Welcome Msg: Welcome index futures traders and TrendVUE.com alumni. Today's charts at www.DaCharts.com WARNING: Any trades posted here are for educational purposes only. Don't take the trades unless you understand them and can take the risk. Buffy_04364: morning elly Buffy_04364: learn alot last week in t''s room? Buffy_04364: you said you enjoyed Mikes Buffy_04364: too bad he is not going to be doing it much longer klonerdoug: was there news at 730 to push futs recovery? Buffy_04364: not that I know of - the rally isn't looking too good now though elly_34: sorry buffy was gone a sec Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! elly_34: i was in t's room just one day and part of one and in mike's two and i enjoyed both klonerdoug: no ur right though tough to trade here ... saw that support at 31 and almost bot it ... who's mike? elly_34: but i didn't really learn from mike as he was trading mostly commodoties which i couldn't see Buffy_04364: Oh, was flipping through Trader Vic's Methods of wall street masters - and I should change my name to "tidewater" as that is my basic trading style klonerdoug: u recommend the book buffy? Buffy_04364: Mike Bruns and Teresa Lo - the ones who made me the trader I am Buffy_04364: sure do Buffy_04364: great book Buffy_04364: not that expensive either Buffy_04364: in the 20's I think klonerdoug: free room or pay ... mikes that is Buffy_04364: this week is his last pay room elly_34: then after that what do u know buffy? dave_b_quick: mike said he would do workshops from time to time after that elly_34: i got the impression he was going to still come on and trade with a small group but not pay, however i could be wrong Buffy_04364: Great dave that is good news Buffy_04364: hopefully he had enough fun in here his vacation week that he will hang out in here Buffy_04364: morning Dave dave_b_quick: hi all elly_34: hi dave dave_b_quick: i told mike i hope he will spend more time here with us now that he won't be teaching so much Buffy_04364: thanks Dave Buffy_04364: he is a great trader Buffy_04364: did you get to look at the last two links I sent you last night to put up Buffy_04364: get info there especially if all the links are followed dave_b_quick: ya, i posted them already, nice articles Buffy_04364: I emailed Teresa about getting the ispec link changed to trendvue Buffy_04364: lots and lots of good stuff on the second one Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! Buffy_04364: www.hardrightedge.com dave_b_quick: she has it hooked up so all her domain names go to trendvue anyway Buffy_04364: you could read it all day Buffy_04364: oh great Buffy_04364: glad to hear that but anyone knowing the history of ispec isn't going to even try it I don't think Buffy_04364: Call me stupid - I didn't LOL thoff: gm everyone rich012: hi buffy, looked at some charts and ready to roll this morning Buffy_04364: thought it wouldn't work Buffy_04364: great rich! Buffy_04364: glad you got a chance to do that rich012: got my EW all set with the settings Buffy_04364: great klonerdoug: given the p/e situation my guess is these levels are not a surprise to anyone here Buffy_04364: I don't think anything would surprise me now klonerdoug Daniel X: 15 times p/e is now supposed to be reasonable klonerdoug: but even so i think oversold comes into the equation today or tm Buffy_04364: true but does the market think so :-) Buffy_04364: PA will tell us klonerdoug: but japan and europe weak klonerdoug: PA? Buffy_04364: trying to test high of rally now Buffy_04364: price action Buffy_04364: yes and them being this weak is the new factor in the equation Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! Buffy_04364: is anyone willing to offer their cents on how they handle money management on Thursday? Buffy_04364: would appreciate some comments from someone who scales out of a position as I don't do it Daniel X: sure i'll offer my 2 cents Buffy_04364: thanks Daniel Daniel X: i'll give u something to think about now though Buffy_04364: I figure we will just do the highlights of money management and show how important and have links for people to read that go into it in more detail Buffy_04364: ok Buffy_04364: go ahead Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. Daniel X: how many retro entries give u points right off the bat? Buffy_04364: hi GSD and Orprepus and tuzak and all others! Buffy_04364: list is getting too long to see you all come in Buffy_04364: don't do retro but usually a lose I believe Buffy_04364: lose=loss Daniel X: a loss? Buffy_04364: yes Daniel X: no Buffy_04364: using retro rules it is Daniel X: most entries initially give 3+ points Buffy_04364: your adjustment using the 9/3 has been working right? Buffy_04364: and then he gives them back right? Daniel X: no talking 15 min here Buffy_04364: Oh ok Buffy_04364: go ahead Buffy_04364: sorry Daniel X: right Daniel X: buy/sell 2 contracts as sonn as you see points cut 1 Daniel X: that way if it;s a looser ur ahead dave_b_quick: most of the time the 15m breakout has a pullback after before it goes anywhere, right, daniel? Daniel X: true Buffy_04364: I like that daniel Daniel X: but it does move 3+ points almost every tiome Buffy_04364: testing premarket high now Daniel X: 1rst Buffy_04364: yes it does daniel dave_b_quick: only problem with doubling up at the start is you double the risk at the riskiest time of the trade Daniel X: pocket the $ hold the other with the 5 point stop Buffy_04364: I also feel that is the riskiest time of a trade too Dave Daniel X: yes but going by Statistics Retro gets scalp points everytrade practically dave_b_quick: ya Buffy_04364: taking entry off 15 he should Daniel X: ;-) Buffy_04364: will have to watch that Daniel Buffy_04364: although it sounds like you have done a good job on that Buffy_04364: :-) Daniel X: yes but last week i missed the biggest day! elly_34: daniel, are u using 9/3 now mostly? Buffy_04364: for those of you who stopped by this weekend and I didn't respond, it was because I had the window buried while working on other things, so if you can use the mike to get my attention dave_b_quick: there are a lot of ways to use trading skills to improve on retro's bottom line. Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! Buffy_04364: many have adapted retro to their style Daniel X: Elly 9 yes dave_b_quick: a good trader should be able to beat the best mechanical system elly_34: not trading futures yes but soon Buffy_04364: great elly Daniel X: gosh i hope Dave! Buffy_04364: I have read that also Dave dave_b_quick: just look at Buffy Buffy_04364: :-) Buffy_04364: only on days I am really with it dave Daniel X: yah but Buffy stopped calling out loud Buffy_04364: due to people taking the trades that didn't know what they were doing and losing money yes dave_b_quick: daniel, you beat retro some days, didn't you? Buffy_04364: I still call the set ups Daniel X: figured that Buffy_04364: IB Buffy_04364: poke bar Daniel X: so have i Buffy_04364: charts with trendlines Daniel X: Dave yes Buffy_04364: figure if traders can't see the entry they don't understand it and need to paper trade more Daniel X: very few though Buffy_04364: I am working on posting my basic system to the website if enough would benefit from it - thoughts? Daniel X: from when i started using Retro...im behind 163 points Daniel X: missed trades dave_b_quick: i'm looking forward to that buffy! elly_34: my thoughts are yes buffy, please do Daniel X: you bet Buffy Buffy_04364: missed trades are better than lost money ! Daniel X: anytime elly_34: i feel to transist into nq and es from stocks is a big one so all the education i can get is good Buffy_04364: I know many aren't as short term as I am but it does work on any chart you can get a tl on Buffy_04364: Couldn't get a TL on the 5M last Friday Daniel X: Elly how did u do on stocks? Buffy_04364: for quite a while elly_34: i do fine on stocks and options but my account is too small now for the new rules so it's either options only or futures Daniel X: gotcha Daniel X: and they're pff!! Daniel X: off! elly_34: and i already have IB Daniel X: ib? elly_34: interactive brokers Daniel X: oh ok Buffy_04364: Jut heart from T that the free book is almost ready to go out Daniel X: thought you meant intensive brusing Buffy_04364: If you want it make sure to sign up for email on her site Daniel X: lol elly_34: lol Buffy_04364: no cost elly_34: i'm excited about the book Buffy_04364: as we all should be :-) Buffy_04364: that site is www.trendvue.com Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! Buffy_04364: hi ronnie couldn't understand you Buffy_04364: do we switch contracts weds or thursday? rich012: th 4nq: mornin all rich012: nq had better opening than es, but now weaker Buffy_04364: morning rich012: now nq better Buffy_04364: ye sit is Buffy_04364: still watching here Buffy_04364: brb jimbo_320: good morning all rich012: poke bar on nq? Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! rich012: shorted ES Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! Buffy_04364: yes rich but test of low is too close Buffy_04364: from friday rich012: out at +.50, close call Buffy_04364: still watching rich012: yes, I switched over to 50t and bailed quickly Buffy_04364: good for you! Buffy_04364: rich and I spent some time going over the 3M chart last sat Buffy_04364: looks like he "got it" :-) Buffy_04364: in fact it is the many discussions on my system on the evenings and weekends that brought about thinking about posting it. rich012: I wouldn't go that far buffy! LOL Let's see what the week does for me. :-) Daniel X: +4.5 Buffy_04364: good Daniel tomsurf: buffy, I think that would be educational for all Daniel X: 1361 pivot Buffy_04364: tks daniel Daniel X: thats y i cut Buffy_04364: time line on pyra Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! Buffy_04364: lets see what it does when it tags the 200ema (h=l/2) on the 3M Daniel X: Downtrend line Daniel X: 15 min Buffy_04364: all my EMA are on the (high+low)/2 Daniel X: rsi 5 min near buy zone Buffy_04364: what TF daniel Buffy_04364: pyra rsi 3 on 4M getting into sell zone Daniel X: 5 min Buffy_04364: and TOS coming Daniel X: and there it is shao: hi dwn1? shao: hi daniel! ppusa: Dan did you take that retro short? Daniel X: no long 9/3 ppusa: kewl ppusa: market is acting like early morning short was sketchey shao: why no one speak to me? Gorillatrader: Retro doing well Daniel X: shao we are working ppusa: everyday last week this second push higher was the place to go short. So here or an outside up day? ppusa: flag? rich012: es only got to 3m 50ema so far Buffy_04364: hi shao Buffy_04364: we usually just type during the day Buffy_04364: mic is used after market closes Buffy_04364: could be ppusa ppusa: my gut says outside up so deer here Buffy_04364: pyra says might go - but needs to get past TOS ppusa: buy sigs around yester high ppusa: same thing Buffy_04364: made a lower high on small TF so........... Buffy_04364: just remembered something I have to do Buffy_04364: brb ppusa: see what kinda pb shapes up Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! jimbo_320: 1090 is 60min TL top on es ppusa: amyone buy the premarket low? Daniel X: Buffy chart i posted is in line with what 's going on...the 15 min Buffy_04364: nice chart Daniel Buffy_04364: tks to beanman too for pyra chart Buffy_04364: don't do premarket ppusa Daniel X: kinda simple no? Buffy_04364: yes daniel Buffy_04364: gee rich - hard to get a TL on this