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Buffy_04364: morning all
dave_b_quick: good morning
leont_2: g/m
ispecjh_1: morning all
dave_b_quick: g'morning
Buffy_04364: hope everyone had a good weekend and if ready to trade!
tomsurf: morning all :-)
dave_b_quick: no popups today, buffy?
Buffy_04364: nope
Buffy_04364: nice sunset picture
Buffy_04364: instead of ads up top
dave_b_quick: aaaahhh
Buffy_04364: worth the money already  :-)
Buffy_04364: closing those stupid popups - don't miss it a bit
Buffy_04364: didn't get the 3rd monitor up as the store was out and truckload came in last night so maybe tonight or tomorrow - Portland is an hour away
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dave_b_quick: all 3 monitors on one computer, buffy?
Buffy_04364: yep they will be - the one running ensign and esignal
dave_b_quick: you using 17", 21", or LCD's?
Buffy_04364: 19
Buffy_04364: KDS avitron
Buffy_04364: like them a lot
dave_b_quick: happy medium
Buffy_04364: found out yesterday that if you have staples build a computer for you that you spec out, the 17LCD is only 400 and a second one is 600  Since they sell for a grand it is two for the price of one
Buffy_04364: I didn't even know they would build a computer to specs
Buffy_04364: it would be a compaq
dave_b_quick: i'm waiting for the 18 LCD's to come down some more, they're still aroung $900, same viewing area as 21" CRT
Buffy_04364: ditto 
Buffy_04364: I have np getting these now though as anyone of the kids would like them
dave_b_quick: meanwhile 3 17" CRT's work pretty good.  Kids will inherit them when I upgrade to 18"LCD
Daniel X: pivot@1687 1rst res@1712
Daniel X: back in 15
larrybf: I never trade before 9:40. does anybody trade the open?
dave_b_quick: sometimes if it looks directional
dave_b_quick: if it looks sideways i wait
larrybf: like today?
dave_b_quick: yup
larrybf: ok
larrybf: the "floor guys" always stop me out at the open
cheetah55: short es
tamepiglet: I figured stuff would be down this morning. Guess it takes people starting to jump out of windows before people realize that economy is still going down.
dave_b_quick: LOL the windows don't open any more
tamepiglet: of course. lol
Buffy_04364: how old are your kids Dave - mine are all in their thirties
dave_b_quick: 25, 21, and 9
Buffy_04364: ahhh would love to have one nine again
dave_b_quick: my daughter just got married unnanounced on Thursday, so maybe grandkid on the way...
Buffy_04364: couple grandchildren few years older than that - one a teenage
Buffy_04364: others all under 3
cheetah55: buffy, I will send u my 11 and 8 year olds.  That averages out to nine or so.  :-)
Buffy_04364: LOL
Buffy_04364: boys or girls?
dave_b_quick: 25 boy, 21 girl, 9 boy
Buffy_04364: and yours cheetah?
Buffy_04364: I have 3 boys and two girls
Buffy_04364: boys are easier I think
Buffy_04364: grandchildren are 2 girls and 4 boys
cheetah55: 2 boys and 1 girls.  Got a 3 year old also.  My wild child.
cheetah55: out of short on es  at b/e
Buffy_04364: they keeps us young though at least me
dave_b_quick: taking a long time to bust this small opening range
Buffy_04364: :-(
Buffy_04364: doesn't seem that long ago mine were that age
tomsurf: dave- sure is
cheetah55: es still locked in tight range from Friday
dave_b_quick: locals took a long weekend
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Buffy_04364: this time maybe on NQ?
Buffy_04364: testing top
Daniel X: 1705 PnF break
Daniel X: notice it hit PP R1@1712
Buffy_04364: pyra on time line
gravestonedoggie: nq test of rriday hi
tomsurf: word from the pit is that none of the big locals even showed up today NQ, pit about 2/3 full
Buffy_04364: well, no volitility means we go into scalp mode for trades right?
Daniel X: ditto
John FF: 1706 triple top
tomsurf: yep
dave_b_quick: my scalp mode usually means "get scalped" mode, so i'll wait
Daniel X: lol
gravestonedoggie: nq unable to test globex hi
Daniel X: that high is pivot point res 1712
dave_b_quick: if anybody has figured out how to scalp the chop successfully, it's something i really would like to add to my tool bag
Daniel X: closest downside target besides the 1700 is 1687
Daniel X: doesn't mike do well at this?
dave_b_quick: he trades back and forth on the 75t, and if he loses 3 in a row goes back to wait mode
John FF: 85 to 89 big sup area
Daniel X: 1687 target
Daniel X: the average of the 2
Buffy_04364: ok has anyone ever gotten the following running ensign:  access violation at address -------- in module 'ensgin.exe'.
dave_b_quick: no, on win200?
dave_b_quick: i meant win2000
Buffy_04364: win2K
Buffy_04364: going to do a reboot
dave_b_quick: yup
dave_b_quick: only time i had stuff like that was when i installed some pre-win2k drivers
dave_b_quick: now i'm careful about only installing win2k compatible hardware & software
tamepiglet: See real soon whether this is more chop or finally some downside movement.
Daniel X: after 1687...1668
Daniel X: huge Pnf break here  o21687
Daniel X: sorry @ 1687
John FF: imo 1706 will be revisited
John FF: bmi feed lagging today
Buffy_04364: going to let ensign start data manager and hope that helps
tamepiglet: I am real close to being closed out here.
Buffy_04364: I haven't done anything to that computer all weekend
cctraderx: closed out piglet?
cheetah55: buffy, pc = personal confuser
cctraderx: lol
Buffy_04364: LOL
rs_5: lol c
tamepiglet: closed out ES 1208. +2.25.
cctraderx: good
Buffy_04364: anyone looking at 3m?  if so was it 3 long bars down?
tamepiglet: Now watch the thing clunk.
dave_b_quick: yes, buffy
Buffy_04364: or do I need to go back and fill in data
Buffy_04364: great
Buffy_04364: thanks dave
dave_b_quick: 3 down and 1 inside
cheetah55: nice tame
tamepiglet: I'm surpirised 'clunk' is not a forbidden word.
tamepiglet: Never hurts to have the first trade go with you.
cheetah55: no rally attempt here on es.  Looks lower
Daniel X: out 88
tamepiglet: I've had a really hard time learning to trade these futures.
cheetah55: Teachtrade says if not up to 1210 soon, look for below 1200
cheetah55: soon = 10 mins
tamepiglet: And I still hate to put that that lowered buy limit stop (on a sell), but I guess you HAVE to do it.
cheetah55: tame, u mean a trailing stop.
tamepiglet: Yea, I don't even know the right words to use yet.  :-)
cheetah55: tame, u did good to hold the short.  I sold at 12.50 and got out when it held up there
cheetah55: es need a dip again to see if buyers await.
dave_b_quick: tame, you shouldn't use STOP LIMIT on a stop loss, just plain STOP
tamepiglet: I wanted to go in at 12.50 buy by the3 time I entered my order it was 10.15. Gotta find a faster way to enter stuff.
tamepiglet: OK. I'll try that next time out.
tamepiglet: We seem to be stuck here at 1207.50 on the ES.
dave_b_quick: the reason is that if the market makes a sudden large move against your position, it could blow past your stop limit order and not get filled and you would then be in a position with no stop loss
cheetah55: good point dave
tamepiglet: As usual, I get everything ssa backwards.
gravestonedoggie: hehe
Buffy_04364: 1682.79support on pyra
tamepiglet: See how stupid censorship is??
