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(09:07 AM) elly_34: morning
(09:14 AM) Buffy_04364: morning all
(09:15 AM) dbphoenix: Morning.  Does anyone know if Teresa is holding her open house today?  So far the room is locked.
(09:15 AM) Buffy_04364: I haven't received notification of it db
(09:15 AM) dbphoenix: There was a month ago, but nothing since.
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(09:16 AM) Jesse888: morning all
(09:17 AM) Buffy_04364: hi jesse
(09:21 AM) Buffy_04364: I thought it was to be the first monday or tuesday of every month
(09:21 AM) Buffy_04364: but don't know how it ended up
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(09:23 AM) Jesse888: hi buffy
(09:23 AM) sjy0: i si china
(09:23 AM) BrainStorm: Good morning
(09:23 AM) Tom_B: gm
(09:24 AM) Jesse888: gm tom
(09:25 AM) Tom_B: Wish all a Great & profitable day..:)
(09:25 AM) Tom_B: gm Jesse
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(09:27 AM) BrainStorm: Any one recommend a good financial reports site ? and are there nay due today?
(09:28 AM) hawki: morning all
(09:28 AM) BrainStorm: hi hawki
(09:29 AM) jimmer49: NAPM for Sept due at 1000
(09:29 AM) hawki: reports today
(09:31 AM) Buffy_04364: www.briefing.com 
(09:31 AM) x21r: good morning
(09:31 AM) Buffy_04364: morning
(09:31 AM) BrainStorm: thanks buffy
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(09:33 AM) Buffy_04364: u welc
(09:35 AM) Buffy_04364: chop so far
(09:36 AM) BrainStorm: yes 1163 looks pivotal on the nas
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(09:39 AM) Buffy_04364: data froze anyone else at 1164
(09:39 AM) Tom_B: not here
(09:39 AM) BrainStorm: 1161.5 /1162 here
(09:39 AM) Buffy_04364: great
(09:40 AM) Buffy_04364: not the way to start
(09:40 AM) BrainStorm: might get a nice trend this am if congestion holds
(09:41 AM) BrainStorm: eSignal ?
(09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: it seems ok now
(09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: yes
(09:42 AM) Buffy_04364: but my isp loves to hang
(09:44 AM) ppusa: potential HOD if one thinks sell off
(09:44 AM) ppusa: don't know here
(09:45 AM) ppusa: had one PnF said hit 70 now???
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(09:47 AM) Daniel X: stay out ..spike almost certain
(09:48 AM) BrainStorm: choppy but in small short here
(09:48 AM) ppusa: went from 70 into sell signals PnF confirms HOD
(09:48 AM) ppusa: short but covered
(09:49 AM) ppusa: maybe re-enter
(09:50 AM) ppusa: don't know which way will u;timately break
(09:51 AM) BrainStorm: short covered +1.5 too choppy
(09:52 AM) dbphoenix: We may have to close that gap on the ES.
(09:52 AM) hawki: has anyone got stuck quotes on ib?
(09:52 AM) dloomis: ib stuck here also
(09:53 AM) dave_b_quik: ya, IB screwed up here
(09:53 AM) jimmer49: IB fine here
(09:53 AM) Daniel X: NQ pivot suppport 1 1151
(09:55 AM) BrainStorm: qsome quite large lost coming on the bid seemed to have dried a little now
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(09:57 AM) dbphoenix: If people are waiting for the Fed, this could be a pretty dull day.
(09:57 AM) BrainStorm: any one got positions open ?
(09:58 AM) dbphoenix: No. Not as long as we're in this range.
(09:59 AM) BrainStorm: guess retro is still short and in the money by 3 or 4
(10:00 AM) dloomis: my retro signal went short at 59 , stop 64 
(10:00 AM) BrainStorm: are you trading retro today dave or watching?
(10:01 AM) dloomis: if ib comes up i am trading
(10:02 AM) dloomis: retro inside bar, stop 61.5
(10:02 AM) dbphoenix: Looks like we might close that gap on the Naz.
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(10:03 AM) BrainStorm: very choppy 
(10:04 AM) Daniel X: time to flat line for Fed
(10:05 AM) jimmer49: NAPM 47, beat consensus
(10:06 AM) jimmer49: Prior month was 47.9
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(10:06 AM) ppusa: lower low nq
(10:07 AM) ppusa: daily
(10:07 AM) ppusa: no buy
(10:07 AM) dbphoenix: Excite being delisted.  Declaring bankruptcy.
(10:07 AM) jimmer49: My ISP now bankrupt - Excite @home
(10:07 AM) dave_b_quik: WoW
(10:07 AM) wayne_53: second company on the Nasdaq100 going bankrupt
(10:08 AM) BrainStorm: any one short of Excite ?
(10:08 AM) Daniel X: im short of excitement!
(10:09 AM) BrainStorm: I think I need to be short here agin hopefully get a retracement
(10:09 AM) dbphoenix: We're nearing the bottom of the Naz gap.
(10:10 AM) ppusa: big question - only reason for market rally would be yo fill gap or major turn around. ...second seems unlikely
(10:11 AM) ppusa: so fill gap doesn't look like it
(10:11 AM) ppusa: yet
(10:12 AM) BrainStorm: did you add on the inside bar david (either one!)
(10:13 AM) dloomis: no, I dont do that yet
(10:14 AM) louie_33: hi there
(10:14 AM) dloomis: I only see 1 indie bar
(10:14 AM) dbphoenix: I guess that was a bear flag on the ES after all.
(10:14 AM) jimbo_320: morning all
(10:14 AM) dloomis: after 945 any way
(10:15 AM) dbphoenix: Did we wake you, jim? :0)
(10:15 AM) BrainStorm: 5 min bar at 10.00
(10:16 AM) dloomis: right, brain-s, I see that one, but not the second you refered to?
(10:16 AM) BrainStorm: retrace at 9.45 also those the only two ...Im being confusing again
(10:16 AM) ppusa: long for scalp
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(10:16 AM) dave_b_quik: brain, i was having trouble with IB and didnt get an order in :-(
(10:16 AM) dloomis: gotcha
(10:17 AM) BrainStorm: hope it holds for you ppusa (will give a good short entry if it does:-))
(10:17 AM) ppusa: don't see a bottom yet. risky
(10:18 AM) ppusa: only see in hindsight i suppose
(10:18 AM) BrainStorm: 2B exit at 1158 fair way off
(10:18 AM) ppusa: just can't think of a reason to rally baring outside total chop day
(10:18 AM) jimbo_320: y ib a bit slow here too
(10:18 AM) ppusa: out on that bounce
(10:18 AM) dloomis: hopefully this 5 min bar will be a lower high to move the stop too
(10:19 AM) dloomis: swing hi, in other words
(10:19 AM) BrainStorm: yes and give me a nice hook to enter on
(10:19 AM) dave_b_quik: ya, some people are using a % retracement stop on retro when the last stop is to far away
(10:19 AM) BrainStorm: in fact next bar would be better!