so far Daniel X: i dont like the 5 min EMAs Buffy ppusa: i happened to glance at a monitor a couple minutes after it was put in. Just missed it or i probably would have bot it. rich012: buffy, sure is rich012: ma's going flat Daniel X: that's right Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! Daniel X: 3 pm Consumer Credit Buffy_04364: worked until the volitility returned Daniel - now have to go to lower TF Buffy_04364: tks daniel Gorillatrader: get the feeling everybody is ignoring Retro..not worth trading it? Buffy_04364: friday is the big day for reports Buffy_04364: no we are not ignoring him Buffy_04364: been talking about him earlier ppusa: chop day retro doesn't work well Gorillatrader: none of comments in last 45 min have related to any Retro rules, trades Daniel X: i've been using 5/9/15 Buffy_04364: discussed buying 2 contracts for first trade and getting ot one when up and use 5pt sl for other Daniel X: scalping still Buffy_04364: he has an inside bar on last 15M dave_b_quick: GT, i posted the only retro trade so far Buffy_04364: so buy sell is off of that Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. Daniel X: yes Gorillatrader: right, Dave Buffy_04364: daniels chart shows the retro buy also Gorillatrader: hehe, got folks roused up? rich012: nq has an uptrend line now Buffy_04364: LOL nope just filling you in in case you missed it all Gorillatrader: I miss a lot rambler_12: dont bad mouth retro-lol Buffy_04364: don't know when you came in Buffy_04364: LOL Buffy_04364: good one rambler Daniel X: my chart shows a buy...where? lol jimbo_320: 60 is nq tl top on 10min rich012: nq triangle dave_b_quick: ya, retro still has some friends as long as he's making money tomsurf: lol Buffy_04364: yes rich and ma flat dave_b_quick: "nobody loves you when you're down and out" Gorillatrader: I show retro Long 1357.50, trading 2c and taking profit 10.5 pts, got 10 for Retro rich012: es looking good Daniel X: GT yes thats right rich012: if nq breaks out above this triange, es should fly Daniel X: not that u need any help though dave_b_quick: nice job, GT Gorillatrader: thx Gorillatrader: even on choppy days, look at the Retro daily bottom line that Dave posted Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! Buffy_04364: poke bar osted jimbo_320: posted es30 chart ppusa: wasn't retro's 1st trade a short that got stopped out? jimbo_320: 1083 is yesterdays close rich012: buffy, I haven't shorted. U? Gorillatrader: nope LOng Buffy_04364: yes rich012: flat....watching to see if es takes out poke...probably a good buy on ES ppusa: gt i think your wrong. That bar had a lower low Gorillatrader: look at my 10:19 post Gorillatrader: 1st trade after the 1st 15min bar at 09:45 ppusa: that bar haad a lower low ppusa: than previous Buffy_04364: out not doing what it should Buffy_04364: might retest bottom of tl posted Gorillatrader: and? ppusa: would have put retro short ppusa: outside up bar Buffy_04364: and then go back down or go back up into the triangle Gorillatrader: so, Retro rules say that if the 1st 15min bar is lower than a pre-market bar, you go Short? Buffy_04364: remember GT I do not trade retro ppusa: no what do you show for the range of the first and second bar? Buffy_04364: everyone knows this Buffy_04364: if you are talking to me Gorillatrader: trading now, can discuss later or Dave can comment Gorillatrader: or Buffy dave_b_quick: i see what you mean ppusa dave_b_quick: i was watching that as a 2B bottom on the 1m so missed it dave_b_quick: so i guess i faded retro's first short, gonna ruin my reputation Buffy_04364: retro does not take premarket into consideration ppusa: 1341.5 to 1357 and 1340.5 to 1370 Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! ppusa: you mean you missed the short and subsequent stop Dave? dave_b_quick: ya ppusa: traders take notice Daniel X: chop chop Buffy_04364: TL show that also ppusa Buffy_04364: flat here ppusa: Dave this situation happened once before. There is no rule for an outside bar Gorillatrader: guess I don't understand the Retro Rules ppusa: caused a major debate dave_b_quick: hard to have a rule for everything ppusa: GT retro goes with the second bar right? Buffy_04364: right ppusa dave_b_quick: there was a brief 1 tic breakout of the first 15m bar to the downside before the one to the upside Buffy_04364: GSD your bar on the 3M Buffy_04364: or should say candle :-) Gorillatrader: I would only consider the 1st RTH bar which is from 09:30 to 0945, 1st min. Then, take the Long when it breaks out over the 1357 High of the 15min bar at 0945. For Retro ppusa: The second bar had a lower low...what don't you understand. Or are our quotes different? Gorillatrader: 2nd bar starts at 0945 to 1000 ppusa: what is the low ppusa: of this bar Daniel X: 1341.50 Buffy_04364: GT is saying the first bar signaled a long ppusa Daniel X: 1340. ppusa: what was the low of the previous bar? ppusa: hang on Dan Buffy_04364: by taking out the high Gorillatrader: ok, but the TREND is UP, lok at a moving average jimbo_320: so much for monday capitulation, is there any news out today? Gorillatrader: why take a Short when trend is up ppusa: GT what was the low of the previous bar Buffy_04364: was the short triggered first Daniel X: consumer credit @ 3 Gorillatrader: Buffy, yes if you go strictly by bar hi/lo on 15min ppusa: GT you faded retro too Gorillatrader: Guess so, without knowing..you right ppusa, me wrong dave_b_quick: as long as yr bottom line is OK, GT ppusa: You and Dave...No discipline! Gorillatrader: but 2 wrongs make a right? I got 10 pts...lol Buffy_04364: I am sure it is :-) ppusa: Good trade Gorillatrader: hehe Daniel X: I went long also LOL Buffy_04364: brb Daniel X: because imo trade 1 for retro is statistically a loser dave_b_quick: GT, chalk that one up to intuitive trading, not to negligence jimbo_320: trin 0.6 ppusa: Last week and today i have noticed the market has made 3 turns the third being the good one. Gorillatrader: I was looking at the overall trend that was UP, so ... Daniel X: on on the 4th ppusa: pushed up early came down and then up to the HOD Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! ppusa: anyway i am glad no one took that short. Daniel X: going for coffe Daniel X: brb dave_b_quick: ya, ppusa, it's like rocking a boat, takes a few rocks to really get it going ppusa: yes Dave ppusa: anyway so far nq seems to be holding lending towards an outside up day Paltalk: Click banners to visit our sponsors. ppusa: i am getting lousy fills this morning ppusa: question....does anyone know if the CME is trading against us on market orders? ppusa: do they keep the spread? Gorillatrader: nope dave_b_quick: only in the big contracts, right? ppusa: no they don't or you don't know? Gorillatrader: CME is not involved at all ppusa: thanks Gorillatrader: locals, market too large dave_b_quick: in the big contracts it's the locals who work the bid/ask spread Gorillatrader: its NOT a FAIR game, anyway one looks at it. Odds are stacked against us Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! tomsurf: boy Paltalk sure seems to have increased the ads..... rambler_12: retro evens the odds rambler_12: : ) Gorillatrader: agree, rambler... ppusa: so does this little chat room ppusa: soon we will take over the pit Gorillatrader: a Multi-TimeFrame, trend following approach better tool. Gorillatrader: Retro is only one way to trade this mehtodology rambler_12: retrodology Gorillatrader: where you have Retro LOng entry on this move? Daniel X: 64.50 rambler_12: 64.50? rambler_12: y Gorillatrader: on 9min, Long at 1354 Gorillatrader: 3m/9m Hollie_: Bonjour JLC_7: faucon, pm moi... faucon1960_1: allo Daniel X: ons travail ici faucon1960_1: ok Daniel X: presque tout ce sont des americans Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! Buffy_04364: see I didn't miss much Orprepus: so buffy was does your last trianglechart indicate - consolidation? Buffy_04364: a wedge for one just posted Buffy_04364: it has no direction yet Buffy_04364: sitting on hands Daniel X: ditto Orprepus: thxs Buffy_04364: you guys all know how I hate triangles in triangle etc Daniel X: lol me too jimbo_320: up wedge on es1 aslo Buffy_04364: tks jimbo jimbo_320: maybe a break of tl coming up soon Daniel X: rsi 5 min going into ovebought Buffy_04364: even if this one breaks there is another right beneath it Buffy_04364: just going to watch it and do stuff around the house checking chart occasionally Buffy_04364: not as hot today yet.... dave_b_quick: good discipline, buffy Buffy_04364: tks dave Buffy_04364: I know my system does not handle messy TL :-( ppusa: looks like charts are breaking down ppusa: on support though here Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! jimbo_320: big bounce day, dow up 13, comp u 2 and vix up 2 :-) dave_b_quick: since we're sitting on a 3 year low it might take a while to exhaust bulls & bears before it decides which way to go Daniel X: everything is as Mondays should be/usually are Paltalk: Love PalTalk but hate the banners and popups? Go bannerless! Only $9.95 per year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Cytrader: Hello all. jimbo_320: dow sp broke up trend dave_b_quick: hi cy Tom_B: GM dave_b_quick: hey Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! ppusa: jimbo are they headed down? Daniel X: PPUSA u still holding off the lod? ppusa: i haven't been watching them ppusa: kinda in a mess here jimbo_320: just bounced so still within trend, testing hod maybe 2b? Buffy_04364: posted 1M tl chart jimbo_320: 1095 is resistance dave_b_quick: so we're totally triangulated Buffy_04364: just updated 3m too Buffy_04364: last time I remember a mess like this was way back in Mike's class ppusa: dow dropped 10 points Buffy_04364: Might be HS on 75T too Cytrader: Question: Is this a room for a particular school of trading? Daniel X: yes th $ school Gorillatrader: School for Profits jimbo_320: so retro must be doing well looking at chart? Gorillatrader: no Buffy_04364: posted that also Daniel X: Retro wearing a neck brace Buffy_04364: LOL Gorillatrader: jimbo, using 9min and looks like its working well with 3min Buffy_04364: posted his tl too jimbo_320: ah, just looked at opening trades Buffy_04364: have an off the wall question - how many have many names for paltalk? Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! MarkCA: i have 3, one is ad free Buffy_04364: tks dave_b_quick: i have 2, but only 1 letter difference Buffy_04364: yes yours is easy to recognize Buffy_04364: it is the same person Gorillatrader: 2, but just added the # 1 for 2nd puter dave_b_quick: ya, me 2 Buffy_04364: just wondering if all these new names are new visitors or if same people with different names Daniel X: well see all those names in here that never say a thing..... Daniel X: ;-) Buffy_04364: hopefully some day they will :-) Indycator: split personalities jimbo_320: we need a bounce to find more sellers, still oversold Daniel X: i have 15 comps Gorillatrader: psychotic traders Daniel X: lol Buffy_04364: to all the new names - charts are at www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com Buffy_04364: and you are welcome to ask questions and/or make comments Buffy_04364: :-) Buffy_04364: all up and running Daniel? dave_b_quick: got a PM from a 17 yo dutch girl, greta. After chatting for a week, turned out to be a 45yo male friend. Buffy_04364: I think I am going to be looking for cheapy to do email and paltalk Gorillatrader: did yoy like "him"? Daniel X: DaveLOL!!!!! Buffy_04364: lol dave Orprepus: hehe Buffy_04364: took out TOS dave_b_quick: LOL i thot something was fishy Buffy_04364: in pyra Orprepus: you go dave Buffy_04364: now can it stay there Buffy_04364: also tested the neckline Buffy_04364: now testing last swing high Orprepus: video would of help maybe Buffy_04364: in version 4 of paltalk still losing the script in the room once in a while? dave_b_quick: i didn't upgrade (11:41 AM) Buffy_04364: me either too many problems people were complaining about (11:41 AM) Orprepus: dropped ver 4 - beta in paltalk is alpha in my book (11:41 AM) ppusa: Dan I never bot the LOD (11:41 AM) Daniel X: t not? (11:41 AM) Daniel X: y (11:41 AM) Gorillatrader: I keep getting an ad to go to "iFriends" room....tempted my sexy female (11:42 AM) ppusa: I use 4 and haven't had problems (11:42 AM) jimbo_320: 1102 now on es? (11:42 AM) Daniel X: 4 ? (11:42 AM) Daniel X: comps? (11:42 AM) ppusa: buy sig on PnF (11:43 AM) Daniel X: kinda late no? (11:43 AM) elly_34: daniel when u use retro 9/3 do u have take profit at certain number of points if it gets there? (11:43 AM) Daniel X: yes +3/5 (11:43 AM) Daniel X: if the 15 min looks hesitant (11:43 AM) elly_34: and crash stop is? (11:43 AM) Daniel X: 5 (11:44 AM) Daniel X: but this morn i held a rated "x" trade (11:44 AM) jimbo_320: comp +0.03 and nq up 23 ? (11:45 AM) Buffy_04364: gee finally broke out of that mess (11:45 AM) Buffy_04364: :-) Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (11:46 AM) rich012: es tagged the top TL of the up wedge and fell back here (11:47 AM) Daniel X: 1385 pivot res1 Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (11:48 AM) Daniel X: RSI above 70 (11:48 AM) Daniel X: over bought (11:50 AM) ppusa: regardless of charts, market is acting like it wants to go higher (11:51 AM) Daniel X: PPUSA daily says we are near bottom on stochastics (11:51 AM) ppusa: i've got 5 up hours and would like to short it but (11:52 AM) ppusa: and PnF says due for bounce (11:52 AM) jimbo_320: high volume bar on nq at 1380 (11:52 AM) Daniel X: and volume hasn't been this high since july 9th (11:52 AM) ppusa: and indexes are higher now than they have been all morning (11:53 AM) Daniel X: 13th and 31rst had good volume (11:53 AM) ppusa: but markets do have lower highs and lows today (11:53 AM) Buffy_04364: lower high on 1m (11:54 AM) Buffy_04364: can't get tl on 3m yet (11:54 AM) Daniel X: adx looing good (11:54 AM) jimbo_320: i read an article where they said that the monthly stochactics were deeply oversold on monthly, weekly and daily. Last time that happened was 1987 and the time before that 1930 something crash (11:54 AM) Daniel X: looking (11:54 AM) Daniel X: thnx Jimbo (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: pnf indicate retracement down ppusa? (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: hope it doesn't go back into triangle (11:55 AM) Buffy_04364: :-( (11:55 AM) ppusa: Prior to this hour nq looked like it would be up this hour....i told myself about 40 minutes ago to wait for this hour to start and buy and i didn't do it. Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (11:56 AM) Daniel X: GT has to be long still (11:56 AM) ppusa: can't tell buffy (11:56 AM) ppusa: ten point looks like retracement due (11:56 AM) Buffy_04364: testing BOS in pyra (11:56 AM) ppusa: which just happened (11:57 AM) Daniel X: to 65 (11:57 AM) Buffy_04364: yep (11:57 AM) ppusa: and 15 too (11:57 AM) Buffy_04364: guess I can do more stuff around the house LOL (11:57 AM) ppusa: but 15 has double top so (12:04 PM) Buffy_04364: inside bar on 15M (12:05 PM) Daniel X: US growth cut but recovery from year long slowdown likelt yo come end of year Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (12:06 PM) jimbo_320: horrible day for charting (12:06 PM) Buffy_04364: sure is jimbo (12:06 PM) Daniel X: horrible 6 days!! (12:08 PM) jimbo_320: drifting ... (12:08 PM) Daniel X: up river! (12:08 PM) jimbo_320: :-), anyone think 80 hod? (12:09 PM) Orprepus: i do (12:09 PM) Daniel X: 3/4 days of bottoming action...so i dunno about 80 being hod (12:10 PM) Daniel X: although we have our 40 point range alreadt (12:10 PM) dave_b_quick: could be bottoming action or bear flag, time will tell (12:10 PM) Daniel X: bear surrender flag maybe! (12:11 PM) tomsurf: 15min ema is flat to up and we are trading at the 45min ema here (12:11 PM) Buffy_04364: update 3m (12:11 PM) jimbo_320: HOD is in, i'll go with O :-) dont tell me you sold it? (12:11 PM) Daniel X: thnx (12:12 PM) Daniel X: think we'll test the pivit res 1 @ 85 (12:13 PM) Daniel X: we're in gring up mode (12:13 PM) Daniel X: grind (12:13 PM) Buffy_04364: wating here (12:13 PM) Buffy_04364: poke bar something LOL (12:13 PM) Daniel X: hooves getting tired of standing in one place (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: got the poke bar and long (12:14 PM) Daniel X: 85 i say here comes 85 (12:14 PM) Buffy_04364: posted (12:14 PM) Daniel X: maybe (12:15 PM) Tom_B: 5m 200 ma holding (12:15 PM) Daniel X: which chart Buffy? Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (12:16 PM) Buffy_04364: 3m12 (12:16 PM) Daniel X: ok (12:17 PM) Buffy_04364: can not go back under tl or out (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: another inside bar on 15m (12:18 PM) Buffy_04364: I see Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! (12:20 PM) ppusa: Friday's low 1338.50. Today's intraday low 1340.50. Lots of tiimes this means higher high...But maybe that wiil be the place to go short for the rest of the week. (12:21 PM) Daniel X: anyone care to make a call on the LOW (12:21 PM) Daniel X: low of week (12:21 PM) Daniel X: is what im thinking 1340.50 (12:21 PM) Buffy_04364: be much happier here if it takes out the high of bar in on (12:21 PM) jimbo_320: http://pages.zoom.co.uk/jcs-solutions/markets/index.htm is my website, anyone fancy taking a look (12:22 PM) Buffy_04364: that is better (12:22 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (12:22 PM) ppusa: 125 point PnF due for upside reversal (12:22 PM) Daniel X: positive and a negative in there??? (12:22 PM) Daniel X: upside reversal? (12:23 PM) ppusa: yes (12:23 PM) Buffy_04364: watch my stop be too tight (12:23 PM) Daniel X: no comprende (12:23 PM) Buffy_04364: :-( (12:23 PM) Buffy_04364: you talking to me daniel? (12:23 PM) Daniel X: no PP (12:23 PM) ppusa: so what either do I (12:24 PM) ppusa: okay maybe what we need is a rounded bottom (12:24 PM) Daniel X: upside reversal...pullback (12:24 PM) Daniel X: ? (12:24 PM) Buffy_04364: looks it (12:24 PM) Daniel X: so trade standing up PPUSA (12:24 PM) ppusa: re really are due for a 125 point reversal (12:24 PM) Buffy_04364: this market is nuts (12:24 PM) Buffy_04364: looking for higher high here (12:25 PM) Daniel X: sitting down all the time will flaten ur bottom (12:25 PM) Buffy_04364: michal dell does most of his work standing up (12:25 PM) ppusa: so assuming the reversal occurs near here, but the low of the week is not in then all week long chop chop (12:25 PM) jimbo_320: triangle es1 looking to bust out Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (12:25 PM) Daniel X: i'd say the low of week looks in (12:26 PM) ppusa: cold bre (12:26 PM) ppusa: be (12:26 PM) ppusa: don't want to get too bearish (12:26 PM) ppusa: but given the action, more likely today is setting tone for week, chop chop (12:27 PM) Daniel X: since last week PP (12:27 PM) ppusa: ? (12:27 PM) Daniel X: characteristic of a Market extreme chop chop (12:28 PM) Buffy_04364: hope not too many days like this (12:28 PM) dave_b_quick: fortunately nothing lasts forever (12:28 PM) ppusa: 5 and 15 minute are in nice channels (12:28 PM) Daniel X: well ..hate to say i told u so ..but... (12:28 PM) Buffy_04364: out (12:29 PM) Buffy_04364: be (12:29 PM) jimbo_320: tick has been chopping all day (12:29 PM) Buffy_04364: nope -.5 (12:29 PM) Daniel X: seems now the trick is to go to even larger tfs (12:30 PM) ppusa: Friday's bounce was to 1383 after the HOD so eighty could hold today (12:30 PM) Buffy_04364: Howard is on so his room should be open (12:30 PM) Buffy_04364: he lost his internet connection last firday (12:33 PM) ppusa: i don't know that this market has enough strength for an outside up day. (12:34 PM) ppusa: just started another hour (12:35 PM) ppusa: this last drop could have been a setup for a new hOD or sell off and i think i'll get an answer very soon (12:35 PM) Daniel X: care to wager? Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (12:35 PM) Daniel X: kidding (12:36 PM) ppusa: clueless (12:36 PM) Buffy_04364: pyra says drop but still haven't finished the book LOL (12:36 PM) Daniel X: RSI in overbought (12:36 PM) ppusa: great buffy (12:36 PM) ppusa: Speed reader? (12:37 PM) ppusa: i need to know now (12:37 PM) Buffy_04364: it isn't something to be scanned trust me (12:37 PM) Daniel X: Buffy so it says drop but because ur not finished we don't know how far !!!..great.... (12:37 PM) ppusa: 5 minute channel is breaking (12:38 PM) ppusa: no damage yet (12:38 PM) Buffy_04364: 1363.50 (12:38 PM) Daniel X: thnx (12:38 PM) Daniel X: 40ema 5 min is 65 (12:38 PM) ppusa: i think HOD will go and that will be a sell for another low and rounded bottom (12:38 PM) Daniel X: 61 pivot (12:39 PM) Daniel X: ditto (12:39 PM) Buffy_04364: close enough bt not like we used to be (12:40 PM) Daniel X: once the EMAs cross the pivot @ 61 i'll be a little more inclined to go long (12:40 PM) HotStocks: are you guys buying now? (12:40 PM) Daniel X: Buffy i'ts because of the volitility (12:40 PM) dave_b_quick: maybe we can run some stops under the low of the last 3 yrs? (12:40 PM) Buffy_04364: tks daniel (12:40 PM) Daniel X: Diabolical Dave (12:41 PM) ppusa: i probably won't buy unless nq breaks 80 and then only for a scalp (12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: yes very diabolical (12:41 PM) dave_b_quick: maybe it's wishful thinking, but i'm short at 73.5 and 69 (12:41 PM) Buffy_04364: 1361.50for target with pyra now (12:42 PM) Daniel X: ahh there we go i had 1361.83 all day (12:42 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (12:42 PM) ppusa: Dave i see the 69 (12:42 PM) Daniel X: i think pyra has trouble in chop (12:43 PM) Daniel X: hence the reason for in frequent tl (12:43 PM) Buffy_04364: supposedly not if you learn to take the trades using the diagonals (12:43 PM) dave_b_quick: the 73.5 sell was a tiny 2B on the 5m (12:43 PM) Daniel X: really Buffy (12:43 PM) Daniel X: ok (12:43 PM) ppusa: i see it Dave (12:44 PM) Buffy_04364: yes look at beanmans charts and his notes when ou have a chance (12:44 PM) ppusa: here is the 15 point PnF reversal (12:44 PM) Daniel X: ok i will (12:45 PM) Buffy_04364: I have learned much from his charts Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (12:46 PM) ppusa: sitting on the 200 ma 5 minute (12:46 PM) jimbo_320: does retro ever enter a trade on anything other than the 15 min chart, apart from adds? (12:46 PM) dave_b_quick: no, but I do (12:46 PM) Daniel X: not supposed to (12:46 PM) Daniel X: but (12:47 PM) jimbo_320: sitting precariously on bottom of uptrend (12:47 PM) Buffy_04364: nice chart dbq (12:48 PM) Buffy_04364: great channels jimbo Paltalk: You DO have a choice! Buy bannerless to end your popup blues today! Click OPTIONS on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. Only $9.95 a year! That's less than THREE CENTS per day! WOW!!! (12:49 PM) Daniel X: Dave that was a very high risk entry IMO (12:49 