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pb007_1: hi
pb007_1: hello
pb007_1: hello
dave_b_quick: hi, hello
tamepiglet: Last week I write the romanized text for preganat in Japanese and the system says if I do it again I'll automatically be kicked off. but reverse another word and nothing happens. 'go figure..
tamepiglet: Wow. Back up to 1209 on the ES. Glad I 'chickened' out!
tamepiglet: I knew someone called Pb once. What a great girl. Wonder whatever happened to her...
Daniel X: PnF flawless this morn
Buffy_04364: on what TF daniel?  I know I have asked you before sorry
Daniel X: 5 min Buffy
Buffy_04364: tks
tamepiglet: This morning trading is much more volatile. Did anyone have a chance to enter sell limit stop on ES when it was up to 1209?
Buffy_04364: does anyone know how to get the toolbars to show on a big chart?  I looked for setting but must of missed it
tamepiglet: I couldn't make out the 1 minute bars to take advantage of that uptick on the ES.
tomsurf: Buffy, how about right click?
cheetah55: long es
cctraderx: just a question, why would you sell 1209 tame?
cheetah55: out
Buffy_04364: no no pencil there to draw lines  :-(
dave_b_quick: buffy, i think if you want the tool bars on a full screen chart in ensign you can't use <ctrl>F full screen mode, you have to double click the blue chart header to get the big chart instead
tamepiglet: The short short trend is down, after an opening pop. Don't you go short on every upthrust in a downtrend???
Buffy_04364: k
Buffy_04364: bingo!  tks so much Dave
gravestonedoggie: seems reasonable tamed
Indycator: trendline broken on ES 15M
cctraderx: y, if that was the timeframe you were working
cctraderx: or chart / ticks
larrybf: is there a way to print the daily "Paltalk"
tamepiglet: Actually it wouldn' have been 1209. But the entry point would have been lower but it would have been there. Too early to see if this keeps going down.
cctraderx: I'm on 5m and would have missed that
dave_b_quick: larry, file/save
larrybf: thanks
tamepiglet: Looks like we're chopping again around 1207.50.
dave_b_quick: or file/print (but i haven't tried that)
dave_b_quick: the transcript of Friday's chat is posted at dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com
cctraderx: 1208 is a pivot point on es
cctraderx: great thanks dave
tamepiglet: Let me see if I can get this computer to blow up buy opening another program.  (that's not funny)
Buffy_04364: I seem ok after the reboot for now anyway
larrybf: dave- file/print. just did it. thanks again
dave_b_quick: k
Buffy_04364: glad to see you posting them on your website though Dave  great itdea for us that miss a day
dave_b_quick: i was just experimenting buffy, but if you find it useful i'll try and keep it up
Buffy_04364: I would think it would be but no problem if you can't as I know you have much to do
cheetah55: Any of u EW users use alerts?
Buffy_04364: hitting another tme lne
Buffy_04364: in pyra
dave_b_quick: i've fooled with the EW alerts some
cheetah55: CAn u get the alerts to make some other sound besides the "beep".
cheetah55: I have tried, but can't get it to play .wav files
dave_b_quick: ya, they can play a .WAV file of yr choice
John FF: 92 was 1st hr fib retracement
cheetah55: How do u get them to play.  I click on the .wav box and select a wav file, but it still just does the beep.
John FF: 50% retracement
dave_b_quick: maybe it's set on silent?
cheetah55: No, I select .wav
dave_b_quick: hmm, dono.  it worked here
tomsurf: cheetah- have to select a specific .wav file...if you don't have one then slelect "beep"
dave_b_quick: i just recorded the message on Windows sound recorder
John FF: sox index at critical sup
dave_b_quick: cheetah, there's a checkbox for "enable" too
cheetah55: Yes, I check that also.
cheetah55: Let me look at it again.
tamepiglet: Chance to see here if we break ES 1206 or ir we're in a mini-uptrend.
tamepiglet: I had thought the trend was DOWN.
Buffy_04364: 3minute is is a huge triangle and testing the bottom now
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tomsurf: 5min ES and NQ had 1 croos set ups to the downside
Buffy_04364: needless to say going down now - was is next support last I have written down in 1687
tamepiglet: So if I was really good I would have been in at Es 1209 short and made a quick 5 points here. But I'm not good....yet.
Buffy_04364: neither am I tame - only on focused days would I get that and monday usually isn't one
Daniel X: That 1668 target from this morn looks easy now
Daniel X: pivot point
tamepiglet: Call it what you will but if you follow T's rules you'd a been in on that one.
Daniel X: 1rst support
Buffy_04364: tks
tomsurf: Buffy- was just noteing that I must still be in sleep mode, lol
Buffy_04364: I have some support showing at 1673-1674 area
Buffy_04364: I think Mondays is the hardest day and usually only take obvious trades
tamepiglet: And soon your trailing stop would close you out.
dave_b_quick: good advice, buffy, especially Summer monday
tamepiglet: Unless it clunks here.
Buffy_04364: well, going back over trades said Monday was the worst day and needed to be "revised"  :-)
dave_b_quick: long weekend every week would be nice anyway...
Buffy_04364: giggle yep it would
tamepiglet: Now we're back in a mini-rally, and the question becomes can we start setting sell limit stops???
tamepiglet: 1204.25 I think.
dave_b_quick: i read somewhere, i think in a book on Psychology of Trading, that most traders have trouble on monday because they get overconfident over the weekend
tamepiglet: You give somebody two days off and all of a suddenthey become confident!  lol
dave_b_quick: ya, they haven't had a losing trade in 3 days
dave_b_quick: to keep them humble
Buffy_04364: LOL
tamepiglet: I'm out but the sell stop just got triggered. See if it does anything. (besides lose money) This looks choppy here.
Buffy_04364: I don't know about that, I don't feel overconfident after going over trades and seeing all I did wrong.  Somehow all the good ones just done' offset them in my mind
cctraderx: lol - dave
tamepiglet: out -1 i guess.
Buffy_04364: testing bottomof triangle right now
tamepiglet: darn it, now it clunks, at least momentarily.
cctraderx: tame, what time frame are you using?
Buffy_04364: pyra next support is at 1666 area  hmmm that sounds familiar from last week
tamepiglet: 1 minute
cctraderx: ok
tamepiglet: Looks like we're gonna retest 1207 to find out which way this thing is going to go.
Buffy_04364: would someone be in the ensign room right now?
tamepiglet: sell stop limit in at 1205
Buffy_04364: I can't get a espl to come up anymore
Buffy_04364: be back soom
tamepiglet: coming up on 6th 1 minute candle.
cctraderx: morning
tomsurf: good morning!
tamepiglet: Looks like we tested 1207 on the ES. Now WHAT will it do???
tamepiglet: sell stop expired, by the way.
tamepiglet: Will it rally here???
tamepiglet: I've lost my feed for what the other indexes and stocks are doing.
tamepiglet: See if we make a double top here at 1207 before falling off.
tamepiglet: Since 1045 the trend (short) has been up.
tamepiglet: double ES top at 1207. See if it breaks higher.
tamepiglet: Lets See how strong the resistence here is at 1207.50.
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Buffy_04364: ahh you meant this room
Buffy_04364: hi Howard
tamepiglet: Did everybody go somewhere???
Buffy_04364: I went looking for Howard to solve my problems
Buffy_04364: did you refresh the group list
Buffy_04364: ok got you
dave_b_quick: the trendvue room is open now under password "ispec"
Buffy_04364: least disruptive for them anyway
tamepiglet: T has probably forgot to reset the password.