(10:20 AM) dloomis: dbq - ya 50% would be a good bet
(10:20 AM) BrainStorm: nice near the 200 ma on the 5 bar too
(10:21 AM) dave_b_quik: ya, 18.5 points MFE from last stop is a big chunk o change
(10:21 AM) jimbo_320: retro short from 58.5?
(10:21 AM) dloomis: yes jimbo
(10:21 AM) dave_b_quik: 59 and 53
(10:22 AM) dave_b_quik: no you were right
(10:22 AM) dave_b_quik: 58.5 and 53
(10:22 AM) jimbo_320: we have some downside potential here if we can follow through
(10:23 AM) dloomis: 50% retrrace about 50-51
(10:23 AM) ann_87: where is retro stop now?
(10:23 AM) dloomis: 61.5 or so
(10:24 AM) ppusa: i would like to think markets could fill gap but unless i get some signal, would not buy in anticipation
(10:25 AM) david h_2: dave on the 15 min this am -when does retro say that we have gone from side ways to trend?
(10:26 AM) dloomis: stop here 50, maybe too low, but what the hay
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(10:27 AM) dave_b_quik: david, retro always buys/sells the breakout of the first 15m range if it's with the trend
(10:28 AM) ppusa: PnF doesn't look to bad on buy side here
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(10:31 AM) david h_2: dave so you enter on the second 15 min bar- but with the trend part is off the 5 min?
(10:31 AM) dave_b_quik: right
(10:32 AM) BrainStorm: well retro did better than me already
(10:32 AM) david h_2: thanks dave
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(10:33 AM) jimbo_320: same here, got here at 10.00 picked up 1/2 es point WOW
(10:35 AM) jam_27: Buffy , Where's O he was going to tell me how to trade today LOL
(10:36 AM) dloomis: retro long at 50?
(10:36 AM) BrainStorm: trying for a bo
(10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: I had a ? for orp too
(10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: Hi jimbo
(10:36 AM) Buffy_04364: been on phone guys 
(10:36 AM) jimbo_320: posted es 30min chart
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(10:37 AM) jimbo_320: hi buffy (slayer?)
(10:37 AM) BrainStorm: not sure david...if it is I think it would e 50.5 a tick above the bar
(10:37 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(10:37 AM) dave_b_quik: yes, dloomis
(10:38 AM) dloomis: ty dbq
(10:38 AM) dave_b_quik: (stopped out)
(10:38 AM) dloomis: right
(10:38 AM) Buffy_04364: thaks for folders dave
(10:39 AM) dave_b_quik: i managed to get them before you had to remind me
(10:39 AM) jam_27: anybody waiting for the es to break short
(10:39 AM) Buffy_04364: hmmm - sent email last night about 10 so guess that is still messed up
(10:40 AM) dave_b_quik: i have 22 e-mails i haven't gotten too yet
(10:40 AM) dave_b_quik: to
(10:40 AM) Buffy_04364: short 43
(10:40 AM) dloomis: retro short 42
(10:41 AM) dave_b_quik: 41.5 here
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: stop at 42.50
(10:41 AM) Buffy_04364: out
(10:42 AM) Buffy_04364: might get back in but ........
(10:42 AM) dave_b_quik: potential 2B too
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(10:47 AM) jimbo_320: dow selling off
(10:50 AM) Buffy_04364: BOS too
(10:52 AM) BrainStorm: declining vlume on the pullbacks (from short that is)
(10:52 AM) Buffy_04364: not easy to trade for sure at least here
(10:54 AM) ppusa: i think long but can't give anyone a valid reason
(10:54 AM) Buffy_04364: trend is down for sure
(10:55 AM) ppusa: yes and it is a trend
(10:55 AM) dloomis: stop be
(10:55 AM) jimbo_320: ppusa long from es 29, tight stop here
(10:55 AM) ppusa: not like chop down
(10:55 AM) dave_b_quik: wow, jimbo, how did ya do that?
(10:56 AM) jimbo_320: intuition?
(10:56 AM) Buffy_04364: :-)
(10:56 AM) dave_b_quik: ES 2B triggers at 1032.25 on 5m
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(10:57 AM) Buffy_04364: hope it isn't going to be like this until the feds
(10:57 AM) jimbo_320: out for +2
(10:57 AM) Daniel X: think it will be BUF
(10:58 AM) jimbo_320: when is fed meet?
(10:58 AM) Buffy_04364: not in the mood to scalp today
(10:58 AM) Buffy_04364: tomorrow
(10:58 AM) jimbo_320: 2pm?
(10:58 AM) Buffy_04364: usually announce about 2 - 2:15
(10:59 AM) jimbo_320: lets hope we can tightening bias, 0.25 base rise lol
(10:59 AM) AlRB0RNE: hi
(10:59 AM) ppusa: 30 tick 200 ma flattening out
(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: bouncing between TOP and BOS right now in pyra
(10:59 AM) BrainStorm: range on the 1 min very small for scalps
(10:59 AM) Buffy_04364: yep it is ppusa 
(11:00 AM) BrainStorm: might I ask which pyra settings you use buffy ?
(11:01 AM) ppusa: all markets holding lows, getting ready to turn up
(11:01 AM) Buffy_04364: sure 5.62 on 4M
(11:01 AM) AlRB0RNE: could  you advise software and broker for futures contracts trading?
(11:01 AM) Buffy_04364: I did post one of the comp in fridays folder over the weekend for all to see
(11:01 AM) BrainStorm: something else to watch in the background....trying to be minimal...easy to get information overload
(11:02 AM) jimbo_320: dang should of kept my long
(11:02 AM) ppusa: just sold mine
(11:02 AM) dloomis: retrolong 43?
(11:02 AM) dbphoenix: I think most people here use Interactive Brokers
(11:02 AM) ppusa: nana
(11:02 AM) ppusa: like to see another turn down
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(11:02 AM) BrainStorm: $tick nearing a potential turning point
(11:02 AM) ann_87: dloomis was wondering same 
(11:03 AM) BrainStorm: believes so david not sure about if you havent been stopped out of a short
(11:03 AM) dbphoenix: As for software, some use TradeStation, some use quote.com through QuoteTracker.
(11:04 AM) dloomis: for the retro system - I dont think the softare needs to be too sophisticated
(11:04 AM) dbphoenix: Others use Ensign software,
(11:04 AM) BrainStorm: $tick turned but everything really thin I think people go for breakfirst round now
(11:04 AM) dloomis: justa 5 and 15 min chart is all you need
(11:05 AM) AlRB0RNE: thanks dbphoenix
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(11:07 AM) jimbo_320: breakfast, what time do you get up BS :-)
(11:07 AM) BrainStorm: about 8.30 GMT
(11:08 AM) BrainStorm: but I have noticed a bit of a lull 10.45 to 11.15 eastern recently (maybe imagining nothing empirical)
(11:08 AM) ann_87: ticks new highs on day
(11:08 AM) BrainStorm: tick in a nicely defined up trend ann
(11:09 AM) jimbo_320: this market is starting to base bottoms better
(11:09 AM) BrainStorm: just not enough volume for my liking
(11:09 AM) jimbo_320: looking more healthy
(11:11 AM) ppusa: if we through Friday's range out narkets would look healthy
(11:11 AM) ppusa: threw
(11:11 AM) jimbo_320: through
(11:12 AM) elly_34: what happened to that last retro trade -5?