PM) dave_b_quick: why? (12:49 PM) Daniel X: gonna break out the T-Lo discipline strap!! (12:50 PM) Daniel X: ur entry should of been lower no? (12:51 PM) dave_b_quick: it was the 2nd time it tried to test the 15m poke outside the triangle, and the 2nd failure, so i figured it had to go down if it hit my stop (12:52 PM) dave_b_quick: entry was 1 tic under the 5m upbar after the inside bar (12:52 PM) Daniel X: i see that... but i guess we're trying to improve on retro entries then..or it Retro irrelevant? (12:52 PM) dave_b_quick: the old "upbar after the inside bar" rule LOL (12:52 PM) dave_b_quick: i hope nobody asks me what that rule is (12:53 PM) Daniel X: lol (12:53 PM) Tom_B: shd retro be shrt frm 67 ? (12:53 PM) elly_34: are the results for retro from friday in line with the rules u have posted as of now dave? (12:53 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (12:53 PM) Gorillatrader: What was that Rule, Dave? (12:53 PM) dave_b_quick: just kidding, not a rule (12:54 PM) Gorillatrader: lol (12:54 PM) david h_2: Hi GT (12:55 PM) Gorillatrader: hi david (12:55 PM) elly_34: DAVe, see my question? (12:55 PM) dave_b_quick: retro should be short from 1369, no? Or 1368 if you waited to break the 5m uptrend line (12:55 PM) Daniel X: yes 68 (12:55 PM) david h_2: what have you been up to? (12:55 PM) dave_b_quick: yes, elly Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (12:56 PM) Gorillatrader: trading (12:56 PM) david h_2: any time off? (12:57 PM) Gorillatrader: nope (12:57 PM) david h_2: hard worker (12:58 PM) Gorillatrader: unfortunetely, all these markets require focused attention (12:58 PM) david h_2: I just got back from a month off - now I feel like a slacker lol (12:58 PM) dave_b_quick: was wondering where you had got to (12:58 PM) Gorillatrader: wow, great..where you go? (12:59 PM) david h_2: upstate NY mostly to my country house (12:59 PM) dave_b_quick: near buffalo? (01:00 PM) Gorillatrader: fantastic (01:00 PM) david h_2: I thoungh if I didnt tell any one the mrk would stay flat while i was away LOL (01:00 PM) Daniel X: step into Canada David? (01:00 PM) Mkt_Stud: Hi, Just going over the charts posted. Are the prices identified the price of the order fill? (01:00 PM) jimbo_320: out es +2, nq+5 (01:00 PM) dave_b_quick: we managed to stay above the 3 yr low for you (just) (01:00 PM) Buffy_04364: you know the market isn't the only thing nuts - colored leaves on the ground and over 80 here (01:00 PM) Gorillatrader: nice, jimbo WTG (01:01 PM) Buffy_04364: very nice Jimbo (01:01 PM) david h_2: no but i did get close up near the border- I saw a sign to the great north (01:01 PM) Mkt_Stud: Now, can I go to the charts, Jimbo, and see your entry/exit points. On the 5 point NQ trade? (01:02 PM) jimbo_320: dont usually trade lunch except on good setups (01:02 PM) Mkt_Stud: Same here (01:03 PM) david h_2: dave I was up at your level but off to the east (01:03 PM) dave_b_quick: oh, some nice turf over there (01:03 PM) jimbo_320: dont post entries exits but usually sell trend breaks (01:04 PM) Mkt_Stud: Where do you see support for NQU1? Price? (01:04 PM) david h_2: its big and wild was there for 4 days tug hill area (01:04 PM) Mkt_Stud: I have 1351 (01:04 PM) Buffy_04364: 1356 (01:04 PM) Mkt_Stud: Thanks (01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: should take a breather there anyway (01:05 PM) Buffy_04364: time will tell (01:05 PM) elly_34: can i get a catch up on retro total? Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (01:06 PM) elly_34: por favor (01:06 PM) Mkt_Stud: Do you observe both the NQ, and Cash to make a decision. Or just the NQ's? (01:06 PM) Buffy_04364: me just the nq (01:06 PM) Mkt_Stud: Ok (01:09 PM) dave_b_quick: haven't tallied retro, elly, got caught up in some freestyle trades (01:09 PM) Daniel X: were falling back into the 15 min downtrend channel (01:09 PM) Buffy_04364: I like that dave - freestyle trades (01:09 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (01:10 PM) Daniel X: 200 ema on 5 min key (01:10 PM) Daniel X: 1353 (01:10 PM) jimbo_320: Mkd stud, posted NQ trade charts, sold 65.5, got support wrong though (01:10 PM) dave_b_quick: still using the same patterns retro uses, but on shorter TF's today (01:11 PM) elly_34: using which one today dave? (01:11 PM) jimbo_320: jimbo3 (01:11 PM) Buffy_04364: beanman has put up pyra es (01:11 PM) dave_b_quick: 15/5/1 (01:11 PM) Mkt_Stud: Thanks, jimbo (01:11 PM) Buffy_04364: hope I haven't been a bad influence here :-) (01:12 PM) Buffy_04364: using the smaller TF (01:12 PM) dave_b_quick: no, T does it too (01:12 PM) Buffy_04364: tks for charts jimbo (01:12 PM) rediplus-br: does somebody trades emini with rediplus? (01:12 PM) Buffy_04364: thought that was only on the open dave (01:12 PM) Buffy_04364: has she changed (01:13 PM) Buffy_04364: not that I know of redi (01:13 PM) dave_b_quick: ya, she does 1m at open, then 3 and 5 (01:13 PM) dave_b_quick: rediplus is a broker? (01:14 PM) rediplus-br: do you know some broker that i can contact to use emini with rediplus(a software)? (01:14 PM) Orprepus: posted 16m nq pp channel walking (01:15 PM) Buffy_04364: yes I saw orp sorry didn't comment nice one (01:15 PM) Buffy_04364: amazing isn't it (01:15 PM) Buffy_04364: no I don't redi (01:15 PM) Orprepus: love this pp - has put me into the zone (01:15 PM) rediplus-br: ok thanks.i am looking for a good emini broker,do you have one buffy? (01:15 PM) Buffy_04364: that is exactly what it is suppose to do (01:16 PM) Buffy_04364: I use pfgbest Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (01:16 PM) Buffy_04364: others use ib (01:16 PM) ppusa: this pullback to 1355 reversed all the charts that were in buy status. Now the rest are double tops or sells so could go up (01:16 PM) rediplus-br: i mean an eletronic ,fast and cheap? (01:16 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone? (01:16 PM) dave_b_quick: check the links at dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com, rediplus (01:17 PM) Buffy_04364: is the one up on how to pick a broker too dave? (01:17 PM) dave_b_quick: ya (01:17 PM) Buffy_04364: great tks (01:17 PM) ppusa: could go down too (01:17 PM) rediplus-br: thanks,folks (01:18 PM) Daniel X: mach in neg zone (01:18 PM) Buffy_04364: u welc Paltalk: To visit our sponsors, click on banners! (01:18 PM) Daniel X: macd (01:18 PM) Daniel X: rsi in oversold zone (01:19 PM) ppusa: Dave would you say that retro gets a buy at 61 on retracenebt bar rule? (01:19 PM) dave_b_quick: no, a sell at 56 (add to short) (01:19 PM) Daniel X: PPUSA 61 would be his ib stop rule (01:19 PM) Buffy_04364: is he still short off of inside bar? (01:20 PM) dave_b_quick: ya, retro is short 3 now (01:20 PM) Buffy_04364: tks (01:21 PM) Buffy_04364: 1348? (01:21 PM) jimbo_320: yikes (01:21 PM) Daniel X: that would be the 200 ema on 15 min (01:21 PM) Gorillatrader: Retro is King of the Hill (01:21 PM) Buffy_04364: yep (01:21 PM) Daniel X: duh well yah (01:22 PM) jimbo_320: tick BLAST OFF (01:22 PM) dave_b_quick: da program good to retest low? (01:23 PM) Daniel X: PnF says 50 breaks us down (01:23 PM) Buffy_04364: tks daniel (01:23 PM) Daniel X: PPUSA agreed? (01:24 PM) ppusa: think 44.5 (01:24 PM) ppusa: depends on time frame (01:24 PM) Daniel X: 5/15 (01:24 PM) ppusa: 44.5 gives up everything nq has done all morning (01:24 PM) Daniel X: true (01:25 PM) jimbo_320: v.h.v.b nq (01:25 PM) Daniel X: 42 i see as major slippage (01:25 PM) Daniel X: jimbo? (01:26 PM) ppusa: so far this just takes out the longs (01:26 PM) jimbo_320: 66 was the perfect short TL LOD retracement Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (01:26 PM) jimbo_320: very high volume bar (01:26 PM) Daniel X: ok thnx (01:26 PM) ppusa: below this, i would think shows shorting (01:27 PM) Daniel X: so far we're going no where same as friday (01:27 PM) jimbo_320: a new week, i forgot how to time my exit :-( (01:27 PM) ppusa: anyone bullish, this retracement went to a couple 200ma's (01:28 PM) Buffy_04364: hope the whole week isn't like this waiting for numbers on friday (01:28 PM) Daniel X: we're staying aroung the 1361 pivot and days open (01:30 PM) Daniel X: were in a nice bottom filling pattern since Friday (01:30 PM) Daniel X: 1340 to 1380 (01:31 PM) ppusa: long (01:31 PM) jimbo_320: we might get a bounce of the es 60 min UTL (01:31 PM) Daniel X: pop a couple of viagras with that PP (01:31 PM) ppusa: 1361.5 i believe is old 4/4 low (01:31 PM) jimbo_320: BBs have more DS btw (01:32 PM) Buffy_04364: flag on 3m? (01:32 PM) dave_b_quick: yup (01:32 PM) Gorillatrader: strong downtrend (01:32 PM) jimbo_320: last monday didnt we head up a lot then head south to lower than open (01:33 PM) Orprepus: jimbo - last monday we were close labor day (01:33 PM) js1257: Is the best way to get in/out a market order? (01:33 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (01:33 PM) elly_34: is buffy here? (01:33 PM) Buffy_04364: yes elly (01:33 PM) elly_34: oh buffy where do i find pyrapoint study on ensign? (01:33 PM) Buffy_04364: draw tools the P (01:34 PM) elly_34: k (01:34 PM) Daniel X: RSI says we is oversold dudes and dudetts (01:34 PM) ppusa: EXCUSE ME nq was open monday. Tuesday up for high of week (01:34 PM) elly_34: and how do i get a custom tf as in 4? (01:34 PM) elly_34: thanks (01:34 PM) dave_b_quick: in ensign? (01:34 PM) jimbo_320: ok tues? was the big swing day? (01:34 PM) Daniel X: yes tues (01:35 PM) Orprepus: yes tues (01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: click on the T icon (01:35 PM) ppusa: all trading monday was on Dan. Unfortunately, fortunately for Dan, i made a little so he didn't have to cough up anything here. (01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: click on set in lower right corner (01:35 PM) Daniel X: lol (01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: change one of the times to one you want (01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: click on ok (01:35 PM) Orprepus: lol (01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: then click on the one you changed (01:35 PM) Daniel X: glad to be of service PP (01:35 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL ppusa (01:35 PM) Orprepus: dan moved the market on monday (01:35 PM) elly_34: oh nice (01:35 PM) elly_34: ty so much (01:35 PM) jimbo_320: :-) (01:36 PM) Buffy_04364: u welc Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (01:36 PM) ppusa: IFIFIF and I am not sayingit will, but if nq closes + on day, practically guarantee a higher high tomorrow (01:36 PM) Daniel X: i think were basing PP (01:37 PM) ppusa: yes (01:37 PM) Daniel X: since friday (01:37 PM) Orprepus: what a qualifier "practically guarantee" (01:37 PM) ppusa: daily charts are very steep (01:37 PM) elly_34: how many degrees do u set for the 4 min or do u use a diff tf? (01:37 PM) jimbo_320: O, we got the HOD :-) (01:37 PM) ppusa: okok Orp (01:37 PM) Daniel X: PP buy me acontract (01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: 11.25 (01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: use up and down arrow (01:37 PM) Buffy_04364: not typing in figures (01:37 PM) Orprepus: hey dan hod in ? (01:38 PM) elly_34: k (01:38 PM) Daniel X: don't think so (01:38 PM) Daniel X: but i make more $ not thinking (01:38 PM) ppusa: I got one for you Dan, one for Buffy, one for Orp, one for Dave, 1.2 a one for GT as he doesn't need the money, 1 and a quarter for Elly, (01:39 PM) Daniel X: lol (01:39 PM) ppusa: 1/2 for GT (01:39 PM) Orprepus: thxs pp - cover now we in the money right (01:39 PM) Gorillatrader: protesting for my Fair Share (01:40 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (01:40 PM) ppusa: ]out (01:40 PM) Daniel X: the possiblity of takeing out hod will come with the Train imo (01:40 PM) Daniel X: 1361 pivot again (01:41 PM) ppusa: yes, i do like the long side from the right levels (01:41 PM) Buffy_04364: retro stopped out on ib right? (01:42 PM) Tom_B: isn't retro long 60 ? (01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: I believe so and should of said on the short he was in (01:42 PM) Buffy_04364: sorry (01:43 PM) dave_b_quick: no IB here, but stopped out on higher low at 57, long 60 (01:43 PM) Tom_B: no need to saay sry...i don't hve a 5m ib... (01:43 PM) Buffy_04364: tks dave (01:43 PM) Daniel X: this may sound odd but ..by looking at macd there has been more positive little trends than negative ones since last wed aft (01:44 PM) Daniel X: only because the up moves are alot quicker (01:45 PM) Daniel X: PP should i cover another one of my 93 sells? (01:45 PM) Buffy_04364: GT just posted 15M with TL and why would not take the long (01:45 PM) Buffy_04364: with retro (01:46 PM) Buffy_04364: 3M also banging up against the bottomof a TL Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (01:47 PM) ppusa: not yet Dan (01:47 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (01:47 PM) ppusa: was that 1393 or 1493? (01:48 PM) Daniel X: 13 Paltalk: Subscribe to Paltalk Plus to stop the popups today! Get it NOW for less than THREE CENTS a day! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (01:50 PM) Daniel X: PnF holding that 50 (01:50 PM) ppusa: seems like whenever there are a bunch of days down, there is always one last late shake before the up day to make sure all the floor traders get long. (01:51 PM) Daniel X: didn't we have it in the friday chop? (01:52 PM) tomsurf: not so sure floor traders need very much time to go any dierection (01:52 PM) Daniel X: nervous shorts covering near april lows (01:53 PM) ppusa: Like putting in the low in the night session (01:53 PM) ppusa: always something to keep the rest of us on edge (01:53 PM) jimbo_320: ppusa, i might start trading that, 9am in the morning here. (01:54 PM) Daniel X: where are u ..out west? (01:54 PM) ppusa: lots of opps at 4:30 pst (01:54 PM) ppusa: who? (01:54 PM) Daniel X: jim (01:55 PM) ppusa: england (01:55 PM) Daniel X: no really!? (01:55 PM) Daniel X: no (01:56 PM) Daniel X: 7 pm (01:56 PM) jimbo_320: 5.30 and 7.00, consistently high and lows Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (01:56 PM) ppusa: i want to buy a Porsche and take delivery in Europe....Convertible....Buffy and I will drive around for a month while you all babysit our accounts!!! (01:57 PM) Daniel X: PPUSA i see you in my rear view mirror!! (01:57 PM) ppusa: snicker, snicker (01:58 PM) Daniel X: that little spect is you? (01:58 PM) Daniel X: speck (01:58 PM) jimbo_320: £28,000 for a boxster tiptronic (01:58 PM) Daniel X: Boxster is a hoover (01:58 PM) Daniel X: vacuum cleaner (01:58 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (01:58 PM) ppusa: i have always liked the lines of the 911 sereies (01:59 PM) jimbo_320: carrera, big bucks (01:59 PM) Buffy_04364: has to be when the tulips are out in Holland - would love to see that again (01:59 PM) Daniel X: 911 only true porsche (01:59 PM) ppusa: used to have one and figured when i sold it, i would never be able to afford another. (01:59 PM) jimbo_320: sell your longs and u might :-) (01:59 PM) ppusa: when are the tullips out? (02:00 PM) ppusa: cheap shot JImbo (02:00 PM) Daniel X: the M3 is the car to own right (02:00 PM) Daniel X: now (02:00 PM) Buffy_04364: who posted the 1.jpg? (02:00 PM) Buffy_04364: on QCOM? (02:00 PM) Gorillatrader: can't get an M3 off showroom, 1 year+ waiting list for new ones (02:01 PM) Daniel X: GT buy a place in line off Ebay (02:01 PM) ppusa: raly rally rally (02:01 PM) jimbo_320: get one in a month over here (02:02 PM) ppusa: unfortunately the only long i bot back was my own. Sorry everyone (02:02 PM) Daniel X: u still holding mine right? (02:02 PM) ppusa: nonono (02:02 PM) Daniel X: aaww (02:03 PM) Daniel X: GT Ebay sells waiting list spots (02:03 PM) Gorillatrader: really? (02:03 PM) Daniel X: jimbo right hand drive though? (02:03 PM) Daniel X: yes GT (02:03 PM) Daniel X: last i checked in April (02:03 PM) jimbo_320: europe is lhd, uk rhd (02:04 PM) Daniel X: I thought they decided to keep the M3 left hand only (02:04 PM) Daniel X: oh well (02:05 PM) Daniel X: ORP think the HOD is in? (02:05 PM) Daniel X: Train a comin (02:05 PM) Gorillatrader: rallying off dbl bottom (02:06 PM) Daniel X: rsi in buy zone (02:06 PM) jimbo_320: SOX LOD was 502 a turning point? Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (02:06 PM) Daniel X: macd attempting positivity (02:06 PM) ppusa: out (02:07 PM) Daniel X: 1361 pivot holding this back like the magnet it should (02:07 PM) Daniel X: Dow -3 (02:07 PM) Daniel X: so things are looking up imo (02:08 PM) mr_toad: limit sell at 1091.50 (02:08 PM) mr_toad: done (02:08 PM) mr_toad: stop at 93.50 (02:08 PM) ppusa: i would love to see a retest of the real low and then close, gap up tomorrow and everyone misses the higher high (02:09 PM) Daniel X: now y would u want me to miss it? (02:09 PM) Daniel X: something i said? (02:10 PM) ppusa: everyone else (02:10 PM) ppusa: in again (02:10 PM) ppusa: except our room (02:10 PM) Daniel X: oh ok phew! (02:12 PM) Daniel X: caution on the short side (02:12 PM) Daniel X: 3 min says long (02:12 PM) ppusa: this last pb looks like the low of the 15 minute bar getting ready for a new high (02:13 PM) mr_toad: doesn't want to move.....limit but at 91.25 (02:13 PM) mr_toad: out (02:13 PM) ppusa: out (02:13 PM) Daniel X: ditto PP (02:13 PM) ppusa: but the whole thing could be a flag tonew lows (02:13 PM) mr_toad: hmmmm....not patient enough (02:14 PM) ppusa: so now i am waiting (02:14 PM) Daniel X: we need volume here to get away from this magnetic pivot1361 (02:14 PM) mr_toad: $2.50 for me...& $10 for broker (02:14 PM) mr_toad: short again at 90 (02:14 PM) Daniel X: ribbit (02:14 PM) ppusa: in (02:15 PM) ppusa: // (02:15 PM) ppusa: \\ (02:15 PM) ppusa: // (02:15 PM) ppusa: \\ (02:15 PM) Buffy_04364: yep chop chop (02:15 PM) Daniel X: thats what the 2:20 does (02:16 PM) jimbo_320: // (02:16 PM) jimbo_320: \\ (02:16 PM) jimbo_320: // (02:16 PM) Daniel X: slows down everything (02:16 PM) ppusa: no wonder it takes quicken an hour and a half to update my transactions (02:16 PM) mr_toad: short again at 91.25 (02:16 PM) Buffy_04364: this thing wants to go up NQ Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (02:16 PM) Daniel X: yes it does (02:17 PM) Daniel X: and with the train on the tracks i think this could be big (02:17 PM) mr_toad: limit to buy 2 at 89.75 (02:18 PM) mr_toad: out (02:18 PM) Daniel X: good (02:18 PM) ppusa: still think one more fakey could be in the cards (02:18 PM) Daniel X: i'll almost never go short at this time Paltalk: Please visit our advertisers by clicking on banners. (02:18 PM) Daniel X: 2:20 (02:18 PM) mr_toad: I leave lots of margin on hand to average my positions up or down (02:19 PM) mr_toad: it usually works (02:19 PM) Buffy_04364: ? (02:19 PM) Buffy_04364: that report at 3 having something to do with this (02:19 PM) Daniel X: u should join our after market meeting thurs (02:19 PM) Daniel X: on mmm (02:19 PM) Daniel X: mm (02:19 PM) mr_toad: but I was to impatient again (02:20 PM) Daniel X: Buffy a little early i think (02:20 PM) elly_34: having an aftermarket meeting? (02:20 PM) Daniel X: elly yes on money management (02:20 PM) Daniel X: thursday (02:20 PM) elly_34: excellent (02:20 PM) elly_34: brb (02:21 PM) Buffy_04364: positioning fo rit maybe? (02:21 PM) Daniel X: rit? (02:21 PM) Daniel X: rev in tr (02:21 PM) Buffy_04364: for it (02:21 PM) Daniel X: nnd (02:21 PM) Daniel X: oh gotcha (02:22 PM) Daniel X: rit reverse in trend i thought (02:22 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (02:22 PM) Daniel X: we have a new one (02:22 PM) Buffy_04364: just moved the space - keyboard doesn't keep up with me sometimes (02:22 PM) Daniel X: i know (02:23 PM) mr_toad: where and when is this meeting? (02:23 PM) Daniel X: here on thursday (02:23 PM) Zentigerrrr: Hey there:D (02:23 PM) Buffy_04364: here about 4:30 (02:23 PM) mr_toad: what time? (02:23 PM) Buffy_04364: thursday (02:23 PM) Buffy_04364: www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com announces it (02:23 PM) Daniel X: 430 i think (02:23 PM) mr_toad: 4:30 NY Time? (02:23 PM) Daniel X: yes (02:23 PM) mr_toad: ok....will try (02:24 PM) Daniel X: Zen hi (02:24 PM) Buffy_04364: It is a big subject but we will try to hit on the highlights and have plenty of reading material on it (02:25 PM) ppusa: how long will it take to buy a Porsche making 6 dollars a trade averaging say 20 trades a day? (02:25 PM) Daniel X: Retro still short 55.50 (02:25 PM) Daniel X: lol (02:25 PM) ppusa: not counting Holidays off course (02:25 PM) mr_toad: limit sell at 88.50 (02:25 PM) Buffy_04364: I don't like math that much LOL (02:25 PM) mr_toad: done (02:26 PM) Daniel X: trade Retro exclusively for 1 month but it cash (02:26 PM) Buffy_04364: time line coming up in pyra (02:26 PM) Zentigerrrr: Perfect cup and handle forming on the 60 min chart (02:26 PM) mr_toad: limit sell at 89.50 (02:26 PM) Daniel X: hope this 15 min bar hangs down here so i can take the top long (02:26 PM) ppusa: the most positive thing i see about today is nq seems to be working up trendlines instead of down ones (02:26 PM) Buffy_04364: flag or reversal??? Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (02:27 PM) jimbo_320: practice your exits, if your only making 6 bucks a trade LOL (02:27 PM) Daniel X: cup n handle moves us up (02:27 PM) Daniel X: ZEN on NQ? (02:27 PM) mr_toad: not going to get 89.50 (02:27 PM) Zentigerrrr: Yup rightside and bottom done next we go up (02:27 PM) Daniel X: thnx (02:27 PM) Zentigerrrr: for left side of cup on the NQs (02:28 PM) ppusa: my entries today as i said earlier, have been awful. My market orders are getting killed (02:28 PM) Daniel X: gotcha (02:28 PM) Daniel X: PPUSA wanna hold my hand on this one? (02:28 PM) Daniel X: just kidding (02:28 PM) Zentigerrrr: Positive divergence on MACD lots of downtrendlines broken on 60 min charts and Doji's all over the place on the big caps and idexes for the daily charts (02:28 PM) ppusa: which (02:28 PM) ppusa: Dave are u still short? (02:29 PM) Daniel X: this volitility kills market exits..i hate it (02:29 PM) Daniel X: Zen are u trading? (02:29 PM) jimbo_320: still range bound 90 is the TL retracement short (02:29 PM) Zentigerrrr: I am making a chart to show if you like to see it in a min (02:29 PM) Buffy_04364: plse zen (02:29 PM) Zentigerrrr: Mostly holding long for a position play on the NQs ESs (02:30 PM) mr_toad: limit to sell at 90.50 (02:30 PM) Daniel X: i'm watvhing macd ..but rsi moving into overbought zone (02:30 PM) Daniel X: oh ok so you also expect a nice bounce here today? (02:30 PM) mr_toad: got 89.50 (02:30 PM) ppusa: just lost another point on a market order (02:31 PM) mr_toad: and 88.50 (02:31 PM) jimbo_320: what is this report (02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: what broker ppusa (02:31 PM) Daniel X: consumer credat (02:31 PM) Buffy_04364: consumer credit (02:32 PM) ppusa: pats system (02:32 PM) jimbo_320: how much people are borrowing? (02:32 PM) ppusa: u know, made in ENGLAND (02:32 