Buffy_04364: ok mike not working
dave_b_quick: they just opened it in the last 10 minutes
Buffy_04364: I run espl for 4 indicators
Buffy_04364: while it works on all charts but the 3m
Buffy_04364: then only one of the two I use works
Buffy_04364: IF comes up blank
Buffy_04364: I did have an ensign.exe error today
cctraderx: dave, when U go to the other room are you on another computer
dave_b_quick: yes
Buffy_04364: I have been in there twice already with ispec
dave_b_quick: and another handle
cctraderx: I C
dave_b_quick: i'm in there now
Buffy_04364: my mike isn't even giving me a mic
Buffy_04364: ick
larrybf: trendvue room:"group does not exist'
dave_b_quick: yes, it has, because that's the only password i have
cctraderx: need to go up and then click back,
Buffy_04364: hmmm it works for me that is all I can say - stupid computers
dave_b_quick: hit "refresh" in the group list screen
cctraderx: once she resets the password you need to refresh
tamepiglet: Let me go check.
cctraderx: y
tomsurf: Buffy, haerd ya
cctraderx: we hear ya
Buffy_04364: great
tamepiglet: the room does not exist!!!
dave_b_quick: she closes the 90 minutes group, so after the switch it doesn't exist and is replaced by the after 11 group of the same name
tamepiglet: Could T make it any more complicated?!
dave_b_quick: so if you haven't refreshed the group list since before the switch, you're trying to open the closed group
tamepiglet: OH. I see.
Buffy_04364: I don't think so howard  - it is the same one I sent you that you fixed for me after one of your upgrades
dave_b_quick: ya, it would be better if she had a separate room, but the commercial rooms cost $
dave_b_quick: buffy, sometimes i get the blank study windows with that script, and i just switch the chart to a different TF and back, and it fills in the studies
Buffy_04364: if is not working
Buffy_04364: 52
cctraderx: always welcome
dave_b_quick: Howard, have you decided the topic for this week's Wednesday Ensigntraining
tomsurf: Howard, you're always welcome :-)
cctraderx: please do howard, it cant do anything but help us
Buffy_04364: you are more than welcome to come back here and post a couple of them
Buffy_04364: sounds like a plan
Buffy_04364: dave has made it easy to post charts
Buffy_04364: ok thanks again
Buffy_04364: ok now maybe think about trading after a coffee  :-)  what a day!
tomsurf: NQ- word is that the pit is empty
tamepiglet: nothing going on in trendvue.
cctraderx: still empty, interesting
dave_b_quick: so empty pit means choppy trading?
tamepiglet: Went long ES at 1208.50. out early + 1/4.
tomsurf: dave- yes
dave_b_quick: i guess the chart says the same thing
tamepiglet: Now we have to be asking ourselves, was this a stealth bull run up here?
tomsurf: no intitutional, dealer trading so it's just the few locals that are there trading between themselves, which makes for choppy trade
tamepiglet: Hey, somebody help, I don't have all the answers. lol
dave_b_quick: looks like even Polo took the day off
tomsurf: ya was wondering where Polo was.
dave_b_quick: most of the volume today was just cheetah and piglet
tomsurf: LOL
cctraderx: lol
Buffy_04364: LOL
Buffy_04364: hey tom if we want to get focused we need to get busy - I was in a trade and moving stops up and looking for howard in yahoo and other rooms - definitely feel more focused now
Buffy_04364: but if choppy day we shouldn't trade for sure
tamepiglet: es sell limit stop in at 1207.50.
Buffy_04364: only made one pt on that trade but better than nothing
tomsurf: Off topic- quick surf check. There is a website that has video cameras all over the US and a few other countries.....I can see how it's breaking locally real time w/out having to drive a foot, lol
tamepiglet: sell cancelled.
dave_b_quick: hahaha, surf's pretty mushy here today 
Buffy_04364: I grew up on the ocean and when I miss it a lot go visit those cams  :-)
tamepiglet: Too choppy right now. I'm taking my 2.50 ES point to lunch. Back this afternoon maybe.
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Buffy_04364: ok tame
Buffy_04364: we understand
tomsurf: mushy here too, darn, might have been a good day to go.
Buffy_04364: most probably we all should
dave_b_quick: tom, i meant these NQ waves aren't worth paddling out on
tamepiglet: Try an ocean sounds CD buffy. Always reminds me of the Lani Kai at fort myers beach. Got my reservations in for south beach this february and march. Yes!
tomsurf: word from the pit is that the locals that are still there have "long faces" due to no interest on buy or sell side.
dave_b_quick: they're wishing they had stayed home with the kids
tamepiglet: Until people start jumping out of windows, nothing will happen. lol
tomsurf: dave- LOL, had the Pismo pier cam going so you know where my mind was ;-)
dave_b_quick: yr makin me nostalgic, tom
tamepiglet: what's the name? lopac? mopac?
tomsurf: http://www.surfline.com/cams/pismo.html
tamepiglet: mind is like a steel trap. always closed shut.
Daniel X: anyone taking trades?
Buffy_04364: ye sit is
Buffy_04364: just went long daniel
Daniel X: oh ok
tamepiglet: short term uptrend on ES still intact.
tamepiglet: Is pismo at morro bay?
tomsurf: tame- no Pismo is south of Morro bay about 10- 15 miles
electra_23: near santa cruz right
tamepiglet: I remember seeing it somewhere so my lompoc guess was a little south?
tomsurf: no, about 100 miles or so south of Santa Cruz
tamepiglet: santa cruz is way up the coast.??
tamepiglet: crud that's north of monterey.
tomsurf: NQ looking to test HOD
dave_b_quick: ya
Indycator: no ,  we can't hear you
tomsurf: hammer time
Indycator: hammer anyone?
Indycator: thank u
tamepiglet: oh I see; right around Arroyo Grande
Buffy_04364: got 3pts out of it
tamepiglet: out of what buffy?
Daniel X: good
Buffy_04364: that long trae
Buffy_04364: nq
tamepiglet: ES or NQ
dave_b_quick: good buffy, 1:1 risk/reward?
tamepiglet: OK
Daniel X: llloooonnnnggggg
Buffy_04364: went long at 1696.50
tomsurf: Tame, yes AG is inland and Pismo on the ocean
Buffy_04364: should of been earlier
tamepiglet: is it time for the wheels to come off the ES here?
tamepiglet: I'll be going to vegas next week with a side trip to monterey.
tamepiglet: Cambria has a nice feel to it.
tamepiglet: buffy, you are over modulating a little bit--clipping.
dave_b_quick: Buffy, try turning yr mic down a little or backing away from the mic
tamepiglet: that's better buffy.
tamepiglet: Gonna make good on my threat to break for lunch. See ya all later.
tomsurf: SOX has been pushing up
Daniel X: lets see Nq take out 12
dave_b_quick: good
Daniel X: if
tamepiglet: yea that's better. clipping penalty, 15 yards.  lol
Buffy_04364: sorry guys
Buffy_04364: LOL
Buffy_04364: didn't close above it closed on it
dave_b_quick: no prob buffy, just wanna make sure we hear every word
dave_b_quick: yes, please
dave_b_quick: 2B potential
Buffy_04364: ye sit is Dave
dave_b_quick: 5m 2b was triggered with no followthrough, 9m not triggered
Buffy_04364: It is there on the 3M I just posted also for all to see
Buffy_04364: if you agree that is what is there to see LOL
Indycator: buffy,  when you have time, could you post your degree setting and what you have checked under 'show' in properties for pyra?
Buffy_04364: done indy
Buffy_04364: sent a snapshot of it 
Buffy_04364: or did you want me to type it here
Buffy_04364: ?
Buffy_04364: or am I just confused LOL
Buffy_04364: be right back going to feed the cats
Indycator: buffy,  post is fine if it shows the degree setting.  Do you use a constant degree setting?   