(11:12 AM) dave_b_quik: -1/2
(11:12 AM) dloomis: not yet, hoever the short 42 went out at down 5
(11:12 AM) jimbo_320: 32.5 support may have turned to resistance
(11:13 AM) elly_34: u got out at -.5 dave?
(11:13 AM) elly_34: what was that rule pls?
(11:13 AM) dave_b_quik: retro +12, +6.5, -5, -0.5, now has to stand aside for 5m breakout
(11:13 AM) dbphoenix: Nasdaq gap closed.
(11:13 AM) dave_b_quik: elly, retro's last short T 1141.5 was taken out at 1142 on the IB rule
(11:14 AM) Buffy_04364: at least pyra made it up to the next square  :-)
(11:14 AM) elly_34: i'm really not with it i had only 2 entries
(11:15 AM) elly_34: i guess i will look at your chart tonite to see where i went wrong
(11:15 AM) BrainStorm: potential long entry here not sure the risk reward makes it worthwhile and moving a bit slow for a scalp
(11:15 AM) dave_b_quik: maybe you were right and i was wrong, elly...
(11:15 AM) dloomis: currently L43?
(11:15 AM) dloomis: stop 38?
(11:16 AM) elly_34: well i doubt it
(11:16 AM) dave_b_quik: i had to skip that one because stopped out 2x
(11:16 AM) Buffy_04364: posted 3M
(11:16 AM) elly_34: can u tell me how u got the first exit for +12?
(11:17 AM) Buffy_04364: thanks for moving the comp pyra Dave
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(11:17 AM) BrainStorm: I like really like the way the 15min bar entry tends to keep you out of shorter term congestion...not sure the double stop out rule is strictly needed ?
(11:17 AM) dloomis: brains - wait till the chop comes and you will see the value
(11:19 AM) Ensign Software: hi
(11:19 AM) jimbo_320: we are in chop now?
(11:19 AM) dave_b_quik: elly the first retro trade was sell the 15m break @ 1158.5, out on 5m higher low @1147.5, so +11, not 12, sorry
(11:19 AM) ann_87: dave i thought last retro short was taken out on 41  = plus 1/2 based on possible 2b?
(11:19 AM) ann_87: so trail tight?
(11:19 AM) Ensign Software: if you have a moment, I would like to talk about ASI
(11:20 AM) dloomis: what is asi?
(11:20 AM) Ensign Software: if this is not the right place, I can do so in the Ensign room so as to not distract others
(11:20 AM) elly_34: 5 min higher low, i didn't know there was such a rule for exit i thought it had to be either an inside bar or a pull up with a swing high?
(11:20 AM) elly_34: no?
(11:20 AM) Ensign Software: ASI Accumulation Swing Index
(11:20 AM) dave_b_quik: elly, the 2B stop was farther away than the inside bar stop, which was 1142
(11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: I am not busy
(11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: gladly howard
(11:21 AM) Ensign Software: ok, I will talk to Buffy and others about ASI in my Ensign room.
(11:21 AM) Buffy_04364: k
(11:21 AM) elly_34: oic i missed the inside bar
(11:21 AM) elly_34: so it is the inside bar u used?
(11:21 AM) BrainStorm: certainly wont disturb me...probably prevent silly trades in this rather slow market
(11:21 AM) elly_34: i have something covering that bar up
(11:22 AM) Buffy_04364: brb guys really want tis
(11:22 AM) elly_34: alright so i see that
(11:22 AM) BrainStorm: In fact tempted to put a sell stop below LOD a buy above the congestion turn up the speakers and go for a nap
(11:22 AM) elly_34: then another short at 41.5?
(11:22 AM) ppusa: charts look like one more leg down
(11:23 AM) dloomis: elly - that's what i saw
(11:23 AM) elly_34: that was the next trade i saw
(11:24 AM) BrainStorm: pretty congested since 10.45 and volume not attractive either
(11:24 AM) ppusa: maybe if retro gets buy signal from lower, will be good
(11:24 AM) elly_34: dave where was the second entry pls?
(11:24 AM) jimbo_320: dave u have been busy on your mailing list i see. Keep sending the charts, excellent
(11:24 AM) BrainStorm: brb gooing to ensign
(11:26 AM) dave_b_quik: elly, retro 2nd was add to short at 1153
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(11:28 AM) elly_34: oic ok that's where i am confused, i am just tryhing to figure the one contract retro
(11:28 AM) elly_34: first
(11:29 AM) elly_34: ok i feel not so dumb
(11:30 AM) dave_b_quik: LOL
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(11:34 AM) ppusa: Dave you are adding off five minute chart, yes?
(11:36 AM) dave_b_quik: y
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(11:38 AM) ann_87: does retro buy here?
(11:38 AM) ann_87: 47 based on 5min 1 2 3 ?
(11:39 AM) ppusa: possibly high for this hour
(11:39 AM) ppusa: tried to sell long at 48, hit 47.5...had to settle for 46
(11:39 AM) jimbo_320: roger what did you say you though was good es volume for patterns to work?
(11:40 AM) jimbo_320: thought per min?
(11:40 AM) dave_b_quik: retro was sidelined waiting for 5m breakout, which we now have, so yes
(11:40 AM) ann_87: thanks dave
(11:40 AM) ppusa: markets have higher highs, higher lows
(11:41 AM) ppusa: off current LOD
(11:42 AM) ppusa: charts would look good one more low
(11:43 AM) ppusa: maybe i shold say better
(11:43 AM) ppusa: should -  more of a 1-2-3
(11:44 AM) BrainStorm: retro long 47 ?
(11:44 AM) ann_87: yes brainstorm
(11:44 AM) BrainStorm: thnx
(11:45 AM) BrainStorm: 46.5 looks like a bit of resistance
(11:45 AM) ppusa: S&P new recovery high
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(11:47 AM) BrainStorm: if we can pop up above 48 49 we should get a good move
(11:48 AM) BrainStorm: drop below 39 for downside
(11:49 AM) BrainStorm: often the longer the congestion better the move
(11:52 AM) jimbo_320: temted to go do some painting this is about as interesting!
(11:52 AM) jimbo_320: tempted
(11:52 AM) ppusa: Brain, agree but don't really think i would call this congestion
(11:52 AM) BrainStorm: tempted to go for a nap ...slightly hungover & a little groggy
(11:53 AM) ppusa: eyes are tired here
(11:53 AM) BrainStorm: on the 5 a higher congestion area that we are back in and a slightly lower overlapping one
(11:54 AM) jimbo_320: bk soon
(11:54 AM) BrainStorm: all pretty relative though Joe Ross (who I mentione in the yahoo retro group) has definitive ways of defining congestion
(11:55 AM) BrainStorm: lets call it a rabge then :-)
(11:55 AM) ppusa: perfect
(11:55 AM) BrainStorm: perhaps range is beter than a rabbage (whatever that is)
(11:56 AM) ppusa: flag?
