do the demo symbol (04:25 PM) Roger Schelling: can anyone hear me? (04:25 PM) Buffy_04364: i can't (04:25 PM) Buffy_04364: can anyone else (04:25 PM) Roger Schelling: hum (04:26 PM) Buffy_04364: can you hear me (04:26 PM) QSuzy: buffy....I'm ready... (04:26 PM) Roger Schelling: i hear u (04:26 PM) tradeit: i can roger or buffy (04:26 PM) Orprepus: roger good (04:26 PM) QSuzy: I hear you both.... (04:26 PM) Roger Schelling: brb (04:26 PM) fredrickson: i can hear both of you (04:26 PM) Buffy_04364: ok someone else do sound check that says who has to leave and come back in (04:26 PM) Buffy_04364: ok it is you roger (04:26 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry (04:27 PM) Orprepus: buffy ok and roger good to talk for me (04:27 PM) Orprepus: roger has been talking (04:27 PM) Orprepus: tradeit has been talking (04:27 PM) Buffy_04364: ok I couldn't hear him so will be right back (04:27 PM) Orprepus: buffy did you hear (04:28 PM) tradeit: i can hear buffy or roger,but don know if they can hear me (04:28 PM) tradeit: dont (04:28 PM) QSuzy: y (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: yes thanks (04:28 PM) Buffy_04364: going to type so it can be saved (04:29 PM) Buffy_04364: first step is to save your workspace and then close all windows using the windows drop down menu up above (04:29 PM) Buffy_04364: let me know when done (04:29 PM) tradeit: yes to tradeit?buffy can you hear me ok? (04:29 PM) QSuzy: done.. (04:30 PM) Buffy_04364: yes I could tradeit (04:30 PM) Buffy_04364: yes roger (04:30 PM) tradeit: o boy (04:31 PM) Roger Schelling: Do we need to download a new EW? (04:31 PM) QSuzy: I could not open Demo chart.....added it to chart list on second button.... (04:31 PM) tradeit: yes i am ok i think (04:31 PM) tradeit: yes (04:31 PM) Buffy_04364: second is to add demo to the symbol list by clicking on the second icon in from the left (04:31 PM) Buffy_04364: pick a small TF (04:31 PM) Buffy_04364: when you open a chart of it (04:32 PM) Buffy_04364: which is the 3rd thing to do (04:32 PM) QSuzy: buffy....i get no data in my chart... (04:32 PM) QSuzy: ok (04:33 PM) Buffy_04364: now go to setup connection (04:33 PM) QSuzy: How do you close data manager?.....I have NT also... Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (04:34 PM) Buffy_04364: click on data manager on task bar (04:34 PM) Buffy_04364: click on the first word in the menu up top on the right (04:34 PM) Buffy_04364: click on exit (04:35 PM) QSuzy: okay.....you mean in Esignal and not EW....found it. (04:35 PM) Buffy_04364: right in esignal (04:35 PM) Buffy_04364: now change the connection to no connection (04:37 PM) QSuzy: no data here.... (04:38 PM) QSuzy: 3min (04:38 PM) QSuzy: i have data now... (04:39 PM) QSuzy: changed chart to 15 tick so chart filling in..... (04:39 PM) QSuzy: sure is! (04:42 PM) QSuzy: Will these ticks be stored in chart named Demo? (04:42 PM) QSuzy: Or will new data come up with each use? (04:43 PM) QSuzy: ok (04:43 PM) tradeit: one qst buffy how do i change tick value i think I am in 1 tick? 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(04:49 PM) wotten: yes (04:50 PM) wotten: ensign (04:50 PM) wotten: ok (04:50 PM) wotten: ok (04:51 PM) wotten: DEMO (04:51 PM) wotten: open (04:53 PM) Buffy_04364: wotten where are you? Are you having problems? (04:54 PM) wotten: I added a chart called demo, then I opened that chart and it is blank. I'm using 7 tick. Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (04:54 PM) wotten: ok (04:55 PM) wotten: ok (04:55 PM) wotten: program vwersion 10-8 (04:57 PM) wotten: no (04:57 PM) wotten: repeat please (05:00 PM) wotten: now i'm getting something (05:01 PM) QSuzy: would this be during trading hours or in afternoon sessions? (05:01 PM) QSuzy: so this is more for training, right? (05:02 PM) QSuzy: Thanks a bunch, buffy....you're great!! (05:02 PM) QSuzy: yes, he is! Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (05:09 PM) Tom_B: t (05:09 PM) QSuzy: buffy, that template you mentioned today in Ensign folder.....it has .dat extension.....how does one use that template....where in EW would I put it so that I can look at it? (05:10 PM) hanksterr: Buffy, once you save the template in ensign/study then how do you get it (05:10 PM) Tom_B: u 2 , bye (05:10 PM) Buffy_04364: save it in the ensign\study folder (05:11 PM) Buffy_04364: brb Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (05:15 PM) Buffy_04364: bk Paltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end your popup blues today! Click OPTIONS on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $9.95 a year! That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!! (05:18 PM) Buffy_04364: yes u can (05:19 PM) hanksterr: it is in ensign/study but I am not getting it in the templates (05:20 PM) QSuzy: I am having same problem as hank... (05:21 PM) QSuzy: I have Templat3 (05:21 PM) Buffy_04364: If you have a templat3 and a templat3.dat (05:22 PM) Roger Schelling: can u hear me? (05:22 PM) QSuzy: heard you, Roger... (05:22 PM) Roger Schelling: k (05:22 PM) Roger Schelling: thx (05:22 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (05:22 PM) ppusa: broken (05:22 PM) Buffy_04364: I heard that but choppy (05:23 PM) Roger Schelling: yea hang just min (05:23 PM) Roger Schelling: my EW is downloading daily's (05:23 PM) Roger Schelling: resvae temps (05:24 PM) Roger Schelling: resave temp (05:24 PM) Roger Schelling: in new version. (05:24 PM) Roger Schelling: then explorer will show templats with dat ext Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (05:25 PM) Roger Schelling: reason we need to do that. is cause we cannot exchange templat unles u have the new version, there were probs. so the dat extension was added to make them self contained (05:25 PM) hanksterr: yes (05:25 PM) Buffy_04364: if it added the dat extention then you need to rename the buffy whatever to templat3.dat period and it will over write it (05:25 PM) QSuzy: only dat ext in Explorer is file I downloaded from dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com (05:26 PM) Buffy_04364: if it did not add the dat extention then you need to rename the dat one to templat3 without the extention (05:26 PM) hanksterr: got it ty buffy (05:26 PM) Roger Schelling: yea suzy, when you resave each templat after you download new version it will show templat#.dat (05:27 PM) Roger Schelling: in explorer (05:27 PM) hanksterr: all you have to do is save it as templat3.dat (05:28 PM) QSuzy: working on it... (05:28 PM) Roger Schelling: yea, the transfer works good, with new version and all templats are (05:28 PM) Roger Schelling: .dat (05:29 PM) Roger Schelling: yea u might want to rename that file in dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart (05:30 PM) Roger Schelling: and put it in Buffy directory (05:31 PM) Roger Schelling: well they at particular to your teaching,,,,jmho (05:32 PM) QSuzy: yippee......got it! (05:32 PM) Roger Schelling: good suzy (05:34 PM) wotten: Have you talked about your system/method yet? (05:37 PM) wotten: how do I setup your indicators? (05:37 PM) QSuzy: buffy....heard talk in room last few days about ticki.....where is best place to read about that or can you define in a sentence or two? (05:37 PM) wotten: ok Iw illtake a look later Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (05:39 PM) wotten: i'm sorry I did it (05:39 PM) wotten: selected tyemplate 3 (05:40 PM) wotten: no (05:40 PM) wotten: no (05:40 PM) wotten: i just followed your instructions (05:40 PM) wotten: everything ok (05:40 PM) QSuzy: I've got to get up and move around.....thanks for leading us thru this, buffy.....see you manana!......Bye all.... (05:46 PM) Buffy_04364: going to take a 15M break here Paltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners! Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (05:57 PM) tradeit: ok vieja r you there? (05:58 PM) Vieja: yes (05:58 PM) Ensign Software: Missed me, perhaps?? (05:58 PM) tradeit: its www.ensign.com (05:58 PM) Buffy_04364: hi howard (05:58 PM) tradeit: yes but my mic is out (05:59 PM) Ensign Software: my web site address is www.ensignsoftware.com (05:59 PM) Vieja: ok got it...ok (05:59 PM) Ensign Software: what did you say roger?? Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (05:59 PM) Buffy_04364: have a few more using demo on their own tonight howard (05:59 PM) Buffy_04364: keep losing you roger (06:00 PM) Vieja: ok see you tradeit (06:00 PM) Buffy_04364: I think he wants to know where to clean out symbols he no longer needs (06:00 PM) Ensign Software: yes, better (06:00 PM) Buffy_04364: yes much better roger (06:00 PM) tradeit: and vieja i think you have to have esignal as well,try it and i will see you here or in at trading tommorow (06:01 PM) tradeit: (at) (06:01 PM) Vieja: ok got it may have to change my quote system again!! what is the cost? (06:01 PM) Ensign Software: roger, would go faster if you go clean out uneeded and unwanted daily charts from the folders used by Ensign (06:01 PM) Ensign Software: then it would run faster (06:02 PM) Ensign Software: yes roger, use W. Explorer (06:02 PM) tradeit: if you make right trades it is very cheap-lol (06:02 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, where are we at, so I know what to tell you and others about what is coming next (06:02 PM) tradeit: see you (06:02 PM) Buffy_04364: there were a couple of folders we could clean out isn't there (06:02 PM) Ensign Software: oct 15th version coming in about 15 minutes (06:02 PM) Buffy_04364: lines and everythng (06:02 PM) Vieja: lol bye (06:03 PM) Buffy_04364: ok howard (06:03 PM) Buffy_04364: all eyes :-) (06:03 PM) Ensign Software: is everyone here waiting for a class on DEMO this afternoon?? (06:03 PM) Ensign Software: or are you in the middle of a class? (06:03 PM) Buffy_04364: already got them up and running who wanted to run it (06:03 PM) Buffy_04364: we are going to wait to sync (06:03 PM) Buffy_04364: when easier (06:04 PM) Ensign Software: ok, let me get new version uploaded, then I will have all download and we can continue after that (06:04 PM) Ensign Software: couple more minutes please, building new versions to upload (06:05 PM) Buffy_04364: looking for notes on other folders to clean out roger (06:08 PM) Ensign Software: roger, my web site has information on what is stored where on the Training page, Files and Folders section (06:09 PM) Roger Schelling: ok (06:09 PM) Ensign Software: by a show of the raised hand, how many are doing the DEMO thing this afternoon and will follow along with me when the new version is uploaded????? Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (06:10 PM) Ensign Software: ok, tom_B I would have been here sooner after market close (06:10 PM) Ensign Software: but I spent all day on the repaint issue and have improvements in place in today's upload that should (06:10 PM) Tom_B: ? (06:10 PM) Tom_B: k (06:10 PM) Ensign Software: solve the issue you see on your system with those 6 NQ charts. (06:11 PM) Tom_B: GREAT (06:11 PM) Ensign Software: you probably did not see the problem today since the market was sideways (06:11 PM) Ensign Software: however, with new version you should not see the repaint problem tomorrow (06:12 PM) Buffy_04364: great Howard (06:12 PM) Tom_B: no prob today but on demo it went off once on big move (06:12 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks (06:12 PM) Tom_B: thanks (06:12 PM) Buffy_04364: out of curiousity and if time why he see and not me with all my charts? (06:12 PM) Buffy_04364: OS? (06:12 PM) Ensign Software: let me know if you do, but I am betting on it being resolved. (06:13 PM) Ensign Software: OK, everone new versions are all posted, go download them. (06:13 PM) Ensign Software: take your hands down now (06:14 PM) Ensign Software: then I can ask for hands to be raised again in a few minutes (06:14 PM) Ensign Software: task at hand now is for you to go download from within the program or from the web site (06:14 PM) Ensign Software: version is Oct 15 regardless of the date shown on the web site. (06:15 PM) Ensign Software: Raise your hand when you have the Oct 15th version running, ok? (06:16 PM) Buffy_04364: if this is going to be all demo howard I can exit dm now so I don't forget and lock up right? (06:16 PM) Ensign Software: k, waiting for tom and tradeit (06:16 PM) Ensign Software: wait buffy, do nothing right now, please (06:16 PM) Buffy_04364: k (06:18 PM) Ensign Software: ok, class begins, take your hands down now so we can use hands again as a signal (06:19 PM) Buffy_04364: i hear you (06:19 PM) Roger Schelling: ihear ya Paltalk: Subscribe to Paltalk Plus to stop the popups today! Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (06:19 PM) Ensign Software: I will use the mic raise hand if you cannot hear (06:19 PM) Buffy_04364: ifyou can not hear raise your hand (06:19 PM) Ensign Software: ok, will type then Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (06:19 PM) Buffy_04364: he left and will be back (06:19 PM) Ensign Software: click menu SetUp | Connection (06:20 PM) Ensign Software: can tom hear now? (06:20 PM) Tom_B: y (06:21 PM) Buffy_04364: no connection is not needed for demo anymore (06:21 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (06:21 PM) Buffy_04364: typing some for record to save (06:22 PM) Ensign Software: Now click on the DEMO tab on this setup form (06:22 PM) Ensign Software: WOW !!!!!! neat stuff here (06:22 PM) Buffy_04364: absolutely fantastic!!!!!11 (06:22 PM) Ensign Software: will wait 2 minutes while you look over this DEMO setup tab form (06:23 PM) Buffy_04364: WOW (06:23 PM) Buffy_04364: all those options for market type (06:23 PM) Buffy_04364: all on one tab named DEMO :-) (06:23 PM) Buffy_04364: so easy to understand! (06:23 PM) Buffy_04364: great job (06:23 PM) Tom_B: please exp mkt types whn appropriate (06:24 PM) Ensign Software: Lets start down the list (06:24 PM) Ensign Software: When you want to SYNC with some one, which we will do this afternoon with each other (06:25 PM) Ensign Software: come to this DEMO form and UNCHECK the Run check box. That is the 1st step (06:25 PM) Ensign Software: this turns off the demo feed. Anyone not wanting DEMO to run during market hours would turn it off by unchecking RUN on this form. (06:25 PM) Ensign Software: any questions about step 1 or the run checkbox?? (06:26 PM) Ensign Software: Ok, do step 1 now of unchecking the RUN check box (06:26 PM) Buffy_04364: no (06:27 PM) Roger Schelling: ok (06:27 PM) Buffy_04364: done (06:27 PM) Ensign Software: Step 2, we need to agree on an initial price for our charts to start at. This is also the seed for the random number generator. So when we all use the same price we all get the same simulated feed. (06:27 PM) Ensign Software: For today, let's pick 60000 as the seed (06:28 PM) Buffy_04364: done (06:28 PM) Ensign Software: Do step 2 now of entering 60000 as the price. This is the same as $600 for a stock (06:28 PM) Ensign Software: any questions about step 2?? (06:29 PM) Ensign Software: now the price box was filled IN with the current DEMO price when you unchecked the RUN check box (06:29 PM) Buffy_04364: nomore writing it down great (06:29 PM) Ensign Software: that is so you could kind of resume at that price, but for syncing with others we need to use the same price Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (06:30 PM) Ensign Software: now the next neat thing is that we can generate BACK data so we do not start with empty charts (06:30 PM) Ensign Software: this way we will all generate the same back data so buffy does not have to e-mail us her charts to look at when we sync (06:31 PM) Ensign Software: if you have None selected, we will not generate any back data, we can just continue or start from scratch (06:32 PM) Ensign Software: when Today is selected back data will be generated from midnight this morning (06:32 PM) Ensign Software: Yesterday would be all of yesterday and all of today (06:33 PM) Ensign Software: any questions about using Days to generate back data so we have idential initial charts to look at? (06:33 PM) Buffy_04364: which are we using now (06:34 PM) Ensign Software: for step 3, select TODAY as the setting, please (06:34 PM) Buffy_04364: great time saver (06:34 PM) Ensign Software: now step 4 will most often be left set on Random. (06:35 PM) Ensign Software: the reason being is that the tick feed will start at midnight and be in some particular phase of pattern generation when it gets to Now. (06:35 PM) Ensign Software: you do not know what that phase is, and so to you what comes next is random (06:36 PM) Ensign Software: how ever, buffy, wanted a way to test her stuff on a particular type of market and not have to wait around a few days for trends to return or for chop chop to show up (06:36 PM) Ensign Software: so, for those who want to test in a particular type of market can select one of the other 17 choices I have shown on the list. (06:37 PM) Buffy_04364: others liked the idea also howard (06:37 PM) Ensign Software: if you want to be near the start of a minor trend, select to be on its wave 1 (06:37 PM) Buffy_04364: gee 17 wild - would of been happy with 3 (06:37 PM) Ensign Software: if you want to be near the end of a minor trend and experience a transition to a minor correctiion, then select Minor Trend wave 5. (06:38 PM) Buffy_04364: great idea (06:38 PM) Ensign Software: minor trend correction wave A or B is probably a good spot for experiencing some chop chop (06:38 PM) Buffy_04364: this is beyond my wildest dreams (06:39 PM) Roger Schelling: good stuff, should attract many techncians (06:39 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it should (06:39 PM) Buffy_04364: it is a common problem (06:39 PM) Buffy_04364: have to wait for market to give you that type of data (06:40 PM) Ensign Software: now, the problem with selecting a phase other than random, is that others CANNOT sync to see what you see because THEY also would have had to select the phase and go back on-line when YOU go back on-line (06:40 PM) Buffy_04364: to test system (06:40 PM) Ensign Software: if you and they stay on RANDOM, then ANYONE can sync with you if they know the price and what day you started on. Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (06:40 PM) Buffy_04364: minor problem for sure (06:40 PM) Buffy_04364: not a problem (06:41 PM) Ensign Software: THAT LAST STATEMENT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND (06:41 PM) Ensign Software: so, for the class, select Random as step 4 if it is not showing Random as the current setting (06:41 PM) Buffy_04364: so if we select the same phase and click run at the same time then it would work? (06:41 PM) Roger Schelling: so it is important that we go back ONLINE AT THE SAME TIME, in the other choices? (06:42 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (06:42 PM) Ensign Software: by all of us starting with Random, anyone can sync up with us on their own later today by also using days = today, AND they can also sync with your TOMORROW by setting days to Yesterday. (06:42 PM) Buffy_04364: anything other than random (06:42 PM) Buffy_04364: ok I see (06:42 PM) Buffy_04364: got it (06:42 PM) Buffy_04364: random lets someone sync all weekend (06:42 PM) Buffy_04364: others wouldn't (06:43 PM) Ensign Software: 2 days from now someone can still sync with you. They would just need to set days so they use the Monday morning midnight like you are doing today, on Monday. (06:43 PM) Ensign Software: you understand correctly buffy, (06:43 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (06:43 PM) Ensign Software: all weekend long, others can still sync up to see the charts you are looking at. and they can sync at any tie (06:43 PM) Ensign Software: time (06:44 PM) Buffy_04364: like it :-) (06:44 PM) Ensign Software: now the rest of you who are already synced DO NOT need to resync. you just keep running. (06:44 PM) Buffy_04364: can't think of why anyone wouldn't be a happy camper with this (06:44 PM) Buffy_04364: right they can play catch up (06:44 PM) Buffy_04364: so much less work (06:45 PM) Ensign Software: the new person joining in is the only one who needs to do steps 1 through 6 using your price and correct days setting and then they will be synced with you. (06:45 PM) Ensign Software: yes, late comers can play catch up (06:45 PM) Ensign Software: so, by us syncing with Today at 60000 we make it possible for others to still sync to you for the next 4 days (06:46 PM) Ensign Software: would be wise to resync yourself come Friday, using Today or Yesterday and a new price, and then anyone can sync all weekend long with you. (06:46 PM) Buffy_04364: that covers the weekend nicely (06:46 PM) Ensign Software: any questions about syncing? (06:47 PM) Ensign Software: OK, stay on Random and then sync by late comers is possible. (06:47 PM) Ensign Software: step 5 says to click the Delete button (06:47 PM) Buffy_04364: might have a chance to test that all out later (06:47 PM) Buffy_04364: that answers all my delete ? giggle (06:47 PM) Ensign Software: what happens is EW will delete all of your DEMO files AND generate a new tick sequence that will be used to replace them (06:48 PM) Tom_B: if i hve existing demo data shd wrkspce be closed to delete or doesn't matter ? (06:48 PM) Ensign Software: good point tom. answer is YES (06:48 PM) Ensign Software: close the existing workspace so the chart files are closed (06:48 PM) Ensign Software: they will be deleted by this Delete button. now the workspace still exists (06:48 PM) Ensign Software: just the chart data file is deleted. (06:49 PM) Tom_B: Since i'm new to EW , how do i close wkspce & just hve a black/blkank screen ? (06:49 PM) omegavus: hello everyone Paltalk: Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners. (06:49 PM) Ensign Software: when you reopen your workspace, the bars will be REBUILT using the new tick sequence and everyone will have IDENTICAL bars. (06:49 PM) Ensign Software: tom, click menu Window | Close ALL windows (06:49 PM) Buffy_04364: use the window up in menu tom (06:49 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry (06:50 PM) Tom_B: k,tnx (06:50 PM) omegavus: how was your trading today? (06:50 PM) Ensign Software: do step 6 now by clicking on the Delete button (06:50 PM) Ensign Software: now your hard disk will be active as thousands of ticks are generated (06:50 PM) Buffy_04364: Howard is doing a class on syncing demo omega (06:50 PM) Ensign Software: now do step 6 which is reclick the Run check box (06:50 PM) Buffy_04364: be with you in a bit Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (06:51 PM) Ensign Software: Step 6 is the one step we should do in unison (06:52 PM) Ensign Software: but I already gave you the instruction to recheck it. (06:52 PM) Ensign Software: perhaps next time I can be more of a get ready, get set, do it now type of sync for unison clicking (06:52 PM) Tom_B: does the check start it or o.k. ? (06:52 PM) Ensign Software: the RUN check box starts and stops the feed (06:52 PM) Buffy_04364: confused (06:53 PM) Ensign Software: ask buffy. (06:53 PM) Buffy_04364: why all together for the run? is that because so close in time (06:53 PM) Buffy_04364: not like someone coming in late (06:54 PM) Ensign Software: good question. (06:54 PM) Buffy_04364: I had already checked it (06:54 PM) Buffy_04364: and am running now (06:54 PM) Ensign Software: Delete generated ticks from midnight til NOW. (06:54 PM) Ensign Software: Run check box will enable live tick creation. (06:55 PM) Ensign Software: the HOLE in the process is the delay between clicking Delete and rechecking RUN (06:55 PM) Ensign Software: neither is going to fill that time period, so we do want RUN to be clicked promptly after clicking Delete, like within the minute or so, so as to not introduce difference (06:56 PM) Buffy_04364: ok I see (06:56 PM) Ensign Software: we are all on the same thread, but if buffy clicks 45 seconds sooner than me then she sees the ticks 45 seconds before I will see them (06:56 PM) Buffy_04364: should do delete then run right after to avoid a hole (06:56 PM) Buffy_04364: 56180 (06:56 PM) Buffy_04364: 56190 (06:56 PM) Ensign Software: so the unison click to run was so we all see them at the same time of creation (06:56 PM) Buffy_04364: ok got it (06:57 PM) Ensign Software: any questions about the 6 step process (06:57 PM) Buffy_04364: so to fix - as a guess - uncheck run - keep same number - then click delete and do run on a countdown as quickly as possible (06:57 PM) Ensign Software: Kimball thought it would really help to have the instructions on the form with the controls for it (06:58 PM) Buffy_04364: if we are way off (06:58 PM) Ensign Software: no buffy, (06:58 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it sure is (06:58 PM) Buffy_04364: great idea of his (06:58 PM) Buffy_04364: nice to not need to do the no connection thing too (06:58 PM) Ensign Software: the fix is to do all 6 steps again. (06:58 PM) Buffy_04364: and demo on its own window (06:58 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (06:58 PM) Ensign Software: if you stop run, and then restart it you are on a different random number sequence and others cannot sync to you because they too would have to stop and restart. (06:59 PM) Buffy_04364: delete is in there too (06:59 PM) Buffy_04364: not just start and stop (06:59 PM) Ensign Software: so to have sync ability, get going in unison and then leave it running, until you are willing to do all 6 steps (06:59 PM) Buffy_04364: run button (06:59 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (06:59 PM) Buffy_04364: oh that is right you changed it so the seed is the last price (06:59 PM) Buffy_04364: that is what I forgot (06:59 PM) Buffy_04364: gotcha (07:00 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (07:00 PM) Ensign Software: ok, now another thing (07:00 PM) Buffy_04364: so we should all be pretty close now (07:00 PM) Ensign Software: rate of tick generation is one tick per second (07:00 PM) Roger Schelling: oh (07:00 PM) Ensign Software: this should allow you to use your higher constant tick charts (07:01 PM) Ensign Software: instead of down stepping them to smaller constants (07:01 PM) Buffy_04364: good change Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (07:01 PM) Buffy_04364: some gringing at 7t and always getting asked if I really trade that small a TF (07:01 PM) Ensign Software: I posted a comparison chart on dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart today and said one was real and one was fake. (07:02 PM) Buffy_04364: and you fooled me! (07:02 PM) Tom_B: me too (07:02 PM) Ensign Software: the fake was generated by this DEMO simulator and is the TOP chart in the pair. JNPR is the real chart in the lower half of the image. both are showing 5 minute bars for today. (07:02 PM) Roger Schelling: Buffy, How many ticks per minute in NQ in 1st 90 mins ? (07:02 PM) Roger Schelling: average? (07:02 PM) Ensign Software: though there was uncanny correlation and it looked so good a couple guessed wrong as to which was the real symbol data set. (07:03 PM) Roger Schelling: ok (07:03 PM) Buffy_04364: tom no clue what you are asking (07:03 PM) Buffy_04364: must be missing somehitng (07:03 PM) Tom_B: i didn't ask anything (07:03 PM) Ensign Software: 200 to 400 roger (07:03 PM) Roger Schelling: ok (07:03 PM) Ensign Software: but many can be at same price (07:04 PM) Ensign Software: that makes for more constant tick bars however. (07:04 PM) Buffy_04364: paltalk put your name beside the question (07:04 PM) Roger Schelling: But still, it's patttern recogniton, the key to this (07:04 PM) Buffy_04364: silly thing (07:04 PM) Ensign Software: good point. key is patterns not speed of bar creation (07:04 PM) Roger