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Indycator: buffy,  post answered my question....thanks
Buffy_04364: bk
Buffy_04364: not always indy - 11.25 or 5.?? usually works well on the shorter tf
Indycator: what about longer TF, like 45M or daily?
Buffy_04364: sorry haven't played with it there - just adjust until the channel follows a trendline you would normally draw
Buffy_04364: is what I go by
Indycator: howard, how about ES  45M  chart
Buffy_04364: talk about personal support!  thanks howard from all of us
Indycator: ditto
Buffy_04364: would one of you please post a chart at www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com
Buffy_04364: dave you mind if I give howard the password?
Buffy_04364: or you im him
Buffy_04364: indy - can you post a chart?
Indycator: no, don't have snagit
Buffy_04364: k
tomsurf: Howard is da man...just absolutely amazing customer service.
Indycator: ok, that is what I used too, the 24th.  
Indycator: so that matches with today's pivot point of 1208 for the ES
Buffy_04364: amazing isn't it indy
Indycator: thank you howard for being here.
Indycator: yes it is buffy...now we watch to see which way it wants to go....barring a fakeout
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dave_b_quick: sorry i didn't see your question buffy, i was on a couple of phone calls
Buffy_04364: no problem dave
dave_b_quick: did Howard get what he needed?
Buffy_04364: -30
dave_b_quick: 2001-07-30
Buffy_04364: need the whole address howard?
ensignsoft: no
Buffy_04364: k
ensignsoft: do I need http://   ahead of the www?
dave_b_quick: /home/httpd/html/charts/2001-07-30 is the whole path
whoknows_11: anyone know how to get to trendVUE.com **Trader' Chat ?
Buffy_04364: I don't have it
Buffy_04364: welcome john
Indycator: hi John
Buffy_04364: just www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com
dave_b_quick: right
dave_b_quick: hi john
john_83402: thanks
Buffy_04364: ask away john if you have a ?
Buffy_04364: you can talk or type
Buffy_04364: names are added on left as you come in
Buffy_04364: if you use the mike your name goes to top
Buffy_04364: welcome don
Buffy_04364: you are perfect today Howard
Buffy_04364: or adjust your volume on your speakers
Indycator: howard's volume is perfect here
Buffy_04364: and you can raise your hand to talk also
cctraderx: sounds good here
Buffy_04364: no just demostrating
Buffy_04364: would work in class environment though
Buffy_04364: loud
dave_b_quick: too loud now
cctraderx: loud
Indycator: real loud
Buffy_04364: :-)
Buffy_04364: can go lower
cctraderx: little better
dave_b_quick: down another notch
Indycator: lower
Buffy_04364: good
dave_b_quick: good
Indycator: perfect
cctraderx: ok here
dave_b_quick: great
Buffy_04364: you can also save this room to file - dave posts it on his website - and copy stuff too
dave_b_quick: varies for different computers
Buffy_04364: dave tested that with last fridays chat here
Buffy_04364: susre does vary dave
Buffy_04364: that is the best thing about moving the class to here - would not have to record or type notes
Buffy_04364: dave set this up
Buffy_04364: for when T had us locked out
Buffy_04364: if we weren't in class
Buffy_04364: public room
Indycator: we all send dave $5 a week
Buffy_04364: LOL
dave_b_quick: thanks for the thot indy
cctraderx: lol
tomsurf: Indy- lol
Indycator: e-bucks
dave_b_quick: it's the thot that counts
Indycator: did you receive my e-bucks yet, dave?
Indycator: well, you da man too
dave_b_quick: good will credits
Buffy_04364: yes because people need to download the software and some have problems with hearing
Indycator: like 80% of us are ensign users
Buffy_04364: we do futures and no stocks
Buffy_04364: that is the biggest different
Buffy_04364: yes we are
Buffy_04364: always look at the charts posted in her room
Buffy_04364: :-)
Indycator: red carpet is always out for you howard
Buffy_04364: and drh and john
Buffy_04364: is web checked under output
boomer_95: free trial with ensign>
boomer_95: ?
dave_b_quick: da=new jersey for the
cheetah55: Hi Howard, I have set up a study in ESPL...How do I get that study to beep at me when the arguments come back true?  Right now it will put a bullet on the chart. Is it the procedure "beep"?
ensignsoft: go to   www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com
ensignsoft: yes, beep would work 
dave_b_quick: besides the domain names for charts.com and thecharts.com were taken
Buffy_04364: dave does he need to specify the port?
ensignsoft: 1 moment, let me check before I speek
ensignsoft: speak
ispe_bc: Howard I'm not an ensign user at present, but am enjoying your presence here. And again big thanks to Dave for getting this site together.
Indycator: cheetah,  I would like to put a bullet in a chart once in awhile   :)
Buffy_04364: LOL indy
dave_b_quick: i just posted a screenshot of my SnagIt web setup
ensignsoft: yes, use Beep;
cheetah55: indy, lol
Buffy_04364: ok Dave learning time how did you get snagit to snag itself?
Buffy_04364: I tried and got no where
dave_b_quick: snagit will snag anything, buffy, don't get too close
Buffy_04364: lol
dave_b_quick: i use <ctrl><shift>p while the screen i wanna snag is showing
Buffy_04364: you are the hot key king for sure!
dave_b_quick: i'm mouse-challenged
ensignsoft: I keep getting error "Unable to set remote directory"
tomsurf: lol
dave_b_quick: i was sad when windows replaced DOS
dave_b_quick: howard, must be a typo in the directory path somewhere
Indycator: you got that right buffy...he is is da king of hot keys
Buffy_04364: so you must have snag it set to capture window and not area
cheetah55: howard, ok thanks.  Will try beep.  I was getting an error using an if-then statement with the then being to paint a bar and then to beep.  
dave_b_quick: snagit can't create remote directories, only post to an existing directory
Buffy_04364: that is a new on me - looking
cheetah55: must need to make it a compund statement
Buffy_04364: sorry can't find anything on font changing
Buffy_04364: do not miss those ads a bit!  :-)
cctraderx: current one is Dr.Scholls perfomance program
cctraderx: just so that you don't miss out
Buffy_04364: LOL
Buffy_04364: the little man running around the box is what finally said they had to go
cctraderx: oh, sorry, thought you said u miss those ads
Buffy_04364: giggle
john_83402: how do I shut off these ads
Indycator: buffy,  what replaces the ads....blank space?
Indycator: pay $9.95
cctraderx: pay them $9.95
cctraderx: for a year of ad free service
Indycator: and don't forget to send dave b quick his $5 too
john_83402: ok
cctraderx: lol
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Buffy_04364: yahoo Howard
dave_b_quick: very nice, howard
Buffy_04364: is that cycles on the bottom Howard
Buffy_04364: notice they line up with pyra time line
Indycator: thanks for posting the ES chart howard,  I like the cycles on the bottom
Buffy_04364: sounds like I need to update
Daniel X: gosh...take out 1708 already or let the selling commence.
ensignsoft: on the phone
Buffy_04364: I lost audio when looking for Howard in Yahoo room this morning
ensignsoft: I missed what was said just now, by being on the phone
ensignsoft: clue me in on what John said
Indycator: he said he could hear you while elsewhere on the net
dave_b_quick: ya, i've lost paltalk audio after visiting the Yahoo chat sometimes too, and had to restart paltalk
dave_b_quick: paltalk has to have focus to talk, but not to lilsten
Buffy_04364: yes
Buffy_04364: you could also post the classes to your website
dave_b_quick: sometimes i'm able to hear the yahoo and paltalk audio at the same time on the same computer, but it's pretty cornfusing
dave_b_quick: with only one volume control for the 2
Buffy_04364: the trick is those settings we had you do first time here
Indycator: no charge for free rooms
dave_b_quick: the free paltalk rooms are limited to 75 participants with no password, i think, or 10 with a password
Buffy_04364: I did get rid of banners and you get a newsletter also
dave_b_quick: you can set up a free room to be always visible
dave_b_quick: i just didn't check that box
DonTrader: Is the $10 to remove pop-ups only, pop-ups & banners or just banners.  