(11:56 AM) ppusa: nq
(11:56 AM) BrainStorm: that'd do
(11:56 AM) BrainStorm: guessing retro is out somwhere on an inside bar rule?
(11:57 AM) BrainStorm: hmm maybe not?
(11:57 AM) dloomis: no I dont think so
(11:57 AM) dloomis: unless I missed some trades when I was rebooting
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(11:58 AM) ppusa: PnF looking for 16 point bounce off lows
(11:58 AM) BrainStorm: nope come close
(11:59 AM) BrainStorm: whish I still had a sofa in the study
(12:00 PM) BrainStorm: Any one know of a trading book store that compares with Traders Library ? there Uk shipping costs are too steep
(12:01 PM) ppusa: retro long isn't
(12:02 PM) ann_87: retro sell 42.50?
(12:02 PM) BrainStorm: believe so ppusa
(12:02 PM) dloomis: I agree 42.5
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(12:03 PM) ppusa: 2nd retest of low..if move up should be good
(12:04 PM) BrainStorm: agree ppusa though bo below could easily be lively
(12:04 PM) ppusa: Sept auto sales report due shortly - CNBC
(12:05 PM) jimmer49: Will not be good
(12:05 PM) BrainStorm: suspect that that is not what the market is waiting for
(12:06 PM) BrainStorm: fed tommorow 2pm ?
(12:06 PM) dloomis: yes bs
(12:06 PM) ann_87: not sure if retro would take short with the higher low higher high?
(12:06 PM) BrainStorm: I guess 50 basis points might be exiting
(12:08 PM) ppusa: don't think retro should take first move up on a day like this
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(12:08 PM) ppusa: actually 1syt move up was 42.5 break
(12:11 PM) BrainStorm: wonder where there are likely to be accumulations of stops? thats where we are likely to be heading
(12:11 PM) dloomis: buy stops at for sure
(12:11 PM) dloomis: sell stops at 3-38 or so
(12:11 PM) dloomis: at 50 for sure
(12:12 PM) Jesse888: long 42.5
(12:12 PM) BrainStorm: be easy to run things on this volume
(12:12 PM) Jesse888: oops
(12:13 PM) dloomis: retro short 42,5?
(12:13 PM) BrainStorm: not sure david
(12:13 PM) BrainStorm: guess so
(12:16 PM) dloomis: hey bs, do I know you by another nick, maybe?
(12:17 PM) Jesse888: hi dave
(12:17 PM) dloomis: hey jess
(12:17 PM) Jesse888: dave , da man
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(12:17 PM) BrainStorm: possibly not use to be a raven subscriber Nick Ali
(12:17 PM) dloomis: oh ya, I remeber YOU, hehe
(12:18 PM) BrainStorm: so of course you are known to me... alegend in your own lunchtime :-)
(12:18 PM) dloomis: for sure
(12:19 PM) dave_b_quik: oh, brainstorm is Nick Ali?  good questions/observations in the retro thread!
(12:19 PM) BrainStorm: dont know why I picked BS as a nickname...used it before....kinda silly for more serious forums
(12:20 PM) dave_b_quik: that's OK, we don't all have serious handles
(12:20 PM) Jesse888: lol
(12:20 PM) Jesse888: bs
(12:20 PM) dloomis: bs - a play on words?
(12:20 PM) BrainStorm: bs is probably more apt
(12:20 PM) dloomis: BoyScout is what I was thinking, always prepared
(12:20 PM) BrainStorm: though might be subject to the censor
(12:20 PM) Jesse888: i am full of it
(12:21 PM) dave_b_quik: not bovine exreta
(12:21 PM) dave_b_quik: excreta
(12:21 PM) BrainStorm: dave care to give us a few words of wisdom on what retro is doing on this range bound stuff on the 15 ?
(12:21 PM) ppusa: S&P chart showed due for that last drop. I bot just before. hate missing the bottom
(12:21 PM) BrainStorm: hehe
(12:22 PM) ppusa: hey BS, cal it congestion now
(12:22 PM) BrainStorm: not in for the bigger swing ppusa?
(12:22 PM) dave_b_quik: retro is happily sidelined, kickin back in the hammock on the beach
(12:22 PM) Jesse888: i have indigestion
(12:22 PM) ppusa: ?? actually long here
(12:22 PM) ppusa: playing PnF
(12:23 PM) BrainStorm: nice call ppusa
(12:23 PM) ppusa: thank you, thank you...i see I have a sell in at 51
(12:23 PM) ppusa: may lower it
(12:24 PM) Buffy_04364: bk
(12:24 PM) Jesse888: buffy!!!
(12:24 PM) BrainStorm: 200 MA on the 5 bar making strong top of the channel
(12:25 PM) ppusa: dow sp higher, why not nq?
(12:25 PM) BrainStorm: yes being a bit of a laggard
(12:25 PM) BrainStorm: thought it was the Nas thats meant to be the volatile play
(12:25 PM) ppusa: out again
(12:25 PM) Buffy_04364: time line coming up on the 4M
(12:26 PM) ppusa: maybe still a little arly
(12:27 PM) ppusa: maybe go now
(12:27 PM) BrainStorm: where is the next ensign entry dave ? 15 min making interlocking 1.2.3's up and down which clearly spells coongestion in that timeframe
(12:27 PM) BrainStorm: ensign = retro woops
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(12:30 PM) Jesse888: prgram keeps freeze up
(12:32 PM) ppusa: remember scalp talk Friday...15  minute has 1-2-3 off low....now maybe due for 1-2-3 down. Presently looks like higher but if turns down, i look for 1-2-3
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(12:34 PM) BrainStorm: Dave did you see y question o retro a page back ?
(12:34 PM) dave_b_quik: about re-entry?
(12:34 PM) BrainStorm: yes wondered if you have gone long ?
(12:34 PM) ppusa: Today i go to Burger King, my broker goes to Chart House
(12:35 PM) ann_87: minus 28 tiki
(12:35 PM) dave_b_quik: i have the 5m in an upchannel since 11:00 low, so need a decisive breakout from there before re-entry
(12:35 PM) dave_b_quik: ppusa, what time is scalp talk on Friday?
(12:35 PM) BrainStorm: gotcha
(12:35 PM) ppusa: was after market
(12:35 PM) BrainStorm: I lied about 200ma being top of the channel its the 50...re-done my chart colours
(12:36 PM) jimbo_320: bk
(12:36 PM) BrainStorm: 200 coming down to meet it quite possibly will pop off that
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(12:38 PM) ppusa: wake me in an hour and 20 minutes so I can go long
(12:39 PM) Daniel X: Jimbo b/e on that 29 lod next time!