PM) Daniel X: well know how many of us are living off our credit cards (02:32 PM) mr_toad: short again at 90.50 (02:32 PM) ppusa: Sorry Jimbo but... (02:33 PM) jimbo_320: well we all know thats gonna be high (02:33 PM) mr_toad: buying 3 at 88.50 limit (02:34 PM) Daniel X: lol (02:34 PM) mr_toad: c'mon!!! (02:34 PM) Daniel X: question is...if it leads to confidently borrowing or extending debt load (02:34 PM) jimbo_320: we had record borrowing this year, the average family owes 6K on credit cards year (02:35 PM) mr_toad: not getting 88.50 (02:36 PM) Daniel X: well it will be big up or big down bar...if u take the trade i doubt you'll have time to put youe stop in if you're on the wrong side (02:36 PM) ppusa: nq rally (02:36 PM) jimbo_320: the train arrived few minutes late (02:36 PM) mr_toad: out at 91 (02:36 PM) Gorillatrader: why get out? (02:36 PM) mr_toad: I was short (02:36 PM) Gorillatrader: oh, sorry Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (02:37 PM) ppusa: out (02:37 PM) jimbo_320: 14 point chop here on es (02:38 PM) jimbo_320: sorry i mean 4 (02:38 PM) Daniel X: damn what was that?...my account showed a fill 10 points below (02:38 PM) tomsurf: TRIN actually staying on the low side today (02:38 PM) Daniel X: ??? (02:38 PM) tomsurf: .62 (02:38 PM) ppusa: nq held 15 and 30 minute 200 bar ma's on last pb. (02:38 PM) Daniel X: now i'm mad (02:38 PM) Daniel X: brb (02:39 PM) jimbo_320: tom, low all day (02:39 PM) tomsurf: yes jimbo...interesting (02:39 PM) Daniel X: $#@%&*(^%$#@#$%* (02:40 PM) Buffy_04364: what happened daniel (02:40 PM) jimbo_320: es bumps of that 95 again (02:40 PM) elly_34: wow there are 53 in here today (02:41 PM) Buffy_04364: the free rooms from last week are over elly (02:41 PM) tomsurf: and all Anonymous, LOL (02:41 PM) jimbo_320: some strange nicks too (02:41 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (02:41 PM) Buffy_04364: some cute ones too (02:41 PM) Daniel X: i had a limit @ 64 says i was filled 54 so i cut it and got .5 of a point on my limit @ 64 (02:41 PM) Buffy_04364: that is unusal (02:42 PM) Buffy_04364: for a limit (02:42 PM) Daniel X: figured i had 10 points but had $10 (02:42 PM) Buffy_04364: ick (02:42 PM) Daniel X: i know horrible (02:43 PM) Buffy_04364: going to take a break brefore that report comes on (02:43 PM) Buffy_04364: brb (02:43 PM) Daniel X: now i cannot get in ..clueless a bit for an entry (02:43 PM) rambler_12: is eminime taken? (02:43 PM) ppusa: nq holding uptrend line from Friday (02:44 PM) Daniel X: huh? (02:44 PM) ppusa: huh who? (02:45 PM) Daniel X: minime from that mike myers movie? (02:45 PM) Daniel X: i dunno what ever (02:46 PM) ppusa: you referring to the ""lazer""? Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (02:47 PM) Daniel X: Bambi Syndrome......what do i do what do i do ? (02:48 PM) Tom_B: step off the road ? Paltalk: Your friends are just a click away! Press the invite button NOW! (02:49 PM) Daniel X: in in the middle of a 6 lane highway!!!! (02:49 PM) ppusa: which way did he go, which way did he go.exit stage right (02:49 PM) Daniel X: which way is off? (02:49 PM) Tom_B: This will be the feast or Famine trade.. (02:49 PM) Tom_B: wish i knew..:) (02:49 PM) Daniel X: i agree (02:50 PM) ppusa: off is that big button on the front of your computer (02:50 PM) Daniel X: Tom u go long i'll go short so we'll cut the loser and share the $ (02:50 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL (02:50 PM) Tom_B: I think long is the way to go...lets bull spread it.. (02:51 PM) jimbo_320: but it might be choppy and you'll both lose (02:51 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (02:51 PM) Daniel X: not if we both hold (02:51 PM) Buffy_04364: diabolical jim very good (02:51 PM) Daniel X: ha ha (02:51 PM) Tom_B: :) (02:51 PM) jimbo_320: but at least it will be 1/2 a loss (02:51 PM) Daniel X: ;-) (02:52 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (02:52 PM) Tom_B: with the fills today we'll get skidded big time coming & going.. (02:52 PM) Buffy_04364: 10 min to report (02:52 PM) Daniel X: big bar coming (02:53 PM) elly_34: what kind of bull spread you do Tom? (02:53 PM) Tom_B: none (02:53 PM) elly_34: oh (02:53 PM) Tom_B: just chewing the Bull.. (02:53 PM) elly_34: lol (02:53 PM) Buffy_04364: test of high? (02:53 PM) Tom_B: :) (02:54 PM) elly_34: does anyone see howard on paltalk and if so what's his name? (02:54 PM) elly_34: nick? (02:54 PM) Buffy_04364: took me a while to get there jokes too (02:54 PM) Buffy_04364: Ensign Software (02:54 PM) Buffy_04364: he has been on a while (02:54 PM) elly_34: lol, k (02:54 PM) Daniel X: thats what the bear said to the bull spread em and don't worry i'm short!! (02:55 PM) tomsurf: Daniel, ;-) (02:55 PM) ppusa: Sick (02:55 PM) Tom_B: what a visual... (02:55 PM) ppusa: oh gee (02:55 PM) Zentigerrrr: Ok I have a nice visual for you guys if you like on the Naz (02:55 PM) Tom_B: fasten ur seatbelts.. (02:55 PM) Daniel X: fastened (02:56 PM) Zentigerrrr: This is why you are going to see a powerful rally (02:56 PM) Zentigerrrr: http://www.geocities.com/zentigerrrr/ (02:56 PM) Zentigerrrr: Check out the chart (02:56 PM) Daniel X: thnx ZEN (02:56 PM) Daniel X: lets see how they digest this 1rst (02:57 PM) Buffy_04364: just watching here (02:57 PM) Zentigerrrr: So the chart says we will not see lower lows from here (02:57 PM) Daniel X: daily lower lows? (02:57 PM) Gorillatrader: my vision is blurred over a 9min timeframe Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (02:57 PM) Zentigerrrr: with today likely being the bottom add positive MACD divergence (02:57 PM) Buffy_04364: I might believe that if it can get though this week first (02:58 PM) Buffy_04364: this is start of warnings and next week should be the worse (02:58 PM) Gorillatrader: we have a visionary among the group...sees future (02:58 PM) Daniel X: positive macd div since friday (02:58 PM) Buffy_04364: news still have a way of messing those up daniel? (02:59 PM) Daniel X: yes (02:59 PM) jimbo_320: nq 60 might be making bull flag today (02:59 PM) Daniel X: hate that (02:59 PM) ppusa: cup and handle on 5 minute (02:59 PM) Zentigerrrr: Well statistics in the favor of the longs here, I only know numbers :) give me dice where 7 or more numbers out of 10 are in my favor and then I will play the game (02:59 PM) jimbo_320: y pp (02:59 PM) Gorillatrader: tell me the stats so i learn too (03:01 PM) Zentigerrrr: Great book for such is Encyclopedia of charts by wiley press (03:01 PM) Daniel X: yet another tool for my chest! (03:01 PM) ppusa: when is this big report? (03:01 PM) Daniel X: 3 (03:01 PM) Daniel X: 2 min (03:01 PM) Zentigerrrr: Thomas N. Bulkoski is the author (03:01 PM) Gorillatrader: thx (03:01 PM) hagenkb: what report ? (03:01 PM) ppusa: consumer credit? (03:01 PM) ppusa: cup and handle on 30 tick (03:01 PM) Daniel X: Surez Whipoza is an author that comes to mind here (03:02 PM) Buffy_04364: y (03:02 PM) Orprepus: lol (03:02 PM) ppusa: if nq goes over 70 i buy unless it's off a report (03:02 PM) Tom_B: whrs the beef ? (03:03 PM) Tom_B: nice of them to hold the train (03:03 PM) Daniel X: yes (03:03 PM) Daniel X: tension mounting i can feel it (03:03 PM) rambler_12: c c unchanged (03:03 PM) Daniel X: really uh oh (03:04 PM) jimbo_320: 7 points chop on es (03:04 PM) Buffy_04364: thanks rambler (03:04 PM) hagenkb: ty rambler (03:04 PM) Daniel X: thats + (03:05 PM) Daniel X: for the banks but - for confidence in borrowing (03:05 PM) Zentigerrrr: I would be doing some scalps but nothing doing today, an upside pop soon is very likely so I am sitting on my hands mostly holding the position play (03:06 PM) Daniel X: from lod ZEN/ (03:06 PM) Daniel X: ? (03:06 PM) Daniel X: if u don't mind (03:06 PM) ppusa: nq take out 57 then up? (03:06 PM) Daniel X: of course (03:06 PM) Gorillatrader: so we have seen the LOWS, loading up on Longs for the big rally (03:06 PM) Zentigerrrr: I am up 20 points on the NQs for intraday trades not holding any positions at the moment (03:07 PM) ppusa: breaks 50 yuk (03:07 PM) Gorillatrader: I'm Short, doing great, thank you Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (03:07 PM) jimbo_320: 53 is TL bottom (03:07 PM) Gorillatrader: Short at 1365 NQ (03:08 PM) Daniel X: watch the snap back (03:08 PM) Gorillatrader: thx Dan, locking in 10 with BuyStop (03:08 PM) ppusa: consumer credit remained unchanged (03:09 PM) Gorillatrader: 10 pts, 12 min (03:09 PM) Daniel X: good (03:09 PM) jimbo_320: 86 es is the 20ema30 (03:09 PM) Gorillatrader: don't need forecasts (03:09 PM) tomsurf: GT- that'll work ;-) (03:09 PM) Daniel X: ;-0 (03:09 PM) Gorillatrader: thx, works all the time (03:10 PM) Buffy_04364: GT how is best working today for you? (03:11 PM) Gorillatrader: good with stops and limits (03:11 PM) Tom_B: Buffy open trade psition not always right but $ ok (03:11 PM) Buffy_04364: second one hung in pending for today (03:11 PM) Daniel X: that's what happened to me and i cut a long! (03:11 PM) Daniel X: too early (03:12 PM) Daniel X: trade position error (03:12 PM) Gorillatrader: happens, if they don't improve by next update end of month, will look for somebody else (03:12 PM) jimbo_320: dow breaks support (03:13 PM) klonerdoug: only traded open today ...my best account acitvates tm (03:13 PM) Daniel X: Bull Bear brawl on Wallstreet (03:13 PM) klonerdoug: use zap and ib now (03:14 PM) ppusa: that zen chart looks like nq is getting ready for another sell off because it assumes that nq will turn up whereas the approach to the moving averages is flat and suggests it is working off an oversold condition. (03:14 PM) klonerdoug: so best is slow today? (03:14 PM) Tom_B: no prob with me..I'm on server B (03:15 PM) Gorillatrader: zap expensive for eminis (03:16 PM) timing 2: wat do u pay zap $15 (03:16 PM) Daniel X: not slow just errors (03:17 PM) Tom_B: no prob here (03:17 PM) Cytrader: I'm a broker with Best... its humming. (03:17 PM) Daniel X: this morn i had quote problem (03:17 PM) klonerdoug: can u force servers? (03:17 PM) Daniel X: b also Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (03:17 PM) Tom_B: whn hve u guys started hvng probs / Best ? (03:18 PM) Daniel X: 5 min EMAs are flat (03:18 PM) klonerdoug: just a back up for me (03:18 PM) timing 2: $15 Paltalk: Go bannerless and support PalTalk! Subscribe today! Only $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then click 'Bannerless PalTalk'. (03:19 PM) Tom_B: Daniel, who..Best ? (03:19 PM) ppusa: this last sell off isan example of what i was describing as something that would happen before nq would put in a nigher high (03:19 PM) Daniel X: wheres the Zen chart? (03:20 PM) Cytrader: Daniel: You get quotes through Best? (03:20 PM) Cytrader: I didn't think we did that. (03:20 PM) Daniel X: since i opened my account (03:20 PM) Daniel X: lol (03:20 PM) Cytrader: Flash quotes, yes. (03:20 PM) Tom_B: if u get rt quotes..bid & offer, it slows it dwn.. (03:20 PM) Daniel X: but no biggie that a phone call can fix (03:21 PM) Gorillatrader: $15 for ZAP? that's good, they quoting $22 to $25 (03:21 PM) rambler_12: sometimes hang problems arise on the other end of the trade--imo (03:21 PM) jimbo_320: break 50 (03:21 PM) Daniel X: $15 rt (03:21 PM) Daniel X: ? (03:21 PM) Daniel X: yes i pay 10 (03:22 PM) Cytrader: www.geocities.com/zentigerrrr (03:22 PM) Zentigerrrr: You like that chart huh:) you should (03:22 PM) Tom_B: I use it with esig & with rt quotes it wud hang it up at times..so I disabled rt, just use the flash update on Best..no problems (03:22 PM) Daniel X: no just on my trade platform (03:22 PM) Zentigerrrr: very powerful chart if it holds to be true (03:22 PM) Daniel X: for entries it's faster (03:22 PM) Daniel X: flash only though (03:22 PM) Tom_B: it seems to happen when the software is updating and trying to get an order off...vry slow.. (03:23 PM) Daniel X: 20 point range since noon (03:23 PM) Cytrader: They'll be adding streamed e-mini quotes shortly. (03:23 PM) klonerdoug: i stream quotes thru another box so hopefully best pulls it's weight (03:24 PM) Cytrader: Kloner: Get on Server B if you're not already. (03:24 PM) klonerdoug: anyone feed esig into best platform? (03:24 PM) Tom_B: y (03:24 PM) klonerdoug: and it's hanging? (03:24 PM) Buffy_04364: ok guys I have just been on the phone with Luke my broker (03:24 PM) Tom_B: slows it dwn (03:25 PM) jimbo_320: zzz (03:25 PM) klonerdoug: k thanx a mill (03:25 PM) Daniel X: 1361 pivot giving trouble all day (03:25 PM) Buffy_04364: he is in chicago (03:25 PM) Daniel X: DOUG was it u who asked me for Best #? (03:25 PM) Daniel X: last week (03:25 PM) Buffy_04364: 1-800-417-8368 here (03:26 PM) klonerdoug: yeah (03:26 PM) klonerdoug: thanx (03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: he said no pfg broker should be telling you they can't do anything about pendings hanging etc (03:26 PM) Daniel X: ok kewl (03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: he is talking to tech now and is going to be calling me back to see if problems anyway (03:26 PM) klonerdoug: pm me dan (03:26 PM) Gorillatrader: server "B" only for eminis, can't trade anything else (03:26 PM) Buffy_04364: anyother complaints anyone wishes to lodge? (03:27 PM) Buffy_04364: that is right GT (03:27 PM) Tom_B: only take the winning trades :) (03:27 PM) Buffy_04364: and if that is all you trade you should request to be on it (03:27 PM) Buffy_04364: LOL Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (03:27 PM) klonerdoug: credit my demo account (03:27 PM) Daniel X: market looks + (03:28 PM) Buffy_04364: I have a number for that :-) (03:28 PM) Daniel X: guess the selling is over for a bit (03:28 PM) Buffy_04364: your broker should of given you a number for demo problems also (03:28 PM) Tom_B: mkt loks wht ? (03:28 PM) Daniel X: Buffy when u call the floor do u speak to Johnny? (03:28 PM) Cytrader: I can give you that:312-775-3530 (03:28 PM) Daniel X: positive + (03:28 PM) Tom_B: no floor.. (03:29 PM) Daniel X: i man tech sorry (03:29 PM) Buffy_04364: I call the trading desk - only had to twice - don't remember a johnny but not the same is it (03:29 PM) Daniel X: mean (03:29 PM) Daniel X: trading desk yes (03:29 PM) Buffy_04364: no talk to Joe for RT and Micah for simulator (03:29 PM) Tom_B: there is a johnny..desk is good, most of the time (03:29 PM) Buffy_04364: has always been for me (03:29 PM) Daniel X: desk is fast (03:30 PM) Cytrader: Micah is VERY good with the demo. (03:30 PM) Tom_B: only prob has been when merc went dwn... (03:30 PM) Tom_B: pandamonium (03:30 PM) Daniel X: Micah set me up on line accounts stuff (03:31 PM) klonerdoug: what happens when pandas become popular housepets (03:31 PM) Buffy_04364: Micah is the one that finally figured out java wasn't enabled on my browser when I first started the simulator (03:34 PM) Zentigerrrr: haha (03:34 PM) Zentigerrrr: pandas as house pets rofl (03:35 PM) rambler_12: yep -not enuff bamboo Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (03:38 PM) Zentigerrrr: Come on dow you are sping loaded pop into the close show the monkeys the real direction (03:39 PM) Daniel X: sell off time? (03:39 PM) Daniel X: 1361 pivot strong magnetism (03:40 PM) tomsurf: Daniel- have 1091 for ES too, lol (03:40 PM) Daniel X: hah lol (03:42 PM) Daniel X: plz don't make the move overnight!! (03:42 PM) tomsurf: NQ and ES just sitting on teh 15min ema fence (03:43 PM) Zentigerrrr: My guess is a gap up in the am (03:43 PM) Daniel X: most likely (03:44 PM) Tom_B: Daniel...lets do that Bull Spread...:) (03:44 PM) Daniel X: lol (03:44 PM) Zentigerrrr: Would be very likely have seen this in the past with positive divergence into the close (03:47 PM) Daniel X: 20point range since 11:45 (03:47 PM) Daniel X: 25 Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (03:48 PM) Zentigerrrr: And so with this day we start the incline (03:48 PM) Tom_B: Groan (03:48 PM) Buffy_04364: luke just called me back again (03:48 PM) Daniel X: yes i second that (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: he is going to try to get a work around for anyone who is being told by the broker there is nothing they can do Paltalk: Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. (03:49 PM) elly_34: nothing they can do re what? (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: simulator is slow sometimes because too many are trading unrealistically with 20-30 contracts and that boggs things down (03:49 PM) Daniel X: no trade for me too choppy no matter what i miss (03:49 PM) Buffy_04364: if all would trade realistically it wold work better (03:50 PM) Daniel X: 20 contracts LOL (03:50 PM) Daniel X: !!! (03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: orders hanging in pending etc elly (03:50 PM) elly_34: k (03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: the is no technical problems with the system (03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: especially B server (03:50 PM) klonerdoug: k buffy i'll lighten up when i use it (03:50 PM) Daniel X: cancelled a limit 69 long (03:50 PM) Daniel X: lets se what i've missed (03:50 PM) Cytrader: B server rocks, actually. (03:50 PM) Buffy_04364: I was told to trade the simulator just like a would my RT account when I opened it (03:51 PM) Buffy_04364: yes it does (03:51 PM) MarkCA: i have mkt orders also hanging in pending (03:51 PM) Cytrader: Its good to trade the demo like its reall helps with the psychology of it. (03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: on simulator or server B or what mark (03:52 PM) Zentigerrrr: This best demo does it have built in charts (03:52 PM) MarkCA: simm (03:52 PM) Cytrader: The demo is edgy. (03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: see mark orders are matched in their computer room (03:52 PM) Buffy_04364: while real time goes to globex (03:52 PM) Cytrader: Honestly, its because its creating a VERY detailed simulated trading environ. (03:53 PM) MarkCA: a demo not processing a mkt order is not acceptable (03:53 PM) Cytrader: Real time is hellaciously fast. (03:53 PM) Cytrader: Mark: Refresh it. (03:53 PM) MarkCA: how? (03:53 PM) Buffy_04364: regresh up top (03:53 PM) Buffy_04364: and if that doesn't work do a recalculate commodity (03:53 PM) Buffy_04364: typing in nqu1 for nqs (03:54 PM) Cytrader: MarK: You are right on that. But understand the server is matching an entire market to your order. (03:54 PM) Cytrader: Its prolly one of the best simulator out there. It just gets edgy now & again. (03:55 PM) klonerdoug: hows the demo work on the nd01u ? (03:55 PM) jimbo_320: softee up 4% today (03:55 PM) MarkCA: thats polite for not working (03:55 PM) klonerdoug: and sp large contract? (03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: don't know klonerdoug (03:55 PM) Buffy_04364: anyone else (03:56 PM) Cytrader: Mark: Thats polite for: Its damn advanced and needs more server space because people are demo trading it like mad. (03:56 PM) Buffy_04364: there are more people on the simulator than RT also (03:56 PM) Tom_B: thought they had seperate servers for demo's ? (03:56 PM) Cytrader: They do. (03:56 PM) ppusa: CNBC says the train is in the station.. (03:56 PM) Cytrader: But its got SO many people on it recently its a little burdened. (03:56 PM) MarkCA: simulator only useful if it approximates real trades. If it hangs, it is not useful. (03:57 PM) Cytrader: True. (03:57 PM) Buffy_04364: yes many have signed up because of new rules for daytrading stocks (03:57 PM) Cytrader: But don't damn the entire system. (03:57 PM) Buffy_04364: well, mark if you find a better one out there let us know (03:57 PM) Buffy_04364: I didn't (03:57 PM) Buffy_04364: but that was months ago Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (03:57 PM) Tom_B: ahhh, take ur place on the food chain.. (03:58 PM) Buffy_04364: lol (03:58 PM) Cytrader: Mark: Try refreshing it & see what happens. (03:59 PM) Zentigerrrr: Today is a doji for the Dow on the daily (03:59 PM) MarkCA: I did. one mkt order still hung in pending. tried recalculate also (03:59 PM) Tom_B: sometimes u just hve to close it & restart it, whn all else fails (03:59 PM) Cytrader: Ok, Mark, call Micah at 312-775-3530 (03:59 PM) Cytrader: He'll set it right. (04:00 PM) MarkCA: ok tks (04:00 PM) Tom_B: is that simulat e or rt / (04:00 PM) Tom_B: ? (04:00 PM) jimbo_320: ok guys have a good evening (04:00 PM) Cytrader: Micah for simulated. (04:01 PM) Tom_B: bye (04:01 PM) Buffy_04364: yes he will (04:03 PM) Buffy_04364: I have Joe for technical problems - same number just don't have to be transfered to micah (04:03 PM) Buffy_04364: Amanda also great to talk to (04:03 PM) Cytrader: That works too. (04:04 PM) rambler_12: amanda grove? : ) (04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: GT was it your broker who said nothing could be done to fix it all and to wait for the upgrade? (04:04 PM) shimster_1: Dave b quick u here? (04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: gee rambler don't know her last name (04:04 PM) Buffy_04364: should be shimster (04:05 PM) Buffy_04364: Dave?? (04:07 PM) Buffy_04364: patience shimster - he just hasn't noticed the screen yet - anything we can help with? Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! (04:08 PM) shimster_1: thanks i want to chat with Dave (04:08 PM) MarkCA: Buffy, what is typical time to execute market order on B server? (04:09 PM) Buffy_04364: I usually get it right back mark (04:09 PM) Buffy_04364: very seldom any delay (04:09 PM) MarkCA: meaning within 2 seconds? (04:09 PM) Buffy_04364: from when I hit the button to see it filled? (04:09 PM) MarkCA: yes (04:10 PM) Buffy_04364: maine only has one way out of state more like 5 (04:10 PM) Buffy_04364: others with better links to net is faster (04:10 PM) Zentigerrrr: Look for tomorrows am gap to be nice:) (04:10 PM) Zentigerrrr: 20 or more points (04:10 PM) Zentigerrrr: see ya (04:10 PM) Buffy_04364: k (04:11 PM) MarkCA: are you on DSL? dial up? (04:11 PM) Buffy_04364: dsl but hangs in boston sometimes according to tracert (04:12 PM) Tom_B: mine wrks the same wheater on dsl or dial up (04:12 PM) MarkCA: Tom, what do you guess your average time to confirmation is on a market order? (04:13 PM) Tom_B: 2-3 sec (04:13 PM) Tom_B: or less (04:13 PM) Tom_B: i send it..see next tick , see fill (04:14 PM) MarkCA: goiod (04:14 PM) Tom_B: the sneaky Pete close... (04:17 PM) Cytrader: Disappointing. (04:17 PM) Cytrader: See you all tomorrow. Paltalk: Get 12 FREE CDs! Click for Details, CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (04:18 PM) Buffy_04364: bye cytrader (04:18 PM) Tom_B: that was a dynamic move into t he close...anyone know how the "real" Retro did ? (04:18 PM) Buffy_04364: no I don't been on phone too much Paltalk: Are banners a bummer and popups a pain? Cure your banner blues NOW for $9.95 a year! Click HELP on your Pal List then select Bannerless PalTalk to subscribe now! No banners! No Popups! Fast video in all groups! (04:19 PM) Daniel X: 53 long out @ 66 on ib rul for Retro (04:20 PM) Daniel X: sorry