dave_b_quick: we've only booted a couple of visitors today
Buffy_04364: I have only had one pop up today and that was when I cam back from yahoo
Buffy_04364: banners gone and have picture of sunset
dave_b_quick: that was probably a yahoo popup
Buffy_04364: you are right Dave could of been
Buffy_04364: nope
tomsurf: room always the same name ;-)
dave_b_quick: no, the room is only set up once no matter who opens it
dave_b_quick: you have to have me on your pal list to be able to open the room and you have to have a code #
dave_b_quick: right
dave_b_quick: i think that whoever has the admin code could change the welcome message if they wanted
Buffy_04364: the other thing howard is you never get a you are not a member here
Buffy_04364: if paltalk up you can get in and it isn't down often
Buffy_04364: seems like I always had problems getting into T's yahoo rooms
dave_b_quick: ya, the whole login process is kinda confusint in yahoo
Buffy_04364: T used to have to send me a private invite
Buffy_04364: very frustating for both of us
Buffy_04364: since you joined I believe
Buffy_04364: right Dave
dave_b_quick: saves text sinced you yoined the room as .txt file
Buffy_04364: yep post to your website
dave_b_quick: you can see what last friday's chat looks like on dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com
Buffy_04364: dave did it
Buffy_04364: for last friday
dave_b_quick: yes, howard
dave_b_quick: the link is "chat transcripts" from dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart homepage
ensignsoft: i am away, 1 moment, busy
cheetah55: Anyone here been trading the indices maore than a couuple years.  This action of late reminds me of August a couple years ago.  Small range with no volatility for the entire month.  Real nightmare from what I recall.
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cheetah55: Might have been 3 or 4 years ago actually.
Buffy_04364: no January was my beginning
dave_b_quick: cheetah, there must be a way to trade that stuff, i just haven't found it
Buffy_04364: it would have to be off of PA and in a large enough TF - and you would have to be patient - which I am not
cheetah55: Thre is...but the lows and sell the highs...I am not kidding.  But we all are conditioned to look for trends, so it is very diffcult.
cheetah55: buy the lows and sell the highs....sheesh
Buffy_04364: even 3LB is chop chop today
Buffy_04364: very unusual
ensignsoft: john, is there good coorelation on LC today and are you moved out to october now
cheetah55: For instance, right now we are obviuosly range bound....has anyone been selling or buying "stop raids"?  That is the best way to play this.  You are only wrong once, and then you have the trend !  Sound easy and sometimes is.  But not always.
john_83402: moved out to Oct - good correlation on pattern but close=72.225
dave_b_quick: ok, so just have to fade myself then, cheetah
Buffy_04364: the range is awfully tight cheetah
Daniel X: ZZZZZzzzz...sitting on the platform waiting for the 2:20 train...trying to sta awa..ZZZzzzzzzz
Buffy_04364: giggle dave
ensignsoft: so you have adjusted vertically to match overlay better?
Indycator: john, 83042....you trading cattle with pyra?
john_83402: yes
Indycator: doing okay?
Indycator: daily or intraday charts?
john_83402: it is a good tool for daily
Buffy_04364: another test of 1690 coming up
Buffy_04364: ?
Daniel X: PnF3 box 
Indycator: thanks john
cctraderx: holding so far
cheetah55: ES trading in a 2.5 range from 1:30 to 2:00.  That is unheard of.  Get the no-doze ready until Labor Day.
tomsurf: Fridays range was small but today is even inside that so far except for the NQ which just peeked above the high.
ensignsoft: just posted ensign-5 chart of NQ U1 4-min with Pyrapoint tool
Daniel X: 1687 Pivot
Daniel X: has to hold
john_83402: Indy - put PP on LC1Q on 6/1 and look at End of Square day - then move PP to 6/15 and look at End of Square again - both had big moves that were exactly on schedule and expected
PoloEQ: Thanks daniel
PoloEQ: hi everyone
Buffy_04364: Hi polo missed you
cctraderx: I got 1690, so i'm in the ball park
cctraderx: hi POLO
tomsurf: Polo- we were wondering about you ;-)
Buffy_04364: thought you took the day off
PoloEQ: aah...thanks buffy
cctraderx: we thought that you knew that the market was so boring and took off without telling us
tomsurf: can't believe you'd not be here to suffer w/us, lol
cctraderx: hehehe
PoloEQ: no going to be in out this week alot to take care of!
Indycator: thanks John,  will take a look at my cattle chart
Buffy_04364: nice chart Howard
tomsurf: yes, Howard...saving your charts to study later. very clean.
cheetah55: Es holding at 1208.  Thing of short for move down to 1207.50 !!
cheetah55: thinking
Daniel X: 1687 Pivot has got to hold...actually i don't care what it does as long as it does something.
Buffy_04364: lol me either Daniel
tomsurf: Daniel- lol
Daniel X: that might of been the 2:20 bottom
ensignsoft: Indy, both pyrapoint charts on LC1Q daily have just been posted by me to www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com  as ensign-06 and 07
Buffy_04364: why did you reset pyra to the 15th?
Daniel X: here's the little pre 2:20 sellof
Buffy_04364: oh oik
PoloEQ: looking for the 2:20 pop daniel do you think it can happen today
Daniel X: yes i do just not as many points as usual
PoloEQ: daniel where's your s1
Daniel X: it was 1687
PoloEQ: no that was pivot
Daniel X: 1668 sorry
PoloEQ: thanks
Daniel X: kewl
Buffy_04364: is there any potential significance to where the diagonals cross?
PoloEQ: going for a test of lows here maybe!
Daniel X: Polo did u fix the Data  problem yet?
cheetah55: Howard, if I do an ESPL study where a bar is to be painted a certain color based on certain criteria, does the who assigment have to be 41-4X ?
PoloEQ: yes
Daniel X: polo notice how stochs are near bottm just before the 2:20
john_83402: nice charts - good text on #6 & #7
PoloEQ: yes
ensignsoft: yes, cheetah,
PoloEQ: buying here
ensignsoft: thx john,
ensignsoft: easy to post charts like that as examples for all to see
john_83402: send copy to George
Buffy_04364: that makes sense
Daniel X: Polo watch 1680 as PnF break down
cctraderx: what is eos?
cctraderx: ok
PoloEQ: ok
Buffy_04364: ok thanks for your insight
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PoloEQ: long @1682.50
cctraderx: thanks howard
Daniel X: good Polo
PoloEQ: ok
cctraderx: lol
Buffy_04364: LOL
Daniel X: her it comes
Indycator: that is a new concept......audio ads
tomsurf: :-)
dave_b_quick: howard, you are unusual.  Most programmers i've known can't talk.
Buffy_04364: true Dave.
Buffy_04364: and most explain things assuming you know this and that but Howard explains at our level
tomsurf: dave- and Howard relates to people well too :-)
ispec_cj: Hi all  :)
Indycator: hey cj
PoloEQ: daniel you think this ones a holder!
Buffy_04364: someday hope to know 1/2 or even a 1/4 or what Howard knows in ensign
Buffy_04364: hi cj
cctraderx: hey cj!!
tomsurf: cj- ;-)
Daniel X: 20 mins to go POLO
Buffy_04364: stop at 82.50 in case it isn't
PoloEQ: ok
ispec_cj: how is everyone doing? 