(12:39 PM) BrainStorm: Hour twenty a golden number ppusa
(12:39 PM) jimbo_320: put a buy limit at 1140, your ebound to fill over lunch lol
(12:39 PM) Daniel X: well the lod is in as well as the hod  so not we're going for the middle!
(12:39 PM) BrainStorm: still recon the sell at 37 we'll see
(12:40 PM) jimbo_320: dan good pick huh
(12:40 PM) Daniel X: ha
(12:40 PM) jimbo_320: only went half a pos
(12:41 PM) Daniel X: i see
(12:41 PM) jimbo_320: anyone fancy a guitar tune?
(12:41 PM) Daniel X: sure anything Beatles
(12:41 PM) jimbo_320: which one?
(12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: sure - only scalpers can trade right now LOL
(12:41 PM) Daniel X: Imagine
(12:42 PM) jimbo_320: john leenon you mean
(12:42 PM) Daniel X: yah
(12:42 PM) jimbo_320: ok i'll give it a try, watch out for butterfingers though
(12:43 PM) jimbo_320: just practising
(12:43 PM) Daniel X: someone speak 4 sound test plz
(12:44 PM) Daniel X: good
(12:44 PM) Daniel X: thnx
(12:46 PM) ppusa: buffy sing too
(12:46 PM) Daniel X: kewl
(12:46 PM) ispec_rickm_1: imagine all the traders....
(12:46 PM) BrainStorm: /me claps
(12:47 PM) jimbo_320: thnakyou
(12:47 PM) Buffy_04364: long at 51
(12:47 PM) ppusa: drifted off and heard Jimbo cool
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(12:48 PM) ppusa: 15 point PnF just reversed
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: g
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: r
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: i
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: n
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: d
(12:49 PM) ppusa: LOD maybe in and run for the high or big sell off because next low gets PnF sell signals...take your pick
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: opps
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: p
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: u
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: d
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: n
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: i
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: r
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: g
(12:49 PM) Daniel X: ^
(12:50 PM) jimbo_320: 4 u guys
(12:50 PM) ppusa: pudnirg?
(12:50 PM) Daniel X: start from the bottom
(12:50 PM) Daniel X: read
(12:50 PM) Daniel X: up
(12:52 PM) ppusa: this was my objective but i did not hold out for it...rats
(12:52 PM) Daniel X:       d
(12:52 PM) Daniel X:      n
(12:52 PM) Daniel X:     i
(12:52 PM) Daniel X:    r
(12:52 PM) Daniel X:   g
(12:52 PM) Daniel X: na h too steep
(12:52 PM) BrainStorm: retro long ?
(12:54 PM) Buffy_04364: out +4
(12:54 PM) Daniel X: good
(12:54 PM) Daniel X: BUf
(12:55 PM) Buffy_04364: got tired of sitting on my hands LOL
(12:55 PM) Jesse888: out 54
(12:55 PM) Daniel X: PP do u use time limits on your trades?
(12:55 PM) elly_34: nice buffy
(12:56 PM) jimbo_320: could it be this market is finding fib retracement buyers, no theres a turn up 4 the book
(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: tks elly
(12:56 PM) ppusa: no Dan, not at all
(12:56 PM) jimbo_320: now
(12:56 PM) Daniel X: oh ok
(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra says tend up now if we an believe it
(12:56 PM) ppusa: obot in here
(12:56 PM) jimbo_320: 38 is es pivot
(12:56 PM) Buffy_04364: looking for reentry I think
(12:56 PM) ppusa: i saw throw out Friday and trade accordingly
(12:57 PM) elly_34: buffy when u gonna do an after hours on your method?
(12:57 PM) Daniel X: thnx Jimbo
(12:57 PM) ppusa: i sold 54.5 looking for 53 but settled 53.5.... rats
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(12:57 PM) ppusa: i SAY throw out Friday and trade accordingly 
(12:57 PM) Buffy_04364: long agains at 57
(12:58 PM) Buffy_04364: through tos also now
(12:58 PM) jimbo_320: sox is 3 off LOD
(12:58 PM) ppusa: move interrupted my nap
(12:59 PM) ann_87: ticks 702
(12:59 PM) jimbo_320: there 10 off my 29 long
(12:59 PM) Daniel X: yep
(12:59 PM) Daniel X: 8 off my 32
(01:00 PM) jimbo_320: u still long?
(01:00 PM) Daniel X: nope
(01:00 PM) Buffy_04364: not here either 
(01:00 PM) Buffy_04364: out at any sign of trouble
(01:01 PM) jimbo_320: shocking huh. we keep thinking this market is going to go down
(01:01 PM) ppusa: Pnf SAID BUY DOWN THERE
(01:02 PM) ppusa: now double top 10 point. nq goes a little higher to break double top, may be worth 10 point drop to reversal
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: lower high on 30t
(01:02 PM) Buffy_04364: also hit the TL from the 3m chart posted earlier
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(01:03 PM) ppusa: i've moved up from Burger KIng to Subway. My broker's going to "fine dining"
(01:03 PM) Daniel X: hhmmmm dip buy?
(01:03 PM) jimbo_320: this could be the third leg up on the 30min with clear air until 80
(01:03 PM) ppusa: kinda obot here
(01:04 PM) ppusa: nothing has gone positive yet
(01:04 PM) jimbo_320: posted es 30min
(01:04 PM) ppusa: look at tick chart
(01:05 PM) ppusa: too far above ma's
(01:05 PM) BrainStorm: which tick ppusa 30 ?
(01:05 PM) ppusa: ??
(01:05 PM) ppusa: y
(01:05 PM) ppusa: acrophobia
(01:06 PM) BrainStorm: pulled back nicely now though
(01:06 PM) Daniel X: JIMBO  JIMBO?
(01:06 PM) Daniel X: 3?
(01:07 PM) Daniel X: cap lock sorry
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(01:07 PM) ppusa: BS  pulled back nicely or pulling?
(01:07 PM) jimbo_320: latest one
(01:08 PM) Daniel X: #3
(01:08 PM) BrainStorm: looks like its just about finishe 
(01:08 PM) jimbo_320: tks
(01:08 PM) jimbo_320: still i am short from 40 !
(01:09 PM) ppusa: my feeling, if goes higher, i would look for a 10 point ddrop, and if doesn't i would look for a ten point drop. so either way i look for a ten point drop
(01:09 PM) Daniel X: lol
(01:09 PM) ppusa: looks to m e like higher but i don't care...someone else take trade
(01:10 PM) BrainStorm: 10 point drop is right back into congestion
(01:10 PM) jimbo_320: convinced of more down
(01:10 PM) Daniel X: ES holding the 9 min nicely on the 20 MA although i have itmodified 
(01:10 PM) ppusa: if doesn't go higher than here setup for late day tank
(01:14 PM) ppusa: highest bounce after HOD was 60 (beginning of today's sell off). This rally hit 59.5
(01:14 PM) dloomis: hey bs, did you like those buy stops at 50?
(01:14 PM) ppusa: dow higher
(01:15 PM) BrainStorm: 50.5 but looking for re-entry
(01:15 PM) jimbo_320: my IB market depth is screwy, i have next bids on es at 33.5, whats up?