long 64 out 66 (04:22 PM) Buffy_04364: room still here after that paltalk hiccup? (04:22 PM) Daniel X: i am (04:22 PM) Tom_B: ? (04:23 PM) Buffy_04364: tks (04:23 PM) klonerdoug: reading me tom? (04:23 PM) tang: y (04:23 PM) Tom_B: y (04:25 PM) ppusa: who? (04:25 PM) rich012: I have had better days, for sure (04:25 PM) rich012: yes (04:25 PM) Daniel X: can't get em all (04:26 PM) ppusa: i cleaned up (04:26 PM) ppusa: 123 bucks on 60 trades (04:26 PM) ppusa: what is that 2.00 a trade (04:26 PM) Tom_B: net of comm ? (04:26 PM) Daniel X: consider it a learning expeirence (04:26 PM) Daniel X: holy moly!!! (04:27 PM) Daniel X: just hand me your commissions daily ..i'll be happy!!!! (04:27 PM) ppusa: what a joke (04:27 PM) ppusa: anyway maybe the one long left will do more Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! (04:28 PM) ppusa: goodnight all (04:29 PM) Daniel X: PPUSA i'll set you up for 5 bucks a contract (04:29 PM) Daniel X: too late oh well (04:30 PM) Daniel X: g night everyone (04:30 PM) dave_b_quick: g'nite room (04:30 PM) klonerdoug: fwiw i'm expecting sideways days like today ... dow 9500 was long trigger today (04:30 PM) Daniel X: and to all you lurkers"SAY SOMETHING..ANYTHING" (04:30 PM) elly_34: consolidating before the next move down or some kinda bounce (04:30 PM) dave_b_quick: i'll stick around a little while (04:31 PM) dave_b_quick: can't consolidate forever (04:31 PM) elly_34: up or down, lol (04:31 PM) elly_34: yes (04:31 PM) elly_34: if it goes up or down buffy we are right (04:31 PM) elly_34: this is an important gann time and number from what i hear (04:31 PM) dave_b_quick: thanks, i keep forgetting (04:31 PM) shimster_1: G-night all (04:32 PM) elly_34: some are saying critical level was reached today and held (04:32 PM) elly_34: on spx referring to spx (04:33 PM) elly_34: linda rashke looking for more -1000 tick readings to signal a bototm (04:33 PM) elly_34: well good nite all, see u tomorrow (04:34 PM) elly_34: Buffy when will u be posting your methods? (04:35 PM) elly_34: well look forward to it,,,,,gnite (04:35 PM) wayne_53: Buffy...Since it seems you use short term charts, does that pretty much keep you out of bagging an elephant as Dave calls those big runs (04:36 PM) wayne_53: thnx (04:36 PM) wayne_53: baby elephants (04:36 PM) wayne_53: shame on you (04:37 PM) amer_68: Daniel: Hi, and hello all. Paltalk: Get your FREE credit report @ ConsumerInfo.Com! CLICK HERE NOW FOR YOUR FREE CREDIT REPORT! Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! Paltalk: Multivideo has been activated in all Paltalk groups!!! With Paltalk 4.0 (available from our beta link on our homepage), you can see up to three people in every group. Paltalk Plus subscribers can see people in full motion video. Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plus s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 4 DVD's @ 49 ¢ EACH! Paltalk: Credit report online. Always private, always secure, get yours FREE from ConsumerInfo.Com! 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(05:50 PM) marilyn_8: yes (05:50 PM) marilyn_8: yes oh good (05:50 PM) marilyn_8: I will take a look at those (05:51 PM) marilyn_8: nice guy (05:51 PM) marilyn_8: does he trade here with you all (05:51 PM) marilyn_8: cool (05:52 PM) marilyn_8: that is good (05:53 PM) marilyn_8: I saw the TrendVUE thingy on the intro what is that ? (05:53 PM) marilyn_8: oh not familar with that one (05:53 PM) Buffy_04364: ww.trendvue.com (05:53 PM) marilyn_8: lol (05:53 PM) marilyn_8: got it (05:54 PM) marilyn_8: ohhhhhhhhh (05:54 PM) marilyn_8: I dont pay for rooms (05:55 PM) marilyn_8: ohhhhhhhhhhh (05:55 PM) marilyn_8: room name ? 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(05:59 PM) marilyn_8: so I wrote back and told him a man that did too (05:59 PM) marilyn_8: he wrote and said pal is paid (05:59 PM) marilyn_8: I told him not all of the rooms are paid (05:59 PM) marilyn_8: absolutely (06:00 PM) marilyn_8: yes (06:00 PM) marilyn_8: is there a limit (06:00 PM) marilyn_8: to the amount that can be in a room do you know (06:00 PM) marilyn_8: wow thats great (06:00 PM) marilyn_8: well I am glad he is enjoying it (06:01 PM) marilyn_8: your room (06:01 PM) marilyn_8: a broker reccommended (06:01 PM) marilyn_8: holy cow (06:01 PM) marilyn_8: that is great (06:01 PM) marilyn_8: well I will peek in on you (06:01 PM) marilyn_8: right (06:02 PM) marilyn_8: I had a hommongous trigger problem and I sure know how to solve that one (06:02 PM) marilyn_8: I started trading like many before I knew enough (06:03 PM) marilyn_8: and got scared to death of pulling the trigger (06:03 PM) marilyn_8: yes it is (06:03 PM) marilyn_8: I must have a number in mind to pull the trigger (06:03 PM) marilyn_8: and then it is simple for me (06:04 PM) marilyn_8: no like when it is moving (06:04 PM) marilyn_8: and a target also (06:04 PM) marilyn_8: yes (06:04 PM) marilyn_8: exactly (06:04 PM) marilyn_8: well I didnt find the solution (06:04 PM) marilyn_8: I accidently traded one day (06:05 PM) marilyn_8: by thinking what makes me pull it (06:05 PM) marilyn_8: and I realized it is knowing at what number I want in (06:05 PM) marilyn_8: but the first trade to make me starte trading again was an accident (06:05 PM) marilyn_8: I had the mouse held a tad tight (06:05 PM) marilyn_8: lol (06:06 PM) marilyn_8: and I thought ohhhhhhhhh no I think I clicked (06:06 PM) marilyn_8: I looked over and saw an hour glass sure enough I was in a trade (06:06 PM) marilyn_8: and that white fear left when I saw my fill (06:06 PM) marilyn_8: lol (06:06 PM) marilyn_8: nope (06:07 PM) marilyn_8: it was so funny (06:07 PM) marilyn_8: it was a good trade (06:07 PM) marilyn_8: this time about a year (06:07 PM) marilyn_8: no margin call yet (06:07 PM) marilyn_8: es (06:07 PM) marilyn_8: no stocks (06:07 PM) marilyn_8: I have done options (06:08 PM) marilyn_8: day only (06:08 PM) marilyn_8: havent had that accident yet (06:08 PM) marilyn_8: lol (06:08 PM) marilyn_8: some of the world is always awake that is a tad scarey (06:08 PM) marilyn_8: I like to sleep Paltalk: Credit report online. 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(06:09 PM) marilyn_8: well I can see more up than down this week (06:10 PM) marilyn_8: that is good (06:10 PM) MilIsy uk: could i get some infomation about what it is you do, i have a new site opeing earning cash, always been intrested in market trading (06:10 PM) marilyn_8: are you more a bear or a bull or can you easily switch (06:11 PM) marilyn_8: thats great I need one monitor upside down for buys (06:12 PM) marilyn_8: I see the sells so much more easily (06:12 PM) MilIsy uk: what about the UK market (06:12 PM) MilIsy uk: FTSE (06:12 PM) MilIsy uk: 100 (06:12 PM) marilyn_8: and yet I like a strong economy some bear huh (06:12 PM) marilyn_8: that could be (06:12 PM) marilyn_8: even when I see it and I know it is going up I say nah cant be (06:13 PM) marilyn_8: is it nooooooooo (06:13 PM) marilyn_8: really must be gravity (06:13 PM) marilyn_8: Millsy there is so much movement in es and nq (06:13 PM) MilIsy uk: if anyones intrested the FTSE100 is at a bit of a low expected to drop more but it always makes a come back to aound the 6000 mark (06:14 PM) marilyn_8: daytraders (06:14 PM) MilIsy uk: hmm... 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(06:20 PM) marilyn_8: but I am not competitive I just wouldnt say this to any one but yes on the perfectionist (06:20 PM) marilyn_8: and I know how to spot one they call everyone else a perfectionist (06:21 PM) marilyn_8: yes (06:21 PM) marilyn_8: now not being competitive I would not be a pit trader (06:21 PM) MilIsy uk: just out of curiosity dose anyone own a web site, my one will launch soon i was wondering if there was anadvice (06:21 PM) marilyn_8: and just being a trader had obsticles (06:22 PM) MilIsy uk: u seem smart people (06:22 PM) MilIsy uk: :) (06:22 PM) marilyn_8: I want everyone to win (06:22 PM) marilyn_8: no mic today (06:22 PM) MilIsy uk: lol (06:22 PM) marilyn_8: have to go to wally world (06:22 PM) marilyn_8: great (06:23 PM) MilIsy uk: yeah (06:23 PM) MilIsy uk: bigger (06:23 PM) marilyn_8: where are you state wise Buffy (06:23 PM) MilIsy uk: :) (06:23 PM) marilyn_8: I am in sunny Florida (06:23 PM) marilyn_8: nope (06:24 PM) MilIsy uk: the site is mainly tranlastion into about 12 languages, i was thinking of anyadvice on advertising, (06:24 PM) MilIsy uk: links (06:24 PM) MilIsy uk: lol (06:24 PM) MilIsy uk: ive translated for large companys signed one up (06:24 PM) marilyn_8: very good Millsy (06:24 PM) MilIsy uk: well advertising the service (06:24 PM) MilIsy uk: ty (06:25 PM) MilIsy uk: takes a bow (06:25 PM) marilyn_8: lol (06:25 PM) Buffy_04364: :-) (06:25 PM) marilyn_8: I am sure it is a needed service (06:25 PM) MilIsy uk: lol, i hope so (06:26 PM) MilIsy uk: its fast to, lots of uk comapnys are trading with europe (06:26 PM) MilIsy uk: mainly on trading withing europe, the uk dose alot of foring currency trading (06:27 PM) marilyn_8: that was pitiful (06:27 PM) marilyn_8: telecommications is down here in this country (06:28 PM) marilyn_8: hmmmm like the movie Wall Street Paltalk: Get 4 DVDs for 49¢ each plush s&h. 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(06:42 PM) gf127: look at the daily and weekly (06:42 PM) gf127: it hit a high of 37.25 (06:43 PM) gf127: a level not seen since last April (06:43 PM) gf127: where the NASDAQ bottomed (06:43 PM) gf127: now we have the $NDX with a double bottom (06:43 PM) gf127: and the NASDAQ attemption to make a higher low (06:43 PM) gf127: from a bullish perspective and a contrarian perspective (06:44 PM) gf127: I went long QQQ, QCOM, and RFMD, maybe LSI tomorrow (06:44 PM) gf127: small position size, because of the freakin market (06:45 PM) gf127: but anyways, the VIX came down more than 4 points off the high and is way in overbought territory (06:45 PM) gf127: i'm looking for a move down to 30 from here, but that is just my opinion (06:46 PM) gf127: actually not opinion, technicals, but u know (06:46 PM) gf127: and VXN (06:46 PM) gf127: 2 points off the high (06:46 PM) gf127: and closed under the 200-dma (06:46 PM) gf127: i'm looking for a move to 61-62 at least (06:47 PM) gf127: but if this is bottom then what not, but I am expecting at least a short term bounce to the upside (06:47 PM) gf127: just educated guess (06:47 PM) gf127: market can also tank tomorrow, but u know (06:48 PM) luv-to-trade: ok (06:48 PM) gf127: is MONDAY volume supposed to be high or low? (06:48 PM) luv-to-trade: I didn't do much, was getting out of some spreads (06:48 PM) luv-to-trade: how did you do today? (06:48 PM) gf127: friday is supposed to be light most of time (06:48 PM) gf127: but Monday? (06:49 PM) gf127: pretty good volume on QQQ, but I think it is just some short covering (06:49 PM) luv-to-trade: so did you end the day even? (06:49 PM) gf127: yeah but the COMP can rally (06:49 PM) gf127: news doesn't really bug it (06:49 PM) gf127: market is weird Paltalk: Britney,Dido,Outkast,+ MORE! 12 CDs Free + s&h. CLICK HERE NOW FOR 12 FREE CD's! (06:50 PM) luv-to-trade: Good :)) (06:50 PM) luv-to-trade: I ended with a minor loss, but I wish it was a minor profit. (06:50 PM) luv-to-trade: lol Paltalk: Press the INVITE button NOW! Get your friends in on the fun! Invite them to join us on PalTalk today! (06:51 PM) luv-to-trade: how did retro do? (06:51 PM) gf127: I got to go guys (06:51 PM) gf127: later (06:53 PM) Buffy_04364: brb (06:58 PM) Buffy_04364: bk