Indycator: whatsa happening in beantown?
ispec_cj: Hi Howard, thanks for the help the other day  :)
Buffy_04364: I am out
Buffy_04364: too early maybe
ispec_cj: beantown! LOL
Buffy_04364: ?
ensignsoft: just poste ES U1.  4 - min with Pyrapoint 
Daniel X: it will come 
Indycator: 2b maybe?
PoloEQ: ok pivot @ 1687 is the barrier!
Daniel X: we're frozen alot of players on this one
Daniel X: or staying away from shorting
ensignsoft: pyrapoint principle is to stay in the channel, long or short, until you  have a close Above a downward red channel top or a close Below an upward green channel bottom.
Daniel X: trying to time the lows
ensignsoft: currently on NQ U1 4-min chart the channel is downward and 
cheetah55: dave, regarding your prior question about how to play range bound markets.....
dave_b_quick: Yes?
ensignsoft: top channel line, it that is used as a stop is now descended to around 1687.80
cheetah55: I think being aware of HORIZONTAL  support/resistance is critical, since ma's and sloping trendlines work better in trends.
Buffy_04364: stops have to be mental howard as it can go out of channel but can't close right
ensignsoft: sorry, I need to leave you all, but I have some coding  to do that needs my undivided attention to figure it out.   See you later, possibly later today.  Bye.
Buffy_04364: sorry cheetah don't agree with that TL work in all
Buffy_04364: bye howard and thanks
Buffy_04364: so much for everything today
PoloEQ: are we going to get through this 87 area!
netbiz_2: hi to the room from germany
dave_b_quick: Hi, netbiz.  You a trader?
Daniel X: hope so
Daniel X: shake out  weak hands here
netbiz_2: dave_b_quick: what kinde of trader?
PoloEQ: trying to take the lows here!
netbiz_2: <- one-person-business
dave_b_quick: we trade stock index futures here
dave_b_quick: most of us are solo businesses, but not looking for MLM offerings
Buffy_04364: Howard was right on his quick observation on nq
Buffy_04364: in the down channel
netbiz_2: sorry, have not a lot of experience. started 3 months ago and i still a learner of that stuff
netbiz_2: i do not offer any mlm-stuff
dave_b_quick: good.  You're welcome to hang out if you're interested in index trading
netbiz_2: thnx
Buffy_04364: long at 76
dave_b_quick: buffy-b-quick
netbiz_2: i will go. if you donīt mind i will enjoy this room more often the next days. ok?
Buffy_04364: LOL
dave_b_quick: sure
Buffy_04364: had a buy stop in Dave
dave_b_quick: come back again
netbiz_2: thnx and bye to all
Buffy_04364: It was nice to have Howard in here for a while
Buffy_04364: So glad I switched from Qcharts
tomsurf: Buffy- sure was
dave_b_quick: ya, don't have to chase him to yahoo to ask the questions
ispec_cj: Buffy, was Howard teaching? is he going to hang out here?
Buffy_04364: It amazes me how he jumps on anything to improve his software
dave_b_quick: that's nice service, Ensign comes to us...
Buffy_04364: Howard was showing and willing to answer our ?'s
dave_b_quick: cj, he's thinking about switching his help chat to paltalk
Buffy_04364: I went looking for him  for my question
Buffy_04364: we couldn't meet in T's room so we met here
tomsurf: dave- that's what I call room service.
dave_b_quick: LOL
Buffy_04364: LOL tom
Buffy_04364: and that was a long time ago
ispec_cj: dave_b_quick, your room is getting up there :)
Buffy_04364: glad he got his charts to post
dave_b_quick: hahaha no advertising either
Buffy_04364: My trading friends were all away this weekend so didn't discuss charts with anyone
Buffy_04364: :-(
cctraderx: just the $5 fee
Buffy_04364: stop at 75.50
Buffy_04364: target 83 on this move up?
ispec_cj: dave, you can start charging us soon now that vip's hanging out here! :)
dave_b_quick: ya, "trade with CJ at emini traders anon"
cctraderx: lol
tomsurf: lol, there ya go
ispec_cj: I wish I could open 2 paltalks without reregistering ..
Buffy_04364: stop at 77.50
dave_b_quick: you on 2 computers, CJ?
Buffy_04364: why cj?
ispec_cj: dave, yes..
cctraderx: are u thinking about opening up your room cj?
ispec_cj: Buffy, could hang out in both rooms :)
Buffy_04364: 78.50
Buffy_04364: oh t's and here I see
ispec_cj: cctraderx...no way! LOL
cctraderx: LOL
dave_b_quick: i'm in both rooms, cj: dave_b_quick and dave_b_quik
dave_b_quick: but on separate 'puters
ispec_cj: I hope dave_b doesn't give up...lots or work!! :)
Buffy_04364: out
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ispec_cj: oh I see dave...only  "c" missing...smart..:)
Buffy_04364: really dont' want paltalk on charting computer
Buffy_04364: trying to keep that one clean
Buffy_04364: no games no nothing extra
ispec_cj: Buffy, you are killing em both ways!  nice counter trend scalp :)
dave_b_quick: ya, i try to keep the kids off the charting 'puter
Buffy_04364: LOL I don't even let them turn it on
cheetah55: long es
dave_b_quick: my wife turned off the trading 'puter a while ago trying to get a zip disk out on her way to school (pushed the wrong button)
cctraderx: oops
ispec_cj: dave_b, are you in Canada?
dave_b_quick: on the border, in Buffalo
dave_b_quick: only the Niagara River between Buffalo and Ontario
Buffy_04364: and those sure are beautiful!
ispec_cj: must be nice there..
dave_b_quick: ya, fruit belt
Buffy_04364: how is the traffic?
dave_b_quick: in rush hour it takes me 8 minutes to downtown instead of 6
dave_b_quick: or 15 minutes to airport instead of 12
Buffy_04364: LOL I can't even say that for Augusta
ispec_cj: and you call that rush hour! LOL :)
Buffy_04364: not even close to it
Buffy_04364: inside bar on 3m
dave_b_quick: 90 minutes to Toronto airport
ispec_cj: Buffy, are you in Augusta?
Buffy_04364: south west of it
Buffy_04364: between Augusta and Lewiston off of 202
ispec_cj: over the weekend we drove uo NH and climed up mount washington......boy the to parts are really scary but beautiful!! :)
ispec_cj: drove up I meant..
Buffy_04364: yes some parts are
ispec_cj: top parts
Buffy_04364: as you said beautiful though
dave_b_quick: i'm gonna see my family in Keene NH and Nashua NH in a couple weeks
ispec_cj: Buffy, was breathtaking..
Buffy_04364: I took a volkswagon van up there back in the 70's
ispec_cj: Buffy, one of those hippy vans? :)
Indycator: buffy, the dead head
Buffy_04364: no there were five kids in it don't think so
Buffy_04364: did get a bumper sticker for the van saying it had climbed Mt Washington though
Buffy_04364: :-)
ispec_cj: Buffy, the upper parts are all washed off and the road is very narrow up there...2 cars hardly can pass and the sides of the road all eaten up ..it only takes for one tire to fall off and for the whole car to tumble down!! LOL
Buffy_04364: Hmmm David forgot a check to pick up the monitor and wants me to go down to Portland and pick up donovin on the way
dave_b_quick: are you Down East too, CJ?