(01:16 PM) BrainStorm: not comfortable on volume and the fact its lunchtime etc etc
(01:16 PM) jimbo_320: 2nd test of 40, if it goes above again i am out
(01:17 PM) BrainStorm: like to see a pull back to round about there and then up up and away
(01:17 PM) ppusa: S&P took out pullback low
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(01:17 PM) jimbo_320: nice clunk
(01:18 PM) ppusa: there it goes
(01:18 PM) ppusa: thank you thank you
(01:18 PM) BrainStorm: it'll syop at the top of the range :-)
(01:19 PM) BrainStorm: though clean turn off the 50Ma on the 15min chart
(01:19 PM) ppusa: i have been watching 1 minute Dow and S&P as well as NQ and it has given me a little more "insight"
(01:19 PM) BrainStorm: of course I guess we could go sideways for another 2 hours just a bit higher
(01:20 PM) ppusa: just picked up 2 ticks because S&P broke before nq
(01:20 PM) jimbo_320: still on pivot
(01:20 PM) ppusa: now i order the Subway "meal deal"
(01:20 PM) BrainStorm: yes jimbo
(01:21 PM) BrainStorm: tick chart shows it stutter there a bit on the way up too
(01:21 PM) jimbo_320: what tick are you looking at? nyse?
(01:21 PM) ppusa: between 46 and 50?
(01:22 PM) ppusa: tick chart not "tick"
(01:22 PM) jimbo_320: you mean peiod
(01:22 PM) jimbo_320: period
(01:22 PM) ppusa: i mean 30 tick tick chart
(01:23 PM) BrainStorm: yes
(01:23 PM) BrainStorm: dosent bode well either way small move up ... more congestion
(01:24 PM) jimbo_320: bloody lunchtime chops
(01:24 PM) ppusa: if don't get the 10 point pulback then this was buy
(01:24 PM) BrainStorm: $TICK moving up 400+
(01:25 PM) jimbo_320: trin 1.23
(01:25 PM) ppusa: think 10 point from higher so i was looking for a bit of sideways like this but again, someone else can take the trade
(01:26 PM) Buffy_04364: tks guys
(01:26 PM) ppusa: beautiful day here
(01:26 PM) rad29: how high will the market go...any idea guys?
(01:27 PM) Buffy_04364: fallish here
(01:27 PM) jimbo_320: all the buyers are out to lunch lol
(01:27 PM) ppusa: maybe i connect camera and show you
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(01:28 PM) jimbo_320: u in nyc ?
(01:28 PM) ppusa: ah ... no
(01:28 PM) BrainStorm: they only just came back from breakfirst too
(01:29 PM) jimbo_320: lazy lot traders huh
(01:29 PM) BrainStorm: so I hear
(01:29 PM) jimbo_320: another wall bites the dust
(01:29 PM) BrainStorm: anyone sell me a seat nice and cheep
(01:30 PM) jimbo_320: only 20 more to go...
(01:30 PM) ppusa: need USB hub
(01:31 PM) jimbo_320: stopped out
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(01:31 PM) jimbo_320: u can buy now
(01:31 PM) BrainStorm: someone gave me a USB camera havent connected it up either...didnt want people to know I wore a balerinas dress while trading
(01:31 PM) ppusa: wierdo
(01:32 PM) jimbo_320: we might just get a big up today
(01:32 PM) BrainStorm: stopped in at 60
(01:32 PM) ppusa: good job
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(01:33 PM) ppusa: fill gap at minimum
(01:33 PM) BrainStorm:  out 62 havent the appetite for it
(01:34 PM) BrainStorm: be very intyerested to review daves retro trades for today
(01:34 PM) jimbo_320: v.h.v.b on nqoos 3min
(01:35 PM) BrainStorm: nqoos full comntract jimbo ?
(01:35 PM) jimbo_320: z mini
(01:36 PM) BrainStorm: ahh OK DTN rather than eSignal ?
(01:36 PM) BrainStorm: excuse all my dumb questions
(01:36 PM) jimbo_320: well very high 4 lunch
(01:37 PM) trisha_99: anyone here use terra nova?  If so do you know the symbol for the NQ's?
(01:37 PM) david h_2: it is /nqt1
(01:37 PM) trisha_99: thank you
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(01:38 PM) BrainStorm: past the 1/3 fib from the way down jimbo
(01:39 PM) Daniel X: Jimbo u stil holdine the 40 short?
(01:39 PM) Daniel X: nnaaahhh
(01:39 PM) Daniel X: not u
(01:39 PM) jimbo_320: long now
(01:39 PM) BrainStorm: you flipper
(01:40 PM) ppusa: markets come back this far, i would think they would go positive at least for an instant
(01:40 PM) Buffy_04364: 3rd test
(01:41 PM) BrainStorm: ppusa seems likely  next place I see potential orders for the floor guys to run
(01:42 PM) jimbo_320: out for +0.5
(01:42 PM) ppusa: no more new highs in last few minutes Dow, S&P
(01:42 PM) ppusa: hanging out
(01:43 PM) ppusa: throw away charts, figure run at HOD
(01:43 PM) jimbo_320: hod breakout we will get a chance to get later
(01:43 PM) ppusa: new high sp
(01:44 PM) ppusa: dow too
(01:44 PM) Daniel X: cancelled 41.50 long
(01:44 PM) BrainStorm: nas 15 min pierced 20ma and not far to HoD now
(01:45 PM) BrainStorm: 200ma ratehr
(01:46 PM) ppusa: PnF acrophobia
(01:46 PM) Daniel X: 1168 pivot NQ
(01:46 PM) ppusa: HOD nq
(01:48 PM) dloomis: nq overnight high 78.5
(01:48 PM) ppusa: interesting...PnF acrophobia, but nq hits HOD...turn off charts and watch go higher??? or pb time
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(01:48 PM) Buffy_04364: 1169.43 pyra tos also
(01:49 PM) BrainStorm: acrophobia scared of water ? spiders ? HoD'd?
(01:49 PM) jimbo_320: should of kept my 29 long :-( +14
(01:49 PM) ppusa: heights
(01:50 PM) BrainStorm: yeah I was long some way back there wasnt too comfy with it
(01:50 PM) ppusa: hydro or hydra phobia water 
(01:50 PM) ppusa: spiders aracno?
(01:50 PM) BrainStorm: agro hieghts ?
(01:50 PM) BrainStorm: heights
(01:50 PM) BrainStorm: Hod's?
(01:51 PM) ppusa: acro = heights
(01:51 PM) ppusa: women = me
(01:51 PM) BrainStorm: thought it was agro...mind you Im semi illegitamate
(01:52 PM) ppusa: couldn't take markets positive after all that????