Schelling: yes (07:04 PM) Buffy_04364: oh oh is someone talking? (07:06 PM) Ensign Software: buffy which workspace should I open? (07:06 PM) Ensign Software: which are you looking at? (07:06 PM) Tom_B: Howard ...whenever we sync & delete worspace must be closed, just to verify (07:06 PM) Ensign Software: yes tom, close workspace, sync, and then open workspace (07:06 PM) Tom_B: k,tnx (07:06 PM) Ensign Software: DO NOT BE ALARMED THAT IT TAKES TIME TO REOPEN THE CHARTS (07:07 PM) Roger Schelling: ahh ok (07:07 PM) Ensign Software: they are rebuilding from the tick pool and that can take longer and longer if you generated for more and more days. Today is a good selection to use for this very reason. (07:07 PM) Ensign Software: once charts are opened, they resave DEMO files and then will open faster when you open the workspace again (07:08 PM) Ensign Software: the will then open like regular charts. and just need to be brought current. (07:08 PM) Ensign Software: since DEMO can tick during real time markets now, you can just leave it running and have the same charts as everyone who syncs on 60000 for this morning midnight. (07:09 PM) Ensign Software: what chart are you looking at buffy, and we can compare time stamps and bar values (07:09 PM) Tom_B: how will that effect processors... (07:09 PM) Buffy_04364: demoemail works (07:09 PM) Roger Schelling: yes the dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart post is very good, so much education in dealing with these pattterns without the pressure of "money" or influencing someone in "live market". Good ole Ernmore trap in that example. (07:09 PM) Ensign Software: another thing suggest and implemented was to have all demo bars timestamped with Central times regardless of which time zone we all use . (07:10 PM) Ensign Software: that way we can talk about specific bars by their time stamp (07:10 PM) Tom_B: or is it like just another symbol being collected ? (07:10 PM) Buffy_04364: 15T (07:10 PM) Buffy_04364: 56880 (07:10 PM) Buffy_04364: 568900 (07:10 PM) Roger Schelling: oh . why not use Eastern Time. JMHO (07:10 PM) Buffy_04364: 568900 (07:10 PM) Buffy_04364: 56900 (07:10 PM) Buffy_04364: 56920 (07:11 PM) Buffy_04364: 56930 (07:11 PM) Ensign Software: k, i am opening demoemai workspace. (07:11 PM) Ensign Software: do you want me to change the constant tick times of these charts (07:11 PM) Ensign Software: 7t may not be wanted now?? (07:11 PM) Tom_B: I don't remember a GO.. (07:11 PM) Roger Schelling: Ok Buffy u have to memorize ALL !& PATTERNS and be able to call them LIVE! LOL (07:11 PM) Buffy_04364: 15T Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (07:11 PM) Roger Schelling: ALL 17 (07:11 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (07:12 PM) Ensign Software: impossible to memorize 17 patterns. (07:12 PM) Buffy_04364: he said to click run and that is when I clicked it (07:12 PM) Buffy_04364: I hope so (07:12 PM) Ensign Software: the engine really uses 38 patterns. (07:12 PM) Roger Schelling: Ok so it's a market :) (07:12 PM) Tom_B: it did not delete my existign demo data (07:12 PM) Buffy_04364: great (07:12 PM) Roger Schelling: very good stuff, anticipation (07:12 PM) Buffy_04364: don't have to wait for data anymore tom (07:12 PM) Buffy_04364: are u sure (07:13 PM) Ensign Software: and there is still the element of RANDOM ness that would make today's Minor Trend wave 1 not be the same Minor Trend wave 1 at any time in the future (07:13 PM) Buffy_04364: 57070 (07:13 PM) Ensign Software: though I use 38 patterns, you have never seen yet any two parts of my charts that would give you the impression that the patterns are being reused. (07:13 PM) Buffy_04364: 57130 (07:14 PM) Tom_B: Howard when we put 60000 in, isn't thatwhere we shd start with the prev day filled in ? (07:14 PM) Ensign Software: so, while you may know you are in a trend or a correction, DO not mislead yourself into thinking you know what is going to happen. You may know in general, but not in specifics. (07:15 PM) Roger Schelling: Ahh very good , so minor trend wave 1 is random created also. I'm telling you techniciansare going to like this! (07:16 PM) Buffy_04364: when I went all the way back tom that is what mine started at (07:16 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, I just got to 57130 going down so you seem to be 45 seconds ahead of me. (07:16 PM) Ensign Software: that is ok, I was slow to do my own instructions (07:16 PM) Buffy_04364: hit high of 57340 (07:17 PM) Buffy_04364: 57180 (07:17 PM) Ensign Software: but I still see what you see in the pattern, that on 15T it is rippling down from 57340 (07:17 PM) Ensign Software: ok, ISN'T THIS JUST WONDERFUL FOLKS !!!!!!! (07:18 PM) Buffy_04364: swing low of 57090 (07:18 PM) Buffy_04364: lower high maybe (07:18 PM) Buffy_04364: yes lower high going short (07:18 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (07:19 PM) Tom_B: VRY COOL...CAN we restart from current price...i'm behind (07:19 PM) Buffy_04364: yes each can teach their own template (07:19 PM) Ensign Software: we could use the live DEMO chart in all out training classes on wednesdays (07:19 PM) Buffy_04364: that is an idea (07:19 PM) Buffy_04364: sure should educate everyone this is out there (07:20 PM) Buffy_04364: class on weds? (07:20 PM) Ensign Software: class needs to be on DEMO use like today (07:20 PM) Buffy_04364: stop tightened Paltalk: Your friends are just a click away! Press the invite button NOW! (07:20 PM) Ensign Software: now another use of DEMO is we can find a generation of DEMO and tell you what to sync to and then we can talk about the formation and the study for the formation (07:20 PM) Buffy_04364: stop at 57050 (07:21 PM) Buffy_04364: 56950 (07:21 PM) Buffy_04364: stopped out (07:21 PM) Buffy_04364: looking to short again (07:21 PM) Ensign Software: Everyone would be able generate the same chart and see the same patterns!!!! (07:21 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (07:21 PM) Buffy_04364: tom where are you (07:21 PM) Buffy_04364: 56990 (07:22 PM) Tom_B: 56800 in uptrnd Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (07:22 PM) Ensign Software: 56700 (07:22 PM) Ensign Software: here (07:22 PM) Ensign Software: yes , low taken out (07:22 PM) Ensign Software: oK LETS ALL GO REsync and still use todays pattern (07:22 PM) Tom_B: can we resync to your current price (07:23 PM) Ensign Software: A) close workspace (07:23 PM) Ensign Software: B) menu SetUp | Demo (07:23 PM) Ensign Software: close all windows (07:24 PM) Ensign Software: do steps 1, 2 and 3 now (07:24 PM) Buffy_04364: seed is still the same not last price on chart (07:24 PM) Ensign Software: did run uncheck for you all?? (07:24 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (07:24 PM) Tom_B: y (07:25 PM) Ensign Software: correct, but can you UNCHECK it now? (07:25 PM) Buffy_04364: only thing different was today had gone to none (07:25 PM) Ensign Software: i cannot uncheck it, how about you? (07:25 PM) Buffy_04364: I unchecked it (07:25 PM) Tom_B: k here (07:25 PM) Ensign Software: how about you tom, buffy (07:26 PM) Ensign Software: change price to 60000 (07:26 PM) Buffy_04364: no problem unchecking it (07:26 PM) Buffy_04364: did change none to today though before trying (07:26 PM) Ensign Software: set TODAY (07:26 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, talk to me (07:26 PM) Buffy_04364: now can u uncheck run howard (07:26 PM) Buffy_04364: I have been (07:27 PM) Buffy_04364: I said no problem unchecking it (07:27 PM) Tom_B: no problem (07:27 PM) Buffy_04364: could you hear me? (07:27 PM) Tom_B: i can't (07:27 PM) tradeit: np lost long tome ago lol (07:28 PM) tradeit: time (07:28 PM) Buffy_04364: you can't hear me oh great (07:28 PM) Tom_B: roger ? (07:28 PM) Buffy_04364: howard no problem unchecking it but changed the none to today under days before I tried to do it (07:28 PM) Buffy_04364: can you hear roger tom? (07:28 PM) Tom_B: no (07:28 PM) Buffy_04364: roger is talking (07:28 PM) Buffy_04364: I was talking (07:28 PM) Tom_B: great (07:29 PM) Buffy_04364: howard talked (07:29 PM) Buffy_04364: heard them all (07:29 PM) tradeit: hear you fine too (07:29 PM) Tom_B: ptalk is getting revenge (07:29 PM) Roger Schelling: i talked (07:29 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (07:29 PM) Buffy_04364: never heard you tom (07:29 PM) Buffy_04364: oh oh where did howard go? (07:30 PM) Tom_B: bk (07:30 PM) Buffy_04364: got you (07:30 PM) Buffy_04364: right need to save often I do it as ABCD (07:30 PM) Buffy_04364: we think alike (07:32 PM) Buffy_04364: could you hear? (07:32 PM) Buffy_04364: howard? Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (07:32 PM) Ensign Software: sorry, had to reboot. do not know if my run check box was a cause of my problem or a victum. (07:33 PM) Ensign Software: go ahead and finish resyncing in this manner (07:33 PM) Buffy_04364: brb (07:33 PM) Ensign Software: on my mark all click the Delete button (07:33 PM) Ensign Software: yes I hear (07:33 PM) Roger Schelling: ok (07:33 PM) Ensign Software: will wait for buffy to return (07:33 PM) Ensign Software: after i get you synced I will sync later (07:34 PM) Ensign Software: just a delay in the tick sequene (07:34 PM) Buffy_04364: bk (07:34 PM) Ensign Software: delete ran thread through say tick 10000 (07:34 PM) Ensign Software: and then run resumes at 10001 (07:35 PM) Tom_B: :) (07:35 PM) Ensign Software: the time delay is what caused us to have different sync (07:35 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (07:35 PM) Ensign Software: we were on same thread, but some seeing the thread slightly ahead of others (07:35 PM) Ensign Software: like they have a faster feed, (true to real life too) (07:35 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is (07:36 PM) Roger Schelling: ok (07:36 PM) Tom_B: k (07:36 PM) Ensign Software: ok, we are going to clcik DELETE in sync (07:36 PM) Ensign Software: get ready (07:36 PM) Ensign Software: get set (07:36 PM) Buffy_04364: so next is to click on delete at same time (07:36 PM) Ensign Software: do it now (07:36 PM) Buffy_04364: ready (07:36 PM) Buffy_04364: done (07:36 PM) Ensign Software: now on my mark again (07:36 PM) Roger Schelling: done (07:36 PM) Ensign Software: we are going to recheck the run check box (07:36 PM) Ensign Software: get ready (07:37 PM) Ensign Software: get set (07:37 PM) Ensign Software: do so now (07:37 PM) Buffy_04364: done (07:37 PM) Roger Schelling: done (07:37 PM) Tom_B: k (07:37 PM) Tom_B: 55820 (07:37 PM) Ensign Software: ok, machine still weird, I am going to shut down again and will catch up to you all in a few minutes. (07:37 PM) Ensign Software: see I can sync later (07:37 PM) Ensign Software: by (07:37 PM) Buffy_04364: bye and thanks (07:37 PM) Buffy_04364: oh howard (07:37 PM) Tom_B: tnx Howard (07:38 PM) tradeit: thnks (07:39 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (07:40 PM) Tom_B: n (07:40 PM) Buffy_04364: yahoo (07:41 PM) Buffy_04364: we are close enough (07:41 PM) Buffy_04364: 56120 cinubg (07:41 PM) Tom_B: 5910 (07:41 PM) Tom_B: 5593 (07:41 PM) Tom_B: 55940 (07:41 PM) Buffy_04364: or forget a zero tom (07:42 PM) Buffy_04364: did you use 60000 (07:42 PM) Buffy_04364: oh ok (07:42 PM) Buffy_04364: i hhave high of 56130 (07:42 PM) Buffy_04364: how does that compare (07:42 PM) Buffy_04364: behind or ahead of you guys (07:42 PM) Buffy_04364: very tight range now (07:42 PM) Tom_B: ahead of me (07:42 PM) Buffy_04364: roger? Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (07:43 PM) Buffy_04364: is your last high 56130 (07:44 PM) Tom_B: y (07:44 PM) Buffy_04364: bar 1940 (07:44 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (07:44 PM) Buffy_04364: we are real close then (07:45 PM) Buffy_04364: that could be the diff (07:45 PM) Buffy_04364: tom what bar are you making (07:45 PM) Tom_B: 41 here also (07:45 PM) Buffy_04364: time wise (07:45 PM) Tom_B: 56000 (07:45 PM) Buffy_04364: then we are close also (07:45 PM) Buffy_04364: great (07:46 PM) Tom_B: y Paltalk: Go bannerless and support PalTalk! Subscribe today! Only $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (07:55 PM) tradeit: are we at 46610 now? (07:55 PM) tradeit: 570? (07:55 PM) tradeit: 80 (07:57 PM) Buffy_04364: if Howard doesn't come back (07:58 PM) Buffy_04364: not if he has two (07:58 PM) Buffy_04364: or not saved right roger Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (08:04 PM) Buffy_04364: tradeit you need to update right? (08:05 PM) tradeit: buffy i do but dont have any more guts to ask you for more help (08:06 PM) Ensign Software: k, while I was gone I reworked the Delete button to rename it Reset (08:07 PM) Buffy_04364: welcome back howard (08:07 PM) Tom_B: does the none, today, etc button change to none still auto ? (08:09 PM) Ensign Software: AND, as tom guessed it also does the RUN thing as soon as the generation is done (08:09 PM) drh_4: guys/gals ...i may need some computer help ...i am locked up and cant reboot ....it happened last week and i ended up taking the video card out for my second monitor and then i was able to reboot...any of you have any wizdom on what i could check for that is causing my computer to read .....fatal exception 0E has occurred at 0028:c0005338 in VXD VMM(01) + 00004338 (08:09 PM) Ensign Software: THEREFORE the only thing to sync in unison for clicking is the click on the RESET button now (08:10 PM) Buffy_04364: sounds like the video card might of died or if has memory something might be wrong with it (08:10 PM) Buffy_04364: just a guess (08:10 PM) Ensign Software: need to go home to eat (08:10 PM) Ensign Software: Tom, don has had it working in the past (08:11 PM) Ensign Software: this is a hardware crash, might be connector oxidation or temperature related (08:11 PM) Ensign Software: once it crashes, he cannot then reboot (08:11 PM) Buffy_04364: what is your OS (08:11 PM) Ensign Software: don, do the removal and the scrub of the card edge connectors (08:11 PM) Ensign Software: need to go home an eat (08:11 PM) Ensign Software: will return later if I can (08:11 PM) Ensign Software: bye (08:12 PM) dave_b_quik: i had a similar problem when i was using win98 drivers for my video card on win2000pro (08:12 PM) Tom_B: THanks SO MUCH Howard (08:12 PM) Ensign Software: though logged in, i am not here (08:12 PM) Roger Schelling: Thanks Howard , we will play (08:12 PM) dave_b_quik: win2k doesn't like non-win2k drivers (08:13 PM) Buffy_04364: sounds like you need to dig out norton (08:13 PM) Buffy_04364: do you do regualr maintenance (08:13 PM) Buffy_04364: is what I am typing showing (08:14 PM) Tom_B: y (08:14 PM) Roger Schelling: yes buffy (08:14 PM) Buffy_04364: tks Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! 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Click Here ========================================== (08:35 PM) Ensign Software: back (08:36 PM) Ensign Software: havsp, they can be negative but you will have to (08:36 PM) Ensign Software: type the neg number in instead of use the spinner arrows (08:37 PM) Ensign Software: let me check (08:37 PM) havsp: ok (08:38 PM) Ensign Software: will go fix so they can go negative with spinner (08:38 PM) havsp: thanks (08:39 PM) Ensign Software: problem is all four spinners now share common code and that is when the problem of not going negative started. (08:39 PM) Ensign Software: it can be fixed (08:43 PM) Ensign Software: have not retested yet, working on other items (08:43 PM) Ensign Software: fixing spinner for study shift and offset right now (08:43 PM) drh_4: howard is there a new version i should try to upload... (08:43 PM) drh_4: my machine is running (08:44 PM) Buffy_04364: can anyone hear me (08:44 PM) Ensign Software: sure don, but there will be a new version in about 10-15 minutes (08:44 PM) drh_4: ok..i'll wait... Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (08:46 PM) Ensign Software: havsp, the spinner goes negative now (08:46 PM) havsp: thanks Howard (08:47 PM) Ensign Software: with the OCT 15th version, DEMO works when the RUN check box is checked and is INDEPENDENT of the Connection setting. This means you CAN follow markets live, any time, and still track DEMO Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! (08:52 PM) Ensign Software: listening to you all puts more smiles on my face than going to a funny move. (08:52 PM) Tom_B: We're comedy... (08:52 PM) Ensign Software: you can RESYNC anytime tomorrow and see the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (08:53 PM) Ensign Software: we will resync 60000 Today and that is what you have on NOW so, just continue using it (08:53 PM) Roger Schelling: yes (08:54 PM) Ensign Software: ready to build new version for upload, give me 10 min (08:55 PM) Buffy_04364: ok so type in what you want to name it Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (08:58 PM) Buffy_04364: to go down (09:00 PM) tradeit: ok thnks guys see you ltr,have to take boys to boys scout (09:00 PM) Buffy_04364: bye tradeit (09:00 PM) Buffy_04364: yeah don sounds good (09:03 PM) Ensign Software: gottcha (09:04 PM) Ensign Software: truer words were never spoken!! (09:04 PM) Ensign Software: ' I don't know ' (09:05 PM) Ensign Software: please repeat (09:05 PM) Buffy_04364: lol ok Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (09:09 PM) Tom_B: selll (09:09 PM) Ensign Software: buyy (09:09 PM) Ensign Software: no, sellll (09:09 PM) Ensign Software: um... runnnn (09:09 PM) Tom_B: cvr (09:10 PM) Ensign Software: lol (09:10 PM) Ensign Software: NEW VERSIONS ARE READY TO DOWNLOAD (09:10 PM) Ensign Software: DOWNLOAD AND WE WILL RESYNC (09:11 PM) Ensign Software: raise your hand when you are ready with new version (09:12 PM) Ensign Software: steps 1) close workspace 2) download 3) go to menu setup | simulation (09:12 PM) Ensign Software: 4) settings: uncheck Run | price 60000 | Days= Today | Random (09:12 PM) Buffy_04364: rebooting (09:12 PM) Buffy_04364: got the lockup (09:12 PM) Buffy_04364: forgot to close DM (09:13 PM) Ensign Software: THEN wait for everyone to click RESET button in unison on my mark in a couple minutes (09:13 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, I am using your WinRos 6.1 on Win 98 and DO NOT HAVE the lock up you experience (09:13 PM) Ensign Software: so, seems to be platform related, not EW version or WinRos version related. (09:13 PM) Buffy_04364: not what I really want to hear LOL (09:14 PM) Ensign Software: well I had you e-mail me your winros and I have been running on it since Friday (09:14 PM) Roger Schelling: ok done all (09:14 PM) Ensign Software: yes, (09:15 PM) Ensign Software: yep, just reset this time around (09:16 PM) Ensign Software: yep (09:16 PM) Tom_B: very high end... (09:16 PM) Ensign Software: Kimball thought maybe people expect DEMO tab to run a demo of the program Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (09:16 PM) Ensign Software: roger get your hand up (09:17 PM) Ensign Software: drh, are you downloading?? (09:17 PM) Ensign Software: it goes down when you use the mic (09:17 PM) Ensign Software: havsp, are you downloading too or not? (09:18 PM) Ensign Software: really no need to wait for others, I guess, they can sync on their own later (09:18 PM) thenaz_2: oh im sorry what? (09:18 PM) Ensign Software: ok will wait a little longer (09:18 PM) thenaz_2: didnt know there was one. (09:19 PM) Ensign Software: fine we will wait a couple minutes yet (09:19 PM) Ensign Software: yes, thenaz, download new version of EW now and sync with us on the DEMO simulation (09:19 PM) thenaz_2: how do i get to it. (09:20 PM) Ensign Software: cats have learned HOW to get her attention (09:20 PM) Roger Schelling: lol (09:20 PM) Ensign Software: thenaz, are you using EW now? (09:20 PM) thenaz_2: nope (09:20 PM) thenaz_2: raven (09:21 PM) Ensign Software: go to the www.ensignsoftware.com web site and download eSignal version, install and then come back here for some real fun conversation (09:21 PM) Ensign Software: where are you at in the download havsp? (09:21 PM) thenaz_2: i keep getting knocked off line working on that right now .but i will as soon as i get it fixed ok? (09:22 PM) jam_27: Do we still have to have no connection checked instead of esignal? Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. (09:22 PM) Ensign Software: k, welcome anytime and we would love to help you and wet your appetite for using Ensign Windows (09:22 PM) Ensign Software: NO jam, new version can do DEMO and live esignal feed simultaneously (09:22 PM) Ensign Software: leave connection on eSignal (09:23 PM) Buffy_04364: bk (09:23 PM) Roger Schelling: jam. no need to be in "no signal" now (09:23 PM) Ensign Software: DEMO solely enabled by the RUN check box on the SetUp | Simulation form (09:23 PM) Ensign Software: ok (09:23 PM) Buffy_04364: can't you run demo without a feed howard (09:23 PM) jam_27: ok, (09:23 PM) Ensign Software: have all settings as RUN unchecked, 60000 price, Days = Today, Random (09:23 PM) Ensign Software: get that far (09:24 PM) Roger Schelling: then wait (09:24 PM) Ensign Software: 5 th and final step is to click on the RESET button which we will do in unison on my mark (09:24 PM) jam_27: yes (09:24 PM) Buffy_04364: can demo run without a feed howard (09:24 PM) Ensign Software: yes buffy, demo can run without a feed (09:24 PM) Ensign Software: ready roger?? (09:25 PM) Roger Schelling: yes (09:25 PM) Tom_B: y (09:25 PM) Buffy_04364: good my brother may be downloading the trial ensign (09:25 PM) Buffy_04364: runs on me right? (09:25 PM) Ensign Software: ok, get ready to click on Reset (09:25 PM) Buffy_04364: winME (09:25 PM) Ensign Software: get set (09:25 PM) Ensign Software: DO IT (09:25 PM) Ensign Software: wait for RUN to auto recheck (09:25 PM) Ensign Software: once you see RUN recheck close the form (09:25 PM) Ensign Software: and reopen your workspace or charts (09:26 PM) Buffy_04364: nice (09:26 PM) Ensign Software: remember they may be slow opening this 1st time because they have to rebuild from the generated (09:26 PM) Buffy_04364: should of warned us (09:26 PM) Ensign Software: data set (09:26 PM) Buffy_04364: nothing slow here (09:26 PM) Buffy_04364: should be close to what we looking at before right? (09:26 PM) Buffy_04364: it is (09:27 PM) Ensign Software: yes, buffy, we run EW on 2 machines with WinME here at the Ensign office (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: great now I can tell my brother (09:27 PM) Tom_B: 55290 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: for sure Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (09:27 PM) Ensign Software: should be the SAME as before with some data added while we downloaded (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 55260 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 55270 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 55280 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 60 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 50 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 20 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 10 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: 20 (09:27 PM) Buffy_04364: how close are we (09:28 PM) Buffy_04364: 55330 (09:28 PM) Buffy_04364: 55350 (09:28 PM) Buffy_04364: 55370 (09:28 PM) Ensign Software: havsp YOU WILL BE in SYNC (09:28 PM) drh_4: i'm just downloading noe (09:28 PM) drh_4: now (09:28 PM) Ensign Software: I can help hime (09:29 PM) Tom_B: wrkspce shd be closed (09:29 PM) Ensign Software: click menu SetUP | Simulation (09:29 PM) Ensign Software: uncheck RUN (09:29 PM) Ensign Software: type 60000 in for the price (09:29 PM) Ensign Software: select TODAY for the Days (09:29 PM) Ensign Software: Random will be showing for the 4th step (09:29 PM) Ensign Software: then click the RESET button (09:29 PM) Ensign Software: when the RUN box rechecks, close the form and open the DEMO charts (09:30 PM) Ensign Software: you will see what we see, give or take a few ticks being ahead or behind the others (09:30 PM) Ensign Software: drh, follow these same instructions when you have Oct 15th running (09:31 PM) drh_4: will do ... (09:31 PM) Ensign Software: click 2nd button for charts panel (09:31 PM) Ensign Software: if DEMO is not on the left side list, type DEMO in the Enter Symbol field and do not press ENTER (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL howard asking hmself and answering himself (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (09:31 PM) Ensign Software: instead click the ADD button above the field (09:31 PM) Buffy_04364: drh you must be the other ensign software (09:32 PM) Ensign Software: once DEMO is on the chart list you can double click on a time in the times list and that DEMO chart will be shown (09:32 PM) Ensign Software: did not understand havsp, say again (09:32 PM) drh_4: ??? (09:32 PM) Ensign Software: ok, don (09:33 PM) Ensign Software: is oct 15th running (09:33 PM) drh_4: not yet... (09:33 PM) Buffy_04364: giggle (09:33 PM) drh_4: still downloading (09:33 PM) Ensign Software: tell me when (09:33 PM) drh_4: will do (09:34 PM) drh_4: ok...ready (09:34 PM) Tom_B: n (09:35 PM) Ensign Software: don, click menu SetUp | Simulation (09:35 PM) Ensign Software: buffy try reentering room (09:36 PM) drh_4: ok...gone through everything but hit the reset button .... (09:36 PM) Ensign Software: don, we want RUN unchecked. click it if it is checked (09:36 PM) Ensign Software: go ahead and click RESET (09:36 PM) drh_4: mine was unchecked (09:37 PM) Ensign Software: when RUN rechecks, close form and open DEMO chart and see what we all see, that simple and can be done with live feed connection still to the DTN receiver Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (09:37 PM) Ensign Software: 55630 (09:37 PM) Ensign Software: 10 (09:37 PM) Ensign Software: 5580 (09:37 PM) Ensign Software: 90 (09:37 PM) drh_4: i opened my demoemail workspace is that ok..or shouldnt i have done that (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: 5580 (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: 70 (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: 60 (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: 55520 (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: 40 (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: 60 (09:38 PM) drh_4: looks like my prices are the same as yours (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: great don, (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: you are with us (09:38 PM) Ensign Software: now wasn't that better than buffy sending files like Saturday (09:39 PM) drh_4: yes... (09:39 PM) Tom_B: phone (09:40 PM) Ensign Software: I was about 20 ticks behind buffy (09:40 PM) Ensign Software: yes you can (09:41 PM) Ensign Software: if you workspace has the charts all in a symbol GROUP (09:41 PM) Ensign Software: ok, would be great to have training session on retro (09:41 PM) Ensign Software: havsp, if the chart in your workspace are all the same symbol group then you can switch symbol to DEMO (09:42 PM) drh_4: get short (09:42 PM) Ensign Software: and retain the rest of the workspace characteristics (09:42 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, which chart should I be watching with you? (09:43 PM) Buffy_04364: whoops still need that 4M pyra (09:43 PM) Buffy_04364: 1M for roger (09:43 PM) Ensign Software: -50, -57, -150, -300 (09:43 PM) jam_27: Buffy, have demo running, now I need a copy of your template, where do I find it? (09:43 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (09:43 PM) Ensign Software: ok, drop 7T and replace it with 1-min (09:44 PM) Buffy_04364: 50/75/150/300T for me (09:44 PM) Ensign Software: -50 tick will be almost identical to 1 min (09:44 PM) Buffy_04364: just like real time (09:44 PM) havsp: ok (09:44 PM) Ensign Software: k (09:44 PM) Ensign Software: will do the same shortly Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. (09:52 PM) Ensign Software: thanks, music to my ears, food for my soul (09:53 PM) Ensign Software: keep talking, so I can learn your symbols (09:54 PM) Ensign Software: so 50T top bar is green band now (09:54 PM) Ensign Software: 8:53 here (09:57 PM) wotten: hello (09:57 PM) wotten: this demo symbol.... (09:58 PM) wotten: is this a tool to use while practicing with indicatorts? Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (09:59 PM) wotten: yes... (09:59 PM) elly_34: good evening (09:59 PM) Tom_B: BYE all, must go (09:59 PM) wotten: can the data be changed to the NQ? (09:59 PM) wotten: bye tom (10:00 PM) Buffy_04364: can you hear me elly (10:00 PM) Buffy_04364: ? (10:00 PM) wotten: repeat please (10:00 PM) Buffy_04364: demo is the only symbol that runs like RT (10:00 PM) Buffy_04364: make believe it is the nq (10:01 PM) elly_34: buffy trying to plug my headphones in (10:01 PM) elly_34: sed (10:01 PM) Buffy_04364: ooh ok (10:01 PM) elly_34: sec (10:01 PM) Roger Schelling: gotta short this at 557. stopp 558 ? (10:01 PM) Buffy_04364: well there is a new version to download also (10:02 PM) elly_34: damn not working (10:02 PM) Buffy_04364: ok it is those minute charts (10:03 PM) wotten: when does the demo data start? (10:04 PM) Ensign Software: wotten, the demo data set is autogenerated and for all is consistent when we are in sync by using the same generator thread (10:04 PM) Buffy_04364: I need a coffee brb (10:05 PM) Ensign Software: feels like the real McCoy doesn't it (10:05 PM) Ensign Software: gottcha (10:06 PM) elly_34: gonna reboot, no sound (10:06 PM) Ensign Software: did it touch 55800?? (10:06 PM) Jesse888: hey hey and more hays (10:06 PM) Ensign Software: is see 55790 but not 800 (10:07 PM) Ensign Software: maybe I am 20 ticks behind you too (10:07 PM) Ensign Software: or did you just bail? (10:07 PM) havsp: yes 800 here (10:07 PM) wotten: why isn't my data close to everyone else's (10:07 PM) Ensign Software: k, now I am to 55810 (10:08 PM) wotten: 50290 (10:08 PM) Ensign Software: wotten, you have EW?? Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (10:08 PM) Ensign Software: and did you download a new version in last 30 minutes?? (10:09 PM) wotten: yes ensign (10:09 PM) Ensign Software: ok, if you want to sync with the rest of us click menu SetUp | Simulation (10:09 PM) wotten: no download (10:09 PM) Ensign Software: oh, go download and then you can sync to the same DEMO we are watching right now and talking about (10:10 PM) wotten: ok brb (10:10 PM) Ensign Software: k (10:10 PM) Buffy_04364: now roger see how the stoch lines all lined up for down (10:10 PM) Buffy_04364: that is the time to go short (10:11 PM) Buffy_04364: broke through pyra BOS also (10:11 PM) Roger Schelling: good call (10:12 PM) Buffy_04364: so bars still have two red circles on your 1m (10:12 PM) Buffy_04364: right? (10:12 PM) Buffy_04364: this system can be as novice or as pro as you want it to be or in the mood to trade (10:12 PM) Ensign Software: so we are going short are we?? (10:12 PM) Buffy_04364: still two red cirlces (10:13 PM) Buffy_04364: we are short (10:13 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (10:14 PM) Buffy_04364: great job here howard so much better than other demo (10:14 PM) Ensign Software: the anti-greeenspan version (10:14 PM) Ensign Software: well, let me go make a new version (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: going to teach patience better (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: ok two green circles on 50T (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: will tighten (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: he is great cause he listens to ideas and then finds better ways to do them (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: ok stop tightened on 1m also (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: cause of two green circles (10:15 PM) Ensign Software: what is neat is that we all are in sync, give or take a few seconds on the clock (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: now remember I HATE given back any money (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: rather re enter (10:15 PM) Buffy_04364: out (10:15 PM) Ensign Software: I seem to be 45 seconds behind you all, so when you went short, I got a higher and better price LOL (10:15 PM) drh_4: lol (10:16 PM) drh_4: you must be ahead of us a little buffy (10:16 PM) Ensign Software: would T.Lo students like to do something like this?? (10:16 PM) drh_4: there i got the 2 green circles (10:16 PM) Ensign Software: better yet, would T herself be interested?? (10:16 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (10:16 PM) Buffy_04364: now ready to short again if verified (10:16 PM) Buffy_04364: short again (10:16 PM) Ensign Software: me too, just got 2 green circles now (10:16 PM) Buffy_04364: I have no clue howard (10:16 PM) drh_4: ok bufffy give us your play by play ...with the 2 green circles (10:16 PM) Roger Schelling: i as watching the 15 min stoc bounce off the down Bline , Buffy, just did not get the right time (10:16 PM) Buffy_04364: haven't been in there in a long time (10:16 PM) Ensign Software: short again where?? (10:16 PM) Buffy_04364: roger might know (10:17 PM) Buffy_04364: on what TF (10:17 PM) Buffy_04364: roger I can't do anything greater than 1 minute and make as much sorry (10:18 PM) Buffy_04364: make more on tick charts (10:18 PM) Buffy_04364: on the 50T (10:18 PM) Buffy_04364: whould of set the SS at 552.75 (10:18 PM) Ensign Software: yes (10:18 PM) Buffy_04364: yes don Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (10:18 PM) Buffy_04364: that is what I understand also (10:19 PM) Ensign Software: no problem (10:19 PM) Ensign Software: yes (10:19 PM) Ensign Software: just finished 4 up bars, now have 1st down red bar (10:20 PM) Ensign Software: 2nd d red (10:21 PM) Ensign Software: well it is tanking (10:21 PM) Ensign Software: so these are good simulations to play Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (10:24 PM) Ensign Software: putting new lows at 54910 (10:28 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (10:28 PM) wotten: ok ...how do you sync? Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. Click Here ========================================== (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: ok, wotten (10:30 PM) Buffy_04364: ty (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: click menu SetUp | Simulation (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: uncheck the RUN box if you find it is checked (10:30 PM) wotten: ok (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: enter 60000 as the Price (10:30 PM) wotten: ok (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: select TODAY as the Days (10:30 PM) wotten: ok (10:30 PM) Ensign Software: leave RANDOM as the phase (10:31 PM) wotten: ok (10:31 PM) Ensign Software: then click the RESET button and want for RUN to recheck (10:31 PM) Ensign Software: wait for RUn to recheck (10:31 PM) Ensign Software: close form when it does recheck (10:32 PM) Ensign Software: then open the charts you want to see for a symbol called DEMO (10:32 PM) havsp: take profits go long (10:32 PM) Ensign Software: buffy, I think your have faster tick generation by having a faster computer or platform (10:33 PM) Ensign Software: we get the same ticks, but not as quickly as you and you do seem to be gaining on us (10:33 PM) wotten: w2k here (10:33 PM) Ensign Software: the ticks are generated using a timer to trigger their creation (10:34 PM) wotten: yes i have 512m 1.7 ghz piv (10:34 PM) Ensign Software: i am win 98 300 mhz (10:34 PM) Ensign Software: oh, well, we are still pretty in sync (10:34 PM) Ensign Software: ok, I agree (10:34 PM) 1der: Hi Buffster :) (10:34 PM) Roger Schelling: 600 MHZ (10:35 PM) 1der: :)))))) (10:35 PM) Roger Schelling: w98 (10:35 PM) 1der: me (10:35 PM) 1der: W2K Pro, no ensign (10:35 PM) Ensign Software: rog, you and I seem to be the same, behind buffy (10:35 PM) Roger Schelling: yes Howard (10:35 PM) 1der: really? (10:35 PM) 1der: What is this?? (10:36 PM) 1der: demo (10:36 PM) 1der: wow! (10:36 PM) 1der: synched up charts? (10:36 PM) 1der: sounds nice (10:36 PM) havsp: reverse back short (10:37 PM) 1der: I feel old, do not feel like I can learn another charting program!!!! (10:37 PM) Ensign Software: ooops (10:37 PM) 1der: hmmmmm.. (10:37 PM) 1der: ensign.com?? (10:37 PM) Ensign Software: www.ensignsoftware.com (10:37 PM) Roger Schelling: ensignsoftware.com (10:37 PM) 1der: thx howard (10:37 PM) Ensign Software: welcome (10:38 PM) Ensign Software: i bought lots on the tip 'screaming long' (10:38 PM) Roger Schelling: good to see ya here, 1 der, HELP! ME ! :) (10:38 PM) 1der: Roger, then we both gonna drown!!! (10:38 PM) tko_1: Hi, (10:38 PM) Roger Schelling: lol (10:38 PM) Ensign Software: ok, I see we need another tweak parameter (10:38 PM) Roger Schelling: naa we make it! (10:39 PM) 1der: Roger :) (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: workspace and template (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: ok (10:39 PM) Buffy_04364: right sorry getting late Paltalk: ========================================== Looking for a needle in a haystack? Copernic 2001 Basic will find it! Search all the major search engines at once. COPERNIC 2001 BASIC, for FREE! Click Here ========================================== (10:39 PM) Ensign Software: need new tweak parameter of the timer interval (10:40 PM) Ensign Software: for my platform every 970 milliseconds might match buffy if she was slightly longer like every 980 milliseconds (10:40 PM) Ensign Software: through trial and error we could keep increasing her timer interval until she stopped 'racing' ahead of the rest of the pack (10:42 PM) Ensign Software: just made new top 55040 (10:42 PM) Ensign Software: just finished 9 up bars and 2 sideways small range red bars on 50T (10:42 PM) Ensign Software: so you are gaining on me (10:43 PM) Ensign Software: leaving me further behind (10:43 PM) Ensign Software: top was 55120 (10:43 PM) Roger Schelling: same as Howard (10:43 PM) Ensign Software: at :39 minutes (10:44 PM) Ensign Software: yes (10:44 PM) Roger Schelling: k (10:44 PM) havsp: yes (10:45 PM) Ensign Software: did you have last swing top at :39 minutes and 55120 price (10:45 PM) havsp: yes (10:45 PM) Roger Schelling: yes (10:45 PM) Roger Schelling: exactly (10:45 PM) havsp: reversed just right (10:45 PM) Ensign Software: no at 50% of last swing up (10:45 PM) Ensign Software: 54660 area (10:46 PM) havsp: good (10:46 PM) Ensign Software: still 54520 for me (10:46 PM) Ensign Software: 300 higher (10:46 PM) Ensign Software: but dropping (10:47 PM) Ensign Software: tomorrows wall street journal has been posted (10:48 PM) jam_27: Howard, if I close my program , will I still be in sync tomorrow. (10:48 PM) 1der: hold on chk'g now (10:48 PM) Ensign Software: what was ? again (10:49 PM) Ensign Software: that is correct, tomorrow use sync days of Yesterday (10:49 PM) 1der: rec'd files (10:50 PM) 1der: Has been Buffy :) Paltalk: ========================================== CallWave has developed the Internet Answering Machine, a FREE alternative to a dedicated modem line, and available to Internet users nationwide! It can be up and running in minutes by Clicking Here CallWave........It's a lot better than a busy signal! ========================================== (10:51 PM) 1der: been good. Treading water though in these weird mkyts (10:51 PM) 1der: at least not going backwards LOL! (10:51 PM) 1der: Been there most of the last few weeks Roger (10:52 PM) Buffy_04364: yes Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (10:55 PM) havsp: reverse back long (10:58 PM) Ensign Software: thanks for posting 50T chart buffy (10:59 PM) Ensign Software: from it I see your swing high to 55120 was midway between 22:30 and 22:40, say 22:35. For me (10:59 PM) Ensign Software: the high was 21:39 or 4-5 minutes later (11:00 PM) Ensign Software: you had gained that much on me, at 60 ticks per minute you are now 250-300 ticks ahead of me (11:00 PM) Ensign Software: when we started it seemed like just 20-50 ticks ahead (11:01 PM) Ensign Software: so I need to go rethink of a way to keep differents platforms all in sync. The timer is not a very accurate way to do it, (11:01 PM) Ensign Software: but I can think of something (of couse) (11:01 PM) Ensign Software: course (11:01 PM) Ensign Software: anyway, have fun (11:01 PM) Roger Schelling: oh we will (11:01 PM) Ensign Software: will have better stay in sync idea tomorrow after I sleep on it Paltalk: ========================================== Home Equity Loans without Perfect Credit Get the home equity loan you need to pay off high interest debt. Over 185 branches nationwide Click Here ========================================== (11:02 PM) Ensign Software: say again 1dir (11:02 PM) Ensign Software: sound too soft (11:02 PM) Ensign Software: yes (11:02 PM) Ensign Software: click on the Download link on the left side (11:02 PM) Ensign Software: click the eSignal vendor link (11:02 PM) 1der: k (11:03 PM) Ensign Software: select the eSignal Oct 9th download of SetUpDBC.exe (11:03 PM) Ensign Software: and execute this file after you have it downloaded (11:03 PM) 1der: Great, Thx (11:03 PM) Buffy_04364: don't worry about it howard don't think we are off that much 150T only seems to be one bar (11:03 PM) Buffy_04364: 50T am on 54050 (11:04 PM) Ensign Software: still want to fix it so you don't give away the future and spoil it for the rest of us (11:04 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (11:04 PM) Ensign Software: if you always 'know the future' we listen to you and quit thinking for ourselves (11:04 PM) Buffy_04364: I can keep quiet ......well, maybe (11:04 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (11:04 PM) Roger Schelling: lol (11:05 PM) Ensign Software: quite is anti-helpful (11:05 PM) Ensign Software: quiet (11:05 PM) Buffy_04364: true howard would have to have someone else on the mike for sure (11:05 PM) Buffy_04364: looking for a long when indicators say to (11:06 PM) Ensign Software: well been fun, but I am going to bail and go watch Monday night football game, remainder of it. (11:06 PM) Ensign Software: bye3 (11:06 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra at TOS (11:06 PM) Buffy_04364: ok howard night (11:06 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks (11:06 PM) Buffy_04364: so so much (11:06 PM) Roger Schelling: oh k, enjoyed the time, c ya Howard (11:06 PM) Buffy_04364: beyond my wildest dreams (11:06 PM) Buffy_04364: what you came up with (11:07 PM) Buffy_04364: long (11:07 PM) Ensign Software: haven't discovered the Phase setting possibilities yet (11:07 PM) Buffy_04364: nope haven't (11:07 PM) Buffy_04364: won't be able to play tonight with it (11:07 PM) Buffy_04364: should be able tomorrow (11:08 PM) Buffy_04364: so giving everyone sync seed on mondays and fridays works (11:08 PM) Buffy_04364: covers the whole week (11:08 PM) Buffy_04364: and good times to do it (11:08 PM) Ensign Software: at least you can reset with a phase and let it run during the day and evesdrop on it once in awhile (11:08 PM) Buffy_04364: true thanks for pointing that out (11:08 PM) Buffy_04364: going to have to get use to it being able to run in background (11:08 PM) Buffy_04364: so use to either / or (11:09 PM) Ensign Software: you can then always resync on the 60000 Monday sync setting which will be THE setting for the next 3 days (11:09 PM) Buffy_04364: yes (11:09 PM) Ensign Software: and return to see what you have seen tonight (11:09 PM) Buffy_04364: then new one on friday (11:09 PM) Buffy_04364: covers the weekend (11:10 PM) Ensign Software: kind of nice how this data generation lets you return to a data set (11:10 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it is (11:10 PM) Buffy_04364: out did yourself (11:10 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (11:10 PM) Buffy_04364: tightening stops (11:12 PM) Ensign Software: take care, and good luck trading and when bad luck sets in (11:12 PM) Buffy_04364: warning on 50 (11:12 PM) Buffy_04364: T (11:12 PM) Ensign Software: just think Howard (11:12 PM) Ensign Software: gottcha (11:12 PM) Ensign Software: tonight's action was kind of choppy, yet tradeable and realistic (11:13 PM) Ensign Software: bye (11:13 PM) havsp: reverse back short (11:13 PM) 1der: Okay loaded, now how do I synch with you guys?? (11:14 PM) Buffy_04364: click on setup (11:14 PM) Buffy_04364: click on simulation (11:14 PM) Buffy_04364: uncheck run (11:14 PM) Buffy_04364: if not already (11:14 PM) Buffy_04364: put 60000 in the price window (11:15 PM) Buffy_04364: under days check on today (11:15 PM) Buffy_04364: number 4 should say random (11:15 PM) Buffy_04364: when you are sure that is all done and right (11:15 PM) Buffy_04364: click on reset (11:15 PM) Buffy_04364: run will become checked (11:15 PM) Buffy_04364: close window and go open the workspace I sent you (11:16 PM) Buffy_04364: might have to add the demo symbol by clicking on the second icon in from the left (11:16 PM) Buffy_04364: but think that can be done anytime (11:16 PM) Buffy_04364: if you already opened the workspace close all windows (11:17 PM) 1der: I have a zillion crisscrossing lines!!! Did CJ do this chart?? (11:17 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (11:18 PM) Buffy_04364: ok need to find out where you are (11:18 PM) Buffy_04364: no I did (11:18 PM) Buffy_04364: is it the 4M one? (11:20 PM) havsp: reverse back long Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! (11:28 PM) tradeit: goodnight ensign (11:29 PM) Buffy_04364: ultimate goal is 30/50/75/150/300 (11:34 PM) 1der: ok Paltalk: ========================================== Save up to 80% on inkjet cartridges! Lowest Prices and Highest Quality products. FREE SHIPPING with minimum purchase. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Click Here ========================================== (11:42 PM) Buffy_04364: bk but might have to leave (11:42 PM) Buffy_04364: nope won't be leaving (11:43 PM) 1der: Yikes! (11:44 PM) 1der: That is crazy (11:45 PM) 1der: LOL! (11:46 PM) 1der: Okay Paltalk: ========================================== Win an African Safari or the Vacation of your Dreams. 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