Buffy_04364: It was pretty narrow back then cj
ispec_cj: dave, Boston
Buffy_04364: second time up in the mid 80's thought it was much wider
Buffy_04364: went to Bentley accounting college in boston before it moved out to waltham cj
Buffy_04364: they were building the prudential center and prof used to say I have had it with that pile driver class over
Buffy_04364: LOL
ispec_cj: Buffy, we should get together when you come down this way :)
Buffy_04364: especially on friday
Buffy_04364: would love to cj
Buffy_04364: do make it down in that area for bridge tournaments sometimes
dave_b_quick: I eloped to a Boston hotel with my high school sweethart in 1966
dave_b_quick: we sure did get in trouble
ispec_cj: dave LOL
ispec_cj: hey dave if you make a stop in Boston we can meet for coffee or something! :)
dave_b_quick: a Boston cop threatened me with a ticket for "jaywalking" that trip too, very orderly city i guess
Buffy_04364: keep dreaming
Buffy_04364: he was looking for something to do
dave_b_quick: love to, CJ, on my way to Buffy's for pie
Indycator: dave, did you have your clothes on when the cop stopped you for jaywalking?
Buffy_04364: apple or pumpkin dave?
dave_b_quick: LOL, that's jaybird walking
Buffy_04364: LOL indy
dave_b_quick: punkin my favorite
Indycator: yeah, jaybird frowned upon probably
Indycator: unless you are in Berkley
Buffy_04364: those are my too favorite to make although kids request cherry and blueberry a lot
dave_b_quick: wild cranberry good too
Buffy_04364: hey Dave I go out to syracuse a couple of times a year - how far from buffalo?
dave_b_quick: about 2  or 2-1/2 hours
Buffy_04364: quite a ways then
Buffy_04364: 7 1/2-8 1/2 out depending on how often stop
dave_b_quick: ya, but stop by when you go to Niagara Falls
Buffy_04364: LOL have to find someone to go with - someday will do
Buffy_04364: even if a girlfriend  :-)
dave_b_quick: OK
cheetah55: out of long on the ES due to boredom
Buffy_04364: LOL cheetah
Indycator: let's ask CJ how many trades for him today so far....that will tell us how slow it has been
ispec_cj: Indy, 58 RT's
Buffy_04364: wow cj - not even close with you today
Buffy_04364: how many nq?
ispec_cj: Buffy, all NQ
Buffy_04364: lol guess that isn't why
Indycator: then it is officially a dead day
ispec_cj: didn't trade ES today at all...but have been trading it on larger TF's in the past two weeks..
ispec_cj: I like trading ES on larger TF's...but not scalping it..
cheetah55: cj, how many points on NQ u net today?
Indycator: larger TF?   5 minute chart
dave_b_quick: cj you work hard for the money, or is it a video game for you?
tomsurf: cj- when you say larger TF's for ES...what TF's are you looking at?
Indycator: i can't believe CJ has time to even type text here!
ispec_cj: cheetah... approx just a couple of points average per trade..
Buffy_04364: I just clipped it for 6 cj - we were talking earlier how hard to get focused on a monday
Buffy_04364: guess you don't hav a problems
cctraderx: he's probably entering trades 
boomer_95: cj...who u use for broker?
ispec_cj: dave, it is really work for me now...I don't consider it a game..
Buffy_04364: maybe should look at charts on sunday night instead of monday morning
cheetah55: shorted es
ispec_cj: Buffy, it is very true re; mondays..
ispec_cj: boomer, IB
Buffy_04364: I hardly ever do much on a monday
boomer_95: thx
Indycator: someday we will have voice recognition and CJ can just say his order and it will go in.   no more carpal tunnel
ispec_cj: Tom, I trade ES from  3M up to 60M charts intraday and have really liked it ..
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ispec_cj: but today didn't even feel like looking at it for some reason!!! :)
cheetah55: out of es for b/e
tomsurf: cj- thx :-)
ispec_cj: Indy, been waiting for that!! :)
ispec_cj: Buffy, that is what I usually do...spend a few hors late Sunday nights reviewing charts and getting into the gear...that really helps, yesterday got home very late and went right to bed..
cheetah55: anyone been getting messages from teachtrade.com this afternoon?
tomsurf: cheetah- just that everyone has left the pits almost
tomsurf: says only a few small locals left
Buffy_04364: thanks cj I think that is what I have to start doing to do away with this lost feeling on monday
ispec_cj: Buffy, for some reason I don't even feel like trading today!! I keep daydreaming!! LOL
ispec_cj: also the weather is so great here and who wants to sit indoors?! :)
Buffy_04364: it is great here too cj
Buffy_04364: high 70's and lots of sunshine
ispec_cj: anyone in T's room? anything happening there?
dave_b_quick: gravestone doggie et al killing time
cctraderx: oh, I read killing them at first, didn't see time at the end, must be daydreaming - haha
dave_b_quick: mike bruns said goodbye for the day, couldn't take it anymore
ispec_cj: Mike has been getting impatient! hasn't been able to last anywhere for more than 5 minutes lately! :)
ispec_cj: it was fun wheneveryone was around all day at the very old site.. :)
dave_b_quick: Teresa probably wouldn't put on a trade in this market
dave_b_quick: the watering hole, or coffee shop?
ispec_cj: the "chart room"!
dave_b_quick: musta been before my time, i hear gunner reminiscing tho
ispec_cj: dave what was your handle before?
Buffy_04364: no complaints here about this room at all but then just the last six months to compare to
ispec_cj: at the old site..
dave_b_quick: i've only been around for a few months, i missed the old site
dave_b_quick: came on board in the FireTalk days
Buffy_04364: I ought to get unicorn back for handle but then getting used to buffy too
ispec_cj: oh, ok...
dave_b_quick: but i bump into the old timers here and there
ispec_cj: yup, I remember unicorn at the master classess ket asking question! LOL
Buffy_04364: LOL yep sure did
ispec_cj: questions..
Buffy_04364: already taken when she switched to yahoo
dave_b_quick: funny how people get sorted into different rooms that suit their styles
Buffy_04364: yep it is
Buffy_04364: don't mind visiting T's but lots of distractions gong onover there for me
PoloEQ: Gone for the day bye everyone
mike_bruns: I wondered wherre you guys were.
mike_bruns:  I forgot the name of the room.
cctraderx: hi mike
Buffy_04364: Hi Mike
Buffy_04364: How is it going?
mike_bruns: OK
mike_bruns: IB canceled an order in < 7 seconds today.
Buffy_04364: should just add one of us to pal list and im and ask
Buffy_04364: interesting
Buffy_04364: fast
mike_bruns: Sure beats 60 seconds and no cancel until filled.
Buffy_04364: hard market to trade
Buffy_04364: yep
cctraderx: bounce bounce bounce
ispec_cj: Hi  Mike :)
Buffy_04364: big fight going on in here on nq
mike_bruns: My last was done at 2:45 this PM.
Buffy_04364: Howard stopped in and has some pyra point charts posted
mike_bruns: very thin vol this PM
mike_bruns: No reports today so maybe better tomorrow.
Buffy_04364: hope so
Buffy_04364: monday hard day to trade anyway for me
mike_bruns: one good move in AM nad one in the PM.
mike_bruns: Anything else is bonus.
Buffy_04364: cj suggested looking at charts sunday night to get in the swing
Buffy_04364: yep
mike_bruns: I spend about an hour on charts Sunday night.
Buffy_04364: where the diagonals cross, it like where resistance/support would be with different degree setting
Buffy_04364: stay in trade as long as price is in the channel and does not close out of it
mike_bruns: But can't you do that with tendlines as well.
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Buffy_04364: there is even a live cattle posted that John used for pyra trade
mike_bruns: where are these charts?
Buffy_04364: entered on time line
mike_bruns: DaCharts...
Buffy_04364: www.dacharts_dachart_dacharts_dachart.com
mike_bruns: OK
Buffy_04364: can't hear you
mike_bruns: Looks like when they work, they work well.