(01:53 PM) ppusa: how lame
(01:53 PM) Daniel X: shake out the non invited
(01:53 PM) ppusa: i need a cookie
(01:54 PM) Buffy_04364: me too pp make it chocolate chip
(01:54 PM) Buffy_04364: tks
(01:54 PM) Jesse888: throws ppusa a cookie
(01:54 PM) ppusa: pepperidge farm on sale $2.00 a bag...stocked up
(01:54 PM) BrainStorm: once this 5 min bar finished buy stop at 67.5
(01:55 PM) ppusa: could be a retest bar
(01:55 PM) BrainStorm: target HoD hehe
(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: is best taking regular stops now or just stop limits?
(01:56 PM) Buffy_04364: like thismorning
(01:56 PM) ppusa: want 10 point reversal
(01:56 PM) jimbo_320: tick trin well behaved so far
(01:56 PM) BrainStorm: 1've been using regular had a tinsy bit of slip but been choppy today limit prolly OK
(01:57 PM) Buffy_04364: tks
(01:57 PM) ppusa: if 10 tick reversal from here, other PnF gets sell sig
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(01:58 PM) ppusa: 3 point goes into a sell because last pullback low was 60.5
(01:58 PM) BrainStorm: hoping for another 5 min bar to bring my buy stop down (same as retro except dont have the orignal position!)
(01:58 PM) ppusa: what to do, what to do???
(01:59 PM) BrainStorm: bring buy stop to tick above current 5 min bar
(01:59 PM) BrainStorm: currently at the one before
(02:00 PM) BrainStorm: tough if it hits those previous swing highs will probably cancel and re-think
(02:00 PM) dloomis: how about a sell here at 59?
(02:00 PM) jimbo_320: l 39.5
(02:00 PM) ppusa: could go back into buy
(02:00 PM) BrainStorm: not really following retro closely david
(02:01 PM) BrainStorm: but it appears to be on the 15
(02:01 PM) BrainStorm: maybe still long though ?
(02:01 PM) ppusa: yes could easily reverse back up
(02:02 PM) ppusa: i had sold 61.5 and just reentered
(02:02 PM) rad29: did u sell again ppusa?
(02:02 PM) ppusa: position trade, has nothing to do with today
(02:02 PM) ppusa: was trying for 58.5 and gave up
(02:02 PM) BrainStorm: buy 65.5 sell 52 below last congestion I guess
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(02:03 PM) ppusa: at this point, market requires big picture look...Either we end of positive on day or new 52 week lows
(02:04 PM) BrainStorm: not being too scientific today and pretty much in and out...one day I'll break the habit...hopefully the next nice trend day
(02:04 PM) ppusa: 10 point revesal PnF occurred at 60
(02:05 PM) ppusa: yes Buffy, today was a bit obtuse
(02:05 PM) ppusa: sorry, Brain
(02:05 PM) BrainStorm: still looks like we are in an uptrend to me but I only try and call the turns for fun...friends and trends and all that
(02:05 PM) jimbo_320: out be
(02:06 PM) BrainStorm: make your broker happy jimbo
(02:06 PM) jimbo_320: she loves me, she loves me not, she loves ,me
(02:07 PM) Jesse888: long 61.5
(02:07 PM) BrainStorm: should pull my buy down to 62 not sure I like that though
(02:07 PM) BrainStorm: good call jesse
(02:07 PM) dbphoenix: On the 5 and 10, we're still in an uptrend, BS.
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(02:08 PM) jimbo_320: trin step down
(02:08 PM) ppusa: 30 tick chart is still in positive shape. Just had a nice pb
(02:08 PM) BrainStorm: filled at 62
(02:08 PM) ppusa: stalling but...
(02:09 PM) BrainStorm: 73 here we come
(02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: looks like bear flag on 75T
(02:10 PM) Buffy_04364: needs to make higher low
(02:11 PM) jimbo_320: 3 break 3 min tl
(02:13 PM) ppusa: needs to convince everyone going down
(02:13 PM) jimbo_320: days range in?
(02:15 PM) ppusa: dow, S&P have broken
(02:15 PM) ppusa: nq on uptrending ma
(02:15 PM) Daniel X: Train a comin
(02:15 PM) jimbo_320: dow HOD +5, yeehaa
(02:15 PM) ppusa: ok now i am convinced so go higher
(02:16 PM) dbphoenix: NQ below last swing highs on 5 and 10.
(02:16 PM) ppusa: better entry now nq because beneath ma
(02:16 PM) BrainStorm: down down
(02:16 PM) ppusa: see, now you convinced
(02:16 PM) ppusa: so can go up
(02:16 PM) Daniel X: time to load up
(02:16 PM) ppusa: Deer here
(02:16 PM) ppusa: but funny how market works
(02:17 PM) BrainStorm: cost me to be convinced ppusa
(02:17 PM) Jesse888: got in too soon
(02:17 PM) Daniel X:  deer crossing train tracks with hoof stuck
(02:17 PM) rad29: are u long?
(02:17 PM) BrainStorm: nice 1-2-3 top on the 5
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(02:18 PM) rad29: jesse are u still long?
(02:18 PM) Jesse888: its long 
(02:18 PM) BrainStorm: I stopped my long out -3
(02:19 PM) rad29: are u going long again brian?
(02:19 PM) ppusa: had 1-2-3 correction...sorry to hear about your loss Brain
(02:19 PM) BrainStorm: nope looking short now as 1-2-3 on the 5min
(02:19 PM) ppusa: no idea where gonext
(02:19 PM) jimbo_320: posted interesting tick chart
(02:20 PM) ppusa: the fact that markets couldn't go + is negative
(02:20 PM) Daniel X: very
(02:20 PM) ppusa: or should i say haven't gone yet
(02:20 PM) BrainStorm: not really managing minus either
(02:21 PM) ppusa: Deer here, no stuck hoove
(02:21 PM) BrainStorm: cr*ppy day all round
(02:21 PM) ppusa: sold 60 when i saw sp and dow break, bot 57.5
(02:21 PM) BrainStorm: 2b bottom on the 5
(02:21 PM) ppusa: stop eating cookies and order in
(02:22 PM) BrainStorm: not trading it however
(02:23 PM) ppusa: biggest trade for day was only loss...again
(02:23 PM) ppusa: 12 :1 today
(02:23 PM) BrainStorm: same ppusa that last one that has turned now :-(
(02:23 PM) BrainStorm: still rather take my loss than wait and hope it comes back to cover better
(02:24 PM) ppusa: absolutely
(02:24 PM) ppusa: i was slow exiting
(02:25 PM) ppusa: need nice finally to beat broker
(02:25 PM) ppusa: finale
(02:25 PM) jimbo_320: buffy thanks for that comp chart didnt realsie it was so near 1500
(02:25 PM) Buffy_04364: u welc
(02:25 PM) jimbo_320: could be significant
(02:25 PM) BrainStorm: looking rather range bound again
(02:27 PM) ppusa: i don't mind if markets go sideways for months as long as i figure it out in advance
(02:28 PM) BrainStorm: when you do let us know OK?
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(02:28 PM) ppusa: maybe that's what we will see more of because look at today
(02:28 PM) ppusa: all the way up and couldn't go positive
(02:29 PM) jimbo_320: back to pivot again
(02:29 PM) ppusa: think how much of a better trader you would be if you knew what market was going to do everyday
(02:29 PM) BrainStorm: yup
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(02:30 PM) ppusa: i could become the king of scalp
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(02:30 PM) ppusa: retro would no longer exist
(02:30 PM) jimbo_320: rest of the day to practise
(02:30 PM) BrainStorm: time to switch to scalp & fade...that's bound to give everyone a nice run!
(02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: testing low
(02:31 PM) jimbo_320: lots of buyers down here at 38
(02:33 PM) elly_34: anybody besides dave tracking retro today?
(02:33 PM) ppusa: Brain, still short?
(02:33 PM) BrainStorm: flat
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(02:34 PM) Buffy_04364: nice chart jimbo
(02:34 PM) BrainStorm: really not to comfy with the way things are moving
(02:34 PM) jimbo_320: which 1?
(02:35 PM) dbphoenix: Now below last reaction low on 5 and 10.
(02:35 PM) ppusa: tick chart looks oversold here
(02:36 PM) dloomis: hey boots
(02:36 PM) ppusa: still early in day
(02:36 PM) boots1_2: hey loomis
(02:37 PM) dloomis: no talking in here, so keep it down, ok?
(02:37 PM) boots1_2: hehe
(02:37 PM) dloomis: just like mirc, huh
(02:37 PM) BrainStorm: in and out for a point short
(02:37 PM) BrainStorm: broker getting richer by the second
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(02:38 PM) jimbo_320: dow 8800
(02:39 PM) BrainStorm: prefer mirc
(02:40 PM) dloomis: BS try the BTT mirc, some good futures guys in there
(02:41 PM) BrainStorm: BTT ?
(02:41 PM) dloomis: btt-max-traders is the exact name
(02:41 PM) BrainStorm: ahh OK which server ?
(02:41 PM) dloomis: boots, wife needs some xrays on arm - later
(02:41 PM) Jesse888: good stuff
(02:41 PM) boots1_2: cya loomis
(02:42 PM) boots1_2: good luck
(02:42 PM) dloomis: boots, tell bs how to get to btt on mirc, gotta go
(02:42 PM) boots1_2: ok
(02:42 PM) rad29: what is thier website boots?
(02:42 PM) Jesse888: waves goodbye to dave
(02:42 PM) BrainStorm: not othernet ?
(02:43 PM) boots1_2: yes
(02:43 PM) BrainStorm: ahh OK
(02:43 PM) boots1_2: do you see it
(02:44 PM) BrainStorm: yes
(02:47 PM) jimbo_320: sold half +2
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(02:49 PM) Jesse888: resist at59
(02:50 PM) BrainStorm: back towards the pivot
(02:53 PM) Daniel X: out +1.5
(02:53 PM) Daniel X: lousy
(02:53 PM) Jesse888: wtg dan
(02:53 PM) Daniel X: lol
(02:54 PM) Daniel X: Jimbo u stil holding 1/2?
(02:55 PM) jimbo_320: y
(02:55 PM) Buffy_04364: you are breaking up and can not understand you at all
(02:55 PM) Trueguy_Pk: hi room
(02:55 PM) Daniel X: a little deeper
(02:56 PM) Trueguy_Pk: we are the manufacturers importers exporters stockist traders general marchants contractors of the multiproducts
(02:56 PM) Buffy_04364: we are traders
(02:56 PM) jimbo_320: you do quite a lot trueguy :-)
(02:56 PM) ppusa: what country do you represent?
(02:57 PM) ppusa: arf
(02:58 PM) Trueguy_Pk: buffy what is your demanded products
(02:58 PM) Trueguy_Pk: we are from pakistan
(02:58 PM) Trueguy_Pk: Quality Crowd Industries
(02:58 PM) ppusa: wooden stakes
(02:58 PM) Daniel X: if ES holds pivot this time   grab hold of something
(02:58 PM) Daniel X: Jimbo it 38 actual pivot or pivot sup1?
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(02:59 PM) dave_b_quik: trueguy, can you send me some free samples of leather jackets?
(02:59 PM) Daniel X: Dave  lol?
(02:59 PM) jimbo_320: i have 38.7 pivot
(02:59 PM) Jesse888: lol dave
(02:59 PM) Daniel X: thnx
(02:59 PM) Daniel X: Jim
(02:59 PM) dave_b_quik: doesn't hurt to ask, right?
(03:01 PM) Trueguy_Pk: ppuse what kind of stakes
(03:01 PM) Trueguy_Pk: we our sports unit is manufactuerein the snooker and billiard sticks
(03:01 PM) Daniel X: 1151 NQ pivot suppport has to hold
(03:02 PM) jam_27: s it time to short es
(03:02 PM) jam_27: is
(03:02 PM) MarkCA: Daniel you getting pivots from your charts?  or other source?
(03:03 PM) Daniel X: ys my charts Mark
(03:03 PM) BrainStorm: what you use Daniel ?
(03:03 PM) jimbo_320: straight though dan
(03:03 PM) Jesse888: ya jimbo
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(03:03 PM) Daniel X: yes Jimbo ouch
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(03:04 PM) BrainStorm: tried the demo...crashed rather alot
(03:04 PM) BrainStorm: glad it works Ok for you
(03:04 PM) Daniel X: can't beleive Clinton's appeal fighting dis barment caused this guess some people still think he's the Pres.LOL
(03:05 PM) Daniel X: Brain im running it on a Mac
(03:05 PM) Daniel X: could be y
(03:06 PM) BrainStorm: Excelent so there is a decent charting package for the Mac (not that I am a mac user)
(03:07 PM) Daniel X: yes it's the Best 1....comparible to TS
(03:07 PM) BrainStorm: and java order entry ? good job
(03:07 PM) BrainStorm: I liked the look of it ... as I say the windows implementation seemed a tiny bit flakey
(03:07 PM) Daniel X: how long ago?
(03:08 PM) BrainStorm: hmm 6 months I guess cant really rember
(03:08 PM) Daniel X: oh ok
(03:08 PM) Trueguy_Pk: ok
(03:08 PM) BrainStorm: pretty happy with Ensign though
(03:08 PM) Daniel X: i'm just not a Windozz fan!lol
(03:08 PM) Trueguy_Pk: room i am going because here is no exporter and importers
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(03:09 PM) BrainStorm: nope True....E-mini futures traders
(03:10 PM) Daniel X: Yes ensign rounding up alot of the Qcharts defecters
(03:10 PM) shimster_1: Trueguy  Ask George Costanza from Seinfeld about imports and exports
(03:10 PM) Daniel X: i hat sell every bounce buy the dip trading ugh
(03:10 PM) BrainStorm: I liked Ravenquote real quick to do everyday stuff but a few shortcomings
(03:11 PM) Daniel X: The owner still lurks these rooms
(03:12 PM) Daniel X: ok how many of us went market at that dump?
(03:13 PM) jimbo_320: bloody chop