Buffy_04364: can tell you are talking but too low
Buffy_04364: yep
mike_bruns: Othertimes, confusion to a beginner like me.
Buffy_04364: they are slowly making more sense here
Buffy_04364: yes
Buffy_04364: can hear you
Indycator: y
Buffy_04364: sounds good to hear your voice
Buffy_04364: that will do it LOL
Buffy_04364: that is why we are here
Buffy_04364: giggle
Buffy_04364: it is the stock mixing with the futures more than anything for me
mike_bruns: But no one there is interested in health!
Buffy_04364: of course not Mike
mike_bruns: So I am the Lone Ranger.
Buffy_04364: they just want to make money
Buffy_04364: not live to enjoy it 
Buffy_04364: giggle
mike_bruns: And no Tonto in there
Buffy_04364: that was naughty
Buffy_04364: not really true
mike_bruns: Or the reverse may really be true.
Buffy_04364: LOL
Buffy_04364: LOL
mike_bruns: No it wasn't.
tomsurf: mike- Howard from Ensign was in here with us today
ispecjh_1: Mike I am looking forward to Thursday's class
Buffy_04364: pyra?
ispecjh_1: missed the last one as i did not sign up in time
tomsurf: he was posting to dave's page in here
Buffy_04364: don't see them listed
Buffy_04364: ok maybe later they will show up then Howard is good for his word
Buffy_04364: may take time but he will do it
Buffy_04364: neither did I jh forgot what day it was
ispecjh_1: yea, I was really bummed out
Buffy_04364: 1682.59 R nq
ispecjh_1: so really looking forward this week
ispecjh_1: Buffy, what is 3lb??
Buffy_04364: stay the size you set off of high/low
Buffy_04364: all based on square root of nine
cctraderx: line break jh
Buffy_04364: 3 line break jh
Buffy_04364: the ensign 4 chart has gann cycles on there too
Buffy_04364: also part of ensign now
Buffy_04364: one point and it does the rest
Buffy_04364: diagonals should match a trendline you would normally draw is what don hall said
dave_b_quick: you set the starting point on a hi or low and can adjust the degrees
dave_b_quick: the rest is calculated mathematically
dave_b_quick: ya
Buffy_04364: all math calc on square root of nine
Buffy_04364: poke bar and just watching
Buffy_04364: hmmm just noticed after four
Buffy_04364: silly me
onlyFor_u: hi all
Buffy_04364: better be just watching
Buffy_04364: :-)
onlyFor_u: hello
dave_b_quick: hi only
cctraderx: hi
onlyFor_u: hi dave
onlyFor_u: hi
onlyFor_u: how r y?
ispecjh_1: 3 line break of waht? pyra?
ispecjh_1: ahh
dave_b_quick: 3 line break is a variation of Point & Figure in ensign (Buffy knows what to do with it)
ispecjh_1: so in steve nison's book
dave_b_quick: ya
ispecjh_1: i have 2 i should read lol
Buffy_04364: this is what he said - pyrapont principle is to stay in the channel, long or short, until you have a close above a downward red channel top or a close below an upward green channel bottom
ispecjh_1: but i am reading and dissecting yours mike
mike_bruns: easier to teach it than  to trade it on some days.
ispecjh_1: it takes time to sink in
mike_bruns: Being human as a trader can be a real bummer at times.
Buffy_04364: currently on nq chart the channel is downward and top channel line, it that is used as a stop is now descended to around 1687.80
dave_b_quick: working on that, mike
mike_bruns: Don't we all.
ispecjh_1: yea , i have one workspace called the monkey trader
mike_bruns: Never ending process.
Buffy_04364: I went back and got that mike and it goes with chart he posted
ispecjh_1: he is not human and he does good
ispec_cj: that imo the single biggest problem in trading..
Buffy_04364: agree cj
Buffy_04364: and mike
Buffy_04364: human with emotions = trouble trading
tomsurf: Buffy- so true
ispec_cj: trading is deisgned by humans against humans! LOL
tomsurf: cj- lol
Buffy_04364: LOL
dave_b_quick: successful trading is counter-intuitive somebody said
Buffy_04364: nice
Buffy_04364: well not going to Portland for monitor - will wait another day
dave_b_quick: we have seen the enemy, and it is us...
Buffy_04364: I like that Dave
tomsurf: dave- yepper ;-)
dave_b_quick: Pogo said that
ispec_cj: as everyone knows change buy and sell buttons and traders will all make money!! LOL
Buffy_04364: please repeat Mike
Buffy_04364: cats knocked books off and missed it
Buffy_04364: I agree with that
Buffy_04364: lots of emotions to fight when I went to real account
Buffy_04364: big big difference
ispec_cj: I am going to make a trading software that will sell when people think the're buying and it buys when they think they are selling and will be the most money making software out there....GUARANTEED!! LOL
Buffy_04364: much easier now
Buffy_04364: LOL cj
Buffy_04364: LOL
Buffy_04364: and you won't tell them either I bet
Buffy_04364: LOL
Buffy_04364: bye Mike
dave_b_quick: thanks, mike
ispecjh_1: Buffy do you know where in book he talks about 3 pt  break
dave_b_quick: i think you're onto something, cj
Buffy_04364: Nisson?  toward the end
ispecjh_1: or does Steve call it that too in book
ispec_cj: Buffy, they can trade for one month without seeing the results LOL
ispecjh_1: the second book
Buffy_04364: that would work cj
tomsurf: yes he does cjh
Buffy_04364: it is that in his book
Buffy_04364: nisson's
ispecjh_1: ok
ispecjh_1: will look for
ispecjh_1: thanks
tomsurf: yes in @nd book
tomsurf: 2nd
Buffy_04364: page 167
Buffy_04364: Beyond Candlesticks
ispecjh_1: thanks
Buffy_04364: cjh - did you get the email with the weblinks for it from me
ispecjh_1: no
ispecjh_1:  when did you send it
Buffy_04364: sorry had to ask for it
ispecjh_1: i have both his books
Buffy_04364: I sent to all who asked
ispecjh_1: ahhh i must not have seen you mention it 
Buffy_04364: was surprised at how many wanted it in T's room
Buffy_04364: I have two one for 3LB and one for PnF
Buffy_04364: send me an email asking for it  unicorn@ctel.net
ispecjh_1: ok Buffy
ispecjh_1: will do now
Buffy_04364: will send you both and a copy of Howard's help file on it
Buffy_04364: a setting of 2 for intraday instead of 3 works nice as he mentions in the help file
ispecjh_1: I don't have Ensign
Buffy_04364: ok well the links will help 
Buffy_04364: I used to draw them by hand on my stocks
Buffy_04364: now don't have to
Buffy_04364: there is other free software out there I think that does it off of qfeed
ispecjh_1: one can just see it with eye too though right?
ispecjh_1: i.e the 3lb
Buffy_04364: yes with practise
Buffy_04364: practice
Buffy_04364: at least I had to before
ispecjh_1: is qfeed what qcharts uses?
Buffy_04364: yes
dave_b_quick: good night all, and thanks for your help today
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ispecjh_1: night Dave
Buffy_04364: not sure what help we were but night Dave and thank you for yours
tomsurf: bye dave :-)
ispecjh_1: Buffy what free software?
Buffy_04364: waving goodby
ispec_cj: have a good evening everyone  :)
cctraderx: saw that
Buffy_04364: hmmm dont' remember but you should come across it doing the links
tomsurf: bye all
Buffy_04364: night tom
dave_b_quick: It's a big help for me to see everybody's trading styles at work.
ispecjh_1: ok, first I'll read the email
ispecjh_1: i just sent you mine
Buffy_04364: I like to too dave
Buffy_04364: ok will get it out to you